Guest guest Posted March 28, 1999 Report Share Posted March 28, 1999 Hi All......sorry I messed up my response about polio vaccine!! I have never had polio vaccine. However I have received cholera, typhoid and yellow fever. Received cholera in 1970 and was deathly ill from it!! Carole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 1999 Report Share Posted March 28, 1999 candtcampbell@... wrote: > From: candtcampbell@... > > Marcia, > > Several months ago I saw an ABC News report of a study that concluded > that vaccination is correlated with autoimmune disease. It seems that in > being vaccinated we trade the risk of catastrophic infection for less > acute but long-term autoimmune disease including asthma. > > Tim Tim, I didn't see that news report. Wish I had, cause it sounds like it answered my questions. All the gulf war vets had many vaccines and the many nurses who have become ill can link it to a vaccine, of course STILL no one is admitting this to the general public. So if there is the possibility that we are all ill because our immune systems have been " altered " by vaccines, did they have any suggestions about how to LIVE with that??? Does that mean that our immune systems are permantently damaged and can not be repaired?, which would basically mean no hope for a cure. All we could then do would be do find treatments like the interferon that seem to do our immune systems work for us? Thanks for the info Tim! Marcia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 1999 Report Share Posted April 5, 1999 Hi, my doctor warned me , not to take any vaccines and flu shots. Nobody knows exactly what could happen to your immune system, which is out of balance with CFS. Bye, Stania -----Pùvodní zpráva----- Od: D. Tucker <cview@...> Komu: onelist <onelist> Kopie: cview@... <cview@...> Datum: 4. dubna 1999 22:43 Pøedmìt: Re: Rec. book >From: " D. Tucker " <cview@...> > > > >PS. I have a medical question. It is in your opinion desirable to get >regular vaccines ie yearly flu shots, pneumonia and or >tetanus vaccines? The latter one is given as you know every ten years. >Would it make our pain and fatigue worse??? >Do you know what the medical experts say ie Dr. Bell etc. THANK YOU FOR YOUR >INPUT. > > > > > Re: Rec. book > > >> From: GAILRONDA@... >> >> A great book for those interested in treatments is Chronic Fatigue >Syndrome: >> A Treatment Guide by a F. Verrillo and M. Gellman. >> >> The book tells you how to assess and monitor symptoms, treatments for >> specific symtoms, nutritional supplements, and coping strategies. >> Gail >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Is ONElist important to you? Has it changed your life? >> >> Come visit our new web site and share with us your stories >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each >other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment >discussed here, please consult your doctor. >> > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Come check out our brand new web site! > >Onelist: Making the Internet intimate >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 1999 Report Share Posted October 22, 1999 Internet is a great place for sharing info. 21st Century will bring many changes with many of us having choices we never thought possible. Medical profession does intimidate and still treats the general public as though its not capable of making health decisions. Problem is we all have to take the time to learn and share. Results will never be perfect. But we all know the medical profession is far from perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2000 Report Share Posted January 29, 2000 Autism & vaccines http://www.whale.to/Vaccines/autism.html Diseases & vaccines http://www.whale.to/Vaccines/diseases.html Hep B vaccines http://www.whale.to/Vaccines/hepatitis.html www.whale.to Vaccines From: " Whalen " <Whalen@...> Hi, I just joined this list yesterday, but I have been searching for information about the links between Hep B, Autism and Sensory Integration Dysfunction. After my child received his vaccination, he had a seizure, then was diagnosed during infancy with SID. --Which falls under the umbrella of Autism. Anyone with a similar experience? -le ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Please click above to support our sponsor ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2000 Report Share Posted March 10, 2000 If you can't sue the drug company who supplies the vaccine and it's so difficult to sue the goverment. Why not sue the FDA, they are the ones that approved that the vaccine was safe! But of course you will find it hard to get a doctor to testify that you did have an adverse reaction to the shot. But sooner or later someone is going to have to take responsibilty for all the soilders that have became ill after receiving the anthrax vaccine ! this craziness has got to stop ! Thanks! MoonCh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2000 Report Share Posted July 24, 2000 Vilik, Just a note of thanks for the links, this information in the cited form, and access to these sources are priceless. This information will now see many, many more people in this march of awareness!! Diane Vilik Rapheles wrote: > HREF= " http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/064615124X/ref=sim_books/102-0 > 385 > 493-7291342 " >Review at Amazon.com</A> > > by Viera Scheibner Ph.D. > > This book (published 1993) is a concise summary of the results of orthodox > medical research into vaccines and their effects. It aims to inform medical > professionals, parents and the general public about short and long-term > dangerous side-effects, including brain damage and death, of vaccines; of > the > ineffectiveness of vaccines in preventing infectious diseases, as shown by > epidemics in fully vaccinated populations; and the causal link between DPT > and polio vaccines and cot death. > > >>Dr Viera Scheibner, retired Principal Research Scientist for the NSW > >>Government with a doctorate in Natural Sciences, has published 3 books and > >>some 90 scientific papers in refereed scientific journals in Australia and > >>overseas during her distinguished career. > >> > >>She and her husband, Leif Karlsson, an electronic engineer specialising in > >>patient monitoring systems, developed Cotwatch, a true breathing monitor > >for > >>babies. Vaccination proved to be the most prominent stressful event to > >sound > >>the alarm. A microprocessor version of Cotwatch recording babies' > breathing > >>patterns presented the effect of vaccination clearly on the computer > >>print-outs and the link between vaccine injections and cot death became > >>painfully obvious. > >> > >>Following this finding, Dr Scheibner studied some 30,000 pages of medical > >>papers dealing with vaccination. She found no evidence that vaccines are > >safe > >>or effective. Vaccines are highly noxious. They contain formaldehyde, > >>aluminium phosphate, thiomersal (mercury compound), foreign proteins > >>(antigens) and contaminating animal proteins and viruses from the tissues > >>used as growth medium to culture the viral and bacterial components of > >>vaccines. None of these substances should ever be injected into human > >beings. > >>They erode the immune system and alter the immunological response to > >>diseases. > >> > >>The appearance of many new, autoimmune diseases like asthma, affecting > >>alarming numbers of children, childhood leukemia, and cancer, the enormous > >>upsurge in the incidence of cerebral palsy and infantile convulsions seen > >in > >>children of vaccination age and not before, should all be taken as serious > >>warnings. Infectious diseases contracted at the appropriate age and > allowed > >>to run their course are beneficial because they serve to prime and mature > >the > >>child's immune system. > >> > >>The overwhelming evidence from the numerous human clinical and > >>epidemiological studies cited by Dr Scheibner demonstrates beyond any > doubt > >>the dangers and ineffectiveness of vaccinations and her book is a most > >>valuable contribution towards exposing the myth of vaccinations. > >><A HREF= " http://www.pnc.com.au/~cafmr/rec_mats.html " >Other Books</A> > >> > >> H.L. Coulter, emptherapies@..., <A > >>HREF= " http://www.empiricaltherapies.com/ " >http://home.earthlink.net/~empth > e > >rap > >>ies/index.html</A> > >><A > >>HREF= " http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1556430841/o/qid=964317095/sr > = > >8-1 > >>/ref=aps_sr_b_1_1/102-0385493-7291342 " >Review at Amazon.com</A> > >>Vaccination, Social Violence and Criminality. '...It is the thesis of this > >>remarkable book that early vaccinations can result in mild cases of > >>sub-clinical encephalitis which, in turn, may well be responsible -- at > >least > >>in part -- for the increase in autism, hyperactivity, dyslexia, > sociopathy, > >>and developmental disabilities, a rise that roughly coincides with the > >>initiation of infant vaccinations. Coulter suggests further linkages to > the > >>increase in adolescent crime and suicide, and the decline in SAT scores.' > >>Stanley Kripner, AHP, January 1993. > > >><A > >>HREF= " http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1556430841/o/qid=964317095/sr > = > >8-1 > >>/ref=aps_sr_b_1_1/102-0385493-7291342 " >Review at Amazon.com Immunizations > : > >>The Terrible Risks Your Children Face That Your Doctor Won't Reveal by > > > >>S. Mendelsohn</A> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2000 Report Share Posted October 6, 2000 I agree with you Steve. Two months before the onset of my illness I had vaccinations to begin college. I KNOW that that had something to do with triggering my downward spiral. a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2000 Report Share Posted October 6, 2000 , I would not get