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July 7, 2008

Hello Ingrid. I read that seratonine/Crib Death story too, but hadnt gotten around to formulating a response to it, or researching it more fully, before responding. Oh well. But I do have a few comments. They want to start Testing Babies for this so-called-condition. WHAT ARE THEY TESTING? IF they find it, wouldnt it warrant an automatic medical vaccine Exemption - FOR LIFE? Just like the mitochondrial babies. I think mitochondrial babies are vaccine damage too.(for the most part) I dont think they get that way until after a vaccine! AND I dont think they are going to find the seratonine thing, unless they Test after a baby has a vaccine. And if they find it, what are they going to do, find a Vaccine against this seratonine disorder??? You Betsha!! I also dont think they will find it in unvaccinated babies!! IT was only a few years ago that Mercola talked

about how vaccines alter the chemicals of the brain, esp. seratonine. SO, to me, 1 + 1 = VACCINE DAMAGE! Not apples and oranges. Not a suddenly discovered SIDS disease like they are trying to make it out to be. SIDS is a fairly new occurance since vaccine numbers have been increasing over the last few decades. There has been studies as far back as 1985 about vaccines excito-toxin effects on the brain chemicals. of animals as well as people and babies, esp. seratonine! These Italian scientist need to do their studies with vaccinated and unvaccinated babies!!!!!!!!! Then they might be able to add 1 + 1 = SIDS Glad Day ~ Karla in IL

July 7, 2008

Hello Ingrid. I read that seratonine/Crib Death story too, but hadnt gotten around to formulating a response to it, or researching it more fully, before responding. Oh well. But I do have a few comments. They want to start Testing Babies for this so-called-condition. WHAT ARE THEY TESTING? IF they find it, wouldnt it warrant an automatic medical vaccine Exemption - FOR LIFE? Just like the mitochondrial babies. I think mitochondrial babies are vaccine damage too.(for the most part) I dont think they get that way until after a vaccine! AND I dont think they are going to find the seratonine thing, unless they Test after a baby has a vaccine. And if they find it, what are they going to do, find a Vaccine against this seratonine disorder??? You Betsha!! I also dont think they will find it in unvaccinated babies!! IT was only a few years ago that Mercola talked

about how vaccines alter the chemicals of the brain, esp. seratonine. SO, to me, 1 + 1 = VACCINE DAMAGE! Not apples and oranges. Not a suddenly discovered SIDS disease like they are trying to make it out to be. SIDS is a fairly new occurance since vaccine numbers have been increasing over the last few decades. There has been studies as far back as 1985 about vaccines excito-toxin effects on the brain chemicals. of animals as well as people and babies, esp. seratonine! These Italian scientist need to do their studies with vaccinated and unvaccinated babies!!!!!!!!! Then they might be able to add 1 + 1 = SIDS Glad Day ~ Karla in IL

July 7, 2008

You know what's funny... everything they're talking about relates to crying it out. When a baby cries himself to sleep his cortisol levels rise to an extreme which actually contributes to crib death

BEST book on the topic is Baby Matters by Dr. Palmer. SUPER scientific backup.On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 6:23 AM, karla walsh <faerie1952@...> wrote:

Hello Ingrid. I read that seratonine/Crib Death story too, but hadnt gotten around to formulating a response to it, or researching it more fully, before responding. Oh well. But I do have a few comments.

They want to start Testing Babies for this so-called-condition. WHAT ARE THEY TESTING? IF they find it, wouldnt it warrant an automatic medical vaccine Exemption - FOR LIFE? Just like the mitochondrial babies. I think mitochondrial babies are vaccine damage too.(for the most part) I dont think they get that way until after a vaccine!

AND I dont think they are going to find the seratonine thing, unless they Test after a baby has a vaccine. And if they find it, what are they going to do, find a Vaccine against this seratonine disorder??? You Betsha!! I also dont think they will find it in unvaccinated babies!!

IT was only a few years ago that Mercola talked

about how vaccines alter the chemicals of the brain, esp. seratonine. SO, to me, 1 + 1 = VACCINE DAMAGE! Not apples and oranges. Not a suddenly discovered SIDS disease like they are trying to make it out to be. SIDS is a fairly new occurance since vaccine numbers have been increasing over the last few decades.

