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Kathy,

These baths look very interesting! As far as detox, that clay one sounds

like something to further investigate. In Calistoga, CA area, near Napa,

they have wonderful mud baths, which are actually volcanic ash I believe.

I took one of these a year or so ago. I think it really pulls the junk

out of you. I hadn't felt that good in a long time! It was truly

heavenly!

Does anyone else know anything about this stuff?

Is bentonite clay easy to purchase?

Thanks,

Chris

On Sun, 30 Jul 2000 13:30:47 -0700 " Jim Blanco " <kblanco@...>

writes:

> Detox Baths:

> (NOTE: Baths should be taken on a daily basis during detox and

> rotated,

> switching to a different type of bath each day. After detoxing, use

> whichever bath seems appropriate to meet your current needs.)

>

> EPSOM SALTS AND GINGER:

>

> This bath opens pores and eliminates toxins and also helps to

> eliminate

> pain. Stir one cup of epsom salts and 2 tablespoons of ginger in a

> cup of

> water first, then add to the bath. Do not remain in the tub for more

> than 30

> minutes.

> SALT AND SODA:

>

> This bath counteracts the effects of radiation, whether from X-rays,

> cancer

> treatment radiation, fallout from the atmosphere, or television

> radiation. 1

> cup of baking soda and 1 to 2 cups of ordinary coarse salt (or epsom

> salts

> or sea salt) to a tub of water. You can soak for 20 minutes.

> EPSOM SALTS, SEA SALT, AND SESAME OIL:

>

> This bath helps with dry skin and stress. Take 1 cup of Epsom salt,

> 1 cup of

> sea salt (from the health food store), and 1 cup of sesame oil and

> put into

> a warm to hot tub of water and soak for 20 minutes. Pat yourself

> dry.

> VINEGAR BATH:

>

> This is used when the body is too acidic. This is a quick way of

> restoring

> the acid-alkaline balance. 1 cup to 2 quarts of 100% apple cider

> vinegar to

> a bathtub of warm water. Soak 40 to 45 minutes. This is excellent

> for excess

> uric acid in the body and especially for the joints, arthritis,

> bursitis,

> tendonitis, and gout.

> BENTONITE BATH:

>

> A fast detoxification method. Soak 2 to 4 pounds of bentonite clay

> in a flat

> container overnight to dissolve it. Then add this to a tub of water.

> With 2

> pounds of bentonite you would soak one hour; with 4 pounds you would

> soak

> only about 30 minutes. The more bentonite used, the faster the

> detoxification. (NOTE: While bentonite is a great adsorber, it is

> widely

> used to seal well-casings and ponds. It would very likely seal many

> septic

> systems too, costing thousands to repair. Use sparingly or with

> caution!)

>

>

>

>

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I think they are in most health food stores (extensive ones). Online

available too I think

Kathy

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>Kathy,

>These baths look very interesting! As far as detox, that clay one sounds

>like something to further investigate. In Calistoga, CA area, near Napa,

>they have wonderful mud baths, which are actually volcanic ash I believe.

> I took one of these a year or so ago. I think it really pulls the junk

>out of you. I hadn't felt that good in a long time! It was truly

>heavenly!

>

>Does anyone else know anything about this stuff?

>Is bentonite clay easy to purchase?

>

>Thanks,

> Chris

>

>

>On Sun, 30 Jul 2000 13:30:47 -0700 " Jim Blanco " <kblanco@...>

>writes:

>> Detox Baths:

>> (NOTE: Baths should be taken on a daily basis during detox and

>> rotated,

>> switching to a different type of bath each day. After detoxing, use

>> whichever bath seems appropriate to meet your current needs.)

>>

>> EPSOM SALTS AND GINGER:

>>

>> This bath opens pores and eliminates toxins and also helps to

>> eliminate

>> pain. Stir one cup of epsom salts and 2 tablespoons of ginger in a

>> cup of

>> water first, then add to the bath. Do not remain in the tub for more

>> than 30

>> minutes.

>> SALT AND SODA:

>>

>> This bath counteracts the effects of radiation, whether from X-rays,

>> cancer

>> treatment radiation, fallout from the atmosphere, or television

>> radiation. 1

>> cup of baking soda and 1 to 2 cups of ordinary coarse salt (or epsom

>> salts

>> or sea salt) to a tub of water. You can soak for 20 minutes.

>> EPSOM SALTS, SEA SALT, AND SESAME OIL:

>>

>> This bath helps with dry skin and stress. Take 1 cup of Epsom salt,

>> 1 cup of

>> sea salt (from the health food store), and 1 cup of sesame oil and

>> put into

>> a warm to hot tub of water and soak for 20 minutes. Pat yourself

>> dry.

>> VINEGAR BATH:

>>

>> This is used when the body is too acidic. This is a quick way of

>> restoring

>> the acid-alkaline balance. 1 cup to 2 quarts of 100% apple cider

>> vinegar to

>> a bathtub of warm water. Soak 40 to 45 minutes. This is excellent

>> for excess

>> uric acid in the body and especially for the joints, arthritis,

>> bursitis,

>> tendonitis, and gout.

>> BENTONITE BATH:

>>

>> A fast detoxification method. Soak 2 to 4 pounds of bentonite clay

>> in a flat

>> container overnight to dissolve it. Then add this to a tub of water.

>> With 2

>> pounds of bentonite you would soak one hour; with 4 pounds you would

>> soak

>> only about 30 minutes. The more bentonite used, the faster the

>> detoxification. (NOTE: While bentonite is a great adsorber, it is

>> widely

>> used to seal well-casings and ponds. It would very likely seal many

>> septic

>> systems too, costing thousands to repair. Use sparingly or with

>> caution!)

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

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Debbie,

Do you know if the dr your going to has experience?

I have heard of the head looking worse before it looked better. If

you are using the Clarren Helmet that Orthomerica makes, I believe

that it is passive and it will take longer to get correction. I just

looked on their web age and it is passive.

Who reccommended you use that helmet? I find that odd since he's a

little bit older. Passive helmets are great for young infants b/c

they are growing so fast. From what I understand head growth really

slows down once a baby reaches 6 mths. So since he is already 8 mths

it's going to take a while for him to graduate. I'm not trying to

panic you, passive helmets DO work they just take longer.

Do you have any pics of his head before treatment and now that you

could post?

--- In Plagiocephaly , " kernlatta " <kernlatta@y...>

wrote:

> Hi,

>

> My son has been in his helmet for about five weeks, I think it's

the

> Mclaren or something like that, and I'm not positive it's doing

what

> it should be. When we began helmet treatment, his head was flat on

> the right hand side and that ear was pushed quite a bit further

away

> from his face than the other side. Now his head is rounding out,

but

> it's rounding out towards the left. So, if you look from the top

or

> the back it looks like it's almost round. If you look from the

top,

> and find his nose, then you can tell that his head is rounding out

> towards his left. From the front, you can see that left hand side

of

> the head much easier than the right. His left eye has gotten

smaller

> since we began treatment.

>

> We have been seeing a doctor at the Seattle Children's Hospital

> Craniofacial center. We went back two weeks ago, and he did a bit

of

> trimming but he said the helmet is doing what it's supposed to be

> doing. I then made another appointment a few days ago so I could

ask

> some more questions. This time we saw the original nurse that made

> the diagnosis, and she said his head looks better. I asked her

about

> the concerns I wrote about above, and she said that sometimes

things

> look worse before they look better.

>

> I hope we're not making his head worse! I still have doubts. What

do

> you think? I'm going to put a few new pictures in 's folder.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Debbie

> North Bend WA

> 8 months old

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Hello to all!

Just a thought. Has this group ever sent out a mass email to everyone they know, stating the harmful effects of saline implants. Each person you send it to, have them send it to everyone they know. And so on. There are a lot of people in this group and I think there would be a potential of reaching thousands of people. Word of mouth is the best source of advertising. I found a great testimonial from Dr. Feng stating the harm saline implants have caused thousands of girls. Even if it helped only one person, it would be worth it. Like I said, this is just a thought. Let me know what you think.

Love to all!

Alice halvey70@... wrote:

kaseyI have also felt a stong need lately to speak out and be heard - I am going to tell my work today that I need to take medical disability and I would really liek to get very involved also. I just have a strong feeling about it - I think it is the lord telling me what I need to do when I get out of work. Let me know if I can help you in any way - The more people we target the better. If you have any public speakings down in Florida you are more than welcome to stay with us. I am also thinking of starting my book - haven't been able to yet but I want to get started on it. love shari

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Alice,

Where is this testimonial from Dr. Feng that states

the harm caused to thousands from saline implants? I

would love to post the link...

Patty

--- Alice Hauser <alicehauser1048@...> wrote:

> Hello to all!

>

> Just a thought. Has this group ever sent out a mass

> email to everyone they know, stating the harmful

> effects of saline implants. Each person you send it

> to, have them send it to everyone they know. And so

> on. There are a lot of people in this group and I

> think there would be a potential of reaching

> thousands of people. Word of mouth is the best

> source of advertising. I found a great testimonial

> from Dr. Feng stating the harm saline implants have

> caused thousands of girls. Even if it helped only

> one person, it would be worth it. Like I said,

> this is just a thought. Let me know what you think.

>

> Love to all!

> Alice

>

> halvey70@... wrote:

> kasey

>

> I have also felt a stong need lately to speak out

> and be heard - I am going to tell my work today that

> I need to take medical disability and I would really

> liek to get very involved also. I just have a

> strong feeling about it - I think it is the lord

> telling me what I need to do when I get out of work.

> Let me know if I can help you in any way - The more

> people we target the better. If you have any public

> speakings down in Florida you are more than welcome

> to stay with us. I am also thinking of starting my

> book - haven't been able to yet but I want to get

> started on it.

>

> love shari

>

>

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Felice, What kind of things can he do for you,

besides testing? Will the job be to tell you

what is wrong but not how to fix it or will

company do both. In some states it is against

same company that does testing, to do remediation

since they consider that a conflict of interest.

--- felice <anupath14@...> wrote:

> Spoke to a Dr. of toxicology today who owns an

> air quality co.

> It would cost about $2500 to come and examine

> house and do some testing to see what's up with

> my house once and for all. One of our doctors

> recommended him.

> This co. would be less but they have to travel

> about 5 hours to get to me. They would not

> necessarily do any remediation if needed. Only

> if I want them to.

> I could move but, where?? And after hearing

> how difficult it is to find a place and how

> many moves one may have to make, i'm thinking

> it may be better for me emotionally (and maybe

> financially??) to work with what I have.

> What's your take.

> My basement is still musty and so is my

> stairway up to my shower.

> In other words, my house in not too healthy.

> felice

> ps. I found out yesterday I have the " dreaded

> gene " from BOTH PARENTS!!!!! Not good at all.

> I did not sleep well with this news.

>

>

>

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I didn't have the type of money to pay professionals so I did it

myself. Tore out the kitchen floor, fixed leaks in the roof, tore out

the wall in the hallway, tore out the bathroom floor and all of it's

accouterment's.

The house won.

I sold it at a distress value as is to an investor that guts houses

and rents them out.

Apparently the people that live there now are perfectly fine.

I know he didn't get all the mold out. I was in it after he

reassembled it and it knocked me on my rear. I did disclose the

problem though.

A simple test for $2400 is arguably not going to tell you anything you

don't already know. You the reactor are the best test and this test is

free. Some times I think I should have hired an expert they may have

been able to convince me of things I read here early on and ignored to

my detriment. But as far as telling me my house had mold in it. I

already knew this.

Not trying to dissuade you, but it's a tricky business getting ALL the

mold out of a home. If I had it to do over again would I do it

different? Don't know. I am still thinking about doing the same thing

to my trailer.

On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 16:07:26 -0600 (CST), you wrote:

>Spoke to a Dr. of toxicology today who owns an air quality co.

>It would cost about $2500 to come and examine house and do some testing to see

what's up with my house once and for all. One of our doctors recommended him.

>This co. would be less but they have to travel about 5 hours to get to me.

They would not necessarily do any remediation if needed. Only if I want them to.

>I could move but, where?? And after hearing how difficult it is to find a

place and how many moves one may have to make, i'm thinking it may be better for

me emotionally (and maybe financially??) to work with what I have.

>What's your take.

>My basement is still musty and so is my stairway up to my shower.

>In other words, my house in not too healthy. felice

>ps. I found out yesterday I have the " dreaded gene " from BOTH PARENTS!!!!!

Not good at all. I did not sleep well with this news.

>

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Amen !!! the 2 houses I left as untenable have never bothered

anyone else- people re- entering their remediated homes can many

times just kill them as bad as before- the toxin is un-remediable-

this is something mold remediatores never discuss- why would you

talk about something you can do nothing about? Better to ignore the

issue.

>

> I didn't have the type of money to pay professionals so I did it

> myself. Tore out the kitchen floor, fixed leaks in the roof, tore

out

> the wall in the hallway, tore out the bathroom floor and all of

it's

> accouterment's.

>

> The house won.

>

> I sold it at a distress value as is to an investor that guts

houses

> and rents them out.

>

> Apparently the people that live there now are perfectly fine.

>

> I know he didn't get all the mold out. I was in it after he

> reassembled it and it knocked me on my rear. I did disclose the

> problem though.

>

> A simple test for $2400 is arguably not going to tell you anything

you

> don't already know. You the reactor are the best test and this

test is

> free. Some times I think I should have hired an expert they may

have

> been able to convince me of things I read here early on and

ignored to

> my detriment. But as far as telling me my house had mold in it. I

> already knew this.

>

> Not trying to dissuade you, but it's a tricky business getting ALL

the

> mold out of a home. If I had it to do over again would I do it

> different? Don't know. I am still thinking about doing the same

thing

> to my trailer.

