Re: Outline of Action Plan

[Guest guest]

Hi there I think that the most important people to work with us now are the DOCTORS...yes I have been there...done that...the difference now is that the younger docs know that the meds are not working...and can be educated...they are starting to HEAR us...we need to get to them first...I know I was just there tonight..All the NIC tests on the product for this woman with 2 stage 4 cancers breast, lung, & brain...some tumors are 3cm) was presented to her Oncologist by the patient..She said the National Cancer Insitute did studies on this product which is all natural...will he condone her taking it the day she starts radiation...I spoke with him, not attacking, I wanted to put him in contact with the scientist and gave him some

valuable info that a major cancer center in Alabama who had done tests on over 6,000 patients in the past two years were going to put this product in as their major cancer treatment...does that say allot???????? I also told her doc to see the NIC results...he told me that this product would cause her more problems with her breats cancer but when I asked him if he knew of Haelan951...he never heard of it,...The patient is trying to make a good decision when he said he did not want her on it...People, she is making her own decision tonight after three treatments of radiation and forty tumors in her brain which were not there two weeks ago..I gave up tonight and let it go...I cannot hate...I must go on...this Doc said :Dr. Lang I am sorry but I am going to a concert with my family!!!! So tonight I must go on and hope for more education...Dr. Debra Lang

Re: [no-forced-vaccinat ion] Outline of Action Plan

I am back. Now let me try to put all this in as short an email as possible. There will be many questions about it. What I am trying to do is to give a rough outline first.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with inherent and inalienable rights; that among these, are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness; that to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed; that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness." --Declaration of Independence as originally written by Jefferson, 1776. ME 1:29, Papers 1:315

The above paragraph illustrates that people have the power and the right to change a destructive government. The federal government of the USA has become destructive to the American people as well as to people outside America. The American people have the right and the duty to change such a destructive government as they are ultimately responsible for the actions of their government. We also have to remember that every right has a duty attached to it. In other words, people are responsible.

There are many instances in which the federal government is violating people's rights and freedoms which are:

the freedoms of speech, press, and religion; the well-regulated militia's right to keep and bear arms; the freedom of assembly; the freedom to petition; and the rights to be free of unreasonable search and seizure; cruel and unusual punishment; and compelled self-incrimination.

I don't know where to place the forced vaccination but it evidently is not a right of the government to impose forced medications of any kind. Governments will force the vaccinations on people as long as the pressure from the people is not strong enough to make the government abandon this tactic.

How can this be done? How can government be forced to change this program?

Let's ask how the government gets away with forced vaccinations. What are their most successful weapons the government is using against the people? Aren't they fear? Government threatens people with imprisonment - people fear imprisonment. Government threatens people with intimidation - people fear being intimidated by police, the courts, law suits, etc. Government is playing on human emotions.

Now we have to realize that police officers, judges, lawyers, senators, government employees are also people. So are the officers with the SWAT team, the ambulance attendants, doctors, nurses, FDA employees, etc. They have the same emotions and uncertainties as everyone else. They also fear. And, they know when they do wrong.

My program was based on these specifics.

I had certain steps I followed every time I did a flyer campaign. They are as follows:

- Let people involved know beforehand what you have in mind IF THEY CONTINUE WITH THEIR UNACCEPTABLE ACTIONS, in this case forced vaccinations.

- Give the people involved a specified time to respond.

- Ask people involved how they want to change their program or actions, or, how they intend to rectify the damage done.

It is very important to give the people enough time to respond and to warn them beforehand of what they can expect if they continue with their unacceptable actions.

If the people do not respond then go ahead within the outlined time limit and follow the specified actions without delay.

What I would envision in the forced vaccination case is as follows:

Get in touch with all the medical professionals you know are against forced vaccinations. Outline to them your ideas. Ask them to get in touch with their clients that are against forced vaccinations and people that have suffered from vaccinations. Get as many people involved as possible. Get them on a mailing list. Start an education campaign. Get them involved. Let them study the different vaccination websites - that is web sites for and against vaccinations. They will have to be familiar with both so that they can understand where the vaccination story is false, where they lie started. Let them know that Pasteur recanted on his death bed.

Once you have enough people interested in participating there is one more part they have to understand, and that is the psychological aspect of this program. How do people react to exposure. Why does this program has to be executed in this manner. Why it will not work any other way. The flyers have to be written and have to be distributed by the people involved or by a professional delivery company. It is most successful if people distribute the flyers themselves because they are now involved, they have a stake in it. The flyers have to be written in a way that leaves no doubt as to what forced vaccination is and in general what vaccinations are and the purpose they are serving. In my opinion, and what I have studied and read about it, it has ONLY ONE PURPOSE AND THAT IS POPULATION CONTROL. And there are a number of examples which prove that this is so. All this has to get on the flyers and people in positions who

advocate forced vaccinations have to be made aware of this. They have to be clear without a shadow of a doubt what awaits them if they continue with their program - they are following a program which results in premeditated murder.

Let's assume that the people responsible for the forced vaccinations will not believe you and continue with their methods, which I doubt if the preparatory steps are done right, then you will have to write the flyers. It will not be one flyer, it will not be two flyers, there might be 20 or 30 or more flyers on the same case. You start with one flyer. A few days later the second flyer will be distributed with more information about vaccination. Then a third one. By that time the government will have taken some steps to counter your program. Then you will have to address this government action. I don't know what will happen. Somebody might get arrested. Whatever will happen you have to continue if you want to be successful. To dissolve a growing dictatorship is no easy task. If nothing is done America will cease to exist as it was known up to now. And the people will bear the responsibility because the people are

ultimately responsible for the actions of their government. Americans do not realize yet how precarious their situation is.

Now one might argue that it would be advisable to wait till Ron is president. Remember what happened to Kennedy? If the powers behind the scenes, the people who really pull the strings, decide that Ron has to go he will get murdered. That's the sad truth. What will or can they do when millions of people start to expose the crooks in government? Do you think that any of the flunkies in government will be willing to listen to the string pullers? I am sure they will not. This is the situation that has to be created. Government has to become afraid of the people again. That's when a country is healthy. That's when things are going the way they ought to run. But that only happens when people fulfill their responsibilities. Now keep in mind that not everyone will participate. But not everyone needs to participate. History has shown that with any major change only about 3% of the people take part. I believe that

if you can mobilize 100000 people and up you have it made.

There might be a lot of resistance to this program because it is exposing people and their CRIMINAL actions. Most people do not like to do this. There we have to realize that criminals cannot be dealt with in any other manner. They do not understand any other language.

Now I have to make you aware of a new bill about before Congress, I believe, and it is H.R. 1955. You can google it

One more thing, about myself. If you have googled my name you might be under the impression that I am a radical or something like this. Don't forget that the corporate media has the great ability of slanting the truth, dispense half truth or half the story in such a way that the story is totally different than what it really is. Corporate media represents the interests of the government. As you well know, when you are on the opposite side of government you can be sure to be smeared, attacked, vilified, etc. I had a death threat uttered against me by two police officers a few years back. That didn't go anywhere because I made this public on flyers. There is always a way to counteract ANY government threats.

This is a broad outline of my program I followed for many years with great success.

It is up to the American people if they REALLY want to put and end to the criminal government actions against them. I would be more than willing to help you in any way I can.

Fred Kyburz

On 09.01.2008, at 16:44, majestichealth wrote:

[Guest guest]

Hi there I think that the most important people to work with us now are the DOCTORS...yes I have been there...done that...the difference now is that the younger docs know that the meds are not working...and can be educated...they are starting to HEAR us...we need to get to them first...I know I was just there tonight..All the NIC tests on the product for this woman with 2 stage 4 cancers breast, lung, & brain...some tumors are 3cm) was presented to her Oncologist by the patient..She said the National Cancer Insitute did studies on this product which is all natural...will he condone her taking it the day she starts radiation...I spoke with him, not attacking, I wanted to put him in contact with the scientist and gave him some

valuable info that a major cancer center in Alabama who had done tests on over 6,000 patients in the past two years were going to put this product in as their major cancer treatment...does that say allot???????? I also told her doc to see the NIC results...he told me that this product would cause her more problems with her breats cancer but when I asked him if he knew of Haelan951...he never heard of it,...The patient is trying to make a good decision when he said he did not want her on it...People, she is making her own decision tonight after three treatments of radiation and forty tumors in her brain which were not there two weeks ago..I gave up tonight and let it go...I cannot hate...I must go on...this Doc said :Dr. Lang I am sorry but I am going to a concert with my family!!!! So tonight I must go on and hope for more education...Dr. Debra Lang

Re: [no-forced-vaccinat ion] Outline of Action Plan

I am back. Now let me try to put all this in as short an email as possible. There will be many questions about it. What I am trying to do is to give a rough outline first.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with inherent and inalienable rights; that among these, are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness; that to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed; that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness." --Declaration of Independence as originally written by Jefferson, 1776. ME 1:29, Papers 1:315

The above paragraph illustrates that people have the power and the right to change a destructive government. The federal government of the USA has become destructive to the American people as well as to people outside America. The American people have the right and the duty to change such a destructive government as they are ultimately responsible for the actions of their government. We also have to remember that every right has a duty attached to it. In other words, people are responsible.

There are many instances in which the federal government is violating people's rights and freedoms which are:

the freedoms of speech, press, and religion; the well-regulated militia's right to keep and bear arms; the freedom of assembly; the freedom to petition; and the rights to be free of unreasonable search and seizure; cruel and unusual punishment; and compelled self-incrimination.

I don't know where to place the forced vaccination but it evidently is not a right of the government to impose forced medications of any kind. Governments will force the vaccinations on people as long as the pressure from the people is not strong enough to make the government abandon this tactic.

How can this be done? How can government be forced to change this program?

Let's ask how the government gets away with forced vaccinations. What are their most successful weapons the government is using against the people? Aren't they fear? Government threatens people with imprisonment - people fear imprisonment. Government threatens people with intimidation - people fear being intimidated by police, the courts, law suits, etc. Government is playing on human emotions.

Now we have to realize that police officers, judges, lawyers, senators, government employees are also people. So are the officers with the SWAT team, the ambulance attendants, doctors, nurses, FDA employees, etc. They have the same emotions and uncertainties as everyone else. They also fear. And, they know when they do wrong.

My program was based on these specifics.

I had certain steps I followed every time I did a flyer campaign. They are as follows:

- Let people involved know beforehand what you have in mind IF THEY CONTINUE WITH THEIR UNACCEPTABLE ACTIONS, in this case forced vaccinations.

- Give the people involved a specified time to respond.

- Ask people involved how they want to change their program or actions, or, how they intend to rectify the damage done.

It is very important to give the people enough time to respond and to warn them beforehand of what they can expect if they continue with their unacceptable actions.

If the people do not respond then go ahead within the outlined time limit and follow the specified actions without delay.

What I would envision in the forced vaccination case is as follows:

Get in touch with all the medical professionals you know are against forced vaccinations. Outline to them your ideas. Ask them to get in touch with their clients that are against forced vaccinations and people that have suffered from vaccinations. Get as many people involved as possible. Get them on a mailing list. Start an education campaign. Get them involved. Let them study the different vaccination websites - that is web sites for and against vaccinations. They will have to be familiar with both so that they can understand where the vaccination story is false, where they lie started. Let them know that Pasteur recanted on his death bed.

Once you have enough people interested in participating there is one more part they have to understand, and that is the psychological aspect of this program. How do people react to exposure. Why does this program has to be executed in this manner. Why it will not work any other way. The flyers have to be written and have to be distributed by the people involved or by a professional delivery company. It is most successful if people distribute the flyers themselves because they are now involved, they have a stake in it. The flyers have to be written in a way that leaves no doubt as to what forced vaccination is and in general what vaccinations are and the purpose they are serving. In my opinion, and what I have studied and read about it, it has ONLY ONE PURPOSE AND THAT IS POPULATION CONTROL. And there are a number of examples which prove that this is so. All this has to get on the flyers and people in positions who

advocate forced vaccinations have to be made aware of this. They have to be clear without a shadow of a doubt what awaits them if they continue with their program - they are following a program which results in premeditated murder.

Let's assume that the people responsible for the forced vaccinations will not believe you and continue with their methods, which I doubt if the preparatory steps are done right, then you will have to write the flyers. It will not be one flyer, it will not be two flyers, there might be 20 or 30 or more flyers on the same case. You start with one flyer. A few days later the second flyer will be distributed with more information about vaccination. Then a third one. By that time the government will have taken some steps to counter your program. Then you will have to address this government action. I don't know what will happen. Somebody might get arrested. Whatever will happen you have to continue if you want to be successful. To dissolve a growing dictatorship is no easy task. If nothing is done America will cease to exist as it was known up to now. And the people will bear the responsibility because the people are

ultimately responsible for the actions of their government. Americans do not realize yet how precarious their situation is.

Now one might argue that it would be advisable to wait till Ron is president. Remember what happened to Kennedy? If the powers behind the scenes, the people who really pull the strings, decide that Ron has to go he will get murdered. That's the sad truth. What will or can they do when millions of people start to expose the crooks in government? Do you think that any of the flunkies in government will be willing to listen to the string pullers? I am sure they will not. This is the situation that has to be created. Government has to become afraid of the people again. That's when a country is healthy. That's when things are going the way they ought to run. But that only happens when people fulfill their responsibilities. Now keep in mind that not everyone will participate. But not everyone needs to participate. History has shown that with any major change only about 3% of the people take part. I believe that

if you can mobilize 100000 people and up you have it made.

There might be a lot of resistance to this program because it is exposing people and their CRIMINAL actions. Most people do not like to do this. There we have to realize that criminals cannot be dealt with in any other manner. They do not understand any other language.

Now I have to make you aware of a new bill about before Congress, I believe, and it is H.R. 1955. You can google it

One more thing, about myself. If you have googled my name you might be under the impression that I am a radical or something like this. Don't forget that the corporate media has the great ability of slanting the truth, dispense half truth or half the story in such a way that the story is totally different than what it really is. Corporate media represents the interests of the government. As you well know, when you are on the opposite side of government you can be sure to be smeared, attacked, vilified, etc. I had a death threat uttered against me by two police officers a few years back. That didn't go anywhere because I made this public on flyers. There is always a way to counteract ANY government threats.

This is a broad outline of my program I followed for many years with great success.

It is up to the American people if they REALLY want to put and end to the criminal government actions against them. I would be more than willing to help you in any way I can.

Fred Kyburz

On 09.01.2008, at 16:44, majestichealth wrote:

[Guest guest]

Hi there I think that the most important people to work with us now are the DOCTORS...yes I have been there...done that...the difference now is that the younger docs know that the meds are not working...and can be educated...they are starting to HEAR us...we need to get to them first...I know I was just there tonight..All the NIC tests on the product for this woman with 2 stage 4 cancers breast, lung, & brain...some tumors are 3cm) was presented to her Oncologist by the patient..She said the National Cancer Insitute did studies on this product which is all natural...will he condone her taking it the day she starts radiation...I spoke with him, not attacking, I wanted to put him in contact with the scientist and gave him some

valuable info that a major cancer center in Alabama who had done tests on over 6,000 patients in the past two years were going to put this product in as their major cancer treatment...does that say allot???????? I also told her doc to see the NIC results...he told me that this product would cause her more problems with her breats cancer but when I asked him if he knew of Haelan951...he never heard of it,...The patient is trying to make a good decision when he said he did not want her on it...People, she is making her own decision tonight after three treatments of radiation and forty tumors in her brain which were not there two weeks ago..I gave up tonight and let it go...I cannot hate...I must go on...this Doc said :Dr. Lang I am sorry but I am going to a concert with my family!!!! So tonight I must go on and hope for more education...Dr. Debra Lang

Re: [no-forced-vaccinat ion] Outline of Action Plan

I am back. Now let me try to put all this in as short an email as possible. There will be many questions about it. What I am trying to do is to give a rough outline first.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with inherent and inalienable rights; that among these, are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness; that to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed; that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness." --Declaration of Independence as originally written by Jefferson, 1776. ME 1:29, Papers 1:315

The above paragraph illustrates that people have the power and the right to change a destructive government. The federal government of the USA has become destructive to the American people as well as to people outside America. The American people have the right and the duty to change such a destructive government as they are ultimately responsible for the actions of their government. We also have to remember that every right has a duty attached to it. In other words, people are responsible.

