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Irene -

I have been making butter out of cream for about a week thinking the

same thing as you - no sugar + no carbs = yay! Gosh, but i thought we

were supposed to be able to eat butter on this diet??

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I think the butter is OK. When you make butter out of cream I think most of

the lactose is in the buttermilk that is leftover. I was making sour cream.

I used to add yogurt culture to cream and let it sour. It was wonderful but

probably has more lactose still left in it than is acceptable.

I should think you are OK with the butter. And homemade butter, how wonderful!

Irene

At 01:49 PM 5/26/2008, you wrote:

>Irene -

>I have been making butter out of cream for about a week thinking the

>same thing as you - no sugar + no carbs = yay! Gosh, but i thought we

>were supposed to be able to eat butter on this diet??

>

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Yeah, I don't do well on the extracts or stevia. But since the recipe calls

for vanilla or almond extract, I wondered what people might use instead. I

might try soaking a vanilla bean in water and trying that. I don't think

I'd like it plain.

Irene

At 07:24 AM 5/26/2008, you wrote:

>Hi Irene,

>I'm not able to tolerate flavorings right now. Most people seem to be

>able to have stevia but it feeds my yeast. I've tried the vanilla bean

>and found I couldn't tolerate that as well. In the end, I'm very

>satisfied with the fake cream as is.

>Anita

>

>In

><mailto: %40> ,

>irene.m@... wrote:

> >

> > What do you use for flavoring? Just curious.

> > Irene

>

> > The fake cream really has been a great

> > > > > substitute for me. Every evening I pour a cup or two into a

>bowl (I

> > > > > only use 1 T. gelatin - too globby otherwise), pop it in the

> > > > freezer

> > > > > for about an hour and then eat it with a spoon. It has an icey

> > > > crust

> > > > > on top and is cold and creamy inside. BTW, this is an excellent

> > > > way to

> > > > > get in protein (eggs and gelatin) and fats (butter).

> > > > > Anita

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

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Well I am in trouble if that is true. I use vanilla extract in the

spaghetti squash custard that I make for my son. The custard is the only

way I can get butter into him. If the vanilla isn't safe, I wonder why it

is in the fake cream recipe. I thought fake cream was supposed to be safe.

Irene

At 02:45 PM 5/25/2008, you wrote:

>e aware that vanilla bean has natural sugars in it so it's not really safe

>for us with candida -

>unless it's counted a s a weekly cheat.

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> >e aware that vanilla bean has natural sugars in it so it's not

really safe

> >for us with candida -

> >unless it's counted a s a weekly cheat.

> >

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I am using both the vanilla and pumpkin pie spice for him. I could

experiment a bit, but I am reluctant to change much because I am just so

happy to find a fat that he will eat. The other option is to try using

stevia. I am a bit concerned using stevia on a daily basis. I don't

tolerate it at all so I have a mental block that it isn't really safe. And

if I give him something really sweet that might cause him to want more

sweets. Might be silly since he muscle tests fine to stevia.

Irene

At 03:01 AM 5/27/2008, you wrote:

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> > >e aware that vanilla bean has natural sugars in it so it's not

>really safe

> > >for us with candida -

> > >unless it's counted a s a weekly cheat.

> > >

> >

>

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Hi Irene,

I know that Elaine Gotchall of SCD did not advocate for stevia as it's

structure is similar to hormones - I haven't compared, but this could be

part of your particular issue.

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That is interesting. You could be right. I feel really awful when I eat it.

Personally I can live without it. It is just finding things that my son

will eat. So far I have opted to use things like vanilla for him instead.

Thanks for the info,

Irene

At 09:11 AM 5/27/2008, you wrote:

>Hi Irene,

>

>I know that Elaine Gotchall of SCD did not advocate for stevia as it's

>structure is similar to hormones - I haven't compared, but this could be

>part of your particular issue.

>

>

>

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> I know that Elaine Gotchall of SCD did not advocate for stevia as it's

> structure is similar to hormones - I haven't compared, but this could be

> part of your particular issue.

>

>

>

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Hi Anita,

I think I read about stevia in Breaking The Vicious Cycle by Elaine

Gotchall. I haven't compared structures, but you could probably find a

structure on line and compare it to steroid hormones (there is a pretty good

picture of them on Wikipedia) such as estrogen (which does promote Candida

growth and may explain the female to male ratio). I am actually into

researching sulfites at the moment due to my daughter's health issues and

don't really have much time to look at stevia as I am also in the middle of

a move out of province. I am not sure there is any real research, just a

concern about the similarity.

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>

> Hi Anita,

>

>

>

> I think I read about stevia in Breaking The Vicious Cycle by Elaine

> Gotchall. I haven't compared structures, but you could probably find a

> structure on line and compare it to steroid hormones (there is a

pretty good

> picture of them on Wikipedia) such as estrogen (which does promote

Candida

> growth and may explain the female to male ratio). I am actually into

> researching sulfites at the moment due to my daughter's health

issues and

> don't really have much time to look at stevia as I am also in the

middle of

> a move out of province. I am not sure there is any real research,

just a

> concern about the similarity.

>

>

>

>

Thanks . I'll do some more digging around. Best wishes on your move.

Anita

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Hi Irene,

Fake cream is a recipe for cheating and should be used in moderation.

Bee

>

> Well I am in trouble if that is true. I use vanilla extract in the

> spaghetti squash custard that I make for my son. The custard is the

only

> way I can get butter into him. If the vanilla isn't safe, I wonder

why it

> is in the fake cream recipe. I thought fake cream was supposed to be

safe.

> Irene

>

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OK that is good to know. BTW, in your recipe files, for the fake cream it

states that it is good for Candida Diet.

Irene

At 05:09 AM 5/29/2008, you wrote:

>Hi Irene,

>Fake cream is a recipe for cheating and should be used in moderation.

>

>Bee

>

>

> >

> > Well I am in trouble if that is true. I use vanilla extract in the

> > spaghetti squash custard that I make for my son. The custard is the

>only

> > way I can get butter into him. If the vanilla isn't safe, I wonder

>why it

> > is in the fake cream recipe. I thought fake cream was supposed to be

>safe.

> > Irene

> >

>

>

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Thanks for the info. I will look it up.

Irene

At 05:46 PM 5/28/2008, you wrote:

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> >

> > Well I am in trouble if that is true. I use vanilla extract in the

> > spaghetti squash custard that I make for my son.

>

>Here is a link about Vanilla. It mentions that one of the chemicals

>in the vanilla bean is " vanillin " a natural sugar:

>www.cookswares.com/discussions/vanilla2.asp

>

>

>

>

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> >

> > Well I am in trouble if that is true. I use vanilla extract in

the

> > spaghetti squash custard that I make for my son. The custard is

the

> only

> > way I can get butter into him. If the vanilla isn't safe, I

wonder

> why it

> > is in the fake cream recipe. I thought fake cream was supposed to

be

> safe.

> > Irene

> >

>

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>

> Hi Bee,

>

> Is cream ok to have occasionally a small amount in a dandelion tea?

If I am going to cheat is

> it better for me than a tea with milk?

>

> Love Lee xoxo

==>Hi Lee. Cream is better to cheat with than milk. The rule about

lactose (sugar) in dairy is: The higher the butterfat content the

lower the lactose, so whipping cream would be even better.

Why don't you try Fake Cream or Egg Milk instead? The recipes are on

my website: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/

The best, Bee

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Hi Bee,

I will try the fake cream recipe. Thank you for all your help you are wonderful

xoxo

Lee

> >

> > Hi Bee,

> >

> > Is cream ok to have occasionally a small amount in a dandelion tea?

> If I am going to cheat is

> > it better for me than a tea with milk?

> >

> > Love Lee xoxo

>

> ==>Hi Lee. Cream is better to cheat with than milk. The rule about

> lactose (sugar) in dairy is: The higher the butterfat content the

> lower the lactose, so whipping cream would be even better.

>

> Why don't you try Fake Cream or Egg Milk instead? The recipes are on

> my website: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/

>

> The best, Bee

>

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> Why is cream from raw milk not allowed? Isn't it all fat and the

> derivative of butter?

Hi Ellen. No, cream is not all fat. And it is the other way around;

butter is made from cream which is churned or whipped until it

separates into two parts: 1) liquid, which is buttermilk, and 2) fats,

which is the butter. Look up how to make butter and you'll understand

better.

Bee

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>

> hi everyone. i just wanted to check in about the cream i've been

using as i ease into the

> program. i had a look at it today, and it reads 2 g carbohydrate, 3 g

protein, 44 g fat.

> compared to the butter we use, which is 1 g each carb and protein, to

50 g fat, it is very

> similar (and looks it too! if i leave it out it is practically

butter!) is there any problem using

> the cream? it would certainly help me stay away from yogurt, which i

have a passion for.

>

++elisa, butter is made from cream, wherein all but the butterfat in

cream has been removed. Cream contains lactose (sugar) which feeds

candida. The rule about lactose is: the higher the butterfat content

the lower the lactose, so that is why butter is okay and cream is not.

If you have a passion for anything take 500 mg vitamin C every time you

feel you want it, which helps curb cravings - see these articles for

more help with cravings and withdrawal symptoms:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/menu_2_5_3.php

Bee

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