Guest guest Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 If anyone has ever heard anything about Menkes Disease being caused by vaccines, please let me know as soon as possible. I have been contacted by a woman who has a six month old child (boy) who received a series of shots, one was the dreaded DTP, and began having seizures within a few days. After running numerous tests the doctors ruled out vaccine damage (you know it!) and said that a brain scan shows white matter. Further tests then revealed Menkes Disease. After doing a little research I learned that contrary to what the doctors told this mother, about one-third of cases result from new mutations in the gene and occur in people with no history of the disorder in their family. It is far too suspicious that seizures never occurred prior to the vaccines given nor did he show any symptoms of the disease following birth. According to Wikipedia: " Menkes disease (also called the kinky hair disease or Menkes kinky hair syndrome) is a disorder that affects copper levels in the body. It is characterized by sparse and coarse hair, growth failure, and deterioration of the nervous system. Onset of Menkes syndrome typically begins during infancy. Signs and symptoms of this disorder include weak muscle tone (hypotonia), sagging facial features, seizures, mental retardation, and developmental delay. The patients have brittle hair and metaphyseal widening. In rare cases, symptoms begin later in childhood and are less severe. It is a X-linked recessive disorder, and is therefore considerably more common in males: females require two defective alleles to develop the disease. Affected infants may be born prematurely. Symptoms appear during infancy and are largely a result of abnormal intestinal copper absorption with secondary deficiency in copper-dependent mitochonrial enzymes. Normal or slightly slowed development may proceed for 2 to 3 months, and then there will be severe developmental delay and a loss of early developmental skills. Menkes Disease is also characterized by seizures, failure to thrive, subnormal body temperature, and strikingly peculiar hair, which is kinky, colorless or steel-colored, and easily broken. There can be extensive neurodegeneration in the gray matter of the brain.[2] Arteries in the brain can also be twisted with frayed and split inner walls. This can lead to rupture or blockage of the arteries. Weakened bones (osteoporosis) may result in fractures. " They have started this infant on daily copper shots, the only known treatment and, of course, he is on a few different seizure medications. If you know anything about Menkes or have information I could forward to this mother on possible link between vaccine damage and Menkes, I would appreciate it. ~ a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 Hullo a, I dont know where you found information about Menke's developing that was not an inherited disease. And there wasnt enough info about the child, how he was tested, was there possibilily of any misdiagnosis, or how severe his case is, or what all his known symtoms are at 6 months of age, including in his developmental skills and growth (or lack of them). In the most severe cases, they are saying copper replacement does little good. In other cases it has been found that there is too much copper, but is not being utilized. Have you found any reference to Menke's-LIKE disease caused from other conditions? Has his thyroid been check thoroughly? Here is just a bit of information *Mercury disturbs the metabolism of copper and zinc which are two minerals critical to thyroid function. *Mercury causes disruptions to the immune system functioning and promotes the production of IgG and IgE autoantibodies which also are involved in autoimmune thyroid disease. *Different forms of mercury, organic or inorganic, have different effects on the thyroid. Milk and quite likely estrogen cause an increase in the absorption of mercury. *Selenium is the key mineral which protects the body from mercury toxicity. *Mercury gets into our bodies in a variety of ways including vaccinations. And as many of us have more recently discovered, even from disposable diapers. Best of luck to the little feller. If there are any doctors onboard, they may have some better ideas or information for you. Glad Day ~ Karla in IL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 Hullo a, I dont know where you found information about Menke's developing that was not an inherited disease. And there wasnt enough info about the child, how he was tested, was there possibilily of any misdiagnosis, or how severe his case is, or what all his known symtoms are at 6 months of age, including in his developmental skills and growth (or lack of them). In the most severe cases, they are saying copper replacement does little good. In other cases it has been found that there is too much copper, but is not being utilized. Have you found any reference to Menke's-LIKE disease caused from other conditions? Has his thyroid been check thoroughly? Here is just a bit of information *Mercury disturbs the metabolism of copper and zinc which are two minerals critical to thyroid function. *Mercury causes disruptions to the immune system functioning and promotes the production of IgG and IgE autoantibodies which also are involved in autoimmune thyroid disease. *Different forms of mercury, organic or inorganic, have different effects on the thyroid. Milk and quite likely estrogen cause an increase in the absorption of mercury. *Selenium is the key mineral which protects the body from mercury toxicity. *Mercury gets into our bodies in a variety of ways including vaccinations. And as many of us have more recently discovered, even from disposable diapers. Best of luck to the little feller. If there are any doctors onboard, they may have some better ideas or information for you. Glad Day ~ Karla in IL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 Thanks, Karla for the info. I wish I knew more but this boy's condition but it is the sister of the mother who has been contacting me. The mother is completely in the hands of the medical profession and is somewhat resistant to natural therapies. When the doctors told her that it was not the vaccines - merely a coincidence that seizures began just three days after receiving a series of shots - she believed them. In my research on Menkes I learned that about one-third of cases result from new mutations in the gene and occur in people with no history of the disorder in their family. Also, there is a connection between copper deficiency and demyelinating disease so why would it not be a possibility that this damage occurred as a result of the vaccine and thus led to the mutation of the gene? The only therapy the medical