Re: What is allowable in this forum of discussion..??

[Guest guest]

Hullo . You knew I would have something to say in answer to your query. lol On the Main Page of our Group, it says. This forum is intended for individuals and groups working with NSF on the compulsory vaccination / forced drugging issue. Note: That does Include forced drugs/toxins/poisons and dangers etc, where are human rights are concerned, violated or taken away. You would have read that when deciding if this forum is something we wanted to be a part of. Given free speech, most titled Groups tend to adhere to what each Group is specified for. See Ralph's *NFV forum use of standards*, in the file section on the left column of the home page. Some groups do set some guidelines for effeciency and productivity. But all groups look down on personal attacks and hatemongering, and are generally reasons for warnings and banning. We have been given free reign, so to speak,

to make this site what we want it to be. No, there will never be a Talked Out point concerning NoForcedVaccine/Drug Issues. In fact, we have barely scratched the surface so far, in the 6 months I have been here. There just hasn't been too many good ideas offered to attack the subject, or to be more proactive in the request by our moderators, to work on stopping compulsory vaccine/drugs. (for ouselves, our families, our innocent babies, children and elderly, as well as our beloved pets.) So until we do, we just have to keep posting, OT (off-topic) in the address line of our posts, when it doesnt necessarily attend to the mission, so that those who dont wish to open those posts, can avoid them, That is my take on it. Hope that helped. All information is important to someone. But we have to think,... is this important to our forum, before we press the Send Button. And if it is OT,

according to the forum use of standards, dont forget to post it as OT. I personally feel the more currant talk of forcing drugs on autism spectrum kids, is very On Topic. If certain shared topics are of interest to a few, take it off group, and interact personally, or find additional groups it may benefit better. And remember that personal ideals, judgements, religion and politics in these groups can start much anger and dissention. It always has and always will cause mini wars, and ruffle some feather. We seem to be lacking for need of direction and leadership. But maybe I am the only one sensing that?? There are alot of experienced and educated professionals, as well as us more ordinary concerned citizen in our growing group. Many do not contribute, but all are worthy. Party on KidZ! Glad Day ~ Karla in IL

[Guest guest]

Hullo . You knew I would have something to say in answer to your query. lol On the Main Page of our Group, it says. This forum is intended for individuals and groups working with NSF on the compulsory vaccination / forced drugging issue. Note: That does Include forced drugs/toxins/poisons and dangers etc, where are human rights are concerned, violated or taken away. You would have read that when deciding if this forum is something we wanted to be a part of. Given free speech, most titled Groups tend to adhere to what each Group is specified for. See Ralph's *NFV forum use of standards*, in the file section on the left column of the home page. Some groups do set some guidelines for effeciency and productivity. But all groups look down on personal attacks and hatemongering, and are generally reasons for warnings and banning. We have been given free reign, so to speak,

to make this site what we want it to be. No, there will never be a Talked Out point concerning NoForcedVaccine/Drug Issues. In fact, we have barely scratched the surface so far, in the 6 months I have been here. There just hasn't been too many good ideas offered to attack the subject, or to be more proactive in the request by our moderators, to work on stopping compulsory vaccine/drugs. (for ouselves, our families, our innocent babies, children and elderly, as well as our beloved pets.) So until we do, we just have to keep posting, OT (off-topic) in the address line of our posts, when it doesnt necessarily attend to the mission, so that those who dont wish to open those posts, can avoid them, That is my take on it. Hope that helped. All information is important to someone. But we have to think,... is this important to our forum, before we press the Send Button. And if it is OT,

according to the forum use of standards, dont forget to post it as OT. I personally feel the more currant talk of forcing drugs on autism spectrum kids, is very On Topic. If certain shared topics are of interest to a few, take it off group, and interact personally, or find additional groups it may benefit better. And remember that personal ideals, judgements, religion and politics in these groups can start much anger and dissention. It always has and always will cause mini wars, and ruffle some feather. We seem to be lacking for need of direction and leadership. But maybe I am the only one sensing that?? There are alot of experienced and educated professionals, as well as us more ordinary concerned citizen in our growing group. Many do not contribute, but all are worthy. Party on KidZ! Glad Day ~ Karla in IL

[Guest guest]

Okay Karla,

Yes you are correct.. I did expect you to have your say in that..

I still do not understand why it seems that when I am a part of

conversations and only naturally discussing my views on things, I

feel as though you keep.. as I keep saying.. " pulling in the reins " ..??

Am I to take it that I am one who has not been one to adhere to the

group guidelines??

I just have difficulty seeing how my posts seem to be way off topic

and in need of moderation.. I think that my posts are just as on/off

topic as most.. if not all here...

Am I wrong???

Peace,

+

>

> Hullo . You knew I would have something to say in answer to

your query. lol

> On the Main Page of our Group, it says. This forum is intended

for individuals and groups working with NSF on the compulsory

vaccination / forced drugging issue.

> Note: That does Include forced drugs/toxins/poisons and dangers

etc, where are human rights are concerned, violated or taken away.

> You would have read that when deciding if this forum is

something we wanted to be a part of. Given free speech, most titled

Groups tend to adhere to what each Group is specified for. See

Ralph's *NFV forum use of standards*, in the file section on the left

column of the home page. Some groups do set some guidelines for

effeciency and productivity. But all groups look down on personal

attacks and hatemongering, and are generally reasons for warnings and

banning.

> We have been given free reign, so to speak, to make this site

what we want it to be.

> No, there will never be a Talked Out point concerning

NoForcedVaccine/Drug Issues. In fact, we have barely scratched the

surface so far, in the 6 months I have been here. There just hasn't

been too many good ideas offered to attack the subject, or to be more

proactive in the request by our moderators, to work on stopping

compulsory vaccine/drugs. (for ouselves, our families, our innocent

babies, children and elderly, as well as our beloved pets.)

> So until we do, we just have to keep posting, OT (off-topic) in

the address line of our posts, when it doesnt necessarily attend to

the mission, so that those who dont wish to open those posts, can

avoid them,

> That is my take on it. Hope that helped. All information is

important to someone. But we have to think,... is this important to

our forum, before we press the Send Button. And if it is OT,

according to the forum use of standards, dont forget to post it as OT.

> I personally feel the more currant talk of forcing drugs on

autism spectrum kids, is very On Topic.

> If certain shared topics are of interest to a few, take it off

group, and interact personally, or find additional groups it may

benefit better. And remember that personal ideals, judgements,

religion and politics in these groups can start much anger and

dissention. It always has and always will cause mini wars, and

ruffle some feather. We seem to be lacking for need of direction and

leadership. But maybe I am the only one sensing that??

> There are alot of experienced and educated professionals, as

well as us more ordinary concerned citizen in our growing group. Many

do not contribute, but all are worthy.

> Party on KidZ!

> Glad Day ~ Karla in IL

>

[Guest guest]

Okay Karla,

Yes you are correct.. I did expect you to have your say in that..

I still do not understand why it seems that when I am a part of

conversations and only naturally discussing my views on things, I

feel as though you keep.. as I keep saying.. " pulling in the reins " ..??

Am I to take it that I am one who has not been one to adhere to the

group guidelines??

I just have difficulty seeing how my posts seem to be way off topic

and in need of moderation.. I think that my posts are just as on/off

topic as most.. if not all here...

Am I wrong???

Peace,

+

>

> Hullo . You knew I would have something to say in answer to

your query. lol

> On the Main Page of our Group, it says. This forum is intended

for individuals and groups working with NSF on the compulsory

vaccination / forced drugging issue.

> Note: That does Include forced drugs/toxins/poisons and dangers

etc, where are human rights are concerned, violated or taken away.

> You would have read that when deciding if this forum is

something we wanted to be a part of. Given free speech, most titled

Groups tend to adhere to what each Group is specified for. See

Ralph's *NFV forum use of standards*, in the file section on the left

column of the home page. Some groups do set some guidelines for

effeciency and productivity. But all groups look down on personal

attacks and hatemongering, and are generally reasons for warnings and

banning.

> We have been given free reign, so to speak, to make this site

what we want it to be.

> No, there will never be a Talked Out point concerning

NoForcedVaccine/Drug Issues. In fact, we have barely scratched the

surface so far, in the 6 months I have been here. There just hasn't

been too many good ideas offered to attack the subject, or to be more

proactive in the request by our moderators, to work on stopping

compulsory vaccine/drugs. (for ouselves, our families, our innocent

babies, children and elderly, as well as our beloved pets.)

> So until we do, we just have to keep posting, OT (off-topic) in

the address line of our posts, when it doesnt necessarily attend to

the mission, so that those who dont wish to open those posts, can

avoid them,

> That is my take on it. Hope that helped. All information is

important to someone. But we have to think,... is this important to

our forum, before we press the Send Button. And if it is OT,

according to the forum use of standards, dont forget to post it as OT.

> I personally feel the more currant talk of forcing drugs on

autism spectrum kids, is very On Topic.

> If certain shared topics are of interest to a few, take it off

group, and interact personally, or find additional groups it may

benefit better. And remember that personal ideals, judgements,

religion and politics in these groups can start much anger and

dissention. It always has and always will cause mini wars, and

ruffle some feather. We seem to be lacking for need of direction and

leadership. But maybe I am the only one sensing that??

> There are alot of experienced and educated professionals, as

well as us more ordinary concerned citizen in our growing group. Many

do not contribute, but all are worthy.

> Party on KidZ!

> Glad Day ~ Karla in IL

>

[Guest guest]

Hullo . Sorry if you feel a bit paranoid. Wasn't my intent. Everyone should post what they feel *comfortable* posting, or are excited about, or have a passion for, even if it is marginally, or decidedly OT. Just remember to post it as at OT. And all should be able to pick and choice what the open or not, from the title of each post. The volumn of emails are pretty large, even tho only a small percentage of the over 700 members do post. That volumn and choice of topics has turned some people way. I know I am not always able to keep up with it, or read all the links or watch all the videos, or run out to buy suggested books, et. We can be unindated with alot of info, and sometimes have to pick and chose. As always, I would be the first to apologize if I stepped on anyone's sensibilities. Glad Day ~ Karla in IL

[Guest guest]

On Jun 30, 2551 BE, at 5:16 PM, karla walsh wrote:Hullo . You knew I would have something to say in answer to your query. lolOn the Main Page of our Group, it says. This forum is intended for individuals and groups working with NSF on the compulsory vaccination / forced drugging issue.Note: That does Include forced drugs/toxins/poisons and dangers etc, where are human rights are concerned, violated or taken away. You would have read that when deciding if this forum is something we wanted to be a part of.  Given free speech, most titled Groups tend to adhere to what each Group is specified for.  See Ralph's *NFV forum use of standards*, in the file section on the left column of the home page. Some groups do set some guidelines for effeciency and productivity. But all groups look down on personal attacks and hatemongering, and are generally reasons for warnings and banning.  We have been given free reign, so to speak, to make this site what we want it to be. No, there will never be a Talked Out point concerning NoForcedVaccine/Drug Issues. In fact, we have barely scratched the surface so far, in the 6 months I have been here. There just hasn't been too many good ideas offered to attack the subject, or to be more proactive in the request by our moderators, to work on stopping compulsory vaccine/drugs. (for ouselves, our families, our innocent babies, children and elderly, as well as our beloved pets.)  So until we do, we just have to keep posting, OT (off-topic) in the address line of our posts, when it doesnt necessarily attend to the mission, so that those who dont wish to open those posts, can avoid them,   That is my take on it. Hope that helped. All information is important to someone. But we have to think,... is this important to our forum, before we press the Send Button. And if it is OT, according to the forum use of standards, dont forget to post it as OT.  I personally feel the more currant talk of forcing drugs on autism spectrum kids, is very On Topic. If certain shared topics are of interest to a few, take it off group, and interact personally, or find additional groups it may benefit better.  And remember that personal ideals, judgements, religion and politics in these groups can start much anger and dissention.  It always has and always will cause mini wars, and ruffle some feather.  We seem to be lacking for need of direction and leadership. But maybe I am the only one sensing that??  There are alot of experienced and educated professionals, as well as us more ordinary concerned citizen in our growing group. Many do not contribute, but all are worthy. Party on KidZ!Glad Day ~ Karla in IL 

[Guest guest]

Perhaps the moderators of this group could do what other groups I belong to do... they have a separate forum just for OT posts that only members of the main forum can join. Could name it OT4no-forced-vaccination or something. Anything is allowed to be posted in the OT forum, so then it is just an extension of the main forum and conversations can take place freely.

Just a suggestion.

[Guest guest]

Perhaps the moderators of this group could do what other groups I belong to do... they have a separate forum just for OT posts that only members of the main forum can join. Could name it OT4no-forced-vaccination or something. Anything is allowed to be posted in the OT forum, so then it is just an extension of the main forum and conversations can take place freely.

Just a suggestion.

[Guest guest]

Perhaps the moderators of this group could do what other groups I belong to do... they have a separate forum just for OT posts that only members of the main forum can join. Could name it OT4no-forced-vaccination or something. Anything is allowed to be posted in the OT forum, so then it is just an extension of the main forum and conversations can take place freely.

Just a suggestion.

[Guest guest]

Perhaps the moderators of this group could do what other groups I belong to do... they have a separate forum just for OT posts that only members of the main forum can join. Could name it OT4no-forced-vaccination or something. Anything is allowed to be posted in the OT forum, so then it is just an extension of the main forum and conversations can take place freely.

Just a suggestion.

[Guest guest]

I, too, belong to groups which use the OT prefix to off topic ideas;

however, I just use the delete key if something doesn't interest me.

I like to have quick access to everyone's ideas, and what is OT to

someone might not be to someone else.

I think the issues of birth, which come up frequently on this list are

very connected to the issues of vaccination.

Again, my two cents. Thanks.

t

On Jul 1, 2008, at 11:20 AM, Roberg wrote:

>

> Perhaps the moderators of this group could do what other groups I

> belong to do... they have a separate forum just for OT posts that

> only members of the main forum can join. Could name it OT4no-forced-

> vaccination or something. Anything is allowed to be posted in the

> OT forum, so then it is just an extension of the main forum and

> conversations can take place freely.

>

> Just a suggestion.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I, too, belong to groups which use the OT prefix to off topic ideas;

however, I just use the delete key if something doesn't interest me.

I like to have quick access to everyone's ideas, and what is OT to

someone might not be to someone else.

I think the issues of birth, which come up frequently on this list are

very connected to the issues of vaccination.

Again, my two cents. Thanks.

t

On Jul 1, 2008, at 11:20 AM, Roberg wrote:

>

> Perhaps the moderators of this group could do what other groups I

> belong to do... they have a separate forum just for OT posts that

> only members of the main forum can join. Could name it OT4no-forced-

> vaccination or something. Anything is allowed to be posted in the

> OT forum, so then it is just an extension of the main forum and

> conversations can take place freely.

>

> Just a suggestion.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I, too, belong to groups which use the OT prefix to off topic ideas;

however, I just use the delete key if something doesn't interest me.

I like to have quick access to everyone's ideas, and what is OT to

someone might not be to someone else.

I think the issues of birth, which come up frequently on this list are

very connected to the issues of vaccination.

Again, my two cents. Thanks.

t

On Jul 1, 2008, at 11:20 AM, Roberg wrote:

>

> Perhaps the moderators of this group could do what other groups I

> belong to do... they have a separate forum just for OT posts that

> only members of the main forum can join. Could name it OT4no-forced-

> vaccination or something. Anything is allowed to be posted in the

> OT forum, so then it is just an extension of the main forum and

> conversations can take place freely.

>

> Just a suggestion.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I, too, belong to groups which use the OT prefix to off topic ideas;

however, I just use the delete key if something doesn't interest me.

I like to have quick access to everyone's ideas, and what is OT to

someone might not be to someone else.

I think the issues of birth, which come up frequently on this list are

very connected to the issues of vaccination.

Again, my two cents. Thanks.

t

On Jul 1, 2008, at 11:20 AM, Roberg wrote:

>

> Perhaps the moderators of this group could do what other groups I

> belong to do... they have a separate forum just for OT posts that

> only members of the main forum can join. Could name it OT4no-forced-

> vaccination or something. Anything is allowed to be posted in the

> OT forum, so then it is just an extension of the main forum and

> conversations can take place freely.

>

> Just a suggestion.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you for this post, . I guess I've been wondering the same thing. My brain works by making connections, and being a person who tends to see the whole picture a great deal more easily than specific parts of the picture, I tend to find items that are, to me, inextricably entwined. That's why you'll see me posting items which I may preface with "Possibly OT but related" or words to that effect. ~~Ruth/REU

What is allowable in this forum of discussion..??

Could it be that we are all talked out on the No Forced Vaccine Issue..??

It seems like the reins have been pulled tight....time and time again.. But all of us..(including me) still post about OT stuff..

So..

What is allowable in this forum of discussion..?? I am starting to get a bit confused..

I keep hearing Karla's posting voice in my head everytime I even think of posting something that is remotely OT in this group..but I still see posts that are not directly discussing the No Force Vaccine issue..

So... I pose this question.. Where are the boundaries..??

What am I and all the others in this group allowed to post without causing dispute from others???

Could you specify???

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

Thank you for this post, . I guess I've been wondering the same thing. My brain works by making connections, and being a person who tends to see the whole picture a great deal more easily than specific parts of the picture, I tend to find items that are, to me, inextricably entwined. That's why you'll see me posting items which I may preface with "Possibly OT but related" or words to that effect. ~~Ruth/REU

What is allowable in this forum of discussion..??

Could it be that we are all talked out on the No Forced Vaccine Issue..??

It seems like the reins have been pulled tight....time and time again.. But all of us..(including me) still post about OT stuff..

So..

What is allowable in this forum of discussion..?? I am starting to get a bit confused..

I keep hearing Karla's posting voice in my head everytime I even think of posting something that is remotely OT in this group..but I still see posts that are not directly discussing the No Force Vaccine issue..

So... I pose this question.. Where are the boundaries..??

What am I and all the others in this group allowed to post without causing dispute from others???

Could you specify???

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

Thank you for this post, . I guess I've been wondering the same thing. My brain works by making connections, and being a person who tends to see the whole picture a great deal more easily than specific parts of the picture, I tend to find items that are, to me, inextricably entwined. That's why you'll see me posting items which I may preface with "Possibly OT but related" or words to that effect. ~~Ruth/REU

What is allowable in this forum of discussion..??

Could it be that we are all talked out on the No Forced Vaccine Issue..??

It seems like the reins have been pulled tight....time and time again.. But all of us..(including me) still post about OT stuff..

So..

What is allowable in this forum of discussion..?? I am starting to get a bit confused..

I keep hearing Karla's posting voice in my head everytime I even think of posting something that is remotely OT in this group..but I still see posts that are not directly discussing the No Force Vaccine issue..

So... I pose this question.. Where are the boundaries..??

What am I and all the others in this group allowed to post without causing dispute from others???

Could you specify???

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

Thank you for this post, . I guess I've been wondering the same thing. My brain works by making connections, and being a person who tends to see the whole picture a great deal more easily than specific parts of the picture, I tend to find items that are, to me, inextricably entwined. That's why you'll see me posting items which I may preface with "Possibly OT but related" or words to that effect. ~~Ruth/REU

What is allowable in this forum of discussion..??

Could it be that we are all talked out on the No Forced Vaccine Issue..??

It seems like the reins have been pulled tight....time and time again.. But all of us..(including me) still post about OT stuff..

So..

What is allowable in this forum of discussion..?? I am starting to get a bit confused..

I keep hearing Karla's posting voice in my head everytime I even think of posting something that is remotely OT in this group..but I still see posts that are not directly discussing the No Force Vaccine issue..

So... I pose this question.. Where are the boundaries..??

What am I and all the others in this group allowed to post without causing dispute from others???

Could you specify???

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

Good suggestion.. I agree..!!!!

I second that suggestion..

>

> Perhaps the moderators of this group could do what other groups I

belong to

> do... they have a separate forum just for OT posts that only

members of the

> main forum can join. Could name it OT4no-forced-vaccination or

something.

> Anything is allowed to be posted in the OT forum, so then it is

just an

> extension of the main forum and conversations can take place freely.

>

> Just a suggestion.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I have to admit that is not the only one who has felt as she obviously does. I have also felt similar feelings--more than once, twice --I've lost count. There have been several times that I have been sorely tempted to leave the group because of these types of incidents--being ridden herd upon and feeling as though I am being castigated for and told what I should or should not say or post. ~~Ruth/REU

Re: Re: What is allowable in this forum of discussion..??

Hullo . Sorry if you feel a bit paranoid. Wasn't my intent. Everyone should post what they feel *comfortable* posting, or are excited about, or have a passion for, even if it is marginally, or decidedly OT. Just remember to post it as at OT. And all should be able to pick and choice what the open or not, from the title of each post. The volumn of emails are pretty large, even tho only a small percentage of the over 700 members do post. That volumn and choice of topics has turned some people way. I know I am not always able to keep up with it, or read all the links or watch all the videos, or run out to buy suggested books, et. We can be unindated with alot of info, and sometimes have to pick and chose.

As always, I would be the first to apologize if I stepped on anyone's sensibilities.

Glad Day ~ Karla in IL

[Guest guest]

I have to admit that is not the only one who has felt as she obviously does. I have also felt similar feelings--more than once, twice --I've lost count. There have been several times that I have been sorely tempted to leave the group because of these types of incidents--being ridden herd upon and feeling as though I am being castigated for and told what I should or should not say or post. ~~Ruth/REU

Re: Re: What is allowable in this forum of discussion..??

Hullo . Sorry if you feel a bit paranoid. Wasn't my intent. Everyone should post what they feel *comfortable* posting, or are excited about, or have a passion for, even if it is marginally, or decidedly OT. Just remember to post it as at OT. And all should be able to pick and choice what the open or not, from the title of each post. The volumn of emails are pretty large, even tho only a small percentage of the over 700 members do post. That volumn and choice of topics has turned some people way. I know I am not always able to keep up with it, or read all the links or watch all the videos, or run out to buy suggested books, et. We can be unindated with alot of info, and sometimes have to pick and chose.

As always, I would be the first to apologize if I stepped on anyone's sensibilities.

Glad Day ~ Karla in IL

[Guest guest]

Not a bad idea!! Definitely something to think about. ~~Ruth/REU

Re: What is allowable in this forum of discussion..??

Perhaps the moderators of this group could do what other groups I belong to do... they have a separate forum just for OT posts that only members of the main forum can join. Could name it OT4no-forced-vaccination or something. Anything is allowed to be posted in the OT forum, so then it is just an extension of the main forum and conversations can take place freely.

Just a suggestion.

[Guest guest]

Not a bad idea!! Definitely something to think about. ~~Ruth/REU

Re: What is allowable in this forum of discussion..??

Perhaps the moderators of this group could do what other groups I belong to do... they have a separate forum just for OT posts that only members of the main forum can join. Could name it OT4no-forced-vaccination or something. Anything is allowed to be posted in the OT forum, so then it is just an extension of the main forum and conversations can take place freely.

Just a suggestion.

[Guest guest]

Not a bad idea!! Definitely something to think about. ~~Ruth/REU

Re: What is allowable in this forum of discussion..??

Perhaps the moderators of this group could do what other groups I belong to do... they have a separate forum just for OT posts that only members of the main forum can join. Could name it OT4no-forced-vaccination or something. Anything is allowed to be posted in the OT forum, so then it is just an extension of the main forum and conversations can take place freely.

Just a suggestion.

[Guest guest]

Not a bad idea!! Definitely something to think about. ~~Ruth/REU

Re: What is allowable in this forum of discussion..??

Perhaps the moderators of this group could do what other groups I belong to do... they have a separate forum just for OT posts that only members of the main forum can join. Could name it OT4no-forced-vaccination or something. Anything is allowed to be posted in the OT forum, so then it is just an extension of the main forum and conversations can take place freely.

Just a suggestion.