There are many instances in which the federal government is violating people's rights and freedoms which are:

the freedoms of speech, press, and religion; the well-regulated militia's right to keep and bear arms; the freedom of assembly; the freedom to petition; and the rights to be free of unreasonable search and seizure; cruel and unusual punishment; and compelled self-incrimination.

I don't know where to place the forced vaccination but it evidently is not a right of the government to impose forced medications of any kind. Governments will force the vaccinations on people as long as the pressure from the people is not strong enough to make the government abandon this tactic.

How can this be done? How can government be forced to change this program?

Let's ask how the government gets away with forced vaccinations. What are their most successful weapons the government is using against the people? Aren't they fear? Government threatens people with imprisonment - people fear imprisonment. Government threatens people with intimidation - people fear being intimidated by police, the courts, law suits, etc. Government is playing on human emotions.

Now we have to realize that police officers, judges, lawyers, senators, government employees are also people. So are the officers with the SWAT team, the ambulance attendants, doctors, nurses, FDA employees, etc. They have the same emotions and uncertainties as everyone else. They also fear. And, they know when they do wrong.

My program was based on these specifics.

I had certain steps I followed every time I did a flyer campaign. They are as follows:

- Let people involved know beforehand what you have in mind IF THEY CONTINUE WITH THEIR UNACCEPTABLE ACTIONS, in this case forced vaccinations.

- Give the people involved a specified time to respond.

- Ask people involved how they want to change their program or actions, or, how they intend to rectify the damage done.

It is very important to give the people enough time to respond and to warn them beforehand of what they can expect if they continue with their unacceptable actions.

If the people do not respond then go ahead within the outlined time limit and follow the specified actions without delay.

What I would envision in the forced vaccination case is as follows:

Get in touch with all the medical professionals you know are against forced vaccinations. Outline to them your ideas. Ask them to get in touch with their clients that are against forced vaccinations and people that have suffered from vaccinations. Get as many people involved as possible. Get them on a mailing list. Start an education campaign. Get them involved. Let them study the different vaccination websites - that is web sites for and against vaccinations. They will have to be familiar with both so that they can understand where the vaccination story is false, where they lie started. Let them know that Pasteur recanted on his death bed.

Once you have enough people interested in participating there is one more part they have to understand, and that is the psychological aspect of this program. How do people react to exposure. Why does this program has to be executed in this manner. Why it will not work any other way. The flyers have to be written and have to be distributed by the people involved or by a professional delivery company. It is most successful if people distribute the flyers themselves because they are now involved, they have a stake in it. The flyers have to be written in a way that leaves no doubt as to what forced vaccination is and in general what vaccinations are and the purpose they are serving. In my opinion, and what I have studied and read about it, it has ONLY ONE PURPOSE AND THAT IS POPULATION CONTROL. And there are a number of examples which prove that this is so. All this has to get on the flyers and people in positions who

advocate forced vaccinations have to be made aware of this. They have to be clear without a shadow of a doubt what awaits them if they continue with their program - they are following a program which results in premeditated murder.

Let's assume that the people responsible for the forced vaccinations will not believe you and continue with their methods, which I doubt if the preparatory steps are done right, then you will have to write the flyers. It will not be one flyer, it will not be two flyers, there might be 20 or 30 or more flyers on the same case. You start with one flyer. A few days later the second flyer will be distributed with more information about vaccination. Then a third one. By that time the government will have taken some steps to counter your program. Then you will have to address this government action. I don't know what will happen. Somebody might get arrested. Whatever will happen you have to continue if you want to be successful. To dissolve a growing dictatorship is no easy task. If nothing is done America will cease to exist as it was known up to now. And the people will bear the responsibility because the people are

ultimately responsible for the actions of their government. Americans do not realize yet how precarious their situation is.

Now one might argue that it would be advisable to wait till Ron is president. Remember what happened to Kennedy? If the powers behind the scenes, the people who really pull the strings, decide that Ron has to go he will get murdered. That's the sad truth. What will or can they do when millions of people start to expose the crooks in government? Do you think that any of the flunkies in government will be willing to listen to the string pullers? I am sure they will not. This is the situation that has to be created. Government has to become afraid of the people again. That's when a country is healthy. That's when things are going the way they ought to run. But that only happens when people fulfill their responsibilities. Now keep in mind that not everyone will participate. But not everyone needs to participate. History has shown that with any major change only about 3% of the people take part. I believe that

if you can mobilize 100000 people and up you have it made.

There might be a lot of resistance to this program because it is exposing people and their CRIMINAL actions. Most people do not like to do this. There we have to realize that criminals cannot be dealt with in any other manner. They do not understand any other language.

Now I have to make you aware of a new bill about before Congress, I believe, and it is H.R. 1955. You can google it

One more thing, about myself. If you have googled my name you might be under the impression that I am a radical or something like this. Don't forget that the corporate media has the great ability of slanting the truth, dispense half truth or half the story in such a way that the story is totally different than what it really is. Corporate media represents the interests of the government. As you well know, when you are on the opposite side of government you can be sure to be smeared, attacked, vilified, etc. I had a death threat uttered against me by two police officers a few years back. That didn't go anywhere because I made this public on flyers. There is always a way to counteract ANY government threats.

This is a broad outline of my program I followed for many years with great success.

It is up to the American people if they REALLY want to put and end to the criminal government actions against them. I would be more than willing to help you in any way I can.

Fred Kyburz

On 09.01.2008, at 16:44, majestichealth wrote:

[Guest guest]

Hi there I think that the most important people to work with us now are the DOCTORS...yes I have been there...done that...the difference now is that the younger docs know that the meds are not working...and can be educated...they are starting to HEAR us...we need to get to them first...I know I was just there tonight..All the NIC tests on the product for this woman with 2 stage 4 cancers breast, lung, & brain...some tumors are 3cm) was presented to her Oncologist by the patient..She said the National Cancer Insitute did studies on this product which is all natural...will he condone her taking it the day she starts radiation...I spoke with him, not attacking, I wanted to put him in contact with the scientist and gave him some

valuable info that a major cancer center in Alabama who had done tests on over 6,000 patients in the past two years were going to put this product in as their major cancer treatment...does that say allot???????? I also told her doc to see the NIC results...he told me that this product would cause her more problems with her breats cancer but when I asked him if he knew of Haelan951...he never heard of it,...The patient is trying to make a good decision when he said he did not want her on it...People, she is making her own decision tonight after three treatments of radiation and forty tumors in her brain which were not there two weeks ago..I gave up tonight and let it go...I cannot hate...I must go on...this Doc said :Dr. Lang I am sorry but I am going to a concert with my family!!!! So tonight I must go on and hope for more education...Dr. Debra Lang

Re: [no-forced-vaccinat ion] Outline of Action Plan

I am back. Now let me try to put all this in as short an email as possible. There will be many questions about it. What I am trying to do is to give a rough outline first.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with inherent and inalienable rights; that among these, are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness; that to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed; that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness." --Declaration of Independence as originally written by Jefferson, 1776. ME 1:29, Papers 1:315

The above paragraph illustrates that people have the power and the right to change a destructive government. The federal government of the USA has become destructive to the American people as well as to people outside America. The American people have the right and the duty to change such a destructive government as they are ultimately responsible for the actions of their government. We also have to remember that every right has a duty attached to it. In other words, people are responsible.

There are many instances in which the federal government is violating people's rights and freedoms which are:

the freedoms of speech, press, and religion; the well-regulated militia's right to keep and bear arms; the freedom of assembly; the freedom to petition; and the rights to be free of unreasonable search and seizure; cruel and unusual punishment; and compelled self-incrimination.

I don't know where to place the forced vaccination but it evidently is not a right of the government to impose forced medications of any kind. Governments will force the vaccinations on people as long as the pressure from the people is not strong enough to make the government abandon this tactic.

How can this be done? How can government be forced to change this program?

Let's ask how the government gets away with forced vaccinations. What are their most successful weapons the government is using against the people? Aren't they fear? Government threatens people with imprisonment - people fear imprisonment. Government threatens people with intimidation - people fear being intimidated by police, the courts, law suits, etc. Government is playing on human emotions.

Now we have to realize that police officers, judges, lawyers, senators, government employees are also people. So are the officers with the SWAT team, the ambulance attendants, doctors, nurses, FDA employees, etc. They have the same emotions and uncertainties as everyone else. They also fear. And, they know when they do wrong.

My program was based on these specifics.

I had certain steps I followed every time I did a flyer campaign. They are as follows:

- Let people involved know beforehand what you have in mind IF THEY CONTINUE WITH THEIR UNACCEPTABLE ACTIONS, in this case forced vaccinations.

- Give the people involved a specified time to respond.

- Ask people involved how they want to change their program or actions, or, how they intend to rectify the damage done.

It is very important to give the people enough time to respond and to warn them beforehand of what they can expect if they continue with their unacceptable actions.

If the people do not respond then go ahead within the outlined time limit and follow the specified actions without delay.

What I would envision in the forced vaccination case is as follows:

Get in touch with all the medical professionals you know are against forced vaccinations. Outline to them your ideas. Ask them to get in touch with their clients that are against forced vaccinations and people that have suffered from vaccinations. Get as many people involved as possible. Get them on a mailing list. Start an education campaign. Get them involved. Let them study the different vaccination websites - that is web sites for and against vaccinations. They will have to be familiar with both so that they can understand where the vaccination story is false, where they lie started. Let them know that Pasteur recanted on his death bed.

Once you have enough people interested in participating there is one more part they have to understand, and that is the psychological aspect of this program. How do people react to exposure. Why does this program has to be executed in this manner. Why it will not work any other way. The flyers have to be written and have to be distributed by the people involved or by a professional delivery company. It is most successful if people distribute the flyers themselves because they are now involved, they have a stake in it. The flyers have to be written in a way that leaves no doubt as to what forced vaccination is and in general what vaccinations are and the purpose they are serving. In my opinion, and what I have studied and read about it, it has ONLY ONE PURPOSE AND THAT IS POPULATION CONTROL. And there are a number of examples which prove that this is so. All this has to get on the flyers and people in positions who

advocate forced vaccinations have to be made aware of this. They have to be clear without a shadow of a doubt what awaits them if they continue with their program - they are following a program which results in premeditated murder.

Let's assume that the people responsible for the forced vaccinations will not believe you and continue with their methods, which I doubt if the preparatory steps are done right, then you will have to write the flyers. It will not be one flyer, it will not be two flyers, there might be 20 or 30 or more flyers on the same case. You start with one flyer. A few days later the second flyer will be distributed with more information about vaccination. Then a third one. By that time the government will have taken some steps to counter your program. Then you will have to address this government action. I don't know what will happen. Somebody might get arrested. Whatever will happen you have to continue if you want to be successful. To dissolve a growing dictatorship is no easy task. If nothing is done America will cease to exist as it was known up to now. And the people will bear the responsibility because the people are

ultimately responsible for the actions of their government. Americans do not realize yet how precarious their situation is.

Now one might argue that it would be advisable to wait till Ron is president. Remember what happened to Kennedy? If the powers behind the scenes, the people who really pull the strings, decide that Ron has to go he will get murdered. That's the sad truth. What will or can they do when millions of people start to expose the crooks in government? Do you think that any of the flunkies in government will be willing to listen to the string pullers? I am sure they will not. This is the situation that has to be created. Government has to become afraid of the people again. That's when a country is healthy. That's when things are going the way they ought to run. But that only happens when people fulfill their responsibilities. Now keep in mind that not everyone will participate. But not everyone needs to participate. History has shown that with any major change only about 3% of the people take part. I believe that

if you can mobilize 100000 people and up you have it made.

There might be a lot of resistance to this program because it is exposing people and their CRIMINAL actions. Most people do not like to do this. There we have to realize that criminals cannot be dealt with in any other manner. They do not understand any other language.

Now I have to make you aware of a new bill about before Congress, I believe, and it is H.R. 1955. You can google it

One more thing, about myself. If you have googled my name you might be under the impression that I am a radical or something like this. Don't forget that the corporate media has the great ability of slanting the truth, dispense half truth or half the story in such a way that the story is totally different than what it really is. Corporate media represents the interests of the government. As you well know, when you are on the opposite side of government you can be sure to be smeared, attacked, vilified, etc. I had a death threat uttered against me by two police officers a few years back. That didn't go anywhere because I made this public on flyers. There is always a way to counteract ANY government threats.

This is a broad outline of my program I followed for many years with great success.

It is up to the American people if they REALLY want to put and end to the criminal government actions against them. I would be more than willing to help you in any way I can.

Fred Kyburz

On 09.01.2008, at 16:44, majestichealth wrote:

[Guest guest]

The criminally insane residents of the White House and their henchmen should have been impeached a long time ago.

Germany won't stand for that nonsense initiated by Great Britain.

http://www.physorg.com/news118328192.html

Ingrid Blank

..I am just concerned that they will try to shut down our communication here...so why don't we all try to get more information on each of us like our personal email address ...what do you think...they are liable to do anything....Dr. Debbie

[Guest guest]

The criminally insane residents of the White House and their henchmen should have been impeached a long time ago.

Germany won't stand for that nonsense initiated by Great Britain.

http://www.physorg.com/news118328192.html

Ingrid Blank

..I am just concerned that they will try to shut down our communication here...so why don't we all try to get more information on each of us like our personal email address ...what do you think...they are liable to do anything....Dr. Debbie

[Guest guest]

The criminally insane residents of the White House and their henchmen should have been impeached a long time ago.

Germany won't stand for that nonsense initiated by Great Britain.

http://www.physorg.com/news118328192.html

Ingrid Blank

..I am just concerned that they will try to shut down our communication here...so why don't we all try to get more information on each of us like our personal email address ...what do you think...they are liable to do anything....Dr. Debbie

[Guest guest]

The criminally insane residents of the White House and their henchmen should have been impeached a long time ago.