>

>

>

>

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Hi Everyone,

I just got some more results of my RA tests and was wondering what to

make of it.

My ANA came back negative and my ESR (Sedimentation Rate) is 24. 30

is the norm.

But, my C-reative Protein (1st test) was 0.9 and (2nd test) 0.7 The

norm is 0.5 or less

Also my RF (Rheumatoid Factor) 1st test was 59 and 2nd test was 48.

The norm is 43 or less

I'm anemic, have asthma, and I'm usually really fatigued. My neck

and spine have flare ups occasionally

which causes pain. I use Motrin for swelling and a heating pad to

relax the muscles around my spine.

Anyone think I have RA?

Are those elevated numbers just trivial or something more?

Please let me know what you think. Maybe some of you have experience

with this?

Huggers,

Peg

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hi elizabeth, i say get the hell out of there. i know sometimes i find myself

thinking to, do the drs. we see really care about us or is it the money? i

believe if ther's a job someone truly loves then go for it, even if it's not

alot of money but at least u r HAPPY,yeah!!! i see it this way the drs.. either

want to help us or help themselves or maybe both, but who knows the question to

this one?? good luck & god bless,melyndagamez 6/18/08 9:50p.m..central

[ ] What Do You Think?

So, I am currently seeing 2 Rheums., obviously I have to make a choice, but then

I thought

what if the 2nd one isn't good either? So, I asked the hand specialist that I

saw to send his

report to both doctors. I called up the first doctor and told his admin. that

the hand

specialist advised me to seek a second opinion (true) and I was doing that and I

would be

back in touch with him.

5 minutes later I get a call back from HIM, claiming that he couldn't read his

admins.

writing, what was going on? I explained and he said, " Well, who are you seeing? "

I told him

and he said he knew her and wanted a report from her.

Then he said, " I don't want to lose you as a patient! " and I said, " Well I am

looking for

someone who will treat me aggressively. " " Well these aggressive drugs have side

effects! "

" Yes, but I was taking Humira and that had a lot of side effects as well. " (One

of which may

be lymphoma) I told him that I would get back to him after I saw the other

Rheum. (which

would be my second visit but he doesn't know that)

What did he mean when he said he didn't want to lose me as a patient? Lose my

money?

Does he really care about me as a patient? Does he want me to get better instead

of worse

like I get day by day? Does he want to dig until he figures out what is going on

with me?

This is what I want in a doctor.

DH thinks I now have some leverage with him, if he doesn't want to lose me he is

now

more likely to do what I want.

Thoughts, please?

Thanks,

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Thanks for your responses all, I am trying to take them one at a time, if some

have

questions.

Shandi,

I have told him that I am willing to risk side effects. I made the decision to

stay on Humira

while pregnant and he made me sign something that he did not agree with that and

had

not responsibility for any birth defects. So, yes, we have had similar

conversations before.

The problem is that he did not diagnose me with RA and the person who did passed

away.

I never had a serious flare while under his care until this past October, when

this flare

slowly began. He has never seen me at my worst.

>

> From: <catdelouise@...>

> Subject: [ ] What Do You Think?

>

> Date: Wednesday, June 18, 2008, 9:53 PM

>

>

>

>

>

>

> So, I am currently seeing 2 Rheums., obviously I have to make a choice, but

then I

thought

> what if the 2nd one isn't good either? So, I asked the hand specialist that I

saw to send

his

> report to both doctors. I called up the first doctor and told his admin. that

the hand

> specialist advised me to seek a second opinion (true) and I was doing that and

I would

be

> back in touch with him.

>

> 5 minutes later I get a call back from HIM, claiming that he couldn't read his

admins.

> writing, what was going on? I explained and he said, " Well, who are you

seeing? " I told

him

> and he said he knew her and wanted a report from her.

>

> Then he said, " I don't want to lose you as a patient! " and I said, " Well I am

looking for

> someone who will treat me aggressively. " " Well these aggressive drugs have

side

effects! "

> " Yes, but I was taking Humira and that had a lot of side effects as well. "

(One of which

may

> be lymphoma) I told him that I would get back to him after I saw the other

Rheum.

(which

> would be my second visit but he doesn't know that)

>

> What did he mean when he said he didn't want to lose me as a patient? Lose my

money?

> Does he really care about me as a patient? Does he want me to get better

instead of

worse

> like I get day by day? Does he want to dig until he figures out what is going

on with me?

> This is what I want in a doctor.

>

> DH thinks I now have some leverage with him, if he doesn't want to lose me he

is now

> more likely to do what I want.

>

> Thoughts, please?

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

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