There has been studies as far back as 1985 about vaccines excito-toxin effects on the brain chemicals. of animals as well as people and babies, esp. seratonine! These Italian scientist need to do their studies with vaccinated and unvaccinated babies!!!!!!!!! Then they might be able to add 1 + 1 = SIDS

Glad Day ~ Karla in IL

July 7, 2008

You know what's funny... everything they're talking about relates to crying it out. When a baby cries himself to sleep his cortisol levels rise to an extreme which actually contributes to crib death

BEST book on the topic is Baby Matters by Dr. Palmer. SUPER scientific backup.On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 6:23 AM, karla walsh <faerie1952@...> wrote:

Hello Ingrid. I read that seratonine/Crib Death story too, but hadnt gotten around to formulating a response to it, or researching it more fully, before responding. Oh well. But I do have a few comments.

They want to start Testing Babies for this so-called-condition. WHAT ARE THEY TESTING? IF they find it, wouldnt it warrant an automatic medical vaccine Exemption - FOR LIFE? Just like the mitochondrial babies. I think mitochondrial babies are vaccine damage too.(for the most part) I dont think they get that way until after a vaccine!

AND I dont think they are going to find the seratonine thing, unless they Test after a baby has a vaccine. And if they find it, what are they going to do, find a Vaccine against this seratonine disorder??? You Betsha!! I also dont think they will find it in unvaccinated babies!!

IT was only a few years ago that Mercola talked

about how vaccines alter the chemicals of the brain, esp. seratonine. SO, to me, 1 + 1 = VACCINE DAMAGE! Not apples and oranges. Not a suddenly discovered SIDS disease like they are trying to make it out to be. SIDS is a fairly new occurance since vaccine numbers have been increasing over the last few decades.

There has been studies as far back as 1985 about vaccines excito-toxin effects on the brain chemicals. of animals as well as people and babies, esp. seratonine! These Italian scientist need to do their studies with vaccinated and unvaccinated babies!!!!!!!!! Then they might be able to add 1 + 1 = SIDS

Glad Day ~ Karla in IL

July 7, 2008

This is very interesting, but it's a shame they have to use mice--and genetically modified ones at that!!! I've often wondered whether or not SIDS was perhaps a form of sleep apnea. That's probably way off base--but if it's not, it's very likely that such an idea is far too simple for researchers such as these individuals to even allow it to enter their minds as even a remote possibility. ~~Ruth/REU

Pity they don't have a comment section!

Chemical imbalance may cause crib deathReutersJuly 07 2008 at 06:52AMAn imbalance of a key brain chemical could cause crib death, researcherssaid in what they called a chance discovery.They created mice whose sudden deaths resembled crib death in humans, andfound that the key may be an out-of-balance self-regulating systemcontrolling the nerve-signalling chemical serotonin.Writing in the journal Science, they said they hoped their experiment canhelp doctors pinpoint human babies at high risk of Sudden Infant DeathSyndrome (Sids), also known as cot death."At first sight the mice were normal," said Cornelius Gross of the EuropeanMolecular Biology Laboratory in Italy, who led the study."But then they suffered sporadic and unpredictable drops in heart rate andbody temperature. More than half of the mice eventually died of these crisesduring a restricted period of early life. It was at that point that wethought it might have something to do with Sids."Sids is a leading cause of death in babies under a year old in the developedworld, yet its root cause remains a mystery.Even healthy-looking infants can die in less than an hour. Smoking aroundinfants and during pregnancy also seems to be linked to Sids, and campaignsto put babies to sleep on their backs instead of prone reduced crib deathrates in several countries. Cautioning parents about overheated rooms andminimising bedding that could cause suffocation also may have reduced rates,but Sids still kills one in every 2 000 babies globally."Ultimately, we hope it will give new ideas to doctors about how to diagnosebabies at risk for Sids," said Enrica Audero, a researcher who worked on thestudy.In May, British scientists said they had pinpointed two common bacteria thatmay contribute to crib deaths, even when infants show no sign of tissuedamage.Gross said his team was studying the brain chemical's relationship toanxiety and aggression before they realised their results might havesomething to do with crib death.Genetically-engineered mice, whose self-regulating serotonin system wasturned off did not die, showing it was worse to have a malfunctioning systemthan no system at all, he added.Serotonin neurons in the brainstem - part of the brain that controlsbreathing and other unconscious functions - do not work properly ingene-engineered mice.Gross's team found that the mice died suddenly after failing to activate keybrain functions, including the regulation of body temperature and heartrate.While the researchers said it is unlikely the molecular mechanism is thesame in humans, they believe their findings may one day help identify babiesat greatest risk.

