Guest guest Posted December 7, 2008 Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 I don’t think the Insurance companies are to blame… they struggle to comply with regulations and legal traps that Big Pharma and the Psychiatric profession creates… The policies are legal agreements and sometimes these are difficult to bend and if bent become a loophole. With the new laws on making mental health treatment equal to medical treatment be ready to see your premiums skyrocket since it has been obvious that if your policy paid 2 month for mental health treatment the treatment took 2 months. If it covered 6 months the treatment took 6 months and so on… now with no policy limit difference for mental health… well you get the idea. Add to that the cost of drugs and you can see that the insurance companies are not happy with the cards they are being dealt. And the insurance companies in 2000 were mandated to increase their loss reserves by 3X. These are moneys that they can’t spend… those that invested this money in shady mortgages are now losing their shirts. Now the Insurance companies are not goody goody guys either… they pay the best lawyers to help them make their contracts tight so that they can be profitable. Dennis From: no-forced-vaccination [mailto:no-forced-vaccination ] On Behalf Of elaine henderson Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 8:52 PM no-forced-vaccination Subject: Re: Re: OT: FDA Reluctantly Admits Mercury Fillings Have Neurotoxic Effects on Children as far as i am concerned, the insurance companies are just as bad as the government / meds. i enhaled a toothfeeling in 1998ish which landed in my right lung. after the medical staff tried to suction it out (local hospital in spokane, wa) i ended up having to have it surgically removed. the right lung was 1/2 to 2/3's full of abysess and infection and 12 days in the hospital. the filling was one of the older fillings from back in the 60's or 70's. it took an ex-ray to find the stupid filling. can you imagine what could have happened if it went undetected? elaine h. From: paoluccm <flatinooptonline (DOT) net> Subject: [no-forced-vaccinat ion] Re: OT: FDA Reluctantly Admits Mercury Fillings Have Neurotoxic Effects on Children no-forced-vaccinati ongroups (DOT) com Date: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 3:40 PM So when are insurance companies going to start paying to have these harmful fillings removed? > > http://www.prisonpl anet.com/ fda-reluctantly- admits-mercury- fillings- have > -neurotoxic- effects-on- children. html > > Hmmmmmm. > > - Lemmon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 I would recommend watching Sicko.On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 1:39 AM, Dennis <obriensr@...> wrote: I don't think the Insurance companies are to blame… they struggle to comply with regulations and legal traps that Big Pharma and the Psychiatric profession creates… The policies are legal agreements and sometimes these are difficult to bend and if bent become a loophole. With the new laws on making mental health treatment equal to medical treatment be ready to see your premiums skyrocket since it has been obvious that if your policy paid 2 month for mental health treatment the treatment took 2 months. If it covered 6 months the treatment took 6 months and so on… now with no policy limit difference for mental health… well you get the idea. Add to that the cost of drugs and you can see that the insurance companies are not happy with the cards they are being dealt. And the insurance companies in 2000 were mandated to increase their loss reserves by 3X. These are moneys that they can't spend… those that invested this money in shady mortgages are now losing their shirts. Now the Insurance companies are not goody goody guys either… they pay the best lawyers to help them make their contracts tight so that they can be profitable. Dennis From: no-forced-vaccination [mailto:no-forced-vaccination ] On Behalf Of elaine henderson Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 8:52 PM no-forced-vaccination Subject: Re: Re: OT: FDA Reluctantly Admits Mercury Fillings Have Neurotoxic Effects on Children as far as i am concerned, the insurance companies are just as bad as the government / meds. i enhaled a toothfeeling in 1998ish which landed in my right lung. after the medical staff tried to suction it out (local hospital in spokane, wa) i ended up having to have it surgically removed. the right lung was 1/2 to 2/3's full of abysess and infection and 12 days in the hospital. the filling was one of the older fillings from back in the 60's or 70's. it took an ex-ray to find the stupid filling. can you imagine what could have happened if it went undetected? elaine h. From: paoluccm <flatinooptonline (DOT) net> Subject: [no-forced-vaccinat ion] Re: OT: FDA Reluctantly Admits Mercury Fillings Have Neurotoxic Effects on Children no-forced-vaccinati ongroups (DOT) com Date: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 3:40 PM So when are insurance companies going to start paying to have these harmful fillings removed? > > http://www.prisonpl anet.com/ fda-reluctantly- admits-mercury- fillings- have > -neurotoxic- effects-on- children. html > > Hmmmmmm. > > - Lemmon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 I would recommend watching Sicko.On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 1:39 AM, Dennis <obriensr@...