the injection of the vaccine or any vaccine shots. Dr. Jay Goldstein believes a portion of CFS patients' illness is triggered by vaccine shots. I know that about 6 months before my illness became severe (it was very mild for several years and I never sought treatment), I had a polio vaccine injection prior to a trip to E. Europe. It may have been a coincidence but i will never have a vaccine injection again in my life. Steve B. vaccines > I was born in 1969 so the contaminated vaccine thing would not apply to me either.....but I do beleive that other vaccines could mess with the immune system in other ways....I have heard of antedotal reports of people becomeing chronicaly ill after receiving one! By the way does anybody on this list receive the flu shot? Also my doctor wants me to get the pnemoccocal vaccine---anybody have any thoughts on this?-she says my antibodies are not there and she is afraid I might get pneumonia...never have before but oh! well! > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2000 Report Share Posted October 6, 2000 a, It's too bad more people don't know about the possible triggering (not causing) of CFS or worsening of symptoms that may be caused by vacines. Steve B. Re: vaccines > I agree with you Steve. Two months before the onset of my illness I had > vaccinations to begin college. I KNOW that that had something to do with > triggering my downward spiral. a > > > > This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2000 Report Share Posted October 6, 2000 I am allergic to thymerosal, which is used as a preservative in many vaccines. This year I was told that there are no flu vaccines that are thymerosal free. I don't know if that is true of other types of vaccines, or if it is just in the area that I live. However, thymerosal has mercury in it, and for people who are already too toxic, especially who might be toxic from mercury, vaccines could make it worse just from that perspective alone. I also think that with an already overburdened immune system, as is the case with CFS, adding the effort needed to deal with the vaccine is an additional burden that could knock you all that much lower. (You have to weigh the likelihood of contracting the illness the vaccine is intended to prevent against the damage the vaccine itself causes) This is one of the reasons I feel that using vaccines especially for people who are already frail from old age, immune dysfunction, or small children, is a big mistake. Better to keep them more isolated, which unfortunately, isn't possible in day care and nursing home settings. However, as it was, the flu that originally hit me at the beginning of this CFS episode didn't have a vaccine available for it, it wasn't anticipated, but if a vaccine had been available, I would be really kicking myself for having not gotten it, even with the thymerosal, after going through all that I have since then. So it's hard to decide which is worse, to vaccinate or not to vaccinate. My son had a severe reaction to his DPT vaccination when he was little, and we've decided to avoid further Pertussis vaccines for him because of the severity of his reaction. Only in later years did we learn that the company that made the vaccine knew that it was causing severe, sometimes deadly reactions in children because of faulty manufacturing, and they continued using tainted batches. It makes me a little leery of vaccine manufacturers to this day. lindaj@... Re: vaccines > I agree with you Steve. Two months before the onset of my illness I had > vaccinations to begin college. I KNOW that that had something to do with > triggering my downward spiral. a > > > > This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2000 Report Share Posted October 6, 2000 I hope I can get my immune system to the point someday of being able to handle vaccines. It's my lifelong dream to go to Africa. I have all the money saved. I accept that it will be a long time, but hopefully someday... Not sure what to do about the flu shot this year. Traditionally I have gotten it. Cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2000 Report Share Posted October 6, 2000 , From my reading Thimerasol is 90% organic mercury. I just am coming thru hell from a tetanus shot that was preserved with Thimerasol. I would consider that *everyone* is " allergic " to mercury. > I am allergic to thymerosal, which is used as a preservative in many > vaccines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2000 Report Share Posted October 7, 2000 most countries, at least in southern africa, no longer *require* any vaccines. I eventually gave up carring my vaccine card around when I lived there, as I was never asked for it. There are not actually that many illnesses that you would really be at risk to get that have really effective vaccines. The big problem is malaria, and there is still no vaccine past trial stage for that. Just my own opinion from