Guest guest Posted May 22, 2008 Report Share Posted May 22, 2008 Nice work! Please tell us you told them why you’re no longer donating. Side Note: “Immunization” is not a real word, at least not how it has come to be defined. The proper word is vaccination. You have immunity without having an inoculation. We were given the word immunization from the evils-that-be when they began to sell this false-meme to society decades ago. Welch 847.533.3481 www.johnwelchfitness.com www.nutriharmony.com/johnwelchfitness From: no-forced-vaccination [mailto:no-forced-vaccination ] On Behalf Of Holly Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 2:56 PM No Forced Vaccination Subject: World Vision Group, I canceled my monthly support of World Vision today. World Vision is a Christian based group that provides many services and goods to children all over the world. I've given to them for years, and it dawned on me the other day to call and ask if my money is being used to immunize children. I called today and found out that part of their service to children is providing immunizations. They do so many OTHER wonderful things, but I can no longer support a group who promotes immunizing children. I'm sure they, just as so many others, do not realize the harm they're doing....but I do understand the harmful effects and can not support them any longer. Hopefully, I'll find another beneficial organization to give my money to. Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2008 Report Share Posted May 22, 2008 Nice work! Please tell us you told them why you’re no longer donating. Side Note: “Immunization” is not a real word, at least not how it has come to be defined. The proper word is vaccination. You have immunity without having an inoculation. We were given the word immunization from the evils-that-be when they began to sell this false-meme to society decades ago. Welch 847.533.3481 www.johnwelchfitness.com www.nutriharmony.com/johnwelchfitness From: no-forced-vaccination [mailto:no-forced-vaccination ] On Behalf Of Holly Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 2:56 PM No Forced Vaccination Subject: World Vision Group, I canceled my monthly support of World Vision today. World Vision is a Christian based group that provides many services and goods to children all over the world. I've given to them for years, and it dawned on me the other day to call and ask if my money is being used to immunize children. I called today and found out that part of their service to children is providing immunizations. They do so many OTHER wonderful things, but I can no longer support a group who promotes immunizing children. I'm sure they, just as so many others, do not realize the harm they're doing....but I do understand the harmful effects and can not support them any longer. Hopefully, I'll find another beneficial organization to give my money to. Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2008 Report Share Posted May 22, 2008 Bravo! Holly. I hope you were able to give that organization the Reason Why you were no longer going to donate to them. If not, see if there is some place you an send a letter to them. They need to know what they are doing, in the Killing Fields. They might even write back to try to explain what they are doing, or what vaccines they are envolved in. Then you can enlighten them to their err of thinking. Glad Day ~ Karla in IL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2008 Report Share Posted May 22, 2008 Bravo! Holly. I hope you were able to give that organization the Reason Why you were no longer going to donate to them. If not, see if there is some place you an send a letter to them. They need to know what they are doing, in the Killing Fields. They might even write back to try to explain what they are doing, or what vaccines they are envolved in. Then you can enlighten them to their err of thinking. Glad Day ~ Karla in IL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2008 Report Share Posted May 22, 2008 I concur with your "Side Note" regarding the non-word, "Immunization;" however, we must be aware that the public has been brainwashed into believing it is a word, and if we want to make sure others know what we are talking about, we need to use the "publicly accepted vocabulary" they are accustomed to hearing. ~~Ruth/REU World Vision Group, I canceled my monthly support of World Vision today. World Vision is a Christian based group that provides many services and goods to children all over the world. I've given to them for years, and it dawned on me the other day to call and ask if my money is being used to immunize children. I called today and found out that part of their service to children is providing immunizations. They do so many OTHER wonderful things, but I can no longer support a group who promotes immunizing children. I'm sure they, just as so many others, do not realize the harm they're doing....but I do understand the harmful effects and can not support them any longer. Hopefully, I'll find another beneficial organization to give my money to. Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2008 Report Share Posted May 22, 2008 I concur with your "Side Note" regarding the non-word, "Immunization;" however, we must be aware that the public has been brainwashed into believing it is a word, and if we want to make sure others know what we are talking about, we need to use the "publicly accepted vocabulary" they are accustomed to hearing. ~~Ruth/REU World Vision Group, I canceled my monthly support of World Vision today. World Vision is a Christian based group that provides many services and goods to children all over the world. I've given to them for years, and it dawned on me the other day to call and ask if my money is being used to immunize children. I called today and found out that part of their service to children is providing immunizations. They do so many OTHER wonderful things, but I can no longer support a group who promotes immunizing children. I'm sure they, just as so many others, do not realize the harm they're doing....but I do understand the harmful effects and can not support them any longer. Hopefully, I'll find another beneficial organization to give my money to. Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2008 Report Share Posted May 22, 2008 Yes, I did tell them why I was no longer donating. They kindly canceled my sponsorship. Welch <john@...> wrote: Nice work! Please tell us you told them why you’re no longer donating. Side Note: “Immunization” is not a real word, at least not how it has come to be defined. The proper word is vaccination. You have immunity without having an inoculation. We were given the word immunization from the evils-that-be when they began to sell this false-meme to society decades ago. Welch 847.533.3481 www.johnwelchfitness.com www.nutriharmony.com/johnwelchfitness From: no-forced-vaccination [mailto:no-forced-vaccination ] On Behalf Of Holly Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 2:56 PMNo Forced VaccinationSubject: World Vision Group, I canceled my monthly support of World Vision today. World Vision is a Christian based group that provides many services and goods to children all over the world. I've given to them for years, and it dawned on me the other day to call and ask if my money is being used to immunize children. I called today and found out that part of their service to children is providing immunizations. They do so many OTHER wonderful things, but I can no longer support a group who promotes immunizing children. I'm sure they, just as so many others, do not realize the harm they're doing....but I do understand the harmful effects and can not support them any longer. Hopefully, I'll find another beneficial organization to give my money to. Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2008 Report Share Posted May 22, 2008 Yes, I did tell them why I was no longer donating. They kindly canceled my sponsorship. Welch <john@...> wrote: Nice work! Please tell us you told them why you’re no longer donating. Side Note: “Immunization” is not a real word, at least not how it has come to be defined. The proper word is vaccination. You have immunity without having an inoculation. We were given the word immunization from the evils-that-be when they began to sell this false-meme to society decades ago. Welch 847.533.3481 www.johnwelchfitness.com www.nutriharmony.com/johnwelchfitness From: no-forced-vaccination [mailto:no-forced-vaccination ] On Behalf Of Holly Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 2:56 PMNo Forced VaccinationSubject: World Vision Group, I canceled my monthly support of World Vision today. World Vision is a Christian based group that provides many services and goods to children all over the world. I've given to them for years, and it dawned on me the other day to call and ask if my money is being used to immunize children. I called today and found out that part of their service to children is providing immunizations. They do so many OTHER wonderful things, but I can no longer support a group who promotes immunizing children. I'm sure they, just as so many others, do not realize the harm they're doing....but I do understand the harmful effects and can not support them any longer. Hopefully, I'll find another beneficial organization to give my money to. Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2008 Report Share Posted May 22, 2008 Hi Holly, wow it must have come as a shock to you to discover World Vision is providing vaccines, in light of all the other good things you say they do. But as I have heard people say "this is where the road splits" and we have to choose.....feel good about staying true to what means most to you. I was in a similar situation with organizations that support research for a cause and cure for autism......I found out through Physician commitee for responsible medicine (pcrm.org ) that some of the more well known autism organiization were using donations to fund cruel and inhumane animal experiments..I take cruely to animals very seriously...I will not donate to their causes even though I have a son on the autism spectrum. It's a matter of principle and moral beliefs for me. take care JackieHolly <holly12079@...> wrote: Group, I canceled my monthly support of World Vision today. World Vision is a Christian based group that provides many services and goods to children all over the world. I've given to them for years, and it dawned on me the other day to call and ask if my money is being used to immunize children. I called today and found out that part of their service to children is providing immunizations. They do so many OTHER wonderful things, but I can no longer support a group who promotes immunizing children. I'm sure they, just as so many others, do not realize the harm they're doing....but I do understand the harmful effects and can not support them any longer. Hopefully, I'll find another beneficial organization to give my money to. Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2008 Report Share Posted May 22, 2008 Hi Holly, wow it must have come as a shock to you to discover World Vision is providing vaccines, in light of all the other good things you say they do. But as I have heard people say "this is where the road splits" and we have to choose.....feel good about staying true to what means most to you. I was in a similar situation with organizations that support research for a cause and cure for autism......I found out through Physician commitee for responsible medicine (pcrm.org ) that some of the more well known autism organiization were using donations to fund cruel and inhumane animal experiments..I take cruely to animals very seriously...I will not donate to their causes even though I have a son on the autism spectrum. It's a matter of principle and moral beliefs for me. take care JackieHolly <holly12079@...