Germany won't stand for that nonsense initiated by Great Britain.

http://www.physorg.com/news118328192.html

Ingrid Blank

..I am just concerned that they will try to shut down our communication here...so why don't we all try to get more information on each of us like our personal email address ...what do you think...they are liable to do anything....Dr. Debbie

[Guest guest]

On 10.01.2008, at 20:06, wrote:Fred, you are awesome!!  A true kindred spirit.  I know there are many others out there who need to come forward and answer the call to stand up for their rights.  'Stand for something,or fall for anything' is another of my favorite quotes.  What you have said is so true and those in 'power' or so they think, are only using fear as that is the only tactic they're familiarwith.  However, we need to arm ourselves w/facts and a steadfast resolve to continue exposing those who speak lies.  A man's reputation is all he has and people in bureaucracies hate to have their egos trampled on.  I relish exposing these charlatansfor what they are and the more that people own their power and go out on a limb andstate the truth, then the tide will turn and they will respect our voices, ultimately.  I don't want them to fear us necessarily, but if that is what it takes, so be it. & n bsp;  Trudeau's example pointed out in a former e-mail was right on the money.  Canyou imagine a court scene where thousands of letters are literally brought in to supportthe defendant?  What a powerful visualization.  One  important fact has to be taken into consideration here - had the good fortune to be in front of a 'good' judge.  Most judges are paid for, and do the bidding of, the multinational corporations. For those who haven't seen it yet, andthose who have, watch 'The Secret'.  I haven't seen the 'Secret' myself.  I realize it's been out awhile, but the messagesput forth are powerful and the approaches discussed are ageless and they do work,believe me.  In our Walmart battle, we all collectively and individually visualized Walmartwalking away from the negotations table.  You used here a most powerful principle of life.  They ultimately gave up as they realized wewere a force to be reckoned with.  We weren't a huge community, but we had a voiceand we were not afraid to use it.  We played hardball and wore them down.  No ifs, andsor butts.  There was absolutely NO WAY, they were going to come into our neighborhood.  This is the determination I talked about previously.  The number of people involved ina project is not as important as the conviction of the people who participate in the project.  Where the number becomes important is when people get arrested and need the support of their fellow crusaders.We had 'support your local retailers day', where people were encouraged to shop at thelocal shops which displayed a 'Stop Elitch Walmart' sign in their window and a list of theseretailers was on our webpage.  We also had a 'call Walmart day' where we flooded theirphonelines and it was the first time ever their lines were totally busy.  We had cellphone#'s of the execs and would call them daily to let them know 'DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUTCOMING INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD'.  After awhile, they realized we were too hostileand organized to deal with and they left w/their tails between their legs.  You obviously had a very well thought out program.  I am proud of you!  If there would be one individual like you in every town of the United States forced vaccinations and its supporters could start counting their days.  Talk aboutcelebration!  To this day, I can walk our streets and run into people I now considerfriends who joined us in that effort.  I envision the same happening here in our effortsto inform and educate everyone around us about how vaccines are dangerous, howeveryone has free choice, and to question those in charge.  Anything is possible, andI will be here to witness the drug cartel breaking up.  I realize it's a huge goal, but it's akinto a vs. Goliath battle, which can be won.  Fred, your steps are in lockstep w/mine and I encourage others to take this info and spreadit as far as possible.  I have a growing e-mail base of friends and colleagues and I regularlyput out info from the NVIC and other websites which are relevant to our cause.  Thank you to everyone involved in this effort.  Keep the faith and everyday devote time todoing your best to spread the word.  This is great advice!  I have no doubt that you will be successful - for your children's and grandchildren's sake.  Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.

[Guest guest]

On 10.01.2008, at 20:06, wrote:Fred, you are awesome!!  A true kindred spirit.  I know there are many others out there who need to come forward and answer the call to stand up for their rights.  'Stand for something,or fall for anything' is another of my favorite quotes.  What you have said is so true and those in 'power' or so they think, are only using fear as that is the only tactic they're familiarwith.  However, we need to arm ourselves w/facts and a steadfast resolve to continue exposing those who speak lies.  A man's reputation is all he has and people in bureaucracies hate to have their egos trampled on.  I relish exposing these charlatansfor what they are and the more that people own their power and go out on a limb andstate the truth, then the tide will turn and they will respect our voices, ultimately.  I don't want them to fear us necessarily, but if that is what it takes, so be it. & n bsp;  Trudeau's example pointed out in a former e-mail was right on the money.  Canyou imagine a court scene where thousands of letters are literally brought in to supportthe defendant?  What a powerful visualization.  One  important fact has to be taken into consideration here - had the good fortune to be in front of a 'good' judge.  Most judges are paid for, and do the bidding of, the multinational corporations. For those who haven't seen it yet, andthose who have, watch 'The Secret'.  I haven't seen the 'Secret' myself.  I realize it's been out awhile, but the messagesput forth are powerful and the approaches discussed are ageless and they do work,believe me.  In our Walmart battle, we all collectively and individually visualized Walmartwalking away from the negotations table.  You used here a most powerful principle of life.  They ultimately gave up as they realized wewere a force to be reckoned with.  We weren't a huge community, but we had a voiceand we were not afraid to use it.  We played hardball and wore them down.  No ifs, andsor butts.  There was absolutely NO WAY, they were going to come into our neighborhood.  This is the determination I talked about previously.  The number of people involved ina project is not as important as the conviction of the people who participate in the project.  Where the number becomes important is when people get arrested and need the support of their fellow crusaders.We had 'support your local retailers day', where people were encouraged to shop at thelocal shops which displayed a 'Stop Elitch Walmart' sign in their window and a list of theseretailers was on our webpage.  We also had a 'call Walmart day' where we flooded theirphonelines and it was the first time ever their lines were totally busy.  We had cellphone#'s of the execs and would call them daily to let them know 'DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUTCOMING INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD'.  After awhile, they realized we were too hostileand organized to deal with and they left w/their tails between their legs.  You obviously had a very well thought out program.  I am proud of you!  If there would be one individual like you in every town of the United States forced vaccinations and its supporters could start counting their days.  Talk aboutcelebration!  To this day, I can walk our streets and run into people I now considerfriends who joined us in that effort.  I envision the same happening here in our effortsto inform and educate everyone around us about how vaccines are dangerous, howeveryone has free choice, and to question those in charge.  Anything is possible, andI will be here to witness the drug cartel breaking up.  I realize it's a huge goal, but it's akinto a vs. Goliath battle, which can be won.  Fred, your steps are in lockstep w/mine and I encourage others to take this info and spreadit as far as possible.  I have a growing e-mail base of friends and colleagues and I regularlyput out info from the NVIC and other websites which are relevant to our cause.  Thank you to everyone involved in this effort.  Keep the faith and everyday devote time todoing your best to spread the word.  This is great advice!  I have no doubt that you will be successful - for your children's and grandchildren's sake.  Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.

[Guest guest]

On 10.01.2008, at 20:06, wrote:Fred, you are awesome!!  A true kindred spirit.  I know there are many others out there who need to come forward and answer the call to stand up for their rights.  'Stand for something,or fall for anything' is another of my favorite quotes.  What you have said is so true and those in 'power' or so they think, are only using fear as that is the only tactic they're familiarwith.  However, we need to arm ourselves w/facts and a steadfast resolve to continue exposing those who speak lies.  A man's reputation is all he has and people in bureaucracies hate to have their egos trampled on.  I relish exposing these charlatansfor what they are and the more that people own their power and go out on a limb andstate the truth, then the tide will turn and they will respect our voices, ultimately.  I don't want them to fear us necessarily, but if that is what it takes, so be it. & n bsp;  Trudeau's example pointed out in a former e-mail was right on the money.  Canyou imagine a court scene where thousands of letters are literally brought in to supportthe defendant?  What a powerful visualization.  One  important fact has to be taken into consideration here - had the good fortune to be in front of a 'good' judge.  Most judges are paid for, and do the bidding of, the multinational corporations. For those who haven't seen it yet, andthose who have, watch 'The Secret'.  I haven't seen the 'Secret' myself.  I realize it's been out awhile, but the messagesput forth are powerful and the approaches discussed are ageless and they do work,believe me.  In our Walmart battle, we all collectively and individually visualized Walmartwalking away from the negotations table.  You used here a most powerful principle of life.  They ultimately gave up as they realized wewere a force to be reckoned with.  We weren't a huge community, but we had a voiceand we were not afraid to use it.  We played hardball and wore them down.  No ifs, andsor butts.  There was absolutely NO WAY, they were going to come into our neighborhood.  This is the determination I talked about previously.  The number of people involved ina project is not as important as the conviction of the people who participate in the project.  Where the number becomes important is when people get arrested and need the support of their fellow crusaders.We had 'support your local retailers day', where people were encouraged to shop at thelocal shops which displayed a 'Stop Elitch Walmart' sign in their window and a list of theseretailers was on our webpage.  We also had a 'call Walmart day' where we flooded theirphonelines and it was the first time ever their lines were totally busy.  We had cellphone#'s of the execs and would call them daily to let them know 'DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUTCOMING INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD'.  After awhile, they realized we were too hostileand organized to deal with and they left w/their tails between their legs.  You obviously had a very well thought out program.  I am proud of you!  If there would be one individual like you in every town of the United States forced vaccinations and its supporters could start counting their days.  Talk aboutcelebration!  To this day, I can walk our streets and run into people I now considerfriends who joined us in that effort.  I envision the same happening here in our effortsto inform and educate everyone around us about how vaccines are dangerous, howeveryone has free choice, and to question those in charge.  Anything is possible, andI will be here to witness the drug cartel breaking up.  I realize it's a huge goal, but it's akinto a vs. Goliath battle, which can be won.  Fred, your steps are in lockstep w/mine and I encourage others to take this info and spreadit as far as possible.  I have a growing e-mail base of friends and colleagues and I regularlyput out info from the NVIC and other websites which are relevant to our cause.  Thank you to everyone involved in this effort.  Keep the faith and everyday devote time todoing your best to spread the word.  This is great advice!  I have no doubt that you will be successful - for your children's and grandchildren's sake.  Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.

[Guest guest]

On 10.01.2008, at 20:06, wrote:Fred, you are awesome!!  A true kindred spirit.  I know there are many others out there who need to come forward and answer the call to stand up for their rights.  'Stand for something,or fall for anything' is another of my favorite quotes.  What you have said is so true and those in 'power' or so they think, are only using fear as that is the only tactic they're familiarwith.  However, we need to arm ourselves w/facts and a steadfast resolve to continue exposing those who speak lies.  A man's reputation is all he has and people in bureaucracies hate to have their egos trampled on.  I relish exposing these charlatansfor what they are and the more that people own their power and go out on a limb andstate the truth, then the tide will turn and they will respect our voices, ultimately.  I don't want them to fear us necessarily, but if that is what it takes, so be it. & n bsp;  Trudeau's example pointed out in a former e-mail was right on the money.  Canyou imagine a court scene where thousands of letters are literally brought in to supportthe defendant?  What a powerful visualization.  One  important fact has to be taken into consideration here - had the good fortune to be in front of a 'good' judge.  Most judges are paid for, and do the bidding of, the multinational corporations. For those who haven't seen it yet, andthose who have, watch 'The Secret'.  I haven't seen the 'Secret' myself.  I realize it's been out awhile, but the messagesput forth are powerful and the approaches discussed are ageless and they do work,believe me.  In our Walmart battle, we all collectively and individually visualized Walmartwalking away from the negotations table.  You used here a most powerful principle of life.  They ultimately gave up as they realized wewere a force to be reckoned with.  We weren't a huge community, but we had a voiceand we were not afraid to use it.  We played hardball and wore them down.  No ifs, andsor butts.  There was absolutely NO WAY, they were going to come into our neighborhood.  This is the determination I talked about previously.  The number of people involved ina project is not as important as the conviction of the people who participate in the project.  Where the number becomes important is when people get arrested and need the support of their fellow crusaders.We had 'support your local retailers day', where people were encouraged to shop at thelocal shops which displayed a 'Stop Elitch Walmart' sign in their window and a list of theseretailers was on our webpage.  We also had a 'call Walmart day' where we flooded theirphonelines and it was the first time ever their lines were totally busy.  We had cellphone#'s of the execs and would call them daily to let them know 'DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUTCOMING INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD'.  After awhile, they realized we were too hostileand organized to deal with and they left w/their tails between their legs.  You obviously had a very well thought out program.  I am proud of you!  If there would be one individual like you in every town of the United States forced vaccinations and its supporters could start counting their days.  Talk aboutcelebration!  To this day, I can walk our streets and run into people I now considerfriends who joined us in that effort.  I envision the same happening here in our effortsto inform and educate everyone around us about how vaccines are dangerous, howeveryone has free choice, and to question those in charge.  Anything is possible, andI will be here to witness the drug cartel breaking up.  I realize it's a huge goal, but it's akinto a vs. Goliath battle, which can be won.  Fred, your steps are in lockstep w/mine and I encourage others to take this info and spreadit as far as possible.  I have a growing e-mail base of friends and colleagues and I regularlyput out info from the NVIC and other websites which are relevant to our cause.  Thank you to everyone involved in this effort.  Keep the faith and everyday devote time todoing your best to spread the word.  This is great advice!  I have no doubt that you will be successful - for your children's and grandchildren's sake.  Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.

[Guest guest]