living there for ten years. Matt > I hope I can get my immune system to the point someday of being able to > handle vaccines. It's my lifelong dream to go to Africa. I have all the > money saved. I accept that it will be a long time, but hopefully > someday... > > Not sure what to do about the flu shot this year. Traditionally I have > gotten it. > > Cindi > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2000 Report Share Posted October 7, 2000 My youngest son (19 yrs old) is disabled as a direct result of vaccination (this was pre any publicity on dangers of triple antigen - back in 1981). If I had had another child, I would still have had him or her vaccinated, but only when the child was guarante-ably fully well (no colds in family etc). In retrospect, Simon was possibly coming down with a cold, but the Dr gave him the shot anyway (I'd taken his older brother to the dr for a bad cough, and Simon was along for the ride. He was overdue for his 3rd shot but I had been putting it off because he had had a bad reaction the time before). Anyway, the moral of this story is (I believe) don't ever have a vaccination if your health is in any way compromised. And to me, active CFS is definitely what I would call 'compromised'. The reasoning is that vaccinations are designed to challenge your system, but such challenge can be disastrous if your system is not up to the challenge. Kerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2000 Report Share Posted October 7, 2000 Al, I've said before that McVey should have driven a little further east. Steve B. Re: vaccines > > > > , > > > > >From my reading Thimerasol is 90% organic mercury. I just am coming thru > > hell from a tetanus shot that was preserved with Thimerasol. I would > > consider that *everyone* is " allergic " to mercury. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am allergic to thymerosal, which is used as a preservative in many > > > vaccines > > > > > > > > > > This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each > other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment > discussed here, please consult your doctor. > > > > > > > > This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2000 Report Share Posted October 7, 2000 The CDC is in charges of vaccines, After reading this no wonder the CDC is also known as the Center for Disease Creation ! Al Re: vaccines > , > > >From my reading Thimerasol is 90% organic mercury. I just am coming thru > hell from a tetanus shot that was preserved with Thimerasol. I would > consider that *everyone* is " allergic " to mercury. > > > > > > > I am allergic to thymerosal, which is used as a preservative in many > > vaccines > > > > > This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2000 Report Share Posted October 7, 2000 From: Parkinson [mailto:keripar@...] <snip> Anyway, the moral of this story is (I believe) don't ever have a vaccination if your health is in any way compromised. And to me, active CFS is definitely what I would call 'compromised'. The reasoning is that vaccinations are designed to challenge your system, but such challenge can be disastrous if your system is not up to the challenge. Kerry [Patti] Kerry, I just wanted to echo your message. Currently, all vaccines push the body further into a humorally-mediated state of immunity. That's what they were *DESIGNED* to do. Most, if not all, PWCs are already too deep into that state. Until and unless there are vaccines that stimulate cell-mediated immunity (CMI), I will never have another vaccine. There's plenty of evidence that the dramatic rise of asthma, allergies, and other illnesses are due to so many vaccines. All these diseases are humorally mediated, and all we do is get more vaccines to push us further into that immune state. I found out that I was in a complete state of *ANERGY* (state of complete humoral immunity and no cellular immunity at all) before I started working on raising my CMI. No wonder I got ill right after all those vaccines I got for the Gulf War!!! I have read that some researchers are working on CMI-based vaccines but who knows how long, if ever, we will have to wait until they are available. -Patti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2000 Report Share Posted October 7, 2000 From: canderson@... [mailto:canderson@...] I hope I can get my immune system to the point someday of being able to handle vaccines. It's my lifelong dream to go to Africa. I have all the money saved. I accept that it will be a long time, but hopefully someday... [Patti] My brother has spent the last couple years in Africa (on an off - he's lived in Cabinda, Luanda, Point Noire and Port Gentile). One of the places he was living (I think that was Cabinda) was just a few miles from where the incident in the movie " outbreak " occurred. He never took any vaccines and has never been sick (after seeing what happened to me after taking the Gulf