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Please please be careful with the ammonia! That is one of the chemicals that

made me really sick initially. I cannot tolerate ammonia at all and can tell

when it's been used to wash something days after. It's the reason why I can't go

into most stores and when an employee starts spraying down a table in a

restaurant with Windex I have to run.

I really understand how this illness is so different in everybody-years ago I

recommended bleach to clean mold and was told by many that they couldn't

tolerate bleach. It was news to me because I was always fine with it but it

taught me that everyone reacts on a very personal level.

>

> I cross contaminated my car as well when moving from a moldy house. My car

wasn't old either. I filed an insurance claim and guy came to look at the car

and said he could smell the mold. Finally after hours of researching...ammonia

diluted in water....sprayed in all air vents and inside of car totally wiped

down...seemed to help. Before the ammonia I thought I was going to lose my car

because to drive it made me completely sick. Would someone tell Dave to use

ammonia diluted with water in spray bottle. Dryclean all clothes then wash

clothes with 1 cup of ammonia plus reg. detergent. (any wool clothes can not be

saved) Physically clean all personal items which can be saved (like plastics,

glass, etc) with ammonia water. If I had known what I know now I would have just

walked away from the property leaving behind all personal belongings. Because

the time, trouble and money spent to save " what little " I did... could have just

purchased new items. All paper

> products gone....forget them. Lost 256 books, sofa, chair, wooded

entertainment center, two mattresses, heaters, the list goes on and on, not to

mention the loss of health. But....the ammonia....played powerful role in

helping me recover. I had skin lesions and Dr. Croft recommended to add one cup

of ammonia to my bath water. It helped me along with anti fungals. Which can be

purchased on-line (with out prescription) if doctors won't help you or call you

crazy. Be sure to research for drug interactions with any drugs you're currently

on before taking anti fungals. I spent weeks researching anti fungals and making

sure the drugs I am currently taking would not interact or cause problems for me

if I take a certain anti fungal.  I'm not giving medical advice but I am sick

of doctors not knowing or not telling people how to help themselves. Then you

actually see advise to use bleach to clean up mold....which is one of the worse

things to use. I was on my

> own with this. But this site helped me so much. I am slowing getting my life

back and I am in a lawsuit with landlord. We must press forward with lawsuits

until the truth is told, no matter if we win or not. It is the way to start

getting attention to this matter. I will never forget and nor will my son who

now has MS. I will bang on tables, I will file lawsuits, I will write letters, I

will beat on doors....and I will never hand my life or my sons life over to some

myco toxin producing fungi ....so help me God. I can't tell you the days I

wanted to commit suicide during this horrific experience but for Dave and anyone

else out there going through this remember that....you are a survivor, think for

yourself, research research research, fight, clean, detox, clean some more,

there is a reason for this happening to you. You are chosen because you can be

trusted to help others, so never give up, never give in and NEVER FORGET.

>

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Thank you for such a heart felt post. You have no idea how depressed I am. As I

stated earlier my mom was here for the holidays and she constantly had a runny

nose the entire time. There was one night where her eyes were beet red because

they were burning so bad and at one point she said she had something lodge in

her throat but wasnt eating or drinking anything. My brother in law has been

constantly sneezing and on the night my niece was here she had an unexplainable

headache that just wouldn't go away.

Now that my mom's home I called her and asked her about her nose and she said

it's fine, it was a little runny the first day that she got home but now that

she's been back for 3 days she's not having any problems with it. My brother in

law and sister have been out of town on vacation since Monday so Im not sure how

he's doing but I'd venture to guess he's not sneezing and as far as I know my

nieces headache has gone away.

For the most part I don't see this getting any better if anything it's only

going to get worst. If I cant get my sisters house remediated its going to

ultimately cost anyone who spends anytime here their health. To add insult to

injury I don't know who to turn to help me through these trying times. Everyone

I talk to tells me different scenarios on how to correct the problem. One

company says to beings theres just mold spores and not mold fog the place while

theres another that says to use the Ozone method. Like I said everyone I've

talked to has a different way of remediating the problem so Im not sure what to

do.

>

>

> I dont think anyone is saying that cross contamination isnt possable.

> I know myself it is, but you have to put a perspective on it. no one can say

for a fact that dave cross contaminated his sisters house, we aren't there, we

dont know just how bad his house is contaminated,

> and part of the brain effects can cause you to be somewhat over reactive,

depressed, and just not thinking to great during that time

> when everything on top of being very ill just hits you like a ton of bricks.

> as far as daves situation, I hope no

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Well said , wonderful post...

>

> I cross contaminated my car as well when moving from a moldy house. My car

wasn't old either. I filed an insurance claim and guy came to look at the car

and said he could smell the mold. Finally after hours of researching...ammonia

diluted in water....sprayed in all air vents and inside of car totally wiped

down...seemed to help. Before the ammonia I thought I was going to lose my car

because to drive it made me completely sick. Would someone tell Dave to use

ammonia diluted with water in spray bottle. Dryclean all clothes then wash

clothes with 1 cup of ammonia plus reg. detergent. (any wool clothes can not be

saved) Physically clean all personal items which can be saved (like plastics,

glass, etc) with ammonia water. If I had known what I know now I would have just

walked away from the property leaving behind all personal belongings. Because

the time, trouble and money spent to save " what little " I did... could have just

purchased new items. All paper

> products gone....forget them. Lost 256 books, sofa, chair, wooded

entertainment center, two mattresses, heaters, the list goes on and on, not to

mention the loss of health. But....the ammonia....played powerful role in

helping me recover. I had skin lesions and Dr. Croft recommended to add one cup

of ammonia to my bath water. It helped me along with anti fungals. Which can be

purchased on-line (with out prescription) if doctors won't help you or call you

crazy. Be sure to research for drug interactions with any drugs you're currently

on before taking anti fungals. I spent weeks researching anti fungals and making

sure the drugs I am currently taking would not interact or cause problems for me

if I take a certain anti fungal.  I'm not giving medical advice but I am sick

of doctors not knowing or not telling people how to help themselves. Then you

actually see advise to use bleach to clean up mold....which is one of the worse

things to use. I was on my

> own with this. But this site helped me so much. I am slowing getting my life

back and I am in a lawsuit with landlord. We must press forward with lawsuits

until the truth is told, no matter if we win or not. It is the way to start

getting attention to this matter. I will never forget and nor will my son who

now has MS. I will bang on tables, I will file lawsuits, I will write letters, I

will beat on doors....and I will never hand my life or my sons life over to some

myco toxin producing fungi ....so help me God. I can't tell you the days I

wanted to commit suicide during this horrific experience but for Dave and anyone

else out there going through this remember that....you are a survivor, think for

yourself, research research research, fight, clean, detox, clean some more,

there is a reason for this happening to you. You are chosen because you can be

trusted to help others, so never give up, never give in and NEVER FORGET.

>

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I agree with you Jeannine. Dr. Rea does not really focus on one contaminant or

exposure. Its all about the total body burden and detoxing to get the body clear

of those toxins. I did his protocal for over a year, and he detoxes everyone

pretty much the same way regardless of what the exposure was. I do believe that

is why so many of us moldies have MCS. Our bodies are overloaded and cannot deal

with anything more...

>

> I know a guy that got MCS from his work, he was around several chemicals all

day, this was 2003, his company sent him to Dr. Rhea

> and he was put on disability. liveing not to far from him and right across the

road from a very moldy smelling shed that I had problems with, I wondered if it

was his shed that made him sick.

> but I lived there about a year and very seldom seen him go to that shed or

spend considerable time there.

> I realized that the mold problem with that shed was probably in part because

it wasn't mantained,possable lack of use.

> It became clear to me that MCS could be caused by chemicals/toxins and it's

not just mold and it's byproducts that cause this.

> and now that I have a good understanding of how the mucus system works and how

the mucosa lineings can get damaged, I have a better understanding of why dose

is so important.

>

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Hi Diane,

Was Dr. Rea able to help you? What are the basics of his detox protocol?

thanks, sue

>I agree with you Jeannine. Dr. Rea does not really focus on one

>contaminant or exposure. Its all about the total body burden and

>detoxing to get the body clear of those toxins. I did his protocal for

>over a year, and he detoxes everyone pretty much the same way regardless

>of what the exposure was. I do believe that is why so many of us moldies

>have MCS. Our bodies are overloaded and cannot deal with anything more...

>

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