Returned mail: User unknown

[Guest guest]

The original message was received at Sat, 25 Sep 1999 10:27:56 -0400 (EDT)

from root@localhost

*** ATTENTION ***

An e-mail you sent to an Internet destination could not be delivered.

The Internet address is listed in the section labeled:

" ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- " .

The reason your e-mail could not be delivered is listed in the section labeled:

" ----- Transcript of Session Follows ----- " .

The line beginning with " <<< " describes the specific reason your e-mail could

not be delivered. The next line contains a second error message which is a

general translation for other e-mail servers.

Please direct further questions regarding this message to the e-mail

administrator or Postmaster at that destination.

----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----

<dwarfism@...>

----- Transcript of session follows -----

.... while talking to pop.onelist.net.:

>>> RCPT To:<dwarfism@...>

<<< 553 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts (#5.7.1)

550 <dwarfism@...>... User unknown

--------------------

Final-Recipient: RFC822; dwarfism@...

Action: failed

Status: 5.1.1

Remote-MTA: DNS; pop.onelist.net

Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 553 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed

rcpthosts (#5.7.1)

Last-Attempt-Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 10:28:03 -0400 (EDT)

--------------------

Received: from ShortClown@...

by imo23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v22.4.) id iGNPa05746 (3867)

for <dwarfism@...>; Sat, 25 Sep 1999 10:27:56 -0400 (EDT)

Return-path: ShortClown@...

From: ShortClown@...

Message-ID: <de3dc6d7.251e35ec@...>

Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 10:27:56 EDT

Subject: Fwd: 3 IMPORTANT ?'s !

dwarfism@...

MIME-Version: 1.0

Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary= " part1_de3dc6d7.251e35ec_boundary "

X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 170

--part1_de3dc6d7.251e35ec_boundary

Content-Type: text/plain; charset= " us-ascii "

Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

--part1_de3dc6d7.251e35ec_boundary

Content-Type: message/rfc822

Content-Disposition: inline

Return-Path: <pcmlib2@...>

Received: from rly-yd02.mx.aol.com (rly-yd02.mail.aol.com [172.18.150.2]) by

air-yd03.mail.aol.com (v60.28) with ESMTP; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 14:25:59

-0400

Received: from tethys.co.ihc.com (tethys.ihc.com [159.212.70.7]) by

rly-yd02.mx.aol.com (v61.9) with ESMTP; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 14:25:46

-0400

Received: from [159.212.12.22] (helo=ihc.com)

by tethys.co.ihc.com with smtp (Exim 3.02 #1)

id 11Ua2e-0001pf-00

for shortclown@...; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 12:25:56 -0600

Received: from IHCROUTE-Message_Server by ihc.com

with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 12:25:45 -0600

Message-Id: <s7eb6dc9.060@...>

X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.2

Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 12:25:24 -0600

From: " PCMC Library Generic Login 2 " <pcmlib2@...>

<shortclown@...>

Subject: 3 IMPORTANT ?'s !

Mime-Version: 1.0

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

Content-Disposition: inline

Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

** High Priority **

, Mandy just loves the new card!!! Of all things~~~~ a talking

parrot. nbwhahahahaha

below is the email to send onto the list if you dont mind...

Whomever developed the CPAP should be put up on a pedestal and keep

there for life!!! Mandy had her first night on it, and everything

went very well. There were no alarms or bells, and Mandy had a good

night's sleep! She awoke with color in her cheeks and a jaunt in her

tiny walk on her arm crutches. It has been an exciting morning!!!

She is having a very hard time dealing with the loss of BONNIE from

Florida and thinks she will probably die the same way, so we are trying

to deal with that the best we can. It is SOOOO hard to have her just

not understand!

The medical team is watching Mandy on the CPAP through Sunday night and

then deciding if she will need the throat surgery.

We do have some very important questions., and hope that someone may be

able to a answer them.

1. Has anyone, who has had " severe central brain breathing patterning "

had difficulty with both short and long term memory? Did your

personality change, and if so, how long did it take to regain back to

where you were?

2. Has other achons had to deal with this " severe central brain

patterning, " and is there something you could share with us about it?

3. Has anyone has their 3rd and 4th tonsils (lingual tonsils) removed

because of obstructiveness?

If there is any info anyone could share., please send info to this

email address or to banock@...

Warmly,

The Hoggan Clan

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

When the feather fell in place,

no one expected a heart to be

touched as all of ours have

been . . .