War vaccines and also how I deteriorated after pneumonia and flu vaccines - he refuses to ever have another vaccine). Personally I've always had more trouble from the supposed " cure " than from the illness itself. *every* time I got the flu vaccine I got the flu. I got the pneumonia vaccine and got pneumonia twice after that (I've had pneumonia 7 times) Gulf War vaccines and ended up with CFS/Fibro/MCS/GWS. My brother and I both had horrible reactions to the meds you take for malaria prevention. He was living in New Guinea at the time. He had double vision so bad he couldn't read anymore and had horrible migraines and other symptoms that I've forgotten. He finally said, getting malaria must be better for me than what ever this medicine is doing to give me all these neurological symptoms, so he stopped taking the medicine. Of course he got malaria, but he said that was far easier to tolerate than the meds. I had a similar experience. Was taking antimalarials before going to the Burmese/Thai border area (the shan states). I started getting getting the same symptoms as my brother and decided to stop. I got malaria too, but again, that was a piece of cake compared to the neurological effects I was getting from the " cure " . Who knows, maybe the trip will cure you. Mark Konlee, in one of his newsletters, tells of a guy who had end stage AIDS. He had always wanted to go to S. America. Since he was dying he decided to go anyway. He bought a one-way ticket, fully expecting to die there. When he got there he ended up living with a tribe along a river. They ate coconuts all day, coconut porridge for breakfast and coconut milk in everything else. This guy started feeling better and better. Eventually he figured he must be cured, but then didn't have any money to go back to the US. Eventually contacted friends who wired him money. When he came back to the states, he had no evidence of the virus at all. Patti -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2000 Report Share Posted October 7, 2000 From: hudecz [mailto:hudecz@...] I was born in 1969 so the contaminated vaccine thing would not apply to me either.....but I do beleive that other vaccines could mess with the immune system in other ways....I have heard of antedotal reports of people becomeing chronicaly ill after receiving one! By the way does anybody on this list receive the flu shot? [Patti] Not anymore! I finally figured out that every time I got the shot I got the flu and was sick all winter. When I stopped getting flu shots I stopped getting the flu (and I stopped having sinus infections all winter also!). Also my doctor wants me to get the pnemoccocal vaccine---anybody have any thoughts on this?-she says my antibodies are not there and she is afraid I might get pneumonia...never have before but oh! well! [Patti] My doctor gave me the same line of bull & # & *%. I got the pneumonia vaccine and got pneumonia later that year and the next year as well. Didn't do me a bit of good. Problem is, the docs don't understand the difference between the two sides of the immune system. If you have hyperactive humoral immunity (as most or all with CFS do) then you almost cannot get pneumonia. If you go to med-line and type in key words vaccine and CMI (or cell mediated immunity) you will read research summaries that will curl your toes and make you swear off vaccines for life. Or read one of Dr. Horowitz's books on vaccines and how most of them are contaminated. -Patti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2000 Report Share Posted October 7, 2000 >Not sure what to do about the flu shot this year. Traditionally I have >gotten it. > >Cindi It may be a moot point anyway since they are saying that it will be in low supply this year anyway and hard to get even if you WANT it. -Theresa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2000 Report Share Posted November 1, 2000 In a message dated 11/1/00 11:39:30 AM Eastern Standard Time, skybyrd@... writes: << If you want to find out about harmful effects of vaccines go to the website of Null. >> Hi, Thanks for the link, my husband is a big fan of his. The biggest wake-up call concerning vaccinations to me was that the pharmaceutical companies have no liability for vaccine deaths or injuries. If something happens - the taxpayer pays. I have never heard of such a lenient policy with any other manufacturer before. Imagine the taxpayer taking responsibility for every injury caused by a faulty product - automobile companies, food industry, etc. Below is an article from Barry Forbes: From Barry Forbes - Tribune Columnist >The number of adverse reactions and deaths associated with vaccines have been >so onerous that the feds set up the U.S. National Vaccine Injury Compensation >Program (NVICP). Conveniently, profitably, that shifted the liability from >the pharmaceutical companies and physicians onto the backs of the U.S. >taxpayer. > >Every year since 1988, NVICP has paid out more than $90 million in taxpayer >dollars for vaccine-related injuries and deaths. The pay-out is approaching >$1 billion: a backlog of 2,000 cases are yet to be heard. Meanwhile, >thousands of new victims are created with every passing year. >Dotsie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2000 Report Share Posted November 11, 2000 In a message dated 11/10/00 11:49:03 PM Mountain Standard Time, TabMTBC@... writes: << Yes it's true--and the MMR vaccine has formaldehyde in it. A nurse friend of mine says it's right there on the package labeling (you know the stuff with the teeny print) if you know where to look. And they are now finding out that a lot of those vaccines have such additives and poisonous materials. That's why I have elected not to have my children vaccinated--that and the fact that most vaccines weaken the immune system, not strengthen it as is commonly believed. >> Interesting. When I was in high school about 100 years ago, I found out, while taking biology, that I was allergic to formaldehyde. About 8 years ago I was working to a company whose owner was very ill and on kidney dialysis. They asked us to take a flu shot since he was in so much danger of infection. About a year later my first severe symptoms of fibromyalgia started. One interesting thing to me and to my homeopathic doctor was that a had severe pain in the exact pin point location of that flu shot. It was just as if I had just had the shot and was having a severe reaction locally. Left arm, no other reason for pain in a dime sized area. My views on further vaccinations for me have certainly changed. I support those who do not vaccinate their children. My children are four footed and furry. And yes, I do keep them fully vaccinated. They are in a multi animal situation and I do give a strong health guarantee on my kittens and puppies. I know it doesn't make sense, but at this time I find it is necessary to vaccinate keep them free of respiratory infections. They are all well and healthy and I have not had any illness in several years. But since new kittens are here at any given time, I still keep everyone current and up to date. Since they are out in the show world and exposed to viruses that could be fatal, I think it is the prudent thing to do. Pam in ID Pamacs Selkirk Rex Home of GRCH Pamacs Winnie The Blue The first CFA Grand Champion Selkirk Rex Check out my home page at http://hometown.aol.com/sharpcats/myhomepage/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2000 Report Share Posted November 11, 2000 > Interesting. When I was in high school about 100 years ago, I found out, > while taking biology, that I was allergic to formaldehyde. About 8 years ago > I was working to a company whose owner was very ill and on kidney dialysis. > They asked us to take a flu shot since he was in so much danger of infection. > About a year later my first severe symptoms of fibromyalgia started. One > interesting thing to me and to my homeopathic doctor was that a had severe > pain in the exact pin point location of that flu shot Pam, I found this very interesting as I did not believe in the flu shot until after I contacted fibromyalgia. Before the shot everytime I would come into contact with a virus I lost control of my muscles. Literally could not walk. After I started getting the flu shot it kept those viruses at bay and along with managing the fibro with nutrition I do not get the severe muscle weakness any more. It could be the nutrition but now I am afraid not to get the shot as I don't want to find out the answer if it is not the one I want. (As if that makes any sense). I do not have any reactions to the shot and in fact have actually felt better at times after getting it. Just goes to show how different people can be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2000 Report Share Posted November 14, 2000 Dear Pam and all O's I'm back in the office just for another few days and will be out for some time again. Feeling well at the moment after spending some time travelling to various parts in SA. Going through a bit of emotional turmoil at the moment as the love of my life my little miniature doberman pinture was taken from my house whilst I was gone - leaving my son and helper at home devastated as Snoepie was left with them. Also had a dear friend who passed away from aids. Also still dealing with a bit of emotional issues after the India trip. Gues it all makes us stronger at the end of the day - hope so as at the moment am sort of just floating through it all - the sun will shine again some time. All the best to all of you Pam please just forward your address to me again so that I can have it to send the goodies from India to you. Best wishes to all Elize South Africa >>> Sharpcats@... 11/11/00 04:31PM >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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