July 7, 2008

This is very interesting, but it's a shame they have to use mice--and genetically modified ones at that!!! I've often wondered whether or not SIDS was perhaps a form of sleep apnea. That's probably way off base--but if it's not, it's very likely that such an idea is far too simple for researchers such as these individuals to even allow it to enter their minds as even a remote possibility. ~~Ruth/REU

Pity they don't have a comment section!

Chemical imbalance may cause crib deathReutersJuly 07 2008 at 06:52AMAn imbalance of a key brain chemical could cause crib death, researcherssaid in what they called a chance discovery.They created mice whose sudden deaths resembled crib death in humans, andfound that the key may be an out-of-balance self-regulating systemcontrolling the nerve-signalling chemical serotonin.Writing in the journal Science, they said they hoped their experiment canhelp doctors pinpoint human babies at high risk of Sudden Infant DeathSyndrome (Sids), also known as cot death."At first sight the mice were normal," said Cornelius Gross of the EuropeanMolecular Biology Laboratory in Italy, who led the study."But then they suffered sporadic and unpredictable drops in heart rate andbody temperature. More than half of the mice eventually died of these crisesduring a restricted period of early life. It was at that point that wethought it might have something to do with Sids."Sids is a leading cause of death in babies under a year old in the developedworld, yet its root cause remains a mystery.Even healthy-looking infants can die in less than an hour. Smoking aroundinfants and during pregnancy also seems to be linked to Sids, and campaignsto put babies to sleep on their backs instead of prone reduced crib deathrates in several countries. Cautioning parents about overheated rooms andminimising bedding that could cause suffocation also may have reduced rates,but Sids still kills one in every 2 000 babies globally."Ultimately, we hope it will give new ideas to doctors about how to diagnosebabies at risk for Sids," said Enrica Audero, a researcher who worked on thestudy.In May, British scientists said they had pinpointed two common bacteria thatmay contribute to crib deaths, even when infants show no sign of tissuedamage.Gross said his team was studying the brain chemical's relationship toanxiety and aggression before they realised their results might havesomething to do with crib death.Genetically-engineered mice, whose self-regulating serotonin system wasturned off did not die, showing it was worse to have a malfunctioning systemthan no system at all, he added.Serotonin neurons in the brainstem - part of the brain that controlsbreathing and other unconscious functions - do not work properly ingene-engineered mice.Gross's team found that the mice died suddenly after failing to activate keybrain functions, including the regulation of body temperature and heartrate.While the researchers said it is unlikely the molecular mechanism is thesame in humans, they believe their findings may one day help identify babiesat greatest risk.

July 7, 2008

Very interesting. Thanks for the title and author information on this!! ~~Ruth/REU

Re: Pity they don't have a comment section!

You know what's funny... everything they're talking about relates to crying it out. When a baby cries himself to sleep his cortisol levels rise to an extreme which actually contributes to crib death :)BEST book on the topic is Baby Matters by Dr. Palmer. SUPER scientific backup.

On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 6:23 AM, karla walsh <faerie1952 > wrote:

Hello Ingrid. I read that seratonine/Crib Death story too, but hadnt gotten around to formulating a response to it, or researching it more fully, before responding. Oh well. But I do have a few comments.

They want to start Testing Babies for this so-called-condition. WHAT ARE THEY TESTING? IF they find it, wouldnt it warrant an automatic medical vaccine Exemption - FOR LIFE? Just like the mitochondrial babies. I think mitochondrial babies are vaccine damage too.(for the most part) I dont think they get that way until after a vaccine!

AND I dont think they are going to find the seratonine thing, unless they Test after a baby has a vaccine.

And if they find it, what are they going to do, find a Vaccine against this seratonine disorder??? You Betsha!! I also dont think they will find it in unvaccinated babies!!

IT was only a few years ago that Mercola talked about how vaccines alter the chemicals of the brain, esp. seratonine. SO, to me, 1 + 1 = VACCINE DAMAGE! Not apples and oranges. Not a suddenly discovered SIDS disease like they are trying to make it out to be. SIDS is a fairly new occurance since vaccine numbers have been increasing over the last few decades.

There has been studies as far back as 1985 about vaccines excito-toxin effects on the brain chemicals. of animals as well as people and babies, esp. seratonine!

These Italian scientist need to do their studies with vaccinated and unvaccinated babies!!!!!!!!! Then they might be able to add 1 + 1 = SIDS

Glad Day ~ Karla in IL

July 7, 2008