> wrote: I don't think the Insurance companies are to blame… they struggle to comply with regulations and legal traps that Big Pharma and the Psychiatric profession creates… The policies are legal agreements and sometimes these are difficult to bend and if bent become a loophole. With the new laws on making mental health treatment equal to medical treatment be ready to see your premiums skyrocket since it has been obvious that if your policy paid 2 month for mental health treatment the treatment took 2 months. If it covered 6 months the treatment took 6 months and so on… now with no policy limit difference for mental health… well you get the idea. Add to that the cost of drugs and you can see that the insurance companies are not happy with the cards they are being dealt. And the insurance companies in 2000 were mandated to increase their loss reserves by 3X. These are moneys that they can't spend… those that invested this money in shady mortgages are now losing their shirts. Now the Insurance companies are not goody goody guys either… they pay the best lawyers to help them make their contracts tight so that they can be profitable. Dennis From: no-forced-vaccination [mailto:no-forced-vaccination ] On Behalf Of elaine henderson Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 8:52 PM no-forced-vaccination Subject: Re: Re: OT: FDA Reluctantly Admits Mercury Fillings Have Neurotoxic Effects on Children as far as i am concerned, the insurance companies are just as bad as the government / meds. i enhaled a toothfeeling in 1998ish which landed in my right lung. after the medical staff tried to suction it out (local hospital in spokane, wa) i ended up having to have it surgically removed. the right lung was 1/2 to 2/3's full of abysess and infection and 12 days in the hospital. the filling was one of the older fillings from back in the 60's or 70's. it took an ex-ray to find the stupid filling. can you imagine what could have happened if it went undetected? elaine h. From: paoluccm <flatinooptonline (DOT) net> Subject: [no-forced-vaccinat ion] Re: OT: FDA Reluctantly Admits Mercury Fillings Have Neurotoxic Effects on Children no-forced-vaccinati ongroups (DOT) com Date: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 3:40 PM So when are insurance companies going to start paying to have these harmful fillings removed? > > http://www.prisonpl anet.com/ fda-reluctantly- admits-mercury- fillings- have > -neurotoxic- effects-on- children. html > > Hmmmmmm. > > - Lemmon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 I would recommend watching Sicko.On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 1:39 AM, Dennis <obriensr@...> wrote: I don't think the Insurance companies are to blame… they struggle to comply with regulations and legal traps that Big Pharma and the Psychiatric profession creates… The policies are legal agreements and sometimes these are difficult to bend and if bent become a loophole. With the new laws on making mental health treatment equal to medical treatment be ready to see your premiums skyrocket since it has been obvious that if your policy paid 2 month for mental health treatment the treatment took 2 months. If it covered 6 months the treatment took 6 months and so on… now with no policy limit difference for mental health… well you get the idea. Add to that the cost of drugs and you can see that the insurance companies are not happy with the cards they are being dealt. And the insurance companies in 2000 were mandated to increase their loss reserves by 3X. These are moneys that they can't spend… those that invested this money in shady mortgages are now losing their shirts. Now the Insurance companies are not goody goody guys either… they pay the best lawyers to help them make their contracts tight so that they can be profitable. Dennis From: no-forced-vaccination [mailto:no-forced-vaccination ] On Behalf Of elaine henderson Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 8:52 PM no-forced-vaccination Subject: Re: Re: OT: FDA Reluctantly Admits Mercury Fillings Have Neurotoxic Effects on Children as far as i am concerned, the insurance companies are just as bad as the government / meds. i enhaled a toothfeeling in 1998ish which landed in my right lung. after the medical staff tried to suction it out (local hospital in spokane, wa) i ended up having to have it surgically removed. the right lung was 1/2 to 2/3's full of abysess and infection and 12 days in the hospital. the filling was one of the older fillings from back in the 60's or 70's. it took an ex-ray to find the stupid filling. can you imagine what could have happened if it went undetected? elaine h. From: paoluccm <flatinooptonline (DOT) net> Subject: [no-forced-vaccinat ion] Re: OT: FDA Reluctantly Admits Mercury Fillings Have Neurotoxic Effects on Children no-forced-vaccinati ongroups (DOT) com Date: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 3:40 PM So when are insurance companies going to start paying to have these harmful fillings removed? > > http://www.prisonpl anet.com/ fda-reluctantly- admits-mercury- fillings- have > -neurotoxic- effects-on- children. html > > Hmmmmmm. > > - Lemmon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 I would recommend watching Sicko.On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 1:39 AM, Dennis <obriensr@...> wrote: I don't think the Insurance companies are to blame… they struggle to comply with regulations and legal traps that Big Pharma and the Psychiatric profession creates… The policies are legal agreements and sometimes these are difficult to bend and if bent become a loophole. With the new laws on making mental health treatment equal to medical treatment be ready to see your premiums skyrocket since it has been obvious that if your policy paid 2 month for mental health treatment the treatment took 2 months. If it covered 6 months the treatment took 6 months and so on… now with no policy limit difference for mental health… well you get the idea. Add to that the cost of drugs and you can see that the insurance companies are not happy with the cards they are being dealt. And the insurance companies in 2000 were mandated to increase their loss reserves by 3X. These are moneys that they can't spend… those that invested this money in shady mortgages are now losing their shirts. Now the Insurance companies are not goody goody guys either… they pay the best lawyers to help them make their contracts tight so that they can be profitable. Dennis From: no-forced-vaccination [mailto:no-forced-vaccination ] On Behalf Of elaine henderson Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 8:52 PM no-forced-vaccination Subject: Re: Re: OT: FDA Reluctantly Admits Mercury Fillings Have Neurotoxic Effects on Children as far as i am concerned, the insurance companies are just as bad as the government / meds. i enhaled a toothfeeling in 1998ish which landed in my right lung. after the medical staff tried to suction it out (local hospital in spokane, wa) i ended up having to have it surgically removed. the right lung was 1/2 to 2/3's full of abysess and infection and 12 days in the hospital. the filling was one of the older fillings from back in the 60's or 70's. it took an ex-ray to find the stupid filling. can you imagine what could have happened if it went undetected? elaine h. From: paoluccm <flatinooptonline (DOT) net> Subject: [no-forced-vaccinat ion] Re: OT: FDA Reluctantly Admits Mercury Fillings Have Neurotoxic Effects on Children no-forced-vaccinati ongroups (DOT) com Date: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 3:40 PM So when are insurance companies going to start paying to have these harmful fillings removed? > > http://www.prisonpl anet.com/ fda-reluctantly- admits-mercury- fillings- have > -neurotoxic- effects-on- children. html > > Hmmmmmm. > > - Lemmon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 hi dennis, you are correct in observations of the costs and further increases, but the experience my husband and i had in maine was deplorable. the medical director stepped in and told my pcp (assigned primary care physician) and denied all treatments except for my hypothyroid, and for my husband , just blood pressure. well , it turned out i was right my thyroid condition was caused by HEAVY METAL POISONING , mercury reading at 14, but also arsenic. lead, tin and uranium (24 hr urine at ddi), it took me 2 years to recover from pcos, no more gerd, so called fibromyalgia, allergies (to everything including all trees and dogs and cats), weight came back down, no more asthma, no irritable bowel. low bp. (HAD AMALGAMS REPLACED AND 2 Years of CHELATION TO RID ALL). on my husband's side dibetes type 2, excessive weight, high bp to name a few~~~his true diagnosis was LYME DISEASE. needless to say i kept asking the first pcp if it were heavy metal toxicity for me and lyme for both of us.and the 2nd, thank God i contacted a physician in th UK he referred me to a physician that saved my husband and i. (but needed referral from 2nd pcp) to get there, we're talking 9 years for referral to be granted. now here is the kicker, bc/bs anthem did pay for treatment for lyme, and the chelation for the mercury but refused to pay for amalgam removal which was one of causes, also flu shotsfor mercury for me. one of my pcps admitted they get rewarded only if they do not do excessive tests, called caps. this means if all they do is well check only @ 12-15 minutes standard they get optimum of $500-1,000 per patient. each doc in maine has approximately 600 patients, lot of money. this means no excessive tests, lyme and heavy metals are excessive tests. : ) i spent a good 9 months with appeals to anthem for biopsy on thyroid i needed , of course had to go to boston, the chelation etc. the medical director of bc/bs anthem had no license to practice medicine in the state of maine. lot of doctors did not there. this same woman was in direct contact with both of my primary care physicians with all denials delegated by only her. it turned out not only myself , but several others complained to maine state licensure board of physicians, that director was terminated as medical director for non compliance and practicing in state w/out license theodd thing the 1st pcp guilty of all denials, board said he was ignorant of lyme and heavy metal poisoning , so he had no accountability. after being out of maine for almost 5 years, the laws changed, since lyme is pandemic there, and newspapers reported that even the soil in maine has high mercury readings. the reason that maine did not want to warn about lyme in 1st place~~~tourism. i suggest all see sicko, but also note it is fact the united states is 47th in comparison to the rest of countriesfor quality medical care. michael moore said 43rd. but i am reporting this based on WHO world health organization who reports almost everything. and i am ASCP MT (some letters behind my name) i practiced as blood banker , microbiologist, and lab chemist in boston hospitals for 8 years(on call) thank you, debora [no-forced-vaccinat ion] Re: OT: FDA Reluctantly Admits Mercury Fillings Have Neurotoxic Effects on Childrenno-forced-vaccinati ongroups (DOT) comDate: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 3:40 PM So when are insurance companies going to start paying to have these harmful fillings removed?>> http://www.prisonpl anet.com/ fda-reluctantly- admits-mercury- fillings-have> -neurotoxic- effects-on- children. html> > Hmmmmmm.> > - Lemmon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 hi dennis, you are correct in observations of the costs and further increases, but the experience my husband and i had in maine was deplorable. the medical director stepped in and told my pcp (assigned primary care physician) and denied all treatments except for my hypothyroid, and for my husband , just blood pressure. well , it turned out i was right my thyroid condition was caused by HEAVY METAL POISONING , mercury reading at 14, but also arsenic. lead, tin and uranium (24 hr urine at ddi), it took me 2 years to recover from pcos, no more gerd, so called fibromyalgia, allergies (to everything including all trees and dogs and cats), weight came back down, no more asthma, no irritable bowel. low bp. (HAD AMALGAMS REPLACED AND 2 Years of CHELATION TO RID ALL). on my husband's side dibetes type 2, excessive weight, high bp to name a few~~~his true diagnosis was LYME DISEASE. needless to say i kept asking the first pcp if it were heavy metal toxicity for me and lyme for both of us.and the 2nd, thank God i contacted a physician in th UK he referred me to a physician that saved my husband and i. (but needed referral from 2nd pcp) to get there, we're talking 9 years for referral to be granted. now here is the kicker, bc/bs anthem did pay for treatment for lyme, and the chelation for the mercury but refused to pay for amalgam removal which was one of causes, also flu shotsfor mercury for me. one of my pcps admitted they get rewarded only if they do not do excessive tests, called caps. this means if all they do is well check only @ 12-15 minutes standard they get optimum of $500-1,000 per patient. each doc in maine has approximately 600 patients, lot of money. this means no excessive tests, lyme and heavy metals are excessive tests. : ) i spent a good 9 months with appeals to anthem for biopsy on thyroid i needed , of course had to go to boston, the chelation etc. the medical director of bc/bs anthem had no license to practice medicine in the state of maine. lot of doctors did not there. this same woman was in direct contact with both of my primary care physicians with all denials delegated by only her. it turned out not only myself , but several others complained to maine state licensure board of physicians, that director was terminated as medical director for non compliance and practicing in state w/out license theodd thing the 1st pcp guilty of all denials, board said he was ignorant of lyme and heavy metal poisoning , so he had no accountability. after being out of maine for almost 5 years, the laws changed, since lyme is pandemic there, and newspapers reported that even the soil in maine has high mercury readings. the reason that maine did not want to warn about lyme in 1st place~~~tourism. i suggest all see sicko, but also note it is fact the united states is 47th in comparison to the rest of countriesfor quality medical care. michael moore said 43rd. but i am reporting this based on WHO world health organization who reports almost everything. and i am ASCP MT (some letters behind my name) i practiced as blood banker , microbiologist, and lab chemist in boston hospitals for 8 years(on call) thank you, debora [no-forced-vaccinat ion] Re: OT: FDA Reluctantly Admits Mercury Fillings Have Neurotoxic Effects on Childrenno-forced-vaccinati ongroups (DOT) comDate: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 3:40 PM So when are insurance companies going to start paying to have these harmful fillings removed?>> http://www.prisonpl anet.com/ fda-reluctantly- admits-mercury- fillings-have> -neurotoxic- effects-on- children. html> > Hmmmmmm.> > - Lemmon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 hi dennis, you are correct in observations of the costs and further increases, but the experience my husband and i had in maine was deplorable. the medical director stepped in and told my pcp (assigned primary care physician) and denied all treatments except for my hypothyroid, and for my husband , just blood pressure. well , it turned out i was right my thyroid condition was caused by HEAVY METAL POISONING , mercury reading at 14, but also arsenic. lead, tin and uranium (24 hr urine at ddi), it took me 2 years to recover from pcos, no more gerd, so called fibromyalgia, allergies (to everything including all trees and dogs and cats), weight came back down, no more asthma, no irritable bowel. low bp. (HAD AMALGAMS REPLACED AND 2 Years of CHELATION TO RID ALL). on my husband's side dibetes type 2, excessive weight, high bp to name a few~~~his true diagnosis was LYME DISEASE. needless to say i kept asking the first pcp if it were heavy metal toxicity for me and lyme for both of us.and the 2nd, thank God i contacted a physician in th UK he referred me to a physician that saved my husband and i. (but needed referral from 2nd pcp) to get there, we're talking 9 years for referral to be granted. now here is the kicker, bc/bs anthem did pay for treatment for lyme, and the chelation for the mercury but refused to pay for amalgam removal which was one of causes, also flu shotsfor mercury for me. one of my pcps admitted they get rewarded only if they do not do excessive tests, called caps. this means if all they do is well check only @ 12-15 minutes standard they get optimum of $500-1,000 per patient. each doc in maine has approximately 600 patients, lot of money. this means no excessive tests, lyme and heavy metals are excessive tests. : ) i spent a good 9 months with appeals to anthem for biopsy on thyroid i needed , of course had to go to boston, the chelation etc. the medical director of bc/bs anthem had no license to practice medicine in the state of maine. lot of doctors did not there. this same woman was in direct contact with both of my primary care physicians with all denials delegated by only her. it turned out not only myself , but several others complained to maine state licensure board of physicians, that director was terminated as medical director for non compliance and practicing in state w/out license theodd thing the 1st pcp guilty of all denials, board said he was ignorant of lyme and heavy metal poisoning , so he had no accountability. after being out of maine for almost 5 years, the laws changed, since lyme is pandemic there, and newspapers reported that even the soil in maine has high mercury readings. the reason that maine did not want to warn about lyme in 1st place~~~tourism. i suggest all see sicko, but also note it is fact the united states is 47th in comparison to the rest of countriesfor quality medical care. michael moore said 43rd. but i am reporting this based on WHO world health organization who reports almost everything. and i am ASCP MT (some letters behind my name) i practiced as blood banker , microbiologist, and lab chemist in boston hospitals for 8 years(on call) thank you, debora [no-forced-vaccinat ion] Re: OT: FDA Reluctantly Admits Mercury Fillings Have Neurotoxic Effects on Childrenno-forced-vaccinati ongroups (DOT) comDate: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 3:40 PM So when are insurance companies going to start paying to have these harmful fillings removed?>> http://www.prisonpl anet.com/ fda-reluctantly- admits-mercury- fillings-have> -neurotoxic- effects-on- children. html> > Hmmmmmm.> > - Lemmon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 hi dennis, you are correct in observations of the costs and further increases, but the experience my husband and i had in maine was deplorable. the medical director stepped in and told my pcp (assigned primary care physician) and denied all treatments except for my hypothyroid, and for my husband , just blood pressure. well , it turned out i was right my thyroid condition was caused by HEAVY METAL POISONING , mercury reading at 14, but also arsenic. lead, tin and uranium (24 hr urine at ddi), it took me 2 years to recover from pcos, no more gerd, so called fibromyalgia, allergies (to everything including all trees and dogs and cats), weight came back down, no more asthma, no irritable bowel. low bp. (HAD AMALGAMS REPLACED AND 2 Years of CHELATION TO RID ALL). on my husband's side dibetes type 2, excessive weight, high bp to name a few~~~his true diagnosis was LYME DISEASE. needless to say i kept asking the first pcp if it were heavy metal toxicity for me and lyme for both of us.and the 2nd, thank God i contacted a physician in th UK he referred me to a physician that saved my husband and i. (but needed referral from 2nd pcp) to get there, we're talking 9 years for referral to be granted. now here is the kicker, bc/bs anthem did pay for treatment for lyme, and the chelation for the mercury but refused to pay for amalgam removal which was one of causes, also flu shotsfor mercury for me. one of my pcps admitted they get rewarded only if they do not do excessive tests, called caps. this means if all they do is well check only @ 12-15 minutes standard they get optimum of $500-1,000 per patient. each doc in maine has approximately 600 patients, lot of money. this means no excessive tests, lyme and heavy metals are excessive tests. : ) i spent a good 9 months with appeals to anthem for biopsy on thyroid i needed , of course had to go to boston, the chelation etc. the medical director of bc/bs anthem had no license to practice medicine in the state of maine. lot of doctors did not there. this same woman was in direct contact with both of my primary care physicians with all denials delegated by only her. it turned out not only myself , but several others complained to maine state licensure board of physicians, that director was terminated as medical director for non compliance and practicing in state w/out license theodd thing the 1st pcp guilty of all denials, board said he was ignorant of lyme and heavy metal poisoning , so he had no accountability. after being out of maine for almost 5 years, the laws changed, since lyme is pandemic there, and newspapers reported that even the soil in maine has high mercury readings. the reason that maine did not want to warn about lyme in 1st place~~~tourism. i suggest all see sicko, but also note it is fact the united states is 47th in comparison to the rest of countriesfor quality medical care. michael moore said 43rd. but i am reporting this based on WHO world health organization who reports almost everything. and i am ASCP MT (some letters behind my name) i practiced as blood banker , microbiologist, and lab chemist in boston hospitals for 8 years(on call) thank you, debora [no-forced-vaccinat ion] Re: OT: FDA Reluctantly Admits Mercury Fillings Have Neurotoxic Effects on Childrenno-forced-vaccinati ongroups (DOT) comDate: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 3:40 PM So when are insurance companies going to start paying to have these harmful fillings removed?>> http://www.prisonpl anet.com/ fda-reluctantly- admits-mercury- fillings-have> -neurotoxic- effects-on- children. html> > Hmmmmmm.> > - Lemmon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 Yes, the technical legal terms like “Usual, Reasonable and customary” can be for your area and not for your NEED… also the list of covered and not covered items is a bear to maneuver… My point was more that the insurance companies are also in a weird position… and that gets worse when you get to PPO’s - HMO’s, and any kind of managed care. These become bottom line type of authorizations that can leave a person without money for needed treatment. And a bean counter is the one with the final word. A policy that is an INDEMNITY type policy is more liberal is usually a bit better coverage because it follows the Dr’s prescription more frequently. Also a policy with a higher deductible is also more liberal since they have less exposure. I worked 20 years in the field and can tell you it is extremely confusing and can leave a person without coverage for those things that people in this forum would find important and in the long run better and more profitable for the insurance companies. Well people don’t use insurance much. Ironic don’t you think? Dennis From: no-forced-vaccination [mailto:no-forced-vaccination ] On Behalf Of Debora Tyler Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 9:09 AM no-forced-vaccination Subject: Re: Re: OT: FDA Reluctantly Admits Mercury Fillings Have Neurotoxic Effects on Children hi dennis, you are correct in observations of the costs and further increases, but the experience my husband and i had in maine was deplorable. the medical director stepped in and told my pcp (assigned primary care physician) and denied all treatments except for my hypothyroid, and for my husband , just blood pressure. well , it turned out i was right my thyroid condition was caused by HEAVY METAL POISONING , mercury reading at 14, but also arsenic. lead, tin and uranium (24 hr urine at ddi), it took me 2 years to recover from pcos, no more gerd, so called fibromyalgia, allergies (to everything including all trees and dogs and cats), weight came back down, no more asthma, no irritable bowel. low bp. (HAD AMALGAMS REPLACED AND 2 Years of CHELATION TO RID ALL). on my husband's side dibetes type 2, excessive weight, high bp to name a few~~~his true diagnosis was LYME DISEASE. needless to say i kept asking the first pcp if it were heavy metal toxicity for me and lyme for both of us.and the 2nd, thank God i contacted a physician in th UK he referred me to a physician that saved my husband and i. (but needed referral from 2nd pcp) to get there, we're talking 9 years for referral to be granted. now here is the kicker, bc/bs anthem did pay for treatment for lyme, and the chelation for the mercury but refused to pay for amalgam removal which was one of causes, also flu shotsfor mercury for me. one of my pcps admitted they get rewarded only if they do not do excessive tests, called caps. this means if all they do is well check only @ 12-15 minutes standard they get optimum of $500-1,000 per patient. each doc in maine has approximately 600 patients, lot of money. this means no excessive tests, lyme and heavy metals are excessive tests. : ) i spent a good 9 months with appeals to anthem for biopsy on thyroid i needed , of course had to go to boston, the chelation etc. the medical director of bc/bs anthem had no license to practice medicine in the state of maine. lot of doctors did not there. this same woman was in direct contact with both of my primary care physicians with all denials delegated by only her. it turned out not only myself , but several others complained to maine state licensure board of physicians, that director was terminated as medical director for non compliance and practicing in state w/out license theodd thing the 1st pcp guilty of all denials, board said he was ignorant of lyme and heavy metal poisoning , so he had no accountability. after being out of maine for almost 5 years, the laws changed, since lyme is pandemic there, and newspapers reported that even the soil in maine has high mercury readings. the reason that maine did not want to warn about lyme in 1st place~~~tourism. i suggest all see sicko, but also note it is fact the united states is 47th in comparison to the rest of countriesfor quality medical care. michael moore said 43rd. but i am reporting this based on WHO world health organization who reports almost everything. and i am ASCP MT (some letters behind my name) i practiced as blood banker , microbiologist, and lab chemist in boston hospitals for 8 years(on call) thank you, debora ----- Original Message ----- From: Dennis no-forced-vaccination Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 12:39 AM Subject: RE: Re: OT: FDA Reluctantly Admits Mercury Fillings Have Neurotoxic Effects on Children I don’t think the Insurance companies are to blame… they struggle to comply with regulations and legal traps that Big Pharma and the Psychiatric profession creates… The policies are legal agreements and sometimes these are difficult to bend and if bent become a loophole. With the new laws on making mental health treatment equal to medical treatment be ready to see your premiums skyrocket since it has been obvious that if your policy paid 2 month for mental health treatment the treatment took 2 months. If it covered 6 months the treatment took 6 months and so on… now with no policy limit difference for mental health… well you get the idea. Add to that the cost of drugs and you can see that the insurance companies are not happy with the cards they are being dealt. And the insurance companies in 2000 were mandated to increase their loss reserves by 3X. These are moneys that they can’t spend… those that invested this money in shady mortgages are now losing their shirts. Now the Insurance companies are not goody goody guys either… they pay the best lawyers to help them make their contracts tight so that they can be profitable. Dennis From: no-forced-vaccination [mailto:no-forced-vaccination ] On Behalf Of elaine henderson Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 8:52 PM no-forced-vaccination Subject: Re: Re: OT: FDA Reluctantly Admits Mercury Fillings Have Neurotoxic Effects on Children as far as i am concerned, the insurance companies are just as bad as the government / meds. i enhaled a toothfeeling in 1998ish which landed in my right lung. after the medical staff tried to suction it out (local hospital in spokane, wa) i ended up having to have it surgically removed. the right lung was 1/2 to 2/3's full of abysess and infection and 12 days in the hospital. the filling was one of the older fillings from back in the 60's or 70's. it took an ex-ray to find the stupid filling. can you imagine what could have happened if it went undetected? elaine h. From: paoluccm <flatinooptonline (DOT) net> Subject: [no-forced-vaccinat ion] Re: OT: FDA Reluctantly Admits Mercury Fillings Have Neurotoxic Effects on Children no-forced-vaccinati ongroups (DOT) com Date: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 3:40 PM So when are insurance companies going to start paying to have these harmful fillings removed? > > http://www.prisonpl anet.com/ fda-reluctantly- admits-mercury- fillings- have > -neurotoxic- effects-on- children. html > > Hmmmmmm. > > - Lemmon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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