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

--part1_de3dc6d7.251e35ec_boundary--

[Guest guest]

dgreenbird. Why do your posts come thru as Returned mail: User unknown? Address had permanent fatal errors. Unknown or illegal alias. Action failed. Then a very very long post of repeated old posts to the group. Am I missing something? Glad Day ~ Karla in IL

Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search.

[Guest guest]

The original message was received at 2008-02-22 18:32:55 -0500

from postoffice.local [10.0.0.1]

----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----

<dgreenbird@...>

-----Transcript of session follows -----

.... while talking to postoffice.local.:

>>> RCPT To:<dgreenbird@...>

<<< 550 5.1.1 unknown or illegal alias: dgreenbird@...

550 <dgreenbird@...>... User unknown

NSF-Compulsory-Vaccination

NSF-Compulsory-Vaccination

Messages In This Digest (6 Messages)

1a.

Re: FTC Petition and your vaccination rights.

From: Robt

1b.

Re: FTC Petition and your vaccination rights.

From: karla walsh

1c.

Re: FTC Petition and your vaccination rights.

From: Robt

2.

The number of vaccine critics continues to rise...

From: Ingrid Blank

3.

Immoral Drug Company Experiments on Russian Kids

From: Ingrid Blank

4a.

Re: Mercola and your vaccination rights

From: Dr. Rima Laibow

View All Topics | Create New Topic

Messages

1a.

Re: FTC Petition and your vaccination rights.

Posted by: "Robt "

aark83@...

dr.kathyjones

Thu Feb 21, 2008 12:56 pm (PST)

Hi to all,

I happen to be a school nurse/traditional

naturopath...what a combination. I have been doing my

homeowrk and it saddens my heart to see what mass

vaccination has done. That is why I am now a part of

the list. Though as a school nurse...I would like to

make an impact without jepordizing the very thing I

love...God's children. Therefore, if there are any

ideas to assist our natural cause that would be great.

Kathy APN, ND

--- karla walsh <faerie1952 > wrote:

> Thanks Ralph. One thing I have been thinking about

> is the creation of a uniform, standard AD, that we

> members and those concerned can take to our local

> newspaper/s, no matter what size they can afford. IF

> these standardized Ads keep showing up all over the

> country, maybe somebody will take notice, especially

> in the media. Exposure is a start.

> A collective, same kind of AD, with a noticable

> headline or logo, some basic information for people

> to see, on No_Vaccine_Awareness, vaccine rights,

> state exemption info, links to helpful vaccine

> sites with good information, possibly even vaccine

> injury info. AND some kind of instigation to get

> people to write to their politicians at local, state

> and federal level, at least about getting all three

> exemption for all states. Ads ending with official

> Foundation reference and endorsements, when

> possible.

> Perhaps even anti-vaccine physcians will rally

> and put their own ads Out There, as being

> No-vaccine practicioners, offering to help patients

> with vaccine freedom, rights and wishes. (HA - like

> that will happen anytime soon) But MAYBE - someday.

> Too many doctors are unwittingly (or willing)

> Pawns to BigPharma trickledown $$$, not sincere

> servants to their patients concerns..

> Most people and parents really dont know much

> about the dangers or options. That's maybe something

> we all could do, these Ads, to start with. Somehow

> this information needs to get across to all media,

> BigTime. Wake the eyes and ears of our country, for

> the babies.

> These vaccine issues are hard for people to hear,

> consider or accept. I know this because my own son

> has told me to stop forwarding No-Vaccine info to

> him. He just does not want to hear it, and believes

> the dogma of days of yore, and feels they are

> perfectly safe and a viable prevention. He is also

> a teacher and an educator. I fear so for his two

> tiny children, and I cry for them and their safety.

>

> I raised my children to think for themselves and

> question authority, so am not sure where all my

> son's stubboness is coming from, to not have an open

> mind about this important issue. My daugher, on the

> other hand, is proceeding with her fragile and

> nerveous attempt to keep her son vaccine-free. The

> first vaccinal wellbaby-visit for her son is

> tomorrow. I have the exemption paperwork and

> (no-sign office waiver order) for her and her

> boyfriend to sign and take. Wish them strength in

> this endevour. She, like many, does not want to make

> waves with authority, and does not look forward to

> any coersive battle. But I feel she knows this is

> an important thing to do for her baby. I hope my

> influence on her, will save the proverbial.....one

> child at a time. Heaven help US.

> Glad Day ~ Karla in IL

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with

> Mobile. Try it now.

Back to top

Reply to sender

|

Reply to group

|

Reply via web post

Messages in this topic (5)

1b.

Re: FTC Petition and your vaccination rights.

Posted by: "karla walsh"

faerie1952@...

faerie1952

Thu Feb 21, 2008 2:31 pm (PST)

Hullo Kathy. I commend you for wanting to help the children. In your nursing capacity, I am sure you would see more of the autism, learning problems, and health issue at your school.

I dont know what you could do, within your school, to help or get information to partents, without jeopardizing your job. You certainly wouldnt want to draw attention with things like an anti-vaccine bumper sticker. I dont know how much schools are pressured by the state, their requirements and vaccine reporting, and push from CDC, health organizations, etc., to get All those kids vaccinated. Somewhere along the line, BigPharma (DEATH) monies and influence are surely deeply embedded in the schools too.

But you could consider an attempt to get flyers out to peoples doorstep and mailboxes. Put pertinent info of the dangers, in any such flyers, as well as links to good information on the net, and about your state's exemptions, as well as vaccination rights. Thats a start. People really dont have a clue, for the most part. If you havent seen Tocco's video, be sure to do that. Teach and Encourage people to help you, BUT keep a low-profile, so your job is not compromised

Heck, carry flyers around, and when you see parent's with small infants or children, or pregnant mom's, even at the Macs! ...Hand them a flyer (with a sincere smile) Get your friends and family to disperse them too, and get the word out. Find local businesses (restaurants, baby stores, banks, YMCA's, grocers, health food stores, etc) and medical offices that might avail such posters or flyers, (chiropractors, doctors and ped's, HA!, dentists, optomitrists, .....Anyone!) who would do that for you. Then keep flyers stocked for them. That way you would notice the interest, and know your flyer is being read, and how much interest there may be. And Know tbat you will be saving a child (or many), along the way.

We need more hands on, pro-active local activities to let people Know of the dangers and informed choices. And good information. Thanks for being a No-Vaccine Warrior.

Glad Day ~ Karla in IL

---------------------------------

Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.

Back to top

Reply to sender

|

Reply to group

|

Reply via web post

Messages in this topic (5)

1c.

Re: FTC Petition and your vaccination rights.

Posted by: "Robt "

aark83@...

dr.kathyjones

Thu Feb 21, 2008 6:51 pm (PST)

Karla,

Will do! I have already started gathering informational sites & have placed it on a sheet called " Educate before you vaccinate " Resource list. I would like to buy the DVD's to have on hand to carry in my van too, if they are not to costly. At least I could have some part in savings Gods children before man destroys them. Keep in touch, secretively, I would love to be apart of the grass roots movement, write a book like the " The secret movement of the school nurse " Who knows it could be a best seller....Kathy

karla walsh <faerie1952 > wrote:

Hullo Kathy. I commend you for wanting to help the children. In your nursing capacity, I am sure you would see more of the autism, learning problems, and health issue at your school.

I dont know what you could do, within your school, to help or get information to partents, without jeopardizing your job. You certainly wouldnt want to draw attention with things like an anti-vaccine bumper sticker. I dont know how much schools are pressured by the state, their requirements and vaccine reporting, and push from CDC, health organizations, etc., to get All those kids vaccinated. Somewhere along the line, BigPharma (DEATH) monies and influence are surely deeply embedded in the schools too.

But you could consider an attempt to get flyers out to peoples doorstep and mailboxes. Put pertinent info of the dangers, in any such flyers, as well as links to good information on the net, and about your state's exemptions, as well as vaccination rights. Thats a start. People really dont have a clue, for the most part. If you havent seen Tocco's video, be sure to do that. Teach and Encourage people to help you, BUT keep a low-profile, so your job is not compromised

Heck, carry flyers around, and when you see parent's with small infants or children, or pregnant mom's, even at the Macs! ...Hand them a flyer (with a sincere smile) Get your friends and family to disperse them too, and get the word out. Find local businesses (restaurants, baby stores, banks, YMCA's, grocers, health food stores, etc) and medical offices that might avail such posters or flyers, (chiropractors, doctors and ped's, HA!, dentists, optomitrists, .....Anyone!) who would do that for you. Then keep flyers stocked for them. That way you would notice the interest, and know your flyer is being read, and how much interest there may be. And Know tbat you will be saving a child (or many), along the way.

We need more hands on, pro-active local activities to let people Know of the dangers and informed choices. And good information. Thanks for being a No-Vaccine Warrior.

Glad Day ~ Karla in IL

---------------------------------

Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.

Back to top

Reply to sender

|

Reply to group

|

Reply via web post

Messages in this topic (5)

2.

The number of vaccine critics continues to rise...

Posted by: "Ingrid Blank"

enb1@...

zauberfeechen

Thu Feb 21, 2008 11:01 pm (PST)

http://www.whale.to/m/critics.html

No virus found in this outgoing message.

Checked by AVG Free Edition.

Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.7/1283 - Release Date: 02/16/2008

14:16

Back to top

Reply to sender

|

Reply to group

|

Reply via web post

Messages in this topic (1)

3.

Immoral Drug Company Experiments on Russian Kids

Posted by: "Ingrid Blank"

enb1@...

zauberfeechen

Thu Feb 21, 2008 11:01 pm (PST)

This dates back to last year.

Immoral Drug Company Experiments on Russian Kids

A Russian hospital is being investigated for allegedly illegally testing

GlaxoKline vaccines on toddlers, making them ill and hampering their

development. GlaxoKline denied the claims, saying there was evidence of

neither adverse events nor misconduct.

The vaccines were tested on over 100 children aged 1 to 2. Prosecutors claim

that parents were not properly informed, and thought that the vaccinations

were routine.

It was also alleged that sick children had been illegally used in the

clinical trials; only healthy children were allowed to receive the vaccine

according to the contract. One girl had a neurological illness that

progressed quickly after the vaccination.

Medscape March 2, 2007

Reuters March 2, 2007

----------------------------------------------------------

----

Dr. Mercola's Comment:

If you don't already understand this simple and basic fact from the

many previous stories I have posted on this topic, I hope this story is a

powerful illustration of the fact that nearly all drug companies are more

motivated to boost their bottom line than to help people.

Drug companies like GlaxoKline will use whatever means they can

to get around already favorable laws. But all they end up doing is proving,

again and again, that vaccines aren't safe, especially for innocent and

defenseless children.

The vaccine issue is one of the most controversial topics in health,

and typically one of the last positions a conventionally trained physician

will objectively and seriously evaluate.

However, if a physician is intellectually honest and open to the facts

they study they will discover the truth. This is the process I went through

as I learned more about the risks of vaccines. I began to see hundreds of

brain-injured children in my own practice who had been damaged by vaccines,

and my views changed quite dramatically.

Hopefully, someday conventional medicine as a whole will also finally

admit their mistake about vaccines and give up the pretense they do anyone

any good. If you're still skeptical about the harm vaccines do, learn more

about why Amish children don't have the same problem.

On Vital Votes, Dr. Gene Weber from Yakima, Washington adds:

" There is absolutely no excuse for this kind of abuse by any drug

company or any kind of company for that matter. Now that we can have drugs

approved by the FDA in as little as 6 months, we are all subjected to the

same kinds of drug trials here.

" We are basically guinea pigs for the drug companies use and abuse.

I believe that we should all practice what we are taught in the early

years, 'just say no to drugs.' "

Other responses to this article can be viewed at Vital Votes, and you

can add your own thoughts or vote on comments by first registering at Vital

Votes.

http://www.mercola.com/2007/mar/24/immoral-drug-company-experiments-on-russi

an-kids.htm

Related Articles:

Five Patients Die of Liver Failure in NIH Hepatitis B Drug Trial

UK Drug Trial Victim May Lose His Fingers, Toes

Drug Companies' Shameful Secrets

----------------------------------------------------------

----

Return to Table of Contents #927

No virus found in this outgoing message.

Checked by AVG Free Edition.

Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.7/1283 - Release Date: 02/16/2008

14:16

Back to top

Reply to sender

|

Reply to group

|

Reply via web post

Messages in this topic (1)

4a.

Re: Mercola and your vaccination rights

Posted by: "Dr. Rima Laibow"

releyes@...

citizenspetition

Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:10 am (PST)

Dear Alan,

Thanks for your accurate and important post. I have been very concerned

about the same issues but, since I have been traveling have not had the

chance to make those points. In fact, the Natural Solutions Foundation is

hard at work on a State by State exemption ebook (we are a little behind

schedule but it will be out shortly) that will allow people to have accurate

and helpful information.

I hope that you will also join our special no-forced-vaccine forum for

lawyers, no-forced-vaccination-lawyers/.

Your input is most appreciated.