On 11.01.2008, at 00:58, Lynda Hardin-Poston wrote:The one major thing that everyone must remember iswhen you fight city hall, city hall doesn't fight fair. City Hall will have to start fighting fair when we expose the wrong with TRUTH.  They have no choice.  This is what people experienced when they have engaged in this method as experienced.  It is an unbelievable and overwhelming experience and realization.   Theyhave powers to cause us harm, if they want. Don't let them!  They have only the power we give them or let them have.  You foundthat out yourself first hand. True.  But they realized soon enough that they are on the shorter end of the stick.  Freedom has a price.  People today think that the government  should preserve our rights and freedoms.  In theory this is correct.  In practice the picture is totally different.  Most of the world knows the dire straights Americans are in.  Most Americans haven't got a clue.  They will wake up one morning and find themselves in the same situation the Germans found themselves in a few decades ago.  Then it's too late to do anything.  Now there is still some faint hope to change the situation.  I would rather get 'hurt' right now than wait till all the possibilities of a protest are taken away.  America is right now at this juncture.  You were strong and smartenough to know what to do and how to do it.  All aren'tthat lucky.  Anyone will know what to do if they want to know and if they stand up for something that is helpful to anyone.  These are the hidden powers within every individual that come to the fore once the process is started.   found this out also, not from a book, not in theory, but during practical application, an application that was based on an honest concern for the community she lives in. The point people will have to be doctors, lawyers,people in government, like Ron , who are willingto stand up for the cause, people that if somethinghappened to them, it would be noticed and wouldbe picked up by the press. When the press picks something up they put their slant on it which is the government slant.  I have experienced that also when the press picked up my story.  This story put out by the government had nothing to do with truth.  It was twisted and turned.  We were accused of a terrorist act when there was apparently a bomb found in the Kamloops court house the trial took place that day.  I put the story on the internet on my web site the government shut down three times! and explained the fact and proven that it was the government.   That would bring issuesinto the light and that is what they DON'T want. Afew marchers or "trouble makers" put in jail reallydon't make much of a ripple other than for peopleto think they are "loons" or "rabid."  Not quite true.  It all depends how the "loons" or "trouble makers" react to the accusations.  Lots of hay can be made with such accusations.  I always welcomed stories like this in news papers.  When we delivered flyers in Revelstoke British Columbia the local news paper took it upon itself to print a story about us which was totally untrue.  I wrote a flyer about it and tore the contents of that news paper article to shreds.  Because of it we got an incredible amount of support from the local community.  By the way Revelstoke is about 6 hours drive from Calgary where I lived a the time.  The first time we distributed flyers there the police were on us within 20 minutes, the second time within about 5 minutes and the third time they hid in their police station, closed the blinds and turned off the lights!  You have to experience these situations in order to appreciate them.  We distributed flyers there because a friend of ours was arrested in Calgary without an arrest warrant and under false charges.  Eventually they had to let him go.  We put an incredible amount of pressure on every official involved in the case as well as the entire government of British Columbia and Alberta as well as the federal justice minister.  This man most likely would not have come out of the prison system if we would not have taken these actions. Perception by the public is EVERYTHING. Howany movement is perceived by the masses reallydetermines how many people will join the movement.  As I mentioned previously it doesn't really matter how many people are involved.  But it surely matters how the people involved are committed to the cause.   That is why you must make sure it never seems tobe a bunch of maniacs who go overboard in theattempt to get attention for their cause (like PETA).  Everyone is a crazy in the eyes of the government and the people who have no idea about reality who stands for truth.  This was the case for thousands of years.  Remember the fellow who lived 2000 years ago and was put on the cross because he attacked the money changers in the temple.  Today the situation is still the same.  You tell the same truth today and you are looked at as a lunatic.  The same people are still in control.  What you really need is a good PR person, someonewho knows how to prepare and present a campaign.A political strategist would be great for a project likethis. If anyone has any contacts with such a personwho might be interested, maybe it would behooveyou to mention it. <grin>  You are trying to do the very thing that brings every honest attempt to change to its knees.  We have to grow up and take responsibility.  We have to realize that nobody will do the job I am supposed to do.  Some people will tell you that they will do the job you are supposed to do.  What will happen is that they will do the job to their advantage.  Just like the government has done.  The government told us we shouldn't worry, we should watch TV and let them do what is best for us.  You know the rest of the story.     Fred, I think you are right, this is just ONE part ofa much larger picture, that picture being the factthat the government is too involved in our lives.We are loosing, more and more, our rights to"Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness." Itis time we took back our country.  And it's only us that can do that job, nobody else.  The government will put any possible obstruction in our path because they hate to loose control.    Blessings,Dr. Lynda Hardin-Poston5109 Stotzer Pwy.College Station, TX 77845(979)260-1202Http://www.doctorlynda.comHealth, God's Way Re: Outline of Action PlanI am back. Now let me try to put all this in as short an email as possible. There will be many questions about it. What I am trying to do is to give a rough outline first."We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with inherent and inalienable rights; that among these, are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness; that to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed; that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness." --Declaration of Independence as originally written by Jefferson, 1776. ME 1:29, Papers 1:315The above paragraph illustrates that people have the power and the right to change a destructive government. The federal government of the USA has become destructive to the American people as well as to people outside America. The American people have the right and the duty to change such a destructive government as they are ultimately responsible for the actions of their government. We also have to remember that every right has a duty attached to it. In other words, people are responsible.There are many instances in which the federal government is violating people's rights and freedoms which are:the freedoms of speech, press, and religion; the well-regulated militia's right to keep and bear arms; the freedom of assembly; the freedom to petition; and the rights to be free of unreasonable search and seizure; cruel and unusual punishment; and compelled self-incrimination.I don't know where to place the forced vaccination but it evidently is not a right of the government to impose forced medications of any kind. Governments will force the vaccinations on people as long as the pressure from the people is not strong enough to make the government abandon this tactic.How can this be done? How can government be forced to change this program?Let's ask how the government gets away with forced vaccinations. What are their most successful weapons the government is using against the people? Aren't they fear? Government threatens people with imprisonment - people fear imprisonment. Government threatens people with intimidation - people fear being intimidated by police, the courts, law suits, etc. Government is playing on human emotions.Now we have to realize that police officers, judges, lawyers, senators, government employees are also people. So are the officers with the SWAT team, the ambulance attendants, doctors, nurses, FDA employees, etc. They have the same emotions and uncertainties as everyone else. They also fear. And, they know when they do wrong.My program was based on these specifics.I had certain steps I followed every time I did a flyer campaign. They are as follows:- Let people involved know beforehand what you have in mind IF THEY CONTINUE WITH THEIR UNACCEPTABLE ACTIONS, in this case forced vaccinations.- Give the people involved a specified time to respond.- Ask people involved how they want to change their program or actions, or, how they intend to rectify the damage done.It is very important to give the people enough time to respond and to warn them beforehand of what they can expect if they continue with their unacceptable actions.If the people do not respond then go ahead within the outlined time limit and follow the specified actions without delay.What I would envision in the forced vaccination case is as follows:Get in touch with all the medical professionals you know are against forced vaccinations. Outline to them your ideas. Ask them to get in touch with their clients that are against forced vaccinations and people that have suffered from vaccinations. Get as many people involved as possible. Get them on a mailing list. Start an education campaign. Get them involved. Let them study the different vaccination websites - that is web sites for and against vaccinations. They will have to be familiar with both so that they can understand where the vaccination story is false, where they lie started. Let them know that Pasteur recanted on his death bed.Once you have enough people interested in participating there is one more part they have to understand, and that is the psychological aspect of this program. How do people react to exposure. Why does this program has to be executed in this manner. Why it will not work any other way. The flyers have to be written and have to be distributed by the people involved or by a professional delivery company. It is most successful if people distribute the flyers themselves because they are now involved, they have a stake in it. The flyers have to be written in a way that leaves no doubt as to what forced vaccination is and in general what vaccinations are and the purpose they are serving. In my opinion, and what I have studied and read about it, it has ONLY ONE PURPOSE AND THAT IS POPULATION CONTROL. And there are a number of examples which prove that this is so. All this has to get on the flyers and people in positions who advocate forced vaccinations have to be made aware of this. They have to be clear without a shadow of a doubt what awaits them if they continue with their program - they are following a program which results in premeditated murder.Let's assume that the people responsible for the forced vaccinations will not believe you and continue with their methods, which I doubt if the preparatory steps are done right, then you will have to write the flyers. It will not be one flyer, it will not be two flyers, there might be 20 or 30 or more flyers on the same case. You start with one flyer. A few days later the second flyer will be distributed with more information about vaccination. Then a third one. By that time the government will have taken some steps to counter your program. Then you will have to address this government action. I don't know what will happen. Somebody might get arrested. Whatever will happen you have to continue if you want to be successful. To dissolve a growing dictatorship is no easy task. If nothing is done America will cease to exist as it was known up to now. And the people will bear the responsibility because the people are ultimately responsible for the actions of their government. Americans do not realize yet how precarious their situation is.Now one might argue that it would be advisable to wait till Ron is president. Remember what happened to Kennedy? If the powers behind the scenes, the people who really pull the strings, decide that Ron has to go he will get murdered. That's the sad truth. What will or can they do when millions of people start to expose the crooks in government? Do you think that any of the flunkies in government will be willing to listen to the string pullers? I am sure they will not. This is the situation that has to be created. Government has to become afraid of the people again. That's when a country is healthy. That's when things are going the way they ought to run. But that only happens when people fulfill their responsibilities. Now keep in mind that not everyone will participate. But not everyone needs to participate. History has shown that with any major change only about 3% of the people take part. I believe that if you can mobilize 100000 people and up you have it made.There might be a lot of resistance to this program because it is exposing people and their CRIMINAL actions. Most people do not like to do this. There we have to realize that criminals cannot be dealt with in any other manner. They do not understand any other language.Now I have to make you aware of a new bill about before Congress, I believe, and it is H.R. 1955. You can google itOne more thing, about myself. If you have googled my name you might be under the impression that I am a radical or something like this. Don't forget that the corporate media has the great ability of slanting the truth, dispense half truth or half the story in such a way that the story is totally different than what it really is. Corporate media represents the interests of the government. As you well know, when you are on the opposite side of government you can be sure to be smeared, attacked, vilified, etc. I had a death threat uttered against me by two police officers a few years back. That didn't go anywhere because I made this public on flyers. There is always a way to counteract ANY government threats.This is a broad outline of my program I followed for many years with great success.It is up to the American people if they REALLY want to put and end to the criminal government actions against them. I would be more than willing to help you in any way I can.Fred KyburzOn 09.01.2008, at 16:44, majestichealth  wrote:

[Guest guest]

On 11.01.2008, at 00:58, Lynda Hardin-Poston wrote:The one major thing that everyone must remember iswhen you fight city hall, city hall doesn't fight fair. City Hall will have to start fighting fair when we expose the wrong with TRUTH.  They have no choice.  This is what people experienced when they have engaged in this method as experienced.  It is an unbelievable and overwhelming experience and realization.   Theyhave powers to cause us harm, if they want. Don't let them!  They have only the power we give them or let them have.  You foundthat out yourself first hand. True.  But they realized soon enough that they are on the shorter end of the stick.  Freedom has a price.  People today think that the government  should preserve our rights and freedoms.  In theory this is correct.  In practice the picture is totally different.  Most of the world knows the dire straights Americans are in.  Most Americans haven't got a clue.  They will wake up one morning and find themselves in the same situation the Germans found themselves in a few decades ago.  Then it's too late to do anything.  Now there is still some faint hope to change the situation.  I would rather get 'hurt' right now than wait till all the possibilities of a protest are taken away.  America is right now at this juncture.  You were strong and smartenough to know what to do and how to do it.  All aren'tthat lucky.  Anyone will know what to do if they want to know and if they stand up for something that is helpful to anyone.  These are the hidden powers within every individual that come to the fore once the process is started.   found this out also, not from a book, not in theory, but during practical application, an application that was based on an honest concern for the community she lives in. The point people will have to be doctors, lawyers,people in government, like Ron , who are willingto stand up for the cause, people that if somethinghappened to them, it would be noticed and wouldbe picked up by the press. When the press picks something up they put their slant on it which is the government slant.  I have experienced that also when the press picked up my story.  This story put out by the government had nothing to do with truth.  It was twisted and turned.  We were accused of a terrorist act when there was apparently a bomb found in the Kamloops court house the trial took place that day.  I put the story on the internet on my web site the government shut down three times! and explained the fact and proven that it was the government.   That would bring issuesinto the light and that is what they DON'T want. Afew marchers or "trouble makers" put in jail reallydon't make much of a ripple other than for peopleto think they are "loons" or "rabid."  Not quite true.  It all depends how the "loons" or "trouble makers" react to the accusations.  Lots of hay can be made with such accusations.  I always welcomed stories like this in news papers.  When we delivered flyers in Revelstoke British Columbia the local news paper took it upon itself to print a story about us which was totally untrue.  I wrote a flyer about it and tore the contents of that news paper article to shreds.  Because of it we got an incredible amount of support from the local community.  By the way Revelstoke is about 6 hours drive from Calgary where I lived a the time.  The first time we distributed flyers there the police were on us within 20 minutes, the second time within about 5 minutes and the third time they hid in their police station, closed the blinds and turned off the lights!  You have to experience these situations in order to appreciate them.  We distributed flyers there because a friend of ours was arrested in Calgary without an arrest warrant and under false charges.  Eventually they had to let him go.  We put an incredible amount of pressure on every official involved in the case as well as the entire government of British Columbia and Alberta as well as the federal justice minister.  This man most likely would not have come out of the prison system if we would not have taken these actions. Perception by the public is EVERYTHING. Howany movement is perceived by the masses reallydetermines how many people will join the movement.  As I mentioned previously it doesn't really matter how many people are involved.  But it surely matters how the people involved are committed to the cause.   That is why you must make sure it never seems tobe a bunch of maniacs who go overboard in theattempt to get attention for their cause (like PETA).  Everyone is a crazy in the eyes of the government and the people who have no idea about reality who stands for truth.  This was the case for thousands of years.  Remember the fellow who lived 2000 years ago and was put on the cross because he attacked the money changers in the temple.  Today the situation is still the same.  You tell the same truth today and you are looked at as a lunatic.  The same people are still in control.  What you really need is a good PR person, someonewho knows how to prepare and present a campaign.A political strategist would be great for a project likethis. If anyone has any contacts with such a personwho might be interested, maybe it would behooveyou to mention it. <grin>  You are trying to do the very thing that brings every honest attempt to change to its knees.  We have to grow up and take responsibility.  We have to realize that nobody will do the job I am supposed to do.  Some people will tell you that they will do the job you are supposed to do.  What will happen is that they will do the job to their advantage.  Just like the government has done.  The government told us we shouldn't worry, we should watch TV and let them do what is best for us.  You know the rest of the story.     Fred, I think you are right, this is just ONE part ofa much larger picture, that picture being the factthat the government is too involved in our lives.We are loosing, more and more, our rights to"Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness." Itis time we took back our country.  And it's only us that can do that job, nobody else.  The government will put any possible obstruction in our path because they hate to loose control.    Blessings,Dr. Lynda Hardin-Poston5109 Stotzer Pwy.College Station, TX 77845(979)260-1202Http://www.doctorlynda.comHealth, God's Way Re: Outline of Action PlanI am back. Now let me try to put all this in as short an email as possible. There will be many questions about it. What I am trying to do is to give a rough outline first."We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with inherent and inalienable rights; that among these, are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness; that to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed; that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness." --Declaration of Independence as originally written by Jefferson, 1776. ME 1:29, Papers 1:315The above paragraph illustrates that people have the power and the right to change a destructive government. The federal government of the USA has become destructive to the American people as well as to people outside America. The American people have the right and the duty to change such a destructive government as they are ultimately responsible for the actions of their government. We also have to remember that every right has a duty attached to it. In other words, people are responsible.There are many instances in which the federal government is violating people's rights and freedoms which are:the freedoms of speech, press, and religion; the well-regulated militia's right to keep and bear arms; the freedom of assembly; the freedom to petition; and the rights to be free of unreasonable search and seizure; cruel and unusual punishment; and compelled self-incrimination.I don't know where to place the forced vaccination but it evidently is not a right of the government to impose forced medications of any kind. Governments will force the vaccinations on people as long as the pressure from the people is not strong enough to make the government abandon this tactic.How can this be done? How can government be forced to change this program?Let's ask how the government gets away with forced vaccinations. What are their most successful weapons the government is using against the people? Aren't they fear? Government threatens people with imprisonment - people fear imprisonment. Government threatens people with intimidation - people fear being intimidated by police, the courts, law suits, etc. Government is playing on human emotions.Now we have to realize that police officers, judges, lawyers, senators, government employees are also people. So are the officers with the SWAT team, the ambulance attendants, doctors, nurses, FDA employees, etc. They have the same emotions and uncertainties as everyone else. They also fear. And, they know when they do wrong.My program was based on these specifics.I had certain steps I followed every time I did a flyer campaign. They are as follows:- Let people involved know beforehand what you have in mind IF THEY CONTINUE WITH THEIR UNACCEPTABLE ACTIONS, in this case forced vaccinations.- Give the people involved a specified time to respond.- Ask people involved how they want to change their program or actions, or, how they intend to rectify the damage done.It is very important to give the people enough time to respond and to warn them beforehand of what they can expect if they continue with their unacceptable actions.If the people do not respond then go ahead within the outlined time limit and follow the specified actions without delay.What I would envision in the forced vaccination case is as follows:Get in touch with all the medical professionals you know are against forced vaccinations. Outline to them your ideas. Ask them to get in touch with their clients that are against forced vaccinations and people that have suffered from vaccinations. Get as many people involved as possible. Get them on a mailing list. Start an education campaign. Get them involved. Let them study the different vaccination websites - that is web sites for and against vaccinations. They will have to be familiar with both so that they can understand where the vaccination story is false, where they lie started. Let them know that Pasteur recanted on his death bed.Once you have enough people interested in participating there is one more part they have to understand, and that is the psychological aspect of this program. How do people react to exposure. Why does this program has to be executed in this manner. Why it will not work any other way. The flyers have to be written and have to be distributed by the people involved or by a professional delivery company. It is most successful if people distribute the flyers themselves because they are now involved, they have a stake in it. The flyers have to be written in a way that leaves no doubt as to what forced vaccination is and in general what vaccinations are and the purpose they are serving. In my opinion, and what I have studied and read about it, it has ONLY ONE PURPOSE AND THAT IS POPULATION CONTROL. And there are a number of examples which prove that this is so. All this has to get on the flyers and people in positions who advocate forced vaccinations have to be made aware of this. They have to be clear without a shadow of a doubt what awaits them if they continue with their program - they are following a program which results in premeditated murder.Let's assume that the people responsible for the forced vaccinations will not believe you and continue with their methods, which I doubt if the preparatory steps are done right, then you will have to write the flyers. It will not be one flyer, it will not be two flyers, there might be 20 or 30 or more flyers on the same case. You start with one flyer. A few days later the second flyer will be distributed with more information about vaccination. Then a third one. By that time the government will have taken some steps to counter your program. Then you will have to address this government action. I don't know what will happen. Somebody might get arrested. Whatever will happen you have to continue if you want to be successful. To dissolve a growing dictatorship is no easy task. If nothing is done America will cease to exist as it was known up to now. And the people will bear the responsibility because the people are ultimately responsible for the actions of their government. Americans do not realize yet how precarious their situation is.Now one might argue that it would be advisable to wait till Ron is president. Remember what happened to Kennedy? If the powers behind the scenes, the people who really pull the strings, decide that Ron has to go he will get murdered. That's the sad truth. What will or can they do when millions of people start to expose the crooks in government? Do you think that any of the flunkies in government will be willing to listen to the string pullers? I am sure they will not. This is the situation that has to be created. Government has to become afraid of the people again. That's when a country is healthy. That's when things are going the way they ought to run. But that only happens when people fulfill their responsibilities. Now keep in mind that not everyone will participate. But not everyone needs to participate. History has shown that with any major change only about 3% of the people take part. I believe that if you can mobilize 100000 people and up you have it made.There might be a lot of resistance to this program because it is exposing people and their CRIMINAL actions. Most people do not like to do this. There we have to realize that criminals cannot be dealt with in any other manner. They do not understand any other language.Now I have to make you aware of a new bill about before Congress, I believe, and it is H.R. 1955. You can google itOne more thing, about myself. If you have googled my name you might be under the impression that I am a radical or something like this. Don't forget that the corporate media has the great ability of slanting the truth, dispense half truth or half the story in such a way that the story is totally different than what it really is. Corporate media represents the interests of the government. As you well know, when you are on the opposite side of government you can be sure to be smeared, attacked, vilified, etc. I had a death threat uttered against me by two police officers a few years back. That didn't go anywhere because I made this public on flyers. There is always a way to counteract ANY government threats.This is a broad outline of my program I followed for many years with great success.It is up to the American people if they REALLY want to put and end to the criminal government actions against them. I would be more than willing to help you in any way I can.Fred KyburzOn 09.01.2008, at 16:44, majestichealth  wrote:

[Guest guest]

On 11.01.2008, at 00:58, Lynda Hardin-Poston wrote:The one major thing that everyone must remember iswhen you fight city hall, city hall doesn't fight fair. City Hall will have to start fighting fair when we expose the wrong with TRUTH.  They have no choice.  This is what people experienced when they have engaged in this method as experienced.  It is an unbelievable and overwhelming experience and realization.   Theyhave powers to cause us harm, if they want. Don't let them!  They have only the power we give them or let them have.  You foundthat out yourself first hand. True.  But they realized soon enough that they are on the shorter end of the stick.  Freedom has a price.  People today think that the government  should preserve our rights and freedoms.  In theory this is correct.  In practice the picture is totally different.  Most of the world knows the dire straights Americans are in.  Most Americans haven't got a clue.  They will wake up one morning and find themselves in the same situation the Germans found themselves in a few decades ago.  Then it's too late to do anything.  Now there is still some faint hope to change the situation.  I would rather get 'hurt' right now than wait till all the possibilities of a protest are taken away.  America is right now at this juncture.  You were strong and smartenough to know what to do and how to do it.  All aren'tthat lucky.  Anyone will know what to do if they want to know and if they stand up for something that is helpful to anyone.  These are the hidden powers within every individual that come to the fore once the process is started.   found this out also, not from a book, not in theory, but during practical application, an application that was based on an honest concern for the community she lives in. The point people will have to be doctors, lawyers,people in government, like Ron , who are willingto stand up for the cause, people that if somethinghappened to them, it would be noticed and wouldbe picked up by the press. When the press picks something up they put their slant on it which is the government slant.  I have experienced that also when the press picked up my story.  This story put out by the government had nothing to do with truth.  It was twisted and turned.  We were accused of a terrorist act when there was apparently a bomb found in the Kamloops court house the trial took place that day.  I put the story on the internet on my web site the government shut down three times! and explained the fact and proven that it was the government.   That would bring issuesinto the light and that is what they DON'T want. Afew marchers or "trouble makers" put in jail reallydon't make much of a ripple other than for peopleto think they are "loons" or "rabid."  Not quite true.  It all depends how the "loons" or "trouble makers" react to the accusations.  Lots of hay can be made with such accusations.  I always welcomed stories like this in news papers.  When we delivered flyers in Revelstoke British Columbia the local news paper took it upon itself to print a story about us which was totally untrue.  I wrote a flyer about it and tore the contents of that news paper article to shreds.  Because of it we got an incredible amount of support from the local community.  By the way Revelstoke is about 6 hours drive from Calgary where I lived a the time.  The first time we distributed flyers there the police were on us within 20 minutes, the second time within about 5 minutes and the third time they hid in their police station, closed the blinds and turned off the lights!  You have to experience these situations in order to appreciate them.  We distributed flyers there because a friend of ours was arrested in Calgary without an arrest warrant and under false charges.  Eventually they had to let him go.  We put an incredible amount of pressure on every official involved in the case as well as the entire government of British Columbia and Alberta as well as the federal justice minister.  This man most likely would not have come out of the prison system if we would not have taken these actions. Perception by the public is EVERYTHING. Howany movement is perceived by the masses reallydetermines how many people will join the movement.  As I mentioned previously it doesn't really matter how many people are involved.  But it surely matters how the people involved are committed to the cause.   That is why you must make sure it never seems tobe a bunch of maniacs who go overboard in theattempt to get attention for their cause (like PETA).  Everyone is a crazy in the eyes of the government and the people who have no idea about reality who stands for truth.  This was the case for thousands of years.  Remember the fellow who lived 2000 years ago and was put on the cross because he attacked the money changers in the temple.  Today the situation is still the same.  You tell the same truth today and you are looked at as a lunatic.  The same people are still in control.  What you really need is a good PR person, someonewho knows how to prepare and present a campaign.A political strategist would be great for a project likethis. If anyone has any contacts with such a personwho might be interested, maybe it would behooveyou to mention it. <grin>  You are trying to do the very thing that brings every honest attempt to change to its knees.  We have to grow up and take responsibility.  We have to realize that nobody will do the job I am supposed to do.  Some people will tell you that they will do the job you are supposed to do.  What will happen is that they will do the job to their advantage.  Just like the government has done.  The government told us we shouldn't worry, we should watch TV and let them do what is best for us.  You know the rest of the story.     Fred, I think you are right, this is just ONE part ofa much larger picture, that picture being the factthat the government is too involved in our lives.We are loosing, more and more, our rights to"Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness." Itis time we took back our country.  And it's only us that can do that job, nobody else.  The government will put any possible obstruction in our path because they hate to loose control.    Blessings,Dr. Lynda Hardin-Poston5109 Stotzer Pwy.College Station, TX 77845(979)260-1202Http://www.doctorlynda.comHealth, God's Way Re: Outline of Action PlanI am back. Now let me try to put all this in as short an email as possible. There will be many questions about it. What I am trying to do is to give a rough outline first."We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with inherent and inalienable rights; that among these, are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness; that to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed; that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness." --Declaration of Independence as originally written by Jefferson, 1776. ME 1:29, Papers 1:315The above paragraph illustrates that people have the power and the right to change a destructive government. The federal government of the USA has become destructive to the American people as well as to people outside America. The American people have the right and the duty to change such a destructive government as they are ultimately responsible for the actions of their government. We also have to remember that every right has a duty attached to it. In other words, people are responsible.There are many instances in which the federal government is violating people's rights and freedoms which are:the freedoms of speech, press, and religion; the well-regulated militia's right to keep and bear arms; the freedom of assembly; the freedom to petition; and the rights to be free of unreasonable search and seizure; cruel and unusual punishment; and compelled self-incrimination.I don't know where to place the forced vaccination but it evidently is not a right of the government to impose forced medications of any kind. Governments will force the vaccinations on people as long as the pressure from the people is not strong enough to make the government abandon this tactic.How can this be done? How can government be forced to change this program?Let's ask how the government gets away with forced vaccinations. What are their most successful weapons the government is using against the people? Aren't they fear? Government threatens people with imprisonment - people fear imprisonment. Government threatens people with intimidation - people fear being intimidated by police, the courts, law suits, etc. Government is playing on human emotions.Now we have to realize that police officers, judges, lawyers, senators, government employees are also people. So are the officers with the SWAT team, the ambulance attendants, doctors, nurses, FDA employees, etc. They have the same emotions and uncertainties as everyone else. They also fear. And, they know when they do wrong.My program was based on these specifics.I had certain steps I followed every time I did a flyer campaign. They are as follows:- Let people involved know beforehand what you have in mind IF THEY CONTINUE WITH THEIR UNACCEPTABLE ACTIONS, in this case forced vaccinations.- Give the people involved a specified time to respond.- Ask people involved how they want to change their program or actions, or, how they intend to rectify the damage done.It is very important to give the people enough time to respond and to warn them beforehand of what they can expect if they continue with their unacceptable actions.If the people do not respond then go ahead within the outlined time limit and follow the specified actions without delay.What I would envision in the forced vaccination case is as follows:Get in touch with all the medical professionals you know are against forced vaccinations. Outline to them your ideas. Ask them to get in touch with their clients that are against forced vaccinations and people that have suffered from vaccinations. Get as many people involved as possible. Get them on a mailing list. Start an education campaign. Get them involved. Let them study the different vaccination websites - that is web sites for and against vaccinations. They will have to be familiar with both so that they can understand where the vaccination story is false, where they lie started. Let them know that Pasteur recanted on his death bed.Once you have enough people interested in participating there is one more part they have to understand, and that is the psychological aspect of this program. How do people react to exposure. Why does this program has to be executed in this manner. Why it will not work any other way. The flyers have to be written and have to be distributed by the people involved or by a professional delivery company. It is most successful if people distribute the flyers themselves because they are now involved, they have a stake in it. The flyers have to be written in a way that leaves no doubt as to what forced vaccination is and in general what vaccinations are and the purpose they are serving. In my opinion, and what I have studied and read about it, it has ONLY ONE PURPOSE AND THAT IS POPULATION CONTROL. And there are a number of examples which prove that this is so. All this has to get on the flyers and people in positions who advocate forced vaccinations have to be made aware of this. They have to be clear without a shadow of a doubt what awaits them if they continue with their program - they are following a program which results in premeditated murder.Let's assume that the people responsible for the forced vaccinations will not believe you and continue with their methods, which I doubt if the preparatory steps are done right, then you will have to write the flyers. It will not be one flyer, it will not be two flyers, there might be 20 or 30 or more flyers on the same case. You start with one flyer. A few days later the second flyer will be distributed with more information about vaccination. Then a third one. By that time the government will have taken some steps to counter your program. Then you will have to address this government action. I don't know what will happen. Somebody might get arrested. Whatever will happen you have to continue if you want to be successful. To dissolve a growing dictatorship is no easy task. If nothing is done America will cease to exist as it was known up to now. And the people will bear the responsibility because the people are ultimately responsible for the actions of their government. Americans do not realize yet how precarious their situation is.Now one might argue that it would be advisable to wait till Ron is president. Remember what happened to Kennedy? If the powers behind the scenes, the people who really pull the strings, decide that Ron has to go he will get murdered. That's the sad truth. What will or can they do when millions of people start to expose the crooks in government? Do you think that any of the flunkies in government will be willing to listen to the string pullers? I am sure they will not. This is the situation that has to be created. Government has to become afraid of the people again. That's when a country is healthy. That's when things are going the way they ought to run. But that only happens when people fulfill their responsibilities. Now keep in mind that not everyone will participate. But not everyone needs to participate. History has shown that with any major change only about 3% of the people take part. I believe that if you can mobilize 100000 people and up you have it made.There might be a lot of resistance to this program because it is exposing people and their CRIMINAL actions. Most people do not like to do this. There we have to realize that criminals cannot be dealt with in any other manner. They do not understand any other language.Now I have to make you aware of a new bill about before Congress, I believe, and it is H.R. 1955. You can google itOne more thing, about myself. If you have googled my name you might be under the impression that I am a radical or something like this. Don't forget that the corporate media has the great ability of slanting the truth, dispense half truth or half the story in such a way that the story is totally different than what it really is. Corporate media represents the interests of the government. As you well know, when you are on the opposite side of government you can be sure to be smeared, attacked, vilified, etc. I had a death threat uttered against me by two police officers a few years back. That didn't go anywhere because I made this public on flyers. There is always a way to counteract ANY government threats.This is a broad outline of my program I followed for many years with great success.It is up to the American people if they REALLY want to put and end to the criminal government actions against them. I would be more than willing to help you in any way I can.Fred KyburzOn 09.01.2008, at 16:44, majestichealth  wrote:

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On 11.01.2008, at 00:58, Lynda Hardin-Poston wrote:The one major thing that everyone must remember iswhen you fight city hall, city hall doesn't fight fair. City Hall will have to start fighting fair when we expose the wrong with TRUTH.  They have no choice.  This is what people experienced when they have engaged in this method as experienced.  It is an unbelievable and overwhelming experience and realization.   Theyhave powers to cause us harm, if they want. Don't let them!  They have only the power we give them or let them have.  You foundthat out yourself first hand. True.  But they realized soon enough that they are on the shorter end of the stick.  Freedom has a price.  People today think that the government  should preserve our rights and freedoms.  In theory this is correct.  In practice the picture is totally different.  Most of the world knows the dire straights Americans are in.  Most Americans haven't got a clue.  They will wake up one morning and find themselves in the same situation the Germans found themselves in a few decades ago.  Then it's too late to do anything.  Now there is still some faint hope to change the situation.  I would rather get 'hurt' right now than wait till all the possibilities of a protest are taken away.  America is right now at this juncture.  You were strong and smartenough to know what to do and how to do it.  All aren'tthat lucky.  Anyone will know what to do if they want to know and if they stand up for something that is helpful to anyone.  These are the hidden powers within every individual that come to the fore once the process is started.   found this out also, not from a book, not in theory, but during practical application, an application that was based on an honest concern for the community she lives in. The point people will have to be doctors, lawyers,people in government, like Ron , who are willingto stand up for the cause, people that if somethinghappened to them, it would be noticed and wouldbe picked up by the press. When the press picks something up they put their slant on it which is the government slant.  I have experienced that also when the press picked up my story.  This story put out by the government had nothing to do with truth.  It was twisted and turned.  We were accused of a terrorist act when there was apparently a bomb found in the Kamloops court house the trial took place that day.  I put the story on the internet on my web site the government shut down three times! and explained the fact and proven that it was the government.   That would bring issuesinto the light and that is what they DON'T want. Afew marchers or "trouble makers" put in jail reallydon't make much of a ripple other than for peopleto think they are "loons" or "rabid."  Not quite true.  It all depends how the "loons" or "trouble makers" react to the accusations.  Lots of hay can be made with such accusations.  I always welcomed stories like this in news papers.  When we delivered flyers in Revelstoke British Columbia the local news paper took it upon itself to print a story about us which was totally untrue.  I wrote a flyer about it and tore the contents of that news paper article to shreds.  Because of it we got an incredible amount of support from the local community.  By the way Revelstoke is about 6 hours drive from Calgary where I lived a the time.  The first time we distributed flyers there the police were on us within 20 minutes, the second time within about 5 minutes and the third time they hid in their police station, closed the blinds and turned off the lights!  You have to experience these situations in order to appreciate them.  We distributed flyers there because a friend of ours was arrested in Calgary without an arrest warrant and under false charges.  Eventually they had to let him go.  We put an incredible amount of pressure on every official involved in the case as well as the entire government of British Columbia and Alberta as well as the federal justice minister.  This man most likely would not have come out of the prison system if we would not have taken these actions. Perception by the public is EVERYTHING. Howany movement is perceived by the masses reallydetermines how many people will join the movement.  As I mentioned previously it doesn't really matter how many people are involved.  But it surely matters how the people involved are committed to the cause.   That is why you must make sure it never seems tobe a bunch of maniacs who go overboard in theattempt to get attention for their cause (like PETA).  Everyone is a crazy in the eyes of the government and the people who have no idea about reality who stands for truth.  This was the case for thousands of years.  Remember the fellow who lived 2000 years ago and was put on the cross because he attacked the money changers in the temple.  Today the situation is still the same.  You tell the same truth today and you are looked at as a lunatic.  The same people are still in control.  What you really need is a good PR person, someonewho knows how to prepare and present a campaign.A political strategist would be great for a project likethis. If anyone has any contacts with such a personwho might be interested, maybe it would behooveyou to mention it. <grin>  You are trying to do the very thing that brings every honest attempt to change to its knees.  We have to grow up and take responsibility.  We have to realize that nobody will do the job I am supposed to do.  Some people will tell you that they will do the job you are supposed to do.  What will happen is that they will do the job to their advantage.  Just like the government has done.  The government told us we shouldn't worry, we should watch TV and let them do what is best for us.  You know the rest of the story.     Fred, I think you are right, this is just ONE part ofa much larger picture, that picture being the factthat the government is too involved in our lives.We are loosing, more and more, our rights to"Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness." Itis time we took back our country.  And it's only us that can do that job, nobody else.  The government will put any possible obstruction in our path because they hate to loose control.    Blessings,Dr. Lynda Hardin-Poston5109 Stotzer Pwy.College Station, TX 77845(979)260-1202Http://www.doctorlynda.comHealth, God's Way Re: Outline of Action PlanI am back. Now let me try to put all this in as short an email as possible. There will be many questions about it. What I am trying to do is to give a rough outline first."We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with inherent and inalienable rights; that among these, are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness; that to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed; that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness." --Declaration of Independence as originally written by Jefferson, 1776. ME 1:29, Papers 1:315The above paragraph illustrates that people have the power and the right to change a destructive government. The federal government of the USA has become destructive to the American people as well as to people outside America. The American people have the right and the duty to change such a destructive government as they are ultimately responsible for the actions of their government. We also have to remember that every right has a duty attached to it. In other words, people are responsible.There are many instances in which the federal government is violating people's rights and freedoms which are:the freedoms of speech, press, and religion; the well-regulated militia's right to keep and bear arms; the freedom of assembly; the freedom to petition; and the rights to be free of unreasonable search and seizure; cruel and unusual punishment; and compelled self-incrimination.I don't know where to place the forced vaccination but it evidently is not a right of the government to impose forced medications of any kind. Governments will force the vaccinations on people as long as the pressure from the people is not strong enough to make the government abandon this tactic.How can this be done? How can government be forced to change this program?Let's ask how the government gets away with forced vaccinations. What are their most successful weapons the government is using against the people? Aren't they fear? Government threatens people with imprisonment - people fear imprisonment. Government threatens people with intimidation - people fear being intimidated by police, the courts, law suits, etc. Government is playing on human emotions.Now we have to realize that police officers, judges, lawyers, senators, government employees are also people. So are the officers with the SWAT team, the ambulance attendants, doctors, nurses, FDA employees, etc. They have the same emotions and uncertainties as everyone else. They also fear. And, they know when they do wrong.My program was based on these specifics.I had certain steps I followed every time I did a flyer campaign. They are as follows:- Let people involved know beforehand what you have in mind IF THEY CONTINUE WITH THEIR UNACCEPTABLE ACTIONS, in this case forced vaccinations.- Give the people involved a specified time to respond.- Ask people involved how they want to change their program or actions, or, how they intend to rectify the damage done.It is very important to give the people enough time to respond and to warn them beforehand of what they can expect if they continue with their unacceptable actions.If the people do not respond then go ahead within the outlined time limit and follow the specified actions without delay.What I would envision in the forced vaccination case is as follows:Get in touch with all the medical professionals you know are against forced vaccinations. Outline to them your ideas. Ask them to get in touch with their clients that are against forced vaccinations and people that have suffered from vaccinations. Get as many people involved as possible. Get them on a mailing list. Start an education campaign. Get them involved. Let them study the different vaccination websites - that is web sites for and against vaccinations. They will have to be familiar with both so that they can understand where the vaccination story is false, where they lie started. Let them know that Pasteur recanted on his death bed.Once you have enough people interested in participating there is one more part they have to understand, and that is the psychological aspect of this program. How do people react to exposure. Why does this program has to be executed in this manner. Why it will not work any other way. The flyers have to be written and have to be distributed by the people involved or by a professional delivery company. It is most successful if people distribute the flyers themselves because they are now involved, they have a stake in it. The flyers have to be written in a way that leaves no doubt as to what forced vaccination is and in general what vaccinations are and the purpose they are serving. In my opinion, and what I have studied and read about it, it has ONLY ONE PURPOSE AND THAT IS POPULATION CONTROL. And there are a number of examples which prove that this is so. All this has to get on the flyers and people in positions who advocate forced vaccinations have to be made aware of this. They have to be clear without a shadow of a doubt what awaits them if they continue with their program - they are following a program which results in premeditated murder.Let's assume that the people responsible for the forced vaccinations will not believe you and continue with their methods, which I doubt if the preparatory steps are done right, then you will have to write the flyers. It will not be one flyer, it will not be two flyers, there might be 20 or 30 or more flyers on the same case. You start with one flyer. A few days later the second flyer will be distributed with more information about vaccination. Then a third one. By that time the government will have taken some steps to counter your program. Then you will have to address this government action. I don't know what will happen. Somebody might get arrested. Whatever will happen you have to continue if you want to be successful. To dissolve a growing dictatorship is no easy task. If nothing is done America will cease to exist as it was known up to now. And the people will bear the responsibility because the people are ultimately responsible for the actions of their government. Americans do not realize yet how precarious their situation is.Now one might argue that it would be advisable to wait till Ron is president. Remember what happened to Kennedy? If the powers behind the scenes, the people who really pull the strings, decide that Ron has to go he will get murdered. That's the sad truth. What will or can they do when millions of people start to expose the crooks in government? Do you think that any of the flunkies in government will be willing to listen to the string pullers? I am sure they will not. This is the situation that has to be created. Government has to become afraid of the people again. That's when a country is healthy. That's when things are going the way they ought to run. But that only happens when people fulfill their responsibilities. Now keep in mind that not everyone will participate. But not everyone needs to participate. History has shown that with any major change only about 3% of the people take part. I believe that if you can mobilize 100000 people and up you have it made.There might be a lot of resistance to this program because it is exposing people and their CRIMINAL actions. Most people do not like to do this. There we have to realize that criminals cannot be dealt with in any other manner. They do not understand any other language.Now I have to make you aware of a new bill about before Congress, I believe, and it is H.R. 1955. You can google itOne more thing, about myself. If you have googled my name you might be under the impression that I am a radical or something like this. Don't forget that the corporate media has the great ability of slanting the truth, dispense half truth or half the story in such a way that the story is totally different than what it really is. Corporate media represents the interests of the government. As you well know, when you are on the opposite side of government you can be sure to be smeared, attacked, vilified, etc. I had a death threat uttered against me by two police officers a few years back. That didn't go anywhere because I made this public on flyers. There is always a way to counteract ANY government threats.This is a broad outline of my program I followed for many years with great success.It is up to the American people if they REALLY want to put and end to the criminal government actions against them. I would be more than willing to help you in any way I can.Fred KyburzOn 09.01.2008, at 16:44, majestichealth  wrote:

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On 11.01.2008, at 01:08, Lynda Hardin-Poston wrote:You can bet they have a mole in here watching what we say. No doubt about it.  The government has people that all they do is scan the blogs and message boards for all kinds of reasons, not just to find terrorists. This simply shows how afraid they are.  If they are so afraid why should we be afraid of them?   The name of this group cries out for monitoring by "big brother."  It sure does but so what.  We can be in control of the situation.  We simply need to know how.  And as we have seen there are people here with good experience. Speaking of that, on my new board, the second person to sign onto it has no true screen name, no identification and I have no way of emailing them. It is as if they are there but not there. It is strange. I am thinking it is some government agency who has access to the system and can monitor it by having the emails sent to them but they remain hidden from view in that no one sees them (except the moderator, which happens to be me).  If someone has to stay in hiding get rid of him. Whoever moderates this board, check your member list and see if you have a member where the name can not be clicked on and go to their profile. On mine, it is just black lettering instead of the blue that indicates a link. I believe this to be some kind of "other" monitoring. Maybe I am paranoid, but it is very strange and I know that all people who promote any natural remedies have a bulls eye on their back.    That's why we have to stick together.  The government did a marvelous job in isolating us from each other.  How did they do it?  By the famous box everyone is sitting in front for hours every day.  We have no time anymore for our neighbors, for our friends, fro our families because we cannot miss the ball game or the soap opera at 4PM.  That's why every one is an easy target.  The first thing we have to do is to change this trend.  We have to learn to meet our neighbors next door and across town.  When the government realizes that they are not dealing with an individual but an entire town they will not be able to push the situation too far.  Remember what happened several decades ago: First they came for the jews but I wasn't a jews so I didn't care.  Then they came for the Catholics but I wasn't a Catholic so I didn't care.  ....  You know the rest of the story.  Same thing here.  We have to change this first.  Yes, only the individual can do this.  Dr. Lynda Hardin-Poston5109 Stotzer Pwy.College Station, TX 77845(979)260-1202Http://www.doctorlynda.comHealth, God's Way Re: Outline of Action PlanFred, you are awesome!!  A true kindred spirit.  I know there are many others out there who need to come forward and answer the call to stand up for their rights.  'Stand for something,or fall for anything' is another of my favorite quotes.  What you have said is so true and those in 'power' or so they think, are only using fear as that is the only tactic they're familiarwith.  However, we need to arm ourselves w/facts and a steadfast resolve to continue exposing those who speak lies.  A man's reputation is all he has and people in bureaucracies hate to have their egos trampled on.  I relish exposing these charlatansfor what they are and the more that people own their power and go out on a limb andstate the truth, then the tide will turn and they will respect our voices, ultimately.  I don't want them to fear us necessarily, but if that is what it takes, so be it.   Trudeau's example pointed out in a former e-mail was right on the money.  Canyou imagine a court scene where thousands of letters are literally brought in to supportthe defendant?  What a powerful visualization.  For those who haven't seen it yet, andthose who have, watch 'The Secret'.  I realize it's been out awhile, but the messagesput forth are powerful and the approaches discussed are ageless and they do work,believe me.  In our Walmart battle, we all collectively and individually visualized Walmartwalking away from the negotations table.  They ultimately gave up as they realized wewere a force to be reckoned with.  We weren't a huge community, but we had a voiceand we were not afraid to use it.  We played hardball and wore them down.  No ifs, andsor butts.  There was absolutely NO WAY, they were going to come into our neighborhood.We had 'support your local retailers day', where people were encouraged to shop at thelocal shops which displayed a 'Stop Elitch Walmart' sign in their window and a list of theseretailers was on our webpage.  We also had a 'call Walmart day' where we flooded theirphonelines and it was the first time ever their lines were totally busy.  We had cellphone#'s of the execs and would call them daily to let them know 'DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUTCOMING INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD'.  After awhile, they realized we were too hostileand organized to deal with and they left w/their tails between their legs.  Talk aboutcelebration!  To this day, I can walk our streets and run into people I now considerfriends who joined us in that effort.  I envision the same happening here in our effortsto inform and educate everyone around us about how vaccines are dangerous, howeveryone has free choice, and to question those in charge.  Anything is possible, andI will be here to witness the drug cartel breaking up.  I realize it's a huge goal, but it's akinto a vs. Goliath battle, which can be won.  Fred, your steps are in lockstep w/mine and I encourage others to take this info and spreadit as far as possible.  I have a growing e-mail base of friends and colleagues and I regularlyput out info from the NVIC and other websites which are relevant to our cause.  Thank you to everyone involved in this effort.  Keep the faith and everyday devote time todoing your best to spread the word. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.

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On 11.01.2008, at 01:08, Lynda Hardin-Poston wrote:You can bet they have a mole in here watching what we say. No doubt about it.  The government has people that all they do is scan the blogs and message boards for all kinds of reasons, not just to find terrorists. This simply shows how afraid they are.  If they are so afraid why should we be afraid of them?   The name of this group cries out for monitoring by "big brother."  It sure does but so what.  We can be in control of the situation.  We simply need to know how.  And as we have seen there are people here with good experience. Speaking of that, on my new board, the second person to sign onto it has no true screen name, no identification and I have no way of emailing them. It is as if they are there but not there. It is strange. I am thinking it is some government agency who has access to the system and can monitor it by having the emails sent to them but they remain hidden from view in that no one sees them (except the moderator, which happens to be me).  If someone has to stay in hiding get rid of him. Whoever moderates this board, check your member list and see if you have a member where the name can not be clicked on and go to their profile. On mine, it is just black lettering instead of the blue that indicates a link. I believe this to be some kind of "other" monitoring. Maybe I am paranoid, but it is very strange and I know that all people who promote any natural remedies have a bulls eye on their back.    That's why we have to stick together.  The government did a marvelous job in isolating us from each other.  How did they do it?  By the famous box everyone is sitting in front for hours every day.  We have no time anymore for our neighbors, for our friends, fro our families because we cannot miss the ball game or the soap opera at 4PM.  That's why every one is an easy target.  The first thing we have to do is to change this trend.  We have to learn to meet our neighbors next door and across town.  When the government realizes that they are not dealing with an individual but an entire town they will not be able to push the situation too far.  Remember what happened several decades ago: First they came for the jews but I wasn't a jews so I didn't care.  Then they came for the Catholics but I wasn't a Catholic so I didn't care.  ....  You know the rest of the story.  Same thing here.  We have to change this first.  Yes, only the individual can do this.  Dr. Lynda Hardin-Poston5109 Stotzer Pwy.College Station, TX 77845(979)260-1202Http://www.doctorlynda.comHealth, God's Way Re: Outline of Action PlanFred, you are awesome!!  A true kindred spirit.  I know there are many others out there who need to come forward and answer the call to stand up for their rights.  'Stand for something,or fall for anything' is another of my favorite quotes.  What you have said is so true and those in 'power' or so they think, are only using fear as that is the only tactic they're familiarwith.  However, we need to arm ourselves w/facts and a steadfast resolve to continue exposing those who speak lies.  A man's reputation is all he has and people in bureaucracies hate to have their egos trampled on.  I relish exposing these charlatansfor what they are and the more that people own their power and go out on a limb andstate the truth, then the tide will turn and they will respect our voices, ultimately.  I don't want them to fear us necessarily, but if that is what it takes, so be it.   Trudeau's example pointed out in a former e-mail was right on the money.  Canyou imagine a court scene where thousands of letters are literally brought in to supportthe defendant?  What a powerful visualization.  For those who haven't seen it yet, andthose who have, watch 'The Secret'.  I realize it's been out awhile, but the messagesput forth are powerful and the approaches discussed are ageless and they do work,believe me.  In our Walmart battle, we all collectively and individually visualized Walmartwalking away from the negotations table.  They ultimately gave up as they realized wewere a force to be reckoned with.  We weren't a huge community, but we had a voiceand we were not afraid to use it.  We played hardball and wore them down.  No ifs, andsor butts.  There was absolutely NO WAY, they were going to come into our neighborhood.We had 'support your local retailers day', where people were encouraged to shop at thelocal shops which displayed a 'Stop Elitch Walmart' sign in their window and a list of theseretailers was on our webpage.  We also had a 'call Walmart day' where we flooded theirphonelines and it was the first time ever their lines were totally busy.  We had cellphone#'s of the execs and would call them daily to let them know 'DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUTCOMING INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD'.  After awhile, they realized we were too hostileand organized to deal with and they left w/their tails between their legs.  Talk aboutcelebration!  To this day, I can walk our streets and run into people I now considerfriends who joined us in that effort.  I envision the same happening here in our effortsto inform and educate everyone around us about how vaccines are dangerous, howeveryone has free choice, and to question those in charge.  Anything is possible, andI will be here to witness the drug cartel breaking up.  I realize it's a huge goal, but it's akinto a vs. Goliath battle, which can be won.  Fred, your steps are in lockstep w/mine and I encourage others to take this info and spreadit as far as possible.  I have a growing e-mail base of friends and colleagues and I regularlyput out info from the NVIC and other websites which are relevant to our cause.  Thank you to everyone involved in this effort.  Keep the faith and everyday devote time todoing your best to spread the word. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.

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On 11.01.2008, at 01:08, Lynda Hardin-Poston wrote:You can bet they have a mole in here watching what we say. No doubt about it.  The government has people that all they do is scan the blogs and message boards for all kinds of reasons, not just to find terrorists. This simply shows how afraid they are.  If they are so afraid why should we be afraid of them?   The name of this group cries out for monitoring by "big brother."  It sure does but so what.  We can be in control of the situation.  We simply need to know how.  And as we have seen there are people here with good experience. Speaking of that, on my new board, the second person to sign onto it has no true screen name, no identification and I have no way of emailing them. It is as if they are there but not there. It is strange. I am thinking it is some government agency who has access to the system and can monitor it by having the emails sent to them but they remain hidden from view in that no one sees them (except the moderator, which happens to be me).  If someone has to stay in hiding get rid of him. Whoever moderates this board, check your member list and see if you have a member where the name can not be clicked on and go to their profile. On mine, it is just black lettering instead of the blue that indicates a link. I believe this to be some kind of "other" monitoring. Maybe I am paranoid, but it is very strange and I know that all people who promote any natural remedies have a bulls eye on their back.    That's why we have to stick together.  The government did a marvelous job in isolating us from each other.  How did they do it?  By the famous box everyone is sitting in front for hours every day.  We have no time anymore for our neighbors, for our friends, fro our families because we cannot miss the ball game or the soap opera at 4PM.  That's why every one is an easy target.  The first thing we have to do is to change this trend.  We have to learn to meet our neighbors next door and across town.  When the government realizes that they are not dealing with an individual but an entire town they will not be able to push the situation too far.  Remember what happened several decades ago: First they came for the jews but I wasn't a jews so I didn't care.  Then they came for the Catholics but I wasn't a Catholic so I didn't care.  ....  You know the rest of the story.  Same thing here.  We have to change this first.  Yes, only the individual can do this.  Dr. Lynda Hardin-Poston5109 Stotzer Pwy.College Station, TX 77845(979)260-1202Http://www.doctorlynda.comHealth, God's Way Re: Outline of Action PlanFred, you are awesome!!  A true kindred spirit.  I know there are many others out there who need to come forward and answer the call to stand up for their rights.  'Stand for something,or fall for anything' is another of my favorite quotes.  What you have said is so true and those in 'power' or so they think, are only using fear as that is the only tactic they're familiarwith.  However, we need to arm ourselves w/facts and a steadfast resolve to continue exposing those who speak lies.  A man's reputation is all he has and people in bureaucracies hate to have their egos trampled on.  I relish exposing these charlatansfor what they are and the more that people own their power and go out on a limb andstate the truth, then the tide will turn and they will respect our voices, ultimately.  I don't want them to fear us necessarily, but if that is what it takes, so be it.   Trudeau's example pointed out in a former e-mail was right on the money.  Canyou imagine a court scene where thousands of letters are literally brought in to supportthe defendant?  What a powerful visualization.  For those who haven't seen it yet, andthose who have, watch 'The Secret'.  I realize it's been out awhile, but the messagesput forth are powerful and the approaches discussed are ageless and they do work,believe me.  In our Walmart battle, we all collectively and individually visualized Walmartwalking away from the negotations table.  They ultimately gave up as they realized wewere a force to be reckoned with.  We weren't a huge community, but we had a voiceand we were not afraid to use it.  We played hardball and wore them down.  No ifs, andsor butts.  There was absolutely NO WAY, they were going to come into our neighborhood.We had 'support your local retailers day', where people were encouraged to shop at thelocal shops which displayed a 'Stop Elitch Walmart' sign in their window and a list of theseretailers was on our webpage.  We also had a 'call Walmart day' where we flooded theirphonelines and it was the first time ever their lines were totally busy.  We had cellphone#'s of the execs and would call them daily to let them know 'DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUTCOMING INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD'.  After awhile, they realized we were too hostileand organized to deal with and they left w/their tails between their legs.  Talk aboutcelebration!  To this day, I can walk our streets and run into people I now considerfriends who joined us in that effort.  I envision the same happening here in our effortsto inform and educate everyone around us about how vaccines are dangerous, howeveryone has free choice, and to question those in charge.  Anything is possible, andI will be here to witness the drug cartel breaking up.  I realize it's a huge goal, but it's akinto a vs. Goliath battle, which can be won.  Fred, your steps are in lockstep w/mine and I encourage others to take this info and spreadit as far as possible.  I have a growing e-mail base of friends and colleagues and I regularlyput out info from the NVIC and other websites which are relevant to our cause.  Thank you to everyone involved in this effort.  Keep the faith and everyday devote time todoing your best to spread the word. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.

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On 11.01.2008, at 01:08, Lynda Hardin-Poston wrote:You can bet they have a mole in here watching what we say. No doubt about it.  The government has people that all they do is scan the blogs and message boards for all kinds of reasons, not just to find terrorists. This simply shows how afraid they are.  If they are so afraid why should we be afraid of them?   The name of this group cries out for monitoring by "big brother."  It sure does but so what.  We can be in control of the situation.  We simply need to know how.  And as we have seen there are people here with good experience. Speaking of that, on my new board, the second person to sign onto it has no true screen name, no identification and I have no way of emailing them. It is as if they are there but not there. It is strange. I am thinking it is some government agency who has access to the system and can monitor it by having the emails sent to them but they remain hidden from view in that no one sees them (except the moderator, which happens to be me).  If someone has to stay in hiding get rid of him. Whoever moderates this board, check your member list and see if you have a member where the name can not be clicked on and go to their profile. On mine, it is just black lettering instead of the blue that indicates a link. I believe this to be some kind of "other" monitoring. Maybe I am paranoid, but it is very strange and I know that all people who promote any natural remedies have a bulls eye on their back.    That's why we have to stick together.  The government did a marvelous job in isolating us from each other.  How did they do it?  By the famous box everyone is sitting in front for hours every day.  We have no time anymore for our neighbors, for our friends, fro our families because we cannot miss the ball game or the soap opera at 4PM.  That's why every one is an easy target.  The first thing we have to do is to change this trend.  We have to learn to meet our neighbors next door and across town.  When the government realizes that they are not dealing with an individual but an entire town they will not be able to push the situation too far.  Remember what happened several decades ago: First they came for the jews but I wasn't a jews so I didn't care.  Then they came for the Catholics but I wasn't a Catholic so I didn't care.  ....  You know the rest of the story.  Same thing here.  We have to change this first.  Yes, only the individual can do this.  Dr. Lynda Hardin-Poston5109 Stotzer Pwy.College Station, TX 77845(979)260-1202Http://www.doctorlynda.comHealth, God's Way Re: Outline of Action PlanFred, you are awesome!!  A true kindred spirit.  I know there are many others out there who need to come forward and answer the call to stand up for their rights.  'Stand for something,or fall for anything' is another of my favorite quotes.  What you have said is so true and those in 'power' or so they think, are only using fear as that is the only tactic they're familiarwith.  However, we need to arm ourselves w/facts and a steadfast resolve to continue exposing those who speak lies.  A man's reputation is all he has and people in bureaucracies hate to have their egos trampled on.  I relish exposing these charlatansfor what they are and the more that people own their power and go out on a limb andstate the truth, then the tide will turn and they will respect our voices, ultimately.  I don't want them to fear us necessarily, but if that is what it takes, so be it.   Trudeau's example pointed out in a former e-mail was right on the money.  Canyou imagine a court scene where thousands of letters are literally brought in to supportthe defendant?  What a powerful visualization.  For those who haven't seen it yet, andthose who have, watch 'The Secret'.  I realize it's been out awhile, but the messagesput forth are powerful and the approaches discussed are ageless and they do work,believe me.  In our Walmart battle, we all collectively and individually visualized Walmartwalking away from the negotations table.  They ultimately gave up as they realized wewere a force to be reckoned with.  We weren't a huge community, but we had a voiceand we were not afraid to use it.  We played hardball and wore them down.  No ifs, andsor butts.  There was absolutely NO WAY, they were going to come into our neighborhood.We had 'support your local retailers day', where people were encouraged to shop at thelocal shops which displayed a 'Stop Elitch Walmart' sign in their window and a list of theseretailers was on our webpage.  We also had a 'call Walmart day' where we flooded theirphonelines and it was the first time ever their lines were totally busy.  We had cellphone#'s of the execs and would call them daily to let them know 'DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUTCOMING INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD'.  After awhile, they realized we were too hostileand organized to deal with and they left w/their tails between their legs.  Talk aboutcelebration!  To this day, I can walk our streets and run into people I now considerfriends who joined us in that effort.  I envision the same happening here in our effortsto inform and educate everyone around us about how vaccines are dangerous, howeveryone has free choice, and to question those in charge.  Anything is possible, andI will be here to witness the drug cartel breaking up.  I realize it's a huge goal, but it's akinto a vs. Goliath battle, which can be won.  Fred, your steps are in lockstep w/mine and I encourage others to take this info and spreadit as far as possible.  I have a growing e-mail base of friends and colleagues and I regularlyput out info from the NVIC and other websites which are relevant to our cause.  Thank you to everyone involved in this effort.  Keep the faith and everyday devote time todoing your best to spread the word. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.

[Guest guest]

Start in your hometown.  Start with the people you know.  Build a group.  You have so many connections with many different professions.  You are better positioned than most of us.  Just start! On 11.01.2008, at 03:49, majestichealth@... wrote:Did you understand me when I suggested a special email..quite frankly that is not the way to go...we need to speak to each other some other way maybe via phone which can be done somehow...anyway they follow me and I know it...I am not giving up...too much that I went though or we went throuh and that is our thing..I know we can do it  if someone has a good suggestion let me know   we are from different states and areas and it is all the same...lets travel light as "Ella Fitzgerald' use to say and let me get back into my music from the Glenn Orchestra and lets try all walks of life...we can do it...  Re: Outline of Action PlanFred, you are awesome!!  A true kindred spirit.  I know there are many others out there who need to come forward and answer the call to stand up for their rights.  'Stand for something,or fall for anything' is another of my favorite quotes.  What you have said is so true and those in 'power' or so they think, are only using fear as that is the only tactic they're familiarwith.  However, we need to arm ourselves w/facts and a steadfast resolve to continue exposing those who speak lies.  A man's reputation is all he has and people in bureaucracies hate to have their egos trampled on.  I relish exposing these charlatansfor what they are and the more that people own their power and go out on a limb andstate the truth, then the tide will turn and they will respect our voices, ultimately.  I don't want them to fear us necessarily, but if that is what it takes, so be it.   Trudeau's example pointed out in a former e-mail was right on the money.  Canyou imagine a court scene where thousands of letters are literally brought in to supportthe defendant?  What a powerful visualization.  For those who haven't seen it yet, andthose who have, watch 'The Secret'.  I realize it's been out awhile, but the messagesput forth are powerful and the approaches discussed are ageless and they do work,believe me.  In our Walmart battle, we all collectively and individually visualized Walmartwalking away from the negotations table.  They ultimately gave up as they realized wewere a force to be reckoned with.  We weren't a huge community, but we had a voiceand we were not afraid to use it.  We played hardball and wore them down.  No ifs, andsor butts.  There was absolutely NO WAY, they were going to come into our neighborhood.We had 'support your local retailers day', where people were encouraged to shop at thelocal shops which displayed a 'Stop Elitch Walmart' sign in their window and a list of theseretailers was on our webpage.  We also had a 'call Walmart day' where we flooded theirphonelines and it was the first time ever their lines were totally busy.  We had cellphone#'s of the execs and would call them daily to let them know 'DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUTCOMING INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD'.  After awhile, they realized we were too hostileand organized to deal with and they left w/their tails between their legs.  Talk aboutcelebration!  To this day, I can walk our streets and run into people I now considerfriends who joined us in that effort.  I envision the same happening here in our effortsto inform and educate everyone around us about how vaccines are dangerous, howeveryone has free choice, and to question those in charge.  Anything is possible, andI will be here to witness the drug cartel breaking up.  I realize it's a huge goal, but it's akinto a vs. Goliath battle, which can be won.  Fred, your steps are in lockstep w/mine and I encourage others to take this info and spreadit as far as possible.  I have a growing e-mail base of friends and colleagues and I regularlyput out info from the NVIC and other websites which are relevant to our cause.  Thank you to everyone involved in this effort.  Keep the faith and everyday devote time todoing your best to spread the word. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.

[Guest guest]

Start in your hometown.  Start with the people you know.  Build a group.  You have so many connections with many different professions.  You are better positioned than most of us.  Just start! On 11.01.2008, at 03:49, majestichealth@... wrote:Did you understand me when I suggested a special email..quite frankly that is not the way to go...we need to speak to each other some other way maybe via phone which can be done somehow...anyway they follow me and I know it...I am not giving up...too much that I went though or we went throuh and that is our thing..I know we can do it  if someone has a good suggestion let me know   we are from different states and areas and it is all the same...lets travel light as "Ella Fitzgerald' use to say and let me get back into my music from the Glenn Orchestra and lets try all walks of life...we can do it...  Re: Outline of Action PlanFred, you are awesome!!  A true kindred spirit.  I know there are many others out there who need to come forward and answer the call to stand up for their rights.  'Stand for something,or fall for anything' is another of my favorite quotes.  What you have said is so true and those in 'power' or so they think, are only using fear as that is the only tactic they're familiarwith.  However, we need to arm ourselves w/facts and a steadfast resolve to continue exposing those who speak lies.  A man's reputation is all he has and people in bureaucracies hate to have their egos trampled on.  I relish exposing these charlatansfor what they are and the more that people own their power and go out on a limb andstate the truth, then the tide will turn and they will respect our voices, ultimately.  I don't want them to fear us necessarily, but if that is what it takes, so be it.   Trudeau's example pointed out in a former e-mail was right on the money.  Canyou imagine a court scene where thousands of letters are literally brought in to supportthe defendant?  What a powerful visualization.  For those who haven't seen it yet, andthose who have, watch 'The Secret'.  I realize it's been out awhile, but the messagesput forth are powerful and the approaches discussed are ageless and they do work,believe me.  In our Walmart battle, we all collectively and individually visualized Walmartwalking away from the negotations table.  They ultimately gave up as they realized wewere a force to be reckoned with.  We weren't a huge community, but we had a voiceand we were not afraid to use it.  We played hardball and wore them down.  No ifs, andsor butts.  There was absolutely NO WAY, they were going to come into our neighborhood.We had 'support your local retailers day', where people were encouraged to shop at thelocal shops which displayed a 'Stop Elitch Walmart' sign in their window and a list of theseretailers was on our webpage.  We also had a 'call Walmart day' where we flooded theirphonelines and it was the first time ever their lines were totally busy.  We had cellphone#'s of the execs and would call them daily to let them know 'DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUTCOMING INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD'.  After awhile, they realized we were too hostileand organized to deal with and they left w/their tails between their legs.  Talk aboutcelebration!  To this day, I can walk our streets and run into people I now considerfriends who joined us in that effort.  I envision the same happening here in our effortsto inform and educate everyone around us about how vaccines are dangerous, howeveryone has free choice, and to question those in charge.  Anything is possible, andI will be here to witness the drug cartel breaking up.  I realize it's a huge goal, but it's akinto a vs. Goliath battle, which can be won.  Fred, your steps are in lockstep w/mine and I encourage others to take this info and spreadit as far as possible.  I have a growing e-mail base of friends and colleagues and I regularlyput out info from the NVIC and other websites which are relevant to our cause.  Thank you to everyone involved in this effort.  Keep the faith and everyday devote time todoing your best to spread the word. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.

[Guest guest]

Start in your hometown.  Start with the people you know.  Build a group.  You have so many connections with many different professions.  You are better positioned than most of us.  Just start! On 11.01.2008, at 03:49, majestichealth@... wrote:Did you understand me when I suggested a special email..quite frankly that is not the way to go...we need to speak to each other some other way maybe via phone which can be done somehow...anyway they follow me and I know it...I am not giving up...too much that I went though or we went throuh and that is our thing..I know we can do it  if someone has a good suggestion let me know   we are from different states and areas and it is all the same...lets travel light as "Ella Fitzgerald' use to say and let me get back into my music from the Glenn Orchestra and lets try all walks of life...we can do it...  Re: Outline of Action PlanFred, you are awesome!!  A true kindred spirit.  I know there are many others out there who need to come forward and answer the call to stand up for their rights.  'Stand for something,or fall for anything' is another of my favorite quotes.  What you have said is so true and those in 'power' or so they think, are only using fear as that is the only tactic they're familiarwith.  However, we need to arm ourselves w/facts and a steadfast resolve to continue exposing those who speak lies.  A man's reputation is all he has and people in bureaucracies hate to have their egos trampled on.  I relish exposing these charlatansfor what they are and the more that people own their power and go out on a limb andstate the truth, then the tide will turn and they will respect our voices, ultimately.  I don't want them to fear us necessarily, but if that is what it takes, so be it.   Trudeau's example pointed out in a former e-mail was right on the money.  Canyou imagine a court scene where thousands of letters are literally brought in to supportthe defendant?  What a powerful visualization.  For those who haven't seen it yet, andthose who have, watch 'The Secret'.  I realize it's been out awhile, but the messagesput forth are powerful and the approaches discussed are ageless and they do work,believe me.  In our Walmart battle, we all collectively and individually visualized Walmartwalking away from the negotations table.  They ultimately gave up as they realized wewere a force to be reckoned with.  We weren't a huge community, but we had a voiceand we were not afraid to use it.  We played hardball and wore them down.  No ifs, andsor butts.  There was absolutely NO WAY, they were going to come into our neighborhood.We had 'support your local retailers day', where people were encouraged to shop at thelocal shops which displayed a 'Stop Elitch Walmart' sign in their window and a list of theseretailers was on our webpage.  We also had a 'call Walmart day' where we flooded theirphonelines and it was the first time ever their lines were totally busy.  We had cellphone#'s of the execs and would call them daily to let them know 'DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUTCOMING INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD'.  After awhile, they realized we were too hostileand organized to deal with and they left w/their tails between their legs.  Talk aboutcelebration!  To this day, I can walk our streets and run into people I now considerfriends who joined us in that effort.  I envision the same happening here in our effortsto inform and educate everyone around us about how vaccines are dangerous, howeveryone has free choice, and to question those in charge.  Anything is possible, andI will be here to witness the drug cartel breaking up.  I realize it's a huge goal, but it's akinto a vs. Goliath battle, which can be won.  Fred, your steps are in lockstep w/mine and I encourage others to take this info and spreadit as far as possible.  I have a growing e-mail base of friends and colleagues and I regularlyput out info from the NVIC and other websites which are relevant to our cause.  Thank you to everyone involved in this effort.  Keep the faith and everyday devote time todoing your best to spread the word. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.

[Guest guest]

Start in your hometown.  Start with the people you know.  Build a group.  You have so many connections with many different professions.  You are better positioned than most of us.  Just start! On 11.01.2008, at 03:49, majestichealth@... wrote:Did you understand me when I suggested a special email..quite frankly that is not the way to go...we need to speak to each other some other way maybe via phone which can be done somehow...anyway they follow me and I know it...I am not giving up...too much that I went though or we went throuh and that is our thing..I know we can do it  if someone has a good suggestion let me know   we are from different states and areas and it is all the same...lets travel light as "Ella Fitzgerald' use to say and let me get back into my music from the Glenn Orchestra and lets try all walks of life...we can do it...  Re: Outline of Action PlanFred, you are awesome!!  A true kindred spirit.  I know there are many others out there who need to come forward and answer the call to stand up for their rights.  'Stand for something,or fall for anything' is another of my favorite quotes.  What you have said is so true and those in 'power' or so they think, are only using fear as that is the only tactic they're familiarwith.  However, we need to arm ourselves w/facts and a steadfast resolve to continue exposing those who speak lies.  A man's reputation is all he has and people in bureaucracies hate to have their egos trampled on.  I relish exposing these charlatansfor what they are and the more that people own their power and go out on a limb andstate the truth, then the tide will turn and they will respect our voices, ultimately.  I don't want them to fear us necessarily, but if that is what it takes, so be it.   Trudeau's example pointed out in a former e-mail was right on the money.  Canyou imagine a court scene where thousands of letters are literally brought in to supportthe defendant?  What a powerful visualization.  For those who haven't seen it yet, andthose who have, watch 'The Secret'.  I realize it's been out awhile, but the messagesput forth are powerful and the approaches discussed are ageless and they do work,believe me.  In our Walmart battle, we all collectively and individually visualized Walmartwalking away from the negotations table.  They ultimately gave up as they realized wewere a force to be reckoned with.  We weren't a huge community, but we had a voiceand we were not afraid to use it.  We played hardball and wore them down.  No ifs, andsor butts.  There was absolutely NO WAY, they were going to come into our neighborhood.We had 'support your local retailers day', where people were encouraged to shop at thelocal shops which displayed a 'Stop Elitch Walmart' sign in their window and a list of theseretailers was on our webpage.  We also had a 'call Walmart day' where we flooded theirphonelines and it was the first time ever their lines were totally busy.  We had cellphone#'s of the execs and would call them daily to let them know 'DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUTCOMING INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD'.  After awhile, they realized we were too hostileand organized to deal with and they left w/their tails between their legs.  Talk aboutcelebration!  To this day, I can walk our streets and run into people I now considerfriends who joined us in that effort.  I envision the same happening here in our effortsto inform and educate everyone around us about how vaccines are dangerous, howeveryone has free choice, and to question those in charge.  Anything is possible, andI will be here to witness the drug cartel breaking up.  I realize it's a huge goal, but it's akinto a vs. Goliath battle, which can be won.  Fred, your steps are in lockstep w/mine and I encourage others to take this info and spreadit as far as possible.  I have a growing e-mail base of friends and colleagues and I regularlyput out info from the NVIC and other websites which are relevant to our cause.  Thank you to everyone involved in this effort.  Keep the faith and everyday devote time todoing your best to spread the word. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.

[Guest guest]

Dr. Lang, don't make the decision for other people.  I have talked to young doctors as well as older doctors.  I have found an open year with both.  I also found totally closed years with both.  Doesn't matter.  What matters is that you do something.  Do something.  Start.  Get the ball rolling.  I don't wait till the one you talked to does something.  Keep on going.  As you go you will get some people who want to help and learn.  If you wait you will be waiting still in a thousand years.  So, just get moving.On 11.01.2008, at 04:03, majestichealth@... wrote:Hi there I think that the most important people to work with us now are the DOCTORS...yes I have been there...done that...the difference now is that the younger docs know that the meds are not working...and can be educated...they are starting to HEAR us...we need to get to them first...I know I was just there tonight..All the NIC tests on the product for this woman with 2 stage 4 cancers breast, lung, & brain...some tumors are 3cm) was presented to her Oncologist by the patient..She said the National Cancer Insitute did studies on this product which is all natural...will he condone her taking it the day she starts radiation...I spoke with him, not attacking, I wanted to put him in contact with the scientist and gave him some valuable info that a major cancer center in Alabama who had done tests on over 6,000 patients in the past two years were going to put this product in as their major cancer treatment...does that say allot???????? I also told her doc to see the NIC  results...he told me that this product would cause her more problems with her breats cancer but when  I asked him if he knew of Haelan951...he never heard of it,...The patient is trying to make a good decision when he said he did not want her on it...People, she is making her own decision tonight after three treatments of radiation and forty tumors in her brain which were not there two weeks ago..I gave up tonight and let it go...I cannot hate...I must go on...this Doc said :Dr. Lang  I am sorry but I am going to a concert with my family!!!! So tonight I must go on and hope for more education...Dr. Debra Lang  Re: [no-forced-vaccinat ion] Outline of Action PlanI am back. Now let me try to put all this in as short an email as possible. There will be many questions about it. What I am trying to do is to give a rough outline first."We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with inherent and inalienable rights; that among these, are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness; that to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed; that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness." --Declaration of Independence as originally written by Jefferson, 1776. ME 1:29, Papers 1:315The above paragraph illustrates that people have the power and the right to change a destructive government. The federal government of the USA has become destructive to the American people as well as to people outside America. The American people have the right and the duty to change such a destructive government as they are ultimately responsible for the actions of their government. We also have to remember that every right has a duty attached to it. In other words, people are responsible.There are many instances in which the federal government is violating people's rights and freedoms which are:the freedoms of speech, press, and religion; the well-regulated militia's right to keep and bear arms; the freedom of assembly; the freedom to petition; and the rights to be free of unreasonable search and seizure; cruel and unusual punishment; and compelled self-incrimination.I don't know where to place the forced vaccination but it evidently is not a right of the government to impose forced medications of any kind. Governments will force the vaccinations on people as long as the pressure from the people is not strong enough to make the government abandon this tactic.How can this be done? How can government be forced to change this program?Let's ask how the government gets away with forced vaccinations. What are their most successful weapons the government is using against the people? Aren't they fear? Government threatens people with imprisonment - people fear imprisonment. Government threatens people with intimidation - people fear being intimidated by police, the courts, law suits, etc. Government is playing on human emotions.Now we have to realize that police officers, judges, lawyers, senators, government employees are also people. So are the officers with the SWAT team, the ambulance attendants, doctors, nurses, FDA employees, etc. They have the same emotions and uncertainties as everyone else. They also fear. And, they know when they do wrong.My program was based on these specifics.I had certain steps I followed every time I did a flyer campaign. They are as follows:- Let people involved know beforehand what you have in mind IF THEY CONTINUE WITH THEIR UNACCEPTABLE ACTIONS, in this case forced vaccinations.- Give the people involved a specified time to respond.- Ask people involved how they want to change their program or actions, or, how they intend to rectify the damage done.It is very important to give the people enough time to respond and to warn them beforehand of what they can expect if they continue with their unacceptable actions.If the people do not respond then go ahead within the outlined time limit and follow the specified actions without delay.What I would envision in the forced vaccination case is as follows:Get in touch with all the medical professionals you know are against forced vaccinations. Outline to them your ideas. Ask them to get in touch with their clients that are against forced vaccinations and people that have suffered from vaccinations. Get as many people involved as possible. Get them on a mailing list. Start an education campaign. Get them involved. Let them study the different vaccination websites - that is web sites for and against vaccinations. They will have to be familiar with both so that they can understand where the vaccination story is false, where they lie started. Let them know that Pasteur recanted on his death bed.Once you have enough people interested in participating there is one more part they have to understand, and that is the psychological aspect of this program. How do people react to exposure. Why does this program has to be executed in this manner. Why it will not work any other way. The flyers have to be written and have to be distributed by the people involved or by a professional delivery company. It is most successful if people distribute the flyers themselves because they are now involved, they have a stake in it. The flyers have to be written in a way that leaves no doubt as to what forced vaccination is and in general what vaccinations are and the purpose they are serving. In my opinion, and what I have studied and read about it, it has ONLY ONE PURPOSE AND THAT IS POPULATION CONTROL. And there are a number of examples which prove that this is so. All this has to get on the flyers and people in positions who advocate forced vaccinations have to be made aware of this. They have to be clear without a shadow of a doubt what awaits them if they continue with their program - they are following a program which results in premeditated murder.Let's assume that the people responsible for the forced vaccinations will not believe you and continue with their methods, which I doubt if the preparatory steps are done right, then you will have to write the flyers. It will not be one flyer, it will not be two flyers, there might be 20 or 30 or more flyers on the same case. You start with one flyer. A few days later the second flyer will be distributed with more information about vaccination. Then a third one. By that time the government will have taken some steps to counter your program. Then you will have to address this government action. I don't know what will happen. Somebody might get arrested. Whatever will happen you have to continue if you want to be successful. To dissolve a growing dictatorship is no easy task. If nothing is done America will cease to exist as it was known up to now. And the people will bear the responsibility because the people are ultimately responsible for the actions of their government. Americans do not realize yet how precarious their situation is.Now one might argue that it would be advisable to wait till Ron is president. Remember what happened to Kennedy? If the powers behind the scenes, the people who really pull the strings, decide that Ron has to go he will get murdered. That's the sad truth. What will or can they do when millions of people start to expose the crooks in government? Do you think that any of the flunkies in government will be willing to listen to the string pullers? I am sure they will not. This is the situation that has to be created. Government has to become afraid of the people again. That's when a country is healthy. That's when things are going the way they ought to run. But that only happens when people fulfill their responsibilities. Now keep in mind that not everyone will participate. But not everyone needs to participate. History has shown that with any major change only about 3% of the people take part. I believe that if you can mobilize 100000 people and up you have it made.There might be a lot of resistance to this program because it is exposing people and their CRIMINAL actions. Most people do not like to do this. There we have to realize that criminals cannot be dealt with in any other manner. They do not understand any other language.Now I have to make you aware of a new bill about before Congress, I believe, and it is H.R. 1955. You can google itOne more thing, about myself. If you have googled my name you might be under the impression that I am a radical or something like this. Don't forget that the corporate media has the great ability of slanting the truth, dispense half truth or half the story in such a way that the story is totally different than what it really is. Corporate media represents the interests of the government. As you well know, when you are on the opposite side of government you can be sure to be smeared, attacked, vilified, etc. I had a death threat uttered against me by two police officers a few years back. That didn't go anywhere because I made this public on flyers. There is always a way to counteract ANY government threats.This is a broad outline of my program I followed for many years with great success.It is up to the American people if they REALLY want to put and end to the criminal government actions against them. I would be more than willing to help you in any way I can.Fred KyburzOn 09.01.2008, at 16:44, majestichealth wrote: