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, I slept extremely well at first and was very grateful since I had

been sleeping poorly for years. After a few weeks I started waking up

several times every night. Melatonin to the rescue... I take 3mg at bedtime

most nights and sleep like a far more innocent person. If my sinuses are

hurting I'll take a half a Benadryl instead, but I feel kind of groggy the

following morning and very thirsty. I do rest awfully well though on the

Benadryl nights. With the Melatonin I'll wake up if my hands go to sleep,

which they do quite often at night now, but I have no trouble going back to

sleep. On the Benadryl nights nothing wakes me up. Well, my little dog

still manages to rouse me enough to lift the covers so he can get under

them. He does persevere...

(MS)

M.E.B.

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From: " carrie_landau " <CLANDAU@...>

<low dose naltrexone >

Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 7:39 PM

Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Sleeping

> During my first six weeks on LDN, I had trouble falling asleep and

> would wake up several times a night. Then I began sleeping really

> well. That's lasted for over three months. Lately, however, in my

> fifth month of LDN, insomnia has returned, particularly in the form

> of having a hard time falling asleep.

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> Anyone else have this experience on LDN? Thanks.

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You may find you no longer need the Tylenol to sleep. Try the ldn without tylenol for a few weeks. I f you have insomnia take the tylenol evry few nights so that you can tell if the ldn is finally giving you the sleep it should. It took 17 days of insomnia, but once the ldn kicked in, I am sleeping better than I have in 8 yrs. (actually I am sleeping for the first time in 8 yrs!!)

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You should not use any medicines derived from opium. Tylenol PM is fine.

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From: kidbunch2000

low dose naltrexone

Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 12:12 AM

Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Sleeping

Question:I have been diagnosed with MS about 4 years ago. I am currently using Copaxone as my prescribed medication. Question I have is I will be using LDN soon, I sometimes use Night Time Tylenol to help get to sleep. Can I use the LDN with the Tylenol?Thanks

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Yes by all means as I did for months ,off and on, and have had no problems.Now seven months later I sleep like the dead.

Reg.

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Date: 06/21/04 01:12:50

low dose naltrexone

Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Sleeping

Question:I have been diagnosed with MS about 4 years ago. I am currently using Copaxone as my prescribed medication. Question I have is I will be using LDN soon, I sometimes use Night Time Tylenol to help get to sleep. Can I use the LDN with the Tylenol?Thanks

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--- In low dose naltrexone , " kidbunch2000 " <michael.catling@a...>

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> Question:

> I have been diagnosed with MS about 4 years ago. I am currently using

> Copaxone as my prescribed medication. Question I have is I will be

> using LDN soon, I sometimes use Night Time Tylenol to help get to

> sleep. Can I use the LDN with the Tylenol?

> Thanks

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You certainly can use it. No interaction with LDN at all.

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--- In low dose naltrexone , " kidbunch2000 " <michael.catling@a...>

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> Question:

> I have been diagnosed with MS about 4 years ago. I am currently using

> Copaxone as my prescribed medication. Question I have is I will be

> using LDN soon, I sometimes use Night Time Tylenol to help get to

> sleep. Can I use the LDN with the Tylenol?

> Thanks

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You certainly can use it. No interaction with LDN at all.

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Being new to the list how do I acquire and start LDN?

thank you.

Ervin McCarthy

----- Original Message -----

From: noclue915@...

low dose naltrexone

Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 8:50 AM

Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Sleeping

You may find you no longer need the Tylenol to sleep. Try the ldn without tylenol for a few weeks. I f you have insomnia take the tylenol evry few nights so that you can tell if the ldn is finally giving you the sleep it should. It took 17 days of insomnia, but once the ldn kicked in, I am sleeping better than I have in 8 yrs. (actually I am sleeping for the first time in 8 yrs!!)

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> Thank you for your encouragement about my sleeping pattern. I

> really, really needed some encouragement cause the fatigue that comes

> with no sleep is getting unbearable. I will keep with it (LDN)..

Kathy H

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cherie

that is such great news! I hope it continues because it sure is alot

better for you to get to sleep without meds!

love, kathy

-- In , " Cherie " <cheriesut@y...> wrote:

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> Two nights in a row of sleeping with no assistance from sleeping

pill.

> Yippeee!! I think it was the magnesium - thanks Rogene!!

> Cherie

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Wonderful Cherie,

According to Dr. Mannsman, who got me through my

burning feet problem with his recommendations for

Magnesium, you take Magnesium to the point you develop

diarrhea . . . then start backing down until it

reoccurs . . . back down some more, etc. until you

reach a point where you are taking as much as possible

without diarrhea. . . (remember to take two parts

Calcium to every one part Magnesium)

The most accurate test for Magnesium levels is the

wasting test. There, one is dosed with a given amount

of magnesium. Urine is collected for 24 hours, then

tested to see how much Magnesium is passed. The body

will absorb as much Magnesium as it needs. The

difference between the intake and what is passed

determines if one is deficient in Magnesium.

You can get a lot more information at this website:

http://www.magnesiumresearchlab.com/Dosing-with-Mg-Suppl-6-3-04.htm

Dr. Mannsman will answer questions privately . . .

just don't pester him.

Hugs,

Rogene

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Hey Cherie - I might just have to try magnesium, too, as I haven't

slept well in about a month.

Sis

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> Two nights in a row of sleeping with no assistance from sleeping

pill.

> Yippeee!! I think it was the magnesium - thanks Rogene!!

> Cherie

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I went out and bought a CD alarm clock and several CD's designed to be

relaxing and help you fall to sleep. They didn't work for me, because I

kept thinking I had to keep listening until it was over. Therefore, I

had to stay awake until it was over, LOL.

Sue

On Sunday, January 22, 2006, at 11:31 AM, lynn8953 wrote:

> I AHVE HAD INSOMNIA FOR YEARS I FINALLY FOUND A SLEEP SYSTEM

> MEDITATION CD TO

> PLAY WHILE I LAY IN BED--HONEST TO GOD I HAVE NEVER MADE IT TO THE END

> WITHOUT

> FALLING ASLEEP--ITS LIKE A MIRACLE....LYNN

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i've *never* been able to sleep through the night . . . . any

suggestions would be welcome <g>

tia, bonnie/boys

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Same here , up by 2:30 am every night and for 3or 4 nights in a row till I get so tired I just sleep , But it's still just twist and turn up and down .john----- Original Message ----From: bonniebaron <bonniebaron@...>Rheumatoid Arthritis Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 3:48:32 PMSubject: sleeping

i've *never* been able to sleep through the night . . . . any

suggestions would be welcome <g>

tia, bonnie/boys

> > > > To take care of a flare a lot of us

> > > > use Prednisone. That is a strong

> > anti-inflammatory

> > > > that usually acts quickly to help the symptoms

> > of

> > > > RA. It has some bad side effects when used for

> > long

> > > > periods at high doses so we usually try to get

> > off

> > > > it again as soon as we can, but it really does

> > help

> > > > us to function when we need it.

> > > >

> > > > Another thing to consider is antibiotic therapy.

> > > > That uses a medication such as Minocycline. You

> > can

> > > > read about that on the Roadback Foundation

> > website.

> > > > God bless.

> > > >

> > > >

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> > > > To:

> >

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> > > > Subject: [sPAM] [rheumatoid_ arthritis] I'm New

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> > > > the group...

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Hi! My name is Alondra, I'm 24, and was

> > > > diagnosed with RA in 2004.

> > > > Though RA is not my only problem, I was

> > diagnosed in

> > > > 2001 with LUPUS

> > > > and then last year with Autoimmune Hepatitis.

> > Not

> > > > the best

> > > > combination.

> > > >

> > > > Reason I decided join was because I need help, I

> > > > need advice, I was

> > > > taken off of my enbrel 2 weeks ago because it

> > caused

> > > > my liver to flare

> > > > up, and since there is no medication in my

> > system my

> > > > RA is flaring

> > > > with a vengeance.

> > > >

> > > > Is there anything that you guys do to alleviate

> > the

> > > > pain?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks

> > > > Alondra

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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I have a suggestion for you if you find many medicines not so

effective to cure the disease. My aunt was suffering from the pain

caused by RA. At first, she did try many treatments but none of them

were really effective in relieving the pain. Those medicines cost her a

lot of money and she was unable to work at all due to this disease. But

later, she was referred to try this medicine and we were all surprised

to see her completely recover from the pain. She was able to get back

to work again since then. I hope this medicine can work on you as well

and if you want to learn about this med, I will contact my aunt. Hope

you get better no matter what.

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My girl use to have this sleeping issues.

when she used Famvir she began sleeping better, then we change to Valtrex and

she began waking up at 4am again, returning to famvir she is sleeping fine

again.

My feeling is that when the virus is a under control, she sleeps much better.

Also, she uses to have 15 days to get adapted to any increase or new medicine.

>

> My grandson in the past month bed at 9:00 p.m. 10:00 p.m. wakes up at 2:00

a.m. stays awake til 5-5:30a.m. then awake a 8:30 a.m. This isn`t enough sleep

for a child his age last nite he stayed overnite didn`t go to sleep til 11:00

p.m.

> Not eating one of the reasons(I think due to to tired to sleep)he may sleep 1

night because he is so exhausted.

> Dr. Goldberg says take 2 benadryl before bed. he also takes 1/4 tab. tenex.

> The only recent changes has been on prozac for 1 1/2 months (just inc. dose)

& changed to acyclovir to valtrex.

> Has anyone have these sleep & eating problems with their child?

> Thanks

> Carole

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> > My grandson in the past month bed at 9:00 p.m. 10:00 p.m. wakes up at 2:00

a.m. stays awake til 5-5:30a.m. then awake a 8:30 a.m. This isn`t enough sleep

for a child his age last nite he stayed overnite didn`t go to sleep til 11:00

p.m.

> > Not eating one of the reasons(I think due to to tired to sleep)he may sleep

1 night because he is so exhausted.

> > Dr. Goldberg says take 2 benadryl before bed. he also takes 1/4 tab. tenex.

> > The only recent changes has been on prozac for 1 1/2 months (just inc.

dose) & changed to acyclovir to valtrex.

> > Has anyone have these sleep & eating problems with their child?

> > Thanks

> > Carole

> >

>

My grandson has been on valtrex for 16 days now still not sleeping.

He was on famvir still had sleep issues but not everyday like he is now. I am

sure your right about the virus under control.

I think does not have enough melatonin ect to help with sleep too.

Thanks for your reply. How long was she on valtrex?

Carole

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