Yours in health and freedom,

Dr. Rima

Rima E. Laibow, MD

Medical Director

Natural Solutions Foundation

www.HealthFreedomUSA.org

On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 4:33 PM, Alan G. , Esq. <lawpapa@....com>

wrote:

> I have great respect for Dr. Mercola's site's information about vaccine

> health concerns (and other health information, generally--I'm a regular

> viewer). However, his information about vaccine exemptions and legal rights

> contains errors, and so should be avoided by anyone serious about avoiding

> vaccines legally. I say this as one of the few attorneys in the country who

> has thoroughly researched vaccine exemption law--state statutes

> and regulations, federal statutes and regulations, the Constitutional

> rights, federal and state case law...I've assisted dozens of individuals and

> families in a variety of circumstances, around the country--schools,

> daycares, colleges, births, custody disputes, immigration, foreign

> adoptions, healthcare employees and medical students, and am a published

> writer on the topic.

>

> I have offered to assist Dr. Mercola and his staff for free on more than

> one occasion, but he/they have not responded to my offers. His information

> about legal rights to avoid vaccines, like that of many other sites with

> information from non-attorneys, appears to address more with what they feel

> our rights *should* be rather than providing any true insight or

> understanding of what our rights actually *are.* As a mercola fan

> (otherwise), this has been a great disappointment for me, and should be a

> concern for those who oppose vaccinations.

>

> Alan G. , Esq.

> P.O. Box 3473

> Chapel Hill, NC 27515-3473

> 919-960-5172

> www.alanphillipslaw.com

> www.vaccinerights.com

>

>

>

> * Mercola and your vaccination rights.

>

> This is what Dr. Mercola suggests to get out of those MANDATORY

> vaccination laws. They all violate your constitutional rights but no one

> has gotten a case to the supreme court yet.

>

> Doug L. Bullock

>

> How To Legally Avoid Unwanted Immunizations Of All Kinds

>

> As you read this work and put its principles into practice, there are two

> basic axioms you never want to forget. They are the rock upon which all your

> actions are based.

>

> 1.

>

> *Nobody, anywhere or any time and under any circumstances has the

> right or power in this country to immunize you or your children against your

> will and conviction.** If they attempt to do so, you can legally

> charge them with " assault with a deadly weapon " and have the full resources

> of our laws behind you.*

> 2.

>

> *At all times in attempting to avoid unwanted immunization, you have

> the Law of the Land behind you. Those who would try to vaccinate you against

> your will are on very shaky ground. Into every compulsory immunization law

> in America are written legal exceptions and waivers which are there

> specifically to protect you from the attempted tyranny of officialdom. It is

> not only your right, but your obligation to use them, if this is what your

> conscience tells you.*

>

> *Article I*

> In all your contacts with any member of the school, public health, or

> legal establishment, always remain calm, courteous, and humbly reverent

> toward their position. You are only asking of them that which the law duty

> binds them to give you. There is no reason, or advantage, to be gained by

> antagonizing them.

>

> Most of these officials believe they are discharging their trust as

> outlined by law. If they are overstepping the law, then you must very

> diplomatically bring the true facts to their attention, but without

> attempting to belittle them.

>

> The more you can preserve their ego, the more easily and quickly you are

> likely to get what you desire - a waiver of immunization.

>

> *Rule No. 1*: Do not harass, belittle, or antagonize officials

> unnecessarily.

>

> *Article 2*

> All compulsory laws concerning vaccination (including the military)

> contain exceptions and waivers. It is these protections placed in the laws

> that you may legally use to exclude yourself and your children.

> Surprisingly, these exceptions were placed there, not for your sake

> (although you may take advantage of them), but for the protection of the

> establishment.

>

> How is this? Let us assume that these exceptions were not there and

> everyone was actually forced to be immunized. Should a child die or become

> mentally or physically disabled, the parent would have the perfect case to

> sue the doctor, the school, the health department, and even the state

> legislature for enormous damages.

>

> Since they allowed no exceptions, they must accept full responsibility for

> all the adverse consequences of the law.

>

> However, if exception waivers are placed in the law, the responsibility is

> then transferred back to the parent. If a child should be injured by

> immunization, the officials can say, " Well, the parent should have exempted

> him if they thought there was any danger. "

>

> Therefore, there is in truth no such thing as a compulsory vaccination law

> in this country. They are *ALL*, in essence,* voluntary*. The problem is

> that practically no one in authority will let you know this fact.

>

> *Rule No. 2*: There are no compulsory vaccination laws. All are voluntary,

> and you are held responsible for the adverse results upon you or your

> children.

>

> *Article 3*

> While all immunization laws have exceptions you can use, the wording in

> each state differs, and you must know the exact wording for your state to

> make the proper request of waiver. This information can be obtained in one

> of two ways.

>

> 1.

>

> Go to the reference section of your local library- look in the State

> Statute Revised Law Book under Public Health Law or Communicable Disease

> sections. The list of immunization requirements will appear first and then

> the exemptions will be given. Usually one or two provisions will be listed:

> either on religious or medical grounds or both.

> 2.

>

> You may call or write your state representative and ask for a copy

> of the immunization laws in your state. Making this available is part of his

> job, and it will be sent promptly.

>

> *Rule No. 3*: Know your own state law so that you can conform to its exact

> requirements for exemption.

>

> *Article 4*

> There are two basic reasons for exception - medical or religious. Which

> one you choose will often depend upon the wording of the law in your state

> and your personal convictions.

>

> We shall discuss medical exemption first. While laws do vary, nearly all

> states require that a note or certificate of waiver be submitted by a

> physician licensed in the state of residence. In some areas where states are

> small and people continually travel from one to another for business, a

> statement from a physician in a contiguous state will be accepted.

>

> In this letter it is usually necessary to state the reason for the

> requested waiver and the length of time it should extend. Many laws limit

> all such letters to a school year and they must be renewed each fall.

>

> The two most valid reasons for medical waiver are " the fear of allergic

> reaction in a sensitive child " and " to prevent possible damage to a weakened

> immune system. " Both of these can occur in a child who has been immunized,

> and since no one but the physician and the parent will be held responsible

> for their consequences, it is up to them to protect the child.

>

> It is possible that some states may require the letter from an M.D. or D.O.,

> but many will allow an exemption letter from a chiropractor if it is

> courteously and properly written, as outlined above.

>

> *Rule No. 4*: Medical waivers are always valid but must be written to fit

> each state law and often need to be renewed annually.

>

> *Article 5*

> The foregoing may work for school exemptions, but are there any such

> waivers in the Armed Forces? Yes. All branches of the Service provide

> " immunization waivers. "

>

> Again, if they did not you could sue them for millions of dollars if a

> reaction occurred from their immunizations. Because of these waiver

> provisions, you become responsible if you react.

>

> When you first sign up or enlist, you must state your objection to the

> vaccinations and tell whether it is " religious conscience " or medical

> reasons, such as allergies or a low tolerance to medication of any kind. If

> you do not show objection at this time, you have given the military the

> right to do what they will with you.

>

> If there is any difficulty, the same rules apply here as in the school

> program. Never forget, even though you may be in the Service, no one has the

> right to immunize you against your will. You do not give up your

> constitutional rights when you join the Armed Forces.

>

> *Rule No. 5*: The rules that govern school vaccination exemption also

> apply to the military. Never let anyone tell you otherwise. They do not

> know, or are hiding, the facts of the law.

>

> *Article 6*

> *What about international travel? May I go around the world without

> vaccination?*

>

> The World Health Organization (WHO) in Geneva grants American visitors the

> right to REFUSE shots when traveling internationally. However, if an area

> you wish to enter is infected, you may be detained until the public health

> servant gives you the " go " (at his discretion).

>

> Thousands travel world-wide each year without shots - so you may if that

> is your choice. Many of our co-workers have traveled over much of the world

> and have never taken any immunizations, nor were they ever detained.

>

> It would be wise to request a copy of Foreign Rules and Regulations, Part

> 71, Title 42, on immunization when you receive your passport. Never forget

> the basic rule, " No one will vaccinate you against your will because by

> doing so they assume full responsibility for the consequences both legal and

> medical. "

>

> *Rule No. 7*: You may travel wherever you wish in the world without

> vaccination. The worst that can happen is that in very rare circumstances

> you may be detained temporarily.

>

> *Some Important Details*

> The above seven articles constitute all the basic rules. However, there

> are many important little " tricks of the trade " to having your legal

> requests honored. These will now be discussed.

>

> While waivers and exemptions are written into all laws on immunization,

> most public health officials, doctors, and especially school officials are

> loathe to discuss their existence when questioned, and rarely, to our

> knowledge, volunteer such information.

>

> A top Philadelphia school official was on the radio with the unequivocal

> statement, " NO SHOTS, NO SCHOOL. "

>

> This statement is of course completely counter to state law, with which

> presumably he is familiar. Such unwarranted dogmatism is common in the

> people you will encounter. Once the end of their legitimate authority has

> been reached, they will use their next most powerful weapon - INTIMIDATION.

>

> They will threaten to keep your child out of school, take him from you, or

> send you to jail. These are all idle threats because they can do none of

> these thing, if you follow our simple instructions.

>

> The basic rules have been given to you, but there are a few important

> details to be considered if the officials start on this course of unlawful

> intimidation.

>

> 1.

>

> *You must send a letter* to the school to inform the education

> officials of your stand. A phone call is not legal. It can be a note from

> your doctor, minister, or a notarized letter from you stating your sincere

> objections to the immunization. If you do not do this and fail to have your

> child immunized, it could be construed as negligence on your part and in

> some states there is a possibility of legal action against you.

> 2.

>

> If the school should refuse to honor your letter, request that they

> give you a statement in writing outlining their reasons for refusal. If they

> won't, *their refusal is legally invalid*, and your letter stands;

> they must enroll your child. If they do (they rarely will) they take the

> risk of incriminating themselves, especially if they are acting contrary (as

> is common) to what is specified in the law concerning your rights for

> exemption. Remember they are on tenuous ground, not you. They are your

> servants, you are not their servant. If worst comes to worst and you have a

> very knowledgeable official who writes you a refusal and states accurately

> the lawful reasons for refusal, he will also in a negative way tell you what

> the accepted exemptions are, and then you can go about meeting them, by one

> of the routes suggested in this handout.

> 3.

>

> Child neglect is the one legal point you want to avoid at all costs.

> No legal parent or guardian can be charged with neglect unless he shows

> complete lack of concern or action to be more informed. Stripped of legal

> jargon, this simply means that if you can show that you have investigated

> the situation, have come to a specific decision concerning immunizations,

> and have informed the authorities of the same, no neglect charge can be

> brought. Neglect can be brought only when it can be shown that you have

> failed to have your children immunized, not out of respect for their medical

> or spiritual integrity, but only because you were too concerned with other

> matters.

> 4.

>

> At times there may be a question of whether you have given or

> withdrawn legal consent. Legal consent is dependent upon being properly

> informed on both the advantages and the risks in any choice or decision you

> make. In other words, if a physician were to tell you that vaccination is

> perfectly safe and effective to obtain your consent, such consent would not

> be legal because he lied and you have not been properly informed.

> Conversely, it could be argued that non-consent is not legal if you are not

> fully informed about the risks and advantages of immunizations.

> 5.

>

> What do I do if everyone refuses to give me a waiver?

>

> This would be an extremely rare circumstance. But should it happen,

> you are not left without resources. Here is where we pull out one of our big

> guns. Send notarized letters by certified mail to the vaccine laboratory

> which makes the shot (ask your doctor for the address), to the doctor who is

> to administer the shot, to your school principal,to the school board, and to

> your local health department.

>

> In these letters make it clear that since they have refused to give

> you a duly requested waiver, you can no longer be held responsible for what

> may happen to your child if they force these shots upon him. You then state

> that you will allow immunization if each will present you with a written

> signed guarantee of safety and effectiveness of the vaccine and that they

> will consent to assume full responsibility for any and all adverse reactions

> that your child may develop from the required shots. Of course none will

> give you such a guarantee. They cannot do so because all vaccines are

> considered potentially highly toxic. We have yet to hear of an instance of

> further harassment of parents after such letters have been sent.

>

>

> That's about all that is needed to obtain the necessary exemptions for

> your children. All that has been said in this last section (1 to 5) is also

> applicable to the military and international travel, if required.

>

> *Potpourri of Ammunition*

> " As long as each individual who opposes vaccines has sincere objections,

> states them in writing, and signs his name - it is considered legal and

> proper action and must therefore be honored. "

>

> " Since many medical controversies exist surrounding immunization, drugs,

> and various other medications, it mandates that each individual have the

> right to control his own decisions and freedom of choice; anything less

> would be contrary to the constitutional laws that protect the citizens'

> rights. "

>

> " When you deal with school officials and lawyers, you are playing with

> legal terminology - move the wrong words around and you get hung. " The

> terminology used in this booklet has worked before and should work again.

>

> " It is important to state your objections in such a way that it complies

> with your state's exemption provisions. They must then accept your request;

> if they do not, they are breaking their own law. " That is why it is

> absolutely essential that you know your own state law word for word before

> submitting your objection.

>

> " According to CDC (the federal Communicable Disease Center in Atlanta,

> Georgia), physicians are required to first inform their patients of the

> risks involved before they consent to vaccines. " If they do not do so, it is

> prima facie evidence of deceit or negligence on the part of the physician.

>

> This regulation by the federal government would also seem to assume that

> the patient has the right to refuse if he feels that the risks are too

> great. If this is so, is not the federal government on record as supporting

> voluntary immunization and, by obvious implication, against state-enforced

> compulsory immunization?

>

> Should you ever have to go to court, or what is more likely, to appear

> before a " kangaroo " court of school and health department officials, here is

> some class A evidence you might find useful to mention.

>

> -

>

> No vaccine carries any guarantee of protection from the laboratory

> that produced it or the doctor who administered it.

> -

>

> The U.S. military allows no-nonsense " immunizations waivers. "

> -

>

> There is *NO FEDERAL LAW* on immunizations. They don't dare. Their

> lawyers know the consequences.

> -

>

> Your rights have been infringed upon by officials attempting to use

> force against your will.

>

> Most state officials like a nice, stress-free job. When you send in your

> objections and refuse to fit their ordered world by not having your children

> immunized, you make waves.

>

> This rocks their quiet existence, and there are only two ways their life

> can become orderly again: either by forcing you to their will or acquiescing

> to yours. What you must do to obtain an early waiver is to make the latter

> the easiest path for them.

>

> At first, however, an attempt will usually be made to bend you to their

> will by some form of intimidation. Many uninformed parents give in to this

> tack, and so it is tried again and again.

>

> If you are adequately informed, as a reader of this publication should be,

> you will let the officials know in no uncertain terms that you understand

> your rights under the law and will not stand for any such shilly-shallying.

> Invariably, once they discover you are adamant and acquainted with the state

> law, your waiver will be rapidly forthcoming.

>

> *An Acknowledgment*

> The greatest part of the material on the first four pages is taken from

> the work of Mrs. Grace Girdwain, of Burbank, Illinois. Our staff has

> rearranged and edited the information, but we wish the full credit for its

> existence to go to this courageous woman who has for twelve years worked

> arduously, without compensation, to help her fellow Americans obtain their

> legal rights.

>

> The following is an example of the state of Illionois law (where I live)

> relating to immunizations. Illinois, like most states has no philosophical

> objection, but does have a religious one.

>

> Illinois Administrative Code Title 77: Public Health

> Chapter I: Department of Public Health

> Subchapter i: Maternal and Child Health

> Part 665 Child Health Examination Code

> Subpart E: Exceptions

>

> *Section 665.510 Objection of Parent or Legal Guardian*

>

> Parent or legal guardian of a student may object to health examinations,

> immunizations, vision, and hearing screening tests, and dental health

> examinations for their children on religious grounds. If a religious

> objection is made, a written and signed statement from the parent or legal

> guardian detailing such objections must be presented to the local school

> authority.

>

> General philosophical or moral reluctance to allow physical examinations,

> immunizations, vision and hearing screening, and dental examinations will

> not provide a sufficient basis for an exception to statutory requirements.

>

> The parent or legal guardian must be informed by the local school

> authority of measles outbreak control exclusion procedures per IDPH rules.

> The Control of Communicable Diseases (77 Ill. Adm. Code 690) at the time

> such objection is presented.

>

> *Section 665.520 Medical Objections*

>

> a) Any medical objections to an immunization must be:

>

> 1) Made by a physician licensed to practice medicine in all its branches

> indicating what the medical condition is.

>

> 2) Endorsed and signed by the physician on the certificate of child health

> examination and placed on file in the child's permanent record.

>

> Should the condition of the child later permit immunization, this

> requirement will then have to be met. Parents or legal guardians must be

> informed of measles outbreak control exclusion procedures when such

> objection is presented per Section 665.510.

>

>

>

>

Back to top

Reply to sender

|

Reply to group

|

Reply via web post

Messages in this topic (5)

Recent Activity

9

New Members

Visit Your Group

Latest product news Join Mod. Central stay connected.

New business? Get new customers. List your web site in Search.

Best of Y! Groups Check it out and nominate your group to be featured.

Need to Reply?

Click one of the "Reply" links to respond to a specific message in the Daily Digest.

Create New Topic |

Visit Your Group on the Web

Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls | Members | Calendar

Change settings via the Web ( ID required)

Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Individual | Switch format to Traditional

Visit Your Group |

Terms of Use |

Unsubscribe