> wrote: Group, I canceled my monthly support of World Vision today. World Vision is a Christian based group that provides many services and goods to children all over the world. I've given to them for years, and it dawned on me the other day to call and ask if my money is being used to immunize children. I called today and found out that part of their service to children is providing immunizations. They do so many OTHER wonderful things, but I can no longer support a group who promotes immunizing children. I'm sure they, just as so many others, do not realize the harm they're doing....but I do understand the harmful effects and can not support them any longer. Hopefully, I'll find another beneficial organization to give my money to. Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2008 Report Share Posted May 22, 2008 Hi Holly, wow it must have come as a shock to you to discover World Vision is providing vaccines, in light of all the other good things you say they do. But as I have heard people say "this is where the road splits" and we have to choose.....feel good about staying true to what means most to you. I was in a similar situation with organizations that support research for a cause and cure for autism......I found out through Physician commitee for responsible medicine (pcrm.org ) that some of the more well known autism organiization were using donations to fund cruel and inhumane animal experiments..I take cruely to animals very seriously...I will not donate to their causes even though I have a son on the autism spectrum. It's a matter of principle and moral beliefs for me. take care JackieHolly <holly12079@...> wrote: Group, I canceled my monthly support of World Vision today. World Vision is a Christian based group that provides many services and goods to children all over the world. I've given to them for years, and it dawned on me the other day to call and ask if my money is being used to immunize children. I called today and found out that part of their service to children is providing immunizations. They do so many OTHER wonderful things, but I can no longer support a group who promotes immunizing children. I'm sure they, just as so many others, do not realize the harm they're doing....but I do understand the harmful effects and can not support them any longer. Hopefully, I'll find another beneficial organization to give my money to. Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2008 Report Share Posted May 22, 2008 Hi Holly, wow it must have come as a shock to you to discover World Vision is providing vaccines, in light of all the other good things you say they do. But as I have heard people say "this is where the road splits" and we have to choose.....feel good about staying true to what means most to you. I was in a similar situation with organizations that support research for a cause and cure for autism......I found out through Physician commitee for responsible medicine (pcrm.org ) that some of the more well known autism organiization were using donations to fund cruel and inhumane animal experiments..I take cruely to animals very seriously...I will not donate to their causes even though I have a son on the autism spectrum. It's a matter of principle and moral beliefs for me. take care JackieHolly <holly12079@...> wrote: Group, I canceled my monthly support of World Vision today. World Vision is a Christian based group that provides many services and goods to children all over the world. I've given to them for years, and it dawned on me the other day to call and ask if my money is being used to immunize children. I called today and found out that part of their service to children is providing immunizations. They do so many OTHER wonderful things, but I can no longer support a group who promotes immunizing children. I'm sure they, just as so many others, do not realize the harm they're doing....but I do understand the harmful effects and can not support them any longer. Hopefully, I'll find another beneficial organization to give my money to. Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 Jackie, I feel the same way, I know that it def will help to know that monkey given vaccines developed austism or austism symptoms but what the heck have those animals done to deserve that. I just hope that all types of cruelty stop. I hope no more monkeys are given vaccines to prove what THEY already know. We are really trying to prove it to the ignorant or innocent, merck and such know this already. > Group, > > I canceled my monthly support of World Vision today. World Vision is a Christian based group that provides many services and goods to children all over the world. I've given to them for years, and it dawned on me the other day to call and ask if my money is being used to immunize children. I called today and found out that part of their service to children is providing immunizations. They do so many OTHER wonderful things, but I can no longer support a group who promotes immunizing children. I'm sure they, just as so many others, do not realize the harm they're doing....but I do understand the harmful effects and can not support them any longer. Hopefully, I'll find another beneficial organization to give my money to. > > Holly > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 Ruth, They know what we are talking about when we say vaccination; therefore, there is no need for us to ever say “immunization” as it is giving in to their propaganda. Educate someone (in kind) as to the false-meme creation of the word “immunization” if they use “immunization” in a one on one discussion. Exploiting the deceit is an opportunity to show how the lies have been engrained since the beginning. “Publicly accepted vocabulary” should only be used by the “publicly naïve”. (smiles) From: no-forced-vaccination [mailto:no-forced-vaccination ] On Behalf Of putney1963@... Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 4:23 PM To: no-forced-vaccination Subject: RE: World Vision I concur with your " Side Note " regarding the non-word, " Immunization; " however, we must be aware that the public has been brainwashed into believing it is a word, and if we want to make sure others know what we are talking about, we need to use the " publicly accepted vocabulary " they are accustomed to hearing. ~~Ruth/REU World Vision Group, I canceled my monthly support of World Vision today. World Vision is a Christian based group that provides many services and goods to children all over the world. I've given to them for years, and it dawned on me the other day to call and ask if my money is being used to immunize children. I called today and found out that part of their service to children is providing immunizations. They do so many OTHER wonderful things, but I can no longer support a group who promotes immunizing children. I'm sure they, just as so many others, do not realize the harm they're doing....but I do understand the harmful effects and can not support them any longer. Hopefully, I'll find another beneficial organization to give my money to. Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 Ruth, They know what we are talking about when we say vaccination; therefore, there is no need for us to ever say “immunization” as it is giving in to their propaganda. Educate someone (in kind) as to the false-meme creation of the word “immunization” if they use “immunization” in a one on one discussion. Exploiting the deceit is an opportunity to show how the lies have been engrained since the beginning. “Publicly accepted vocabulary” should only be used by the “publicly naïve”. (smiles) From: no-forced-vaccination [mailto:no-forced-vaccination ] On Behalf Of putney1963@... Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 4:23 PM To: no-forced-vaccination Subject: RE: World Vision I concur with your " Side Note " regarding the non-word, " Immunization; " however, we must be aware that the public has been brainwashed into believing it is a word, and if we want to make sure others know what we are talking about, we need to use the " publicly accepted vocabulary " they are accustomed to hearing. ~~Ruth/REU World Vision Group, I canceled my monthly support of World Vision today. World Vision is a Christian based group that provides many services and goods to children all over the world. I've given to them for years, and it dawned on me the other day to call and ask if my money is being used to immunize children. I called today and found out that part of their service to children is providing immunizations. They do so many OTHER wonderful things, but I can no longer support a group who promotes immunizing children. I'm sure they, just as so many others, do not realize the harm they're doing....but I do understand the harmful effects and can not support them any longer. Hopefully, I'll find another beneficial organization to give my money to. Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 , I certainly do not wish to nit-pick or split hairs on this subject because I believe we both have more important things to do with our time: uniting rather than dividing. That having been said, let me say that I would agree with your statements for the most part--except that as you are undoubtedly aware, the majority of the public, naive or not, have adopted the "herd" and or "lemming" mentality; blindly following without asking questions--and certainly that indicates one is better off using the more recognizable terminology--even if we know better. It has been shown that most people don't understand what they read if it above sixth or eighth grade level. That, too, is an indication of what we're up against. If we are trying to educate the naive, would it not make sense to use their vernacular? ~~Ruth/REU World Vision Group, I canceled my monthly support of World Vision today. World Vision is a Christian based group that provides many services and goods to children all over the world. I've given to them for years, and it dawned on me the other day to call and ask if my money is being used to immunize children. I called today and found out that part of their service to children is providing immunizations. They do so many OTHER wonderful things, but I can no longer support a group who promotes immunizing children. I'm sure they, just as so many others, do not realize the harm they're doing....but I do understand the harmful effects and can not support them any longer. Hopefully, I'll find another beneficial organization to give my money to. Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 , I certainly do not wish to nit-pick or split hairs on this subject because I believe we both have more important things to do with our time: uniting rather than dividing. That having been said, let me say that I would agree with your statements for the most part--except that as you are undoubtedly aware, the majority of the public, naive or not, have adopted the "herd" and or "lemming" mentality; blindly following without asking questions--and certainly that indicates one is better off using the more recognizable terminology--even if we know better. It has been shown that most people don't understand what they read if it above sixth or eighth grade level. That, too, is an indication of what we're up against. If we are trying to educate the naive, would it not make sense to use their vernacular? ~~Ruth/REU World Vision Group, I canceled my monthly support of World Vision today. World Vision is a Christian based group that provides many services and goods to children all over the world. I've given to them for years, and it dawned on me the other day to call and ask if my money is being used to immunize children. I called today and found out that part of their service to children is providing immunizations. They do so many OTHER wonderful things, but I can no longer support a group who promotes immunizing children. I'm sure they, just as so many others, do not realize the harm they're doing....but I do understand the harmful effects and can not support them any longer. Hopefully, I'll find another beneficial organization to give my money to. Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 If we are trying to educate the naive, would it not make sense to use their vernacular? No, not in my mind. You’re right; we are on the same page and believe these vaccinations exist for all the wrong reasons. However, giving in to the use of the word “immunization” is a kin to believing 2+2 = 5. It’s a mind-crime. We are all born with immunity. I will not allow Big-Pharmco / Big-Brother to, in essence, steal my immunity through the use of the word “immunization”. They cannot take from me what I already have and what I can control through lifestyle—my immunity. They may be able to claim they are vaccinating or inoculating, but there’s no way they can take ownership of my immunity by saying they are “immunizing”. When they stream chemicals into the arm of a human being and say they are “immunizing” that person they are, in truth, doing the exact opposite. How can you educate someone without teaching the difference between vaccination and immunization? The creation of the word “immunization” is a big part of this marketing engine. It’s time we take back our immunity and it starts by not using their methods of coercion. You don’t believe people should vaccinate their children simply because the masses do. Why do you allow yourself to use this non-word simply because it’s a more recognizable term? From: no-forced-vaccination [mailto:no-forced-vaccination ] On Behalf Of putney1963@... Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 4:34 AM To: no-forced-vaccination Subject: RE: World Vision , I certainly do not wish to nit-pick or split hairs on this subject because I believe we both have more important things to do with our time: uniting rather than dividing. That having been said, let me say that I would agree with your statements for the most part--except that as you are undoubtedly aware, the majority of the public, naive or not, have adopted the " herd " and or " lemming " mentality; blindly following without asking questions--and certainly that indicates one is better off using the more recognizable terminology--even if we know better. It has been shown that most people don't understand what they read if it above sixth or eighth grade level. That, too, is an indication of what we're up against. If we are trying to educate the naive, would it not make sense to use their vernacular? ~~Ruth/REU World Vision Group, I canceled my monthly support of World Vision today. World Vision is a Christian based group that provides many services and goods to children all over the world. I've given to them for years, and it dawned on me the other day to call and ask if my money is being used to immunize children. I called today and found out that part of their service to children is providing immunizations. They do so many OTHER wonderful things, but I can no longer support a group who promotes immunizing children. I'm sure they, just as so many others, do not realize the harm they're doing....but I do understand the harmful effects and can not support them any longer. Hopefully, I'll find another beneficial organization to give my money to. Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 If we are trying to educate the naive, would it not make sense to use their vernacular? No, not in my mind. You’re right; we are on the same page and believe these vaccinations exist for all the wrong reasons. However, giving in to the use of the word “immunization” is a kin to believing 2+2 = 5. It’s a mind-crime. We are all born with immunity. I will not allow Big-Pharmco / Big-Brother to, in essence, steal my immunity through the use of the word “immunization”. They cannot take from me what I already have and what I can control through lifestyle—my immunity. They may be able to claim they are vaccinating or inoculating, but there’s no way they can take ownership of my immunity by saying they are “immunizing”. When they stream chemicals into the arm of a human being and say they are “immunizing” that person they are, in truth, doing the exact opposite. How can you educate someone without teaching the difference between vaccination and immunization? The creation of the word “immunization” is a big part of this marketing engine. It’s time we take back our immunity and it starts by not using their methods of coercion. You don’t believe people should vaccinate their children simply because the masses do. Why do you allow yourself to use this non-word simply because it’s a more recognizable term? From: no-forced-vaccination [mailto:no-forced-vaccination ] On Behalf Of putney1963@... Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 4:34 AM To: no-forced-vaccination Subject: RE: World Vision , I certainly do not wish to nit-pick or split hairs on this subject because I believe we both have more important things to do with our time: uniting rather than dividing. That having been said, let me say that I would agree with your statements for the most part--except that as you are undoubtedly aware, the majority of the public, naive or not, have adopted the " herd " and or " lemming " mentality; blindly following without asking questions--and certainly that indicates one is better off using the more recognizable terminology--even if we know better. It has been shown that most people don't understand what they read if it above sixth or eighth grade level. That, too, is an indication of what we're up against. If we are trying to educate the naive, would it not make sense to use their vernacular? ~~Ruth/REU World Vision Group, I canceled my monthly support of World Vision today. World Vision is a Christian based group that provides many services and goods to children all over the world. I've given to them for years, and it dawned on me the other day to call and ask if my money is being used to immunize children. I called today and found out that part of their service to children is providing immunizations. They do so many OTHER wonderful things, but I can no longer support a group who promotes immunizing children. I'm sure they, just as so many others, do not realize the harm they're doing....but I do understand the harmful effects and can not support them any longer. Hopefully, I'll find another beneficial organization to give my money to. Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 I apologize for starting this whole conversation about the word "immunization". I used it in error; I have just heard it used so many times even among people who do not vaccinate their children. I guess we need to make an effort to use the correct terminology. We who are fairly new to the dangers and truths about vaccines can sometimes get our words mixed up. The important thing is that we know the various dangers of vaccines and are avoiding them. Have a great day! Welch <john@...> wrote: If we are trying to educate the naive, would it not make sense to use their vernacular? No, not in my mind. You’re right; we are on the same page and believe these vaccinations exist for all the wrong reasons. However, giving in to the use of the word “immunization” is a kin to believing 2+2 = 5. It’s a mind-crime. We are all born with immunity. I will not allow Big-Pharmco / Big-Brother to, in essence, steal my immunity through the use of the word “immunization”. They cannot take from me what I already have and what I can control through lifestyle—my immunity. They may be able to claim they are vaccinating or inoculating, but there’s no way they can take ownership of my immunity by saying they are “immunizing”. When they stream chemicals into the arm of a human being and say they are “immunizing” that person they are, in truth, doing the exact opposite. How can you educate someone without teaching the difference between vaccination and immunization? The creation of the word “immunization” is a big part of this marketing engine. It’s time we take back our immunity and it starts by not using their methods of coercion. You don’t believe people should vaccinate their children simply because the masses do. Why do you allow yourself to use this non-word simply because it’s a more recognizable term? From: no-forced-vaccination [mailto:no-forced-vaccination ] On Behalf Of putney1963earthlink (DOT) netSent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 4:34 AMno-forced-vaccination Subject: RE: World Vision , I certainly do not wish to nit-pick or split hairs on this subject because I believe we both have more important things to do with our time: uniting rather than dividing. That having been said, let me say that I would agree with your statements for the most part--except that as you are undoubtedly aware, the majority of the public, naive or not, have adopted the "herd" and or "lemming" mentality; blindly following without asking questions--and certainly that indicates one is better off using the more recognizable terminology--even if we know better. It has been shown that most people don't understand what they read if it above sixth or eighth grade level. That, too, is an indication of what we're up against. If we are trying to educate the naive, would it not make sense to use their vernacular? ~~Ruth/REU World Vision Group, I canceled my monthly support of World Vision today. World Vision is a Christian based group that provides many services and goods to children all over the world. I've given to them for years, and it dawned on me the other day to call and ask if my money is being used to immunize children. I called today and found out that part of their service to children is providing immunizations. They do so many OTHER wonderful things, but I can no longer support a group who promotes immunizing children. I'm sure they, just as so many others, do not realize the harm they're doing....but I do understand the harmful effects and can not support them any longer. Hopefully, I'll find another beneficial organization to give my money to. Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 I apologize for starting this whole conversation about the word "immunization". I used it in error; I have just heard it used so many times even among people who do not vaccinate their children. I guess we need to make an effort to use the correct terminology. We who are fairly new to the dangers and truths about vaccines can sometimes get our words mixed up. The important thing is that we know the various dangers of vaccines and are avoiding them. Have a great day! Welch <john@...> wrote: If we are trying to educate the naive, would it not make sense to use their vernacular? No, not in my mind. You’re right; we are on the same page and believe these vaccinations exist for all the wrong reasons. However, giving in to the use of the word “immunization” is a kin to believing 2+2 = 5. It’s a mind-crime. We are all born with immunity. I will not allow Big-Pharmco / Big-Brother to, in essence, steal my immunity through the use of the word “immunization”. They cannot take from me what I already have and what I can control through lifestyle—my immunity. They may be able to claim they are vaccinating or inoculating, but there’s no way they can take ownership of my immunity by saying they are “immunizing”. When they stream chemicals into the arm of a human being and say they are “immunizing” that person they are, in truth, doing the exact opposite. How can you educate someone without teaching the difference between vaccination and immunization? The creation of the word “immunization” is a big part of this marketing engine. It’s time we take back our immunity and it starts by not using their methods of coercion. You don’t believe people should vaccinate their children simply because the masses do. Why do you allow yourself to use this non-word simply because it’s a more recognizable term? From: no-forced-vaccination [mailto:no-forced-vaccination ] On Behalf Of putney1963earthlink (DOT) netSent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 4:34 AMno-forced-vaccination Subject: RE: World Vision , I certainly do not wish to nit-pick or split hairs on this subject because I believe we both have more important things to do with our time: uniting rather than dividing. That having been said, let me say that I would agree with your statements for the most part--except that as you are undoubtedly aware, the majority of the public, naive or not, have adopted the "herd" and or "lemming" mentality; blindly following without asking questions--and certainly that indicates one is better off using the more recognizable terminology--even if we know better. It has been shown that most people don't understand what they read if it above sixth or eighth grade level. That, too, is an indication of what we're up against. If we are trying to educate the naive, would it not make sense to use their vernacular? ~~Ruth/REU World Vision Group, I canceled my monthly support of World Vision today. World Vision is a Christian based group that provides many services and goods to children all over the world. I've given to them for years, and it dawned on me the other day to call and ask if my money is being used to immunize children. I called today and found out that part of their service to children is providing immunizations. They do so many OTHER wonderful things, but I can no longer support a group who promotes immunizing children. I'm sure they, just as so many others, do not realize the harm they're doing....but I do understand the harmful effects and can not support them any longer. Hopefully, I'll find another beneficial organization to give my money to. Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 : We are two different people, with two different backgrounds and two different points of view. I appreciate your point of view and your opinion on this issue. I believe we should agree to disagree on this, and move forward. ~~Ruth/REU World Vision Group, I canceled my monthly support of World Vision today. World Vision is a Christian based group that provides many services and goods to children all over the world. I've given to them for years, and it dawned on me the other day to call and ask if my money is being used to immunize children. I called today and found out that part of their service to children is providing immunizations. They do so many OTHER wonderful things, but I can no longer support a group who promotes immunizing children. I'm sure they, just as so many others, do not realize the harm they're doing....but I do understand the harmful effects and can not support them any longer. Hopefully, I'll find another beneficial organization to give my money to. Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 : We are two different people, with two different backgrounds and two different points of view. I appreciate your point of view and your opinion on this issue. I believe we should agree to disagree on this, and move forward. ~~Ruth/REU World Vision Group, I canceled my monthly support of World Vision today. World Vision is a Christian based group that provides many services and goods to children all over the world. I've given to them for years, and it dawned on me the other day to call and ask if my money is being used to immunize children. I called today and found out that part of their service to children is providing immunizations. They do so many OTHER wonderful things, but I can no longer support a group who promotes immunizing children. I'm sure they, just as so many others, do not realize the harm they're doing....but I do understand the harmful effects and can not support them any longer. Hopefully, I'll find another beneficial organization to give my money to. Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 There is no need to apologize, Holly. It's a very good thing to know about these differences. The balance of your remarks indicates the reasoning behind my point of view. ~~Ruth/REU World Vision Group, I canceled my monthly support of World Vision today. World Vision is a Christian based group that provides many services and goods to children all over the world. I've given to them for years, and it dawned on me the other day to call and ask if my money is being used to immunize children. I called today and found out that part of their service to children is providing immunizations. They do so many OTHER wonderful things, but I can no longer support a group who promotes immunizing children. I'm sure they, just as so many others, do not realize the harm they're doing....but I do understand the harmful effects and can not support them any longer. Hopefully, I'll find another beneficial organization to give my money to. Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 There is no need to apologize, Holly. It's a very good thing to know about these differences. The balance of your remarks indicates the reasoning behind my point of view. ~~Ruth/REU World Vision Group, I canceled my monthly support of World Vision today. World Vision is a Christian based group that provides many services and goods to children all over the world. I've given to them for years, and it dawned on me the other day to call and ask if my money is being used to immunize children. I called today and found out that part of their service to children is providing immunizations. They do so many OTHER wonderful things, but I can no longer support a group who promotes immunizing children. I'm sure they, just as so many others, do not realize the harm they're doing....but I do understand the harmful effects and can not support them any longer. Hopefully, I'll find another beneficial organization to give my money to. Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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