profession uses to treat Menkes is daily subcutaneous copper injections and this therapy is only successful a small percentage of the time. Nearly 50% of Menkes patients derive no benefit from this therapy and die at a very early age, between 3 and 5 years old. This is truly a tragic diagnosis for this mother. Does this not sound similar to " mitochondrial disorder " being an underlying condition of autism or, as is quite possible, vaccines caused or triggered the disorder? What if this large number of cases of Menkes, occuring post birth as a gene mutation, is just another possible disease that vaccinations can trigger or cause? Any thoughts on this topic, let me know. ~ a > > Hullo a, I dont know where you found information about Menke's developing that was not an inherited disease. And there wasnt enough info about the child, how he was tested, was there possibilily of any misdiagnosis, or how severe his case is, or what all his known symtoms are at 6 months of age, including in his developmental skills and growth (or lack of them). In the most severe cases, they are saying copper replacement does little good. > In other cases it has been found that there is too much copper, but is not being utilized. Have you found any reference to Menke's-LIKE disease caused from other conditions? Has his thyroid been check thoroughly? > Here is just a bit of information > *Mercury disturbs the metabolism of copper and zinc which are two minerals critical to thyroid function. > *Mercury causes disruptions to the immune system functioning and promotes the production of IgG and IgE autoantibodies which also are involved in autoimmune thyroid disease. > *Different forms of mercury, organic or inorganic, have different effects on the thyroid. Milk and quite likely estrogen cause an increase in the absorption of mercury. > *Selenium is the key mineral which protects the body from mercury toxicity. > *Mercury gets into our bodies in a variety of ways including vaccinations. And as many of us have more recently discovered, even from disposable diapers. > > Best of luck to the little feller. If there are any doctors onboard, they may have some better ideas or information for you. Glad Day ~ Karla in IL > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2008 Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 I just got around to watching the video ,very informative. This kind of reinforces my theory that with all the different kinds of diseases, conditions and illness's and different effects on humans....it has to be something that we all (humans) are eating/drinking (this would be a common factor) and the various levels of impairment from these effects are not nessesarily the same for everyone of us,probably because we don't all consume the same amounts of these toxins (a seperation factor) just the short version of my thoughts on how we are all at risk of being affected (eating/drinking) and why some people seem to be less effected than others (less consumption of toxins...eat/drink less) Sorry if this doesn't make sense...my head is still reeling from the video! I thought I had come across info awhile back that list MSG as an ingredient in vaccines..anyone know of this? JackieTrina Radford <miiitymous@...> wrote: One more time, a possible cause to the mitochondrial disorder. http://tinyurl.com/3g6vc4 I really believe there is a connection! prstein10 <a.Rothsteinmedicinefreeliving> wrote: Thanks, Karla for the info. I wish I knew more but this boy'scondition but it is the sister of the mother who has been contactingme. The mother is completely in the hands of the medical professionand is somewhat resistant to natural therapies. When the doctors toldher that it was not the vaccines - merely a coincidence that seizuresbegan just three days after receiving a series of shots - she believedthem. In my research on Menkes I learned that about one-third of casesresult from new mutations in the gene and occur in people with nohistory of the disorder in their family. Also, there is a connectionbetween copper deficiency and demyelinating disease so why would itnot be a possibility that this damage occurred as a result of thevaccine and thus led to the mutation of the gene? The only therapy the medical profession uses to treat Menkes is dailysubcutaneous copper injections and this therapy is only successful asmall percentage of the time. Nearly 50% of Menkes patients derive nobenefit from this therapy and die at a very early age, between 3 and 5years old. This is truly a tragic diagnosis for this mother. Does this not sound similar to "mitochondrial disorder" being anunderlying condition of autism or, as is quite possible, vaccinescaused or triggered the disorder? What if this large number of casesof Menkes, occuring post birth as a gene mutation, is just anotherpossible disease that vaccinations can trigger or cause? Any thoughts on this topic, let me know.~ a>> Hullo a, I dont know where you found information about Menke'sdeveloping that was not an inherited disease. And there wasnt enoughinfo about the child, how he was tested, was there possibilily of anymisdiagnosis, or how severe his case is, or what all his known symtomsare at 6 months of age, including in his developmental skills andgrowth (or lack of them). In the most severe cases, they are sayingcopper replacement does little good. > In other cases it has been found that there is too much copper,but is not being utilized. Have you found any reference toMenke's-LIKE disease caused from other conditions? Has his thyroidbeen check thoroughly? > Here is just a bit of information> *Mercury disturbs the metabolism of copper and zinc which aretwo minerals critical to thyroid function.> *Mercury causes disruptions to the immune system functioning andpromotes the production of IgG and IgE autoantibodies which also areinvolved in autoimmune thyroid disease.> *Different forms of mercury, organic or inorganic, havedifferent effects on the thyroid. Milk and quite likely estrogencause an increase in the absorption of mercury.> *Selenium is the key mineral which protects the body frommercury toxicity. > *Mercury gets into our bodies in a variety of ways includingvaccinations. And as many of us have more recently discovered, evenfrom disposable diapers. > > Best of luck to the little feller. If there are any doctorsonboard, they may have some better ideas or information for you. GladDay ~ Karla in IL>Trina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2008 Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 I just got around to watching the video ,very informative. This kind of reinforces my theory that with all the different kinds of diseases, conditions and illness's and different effects on humans....it has to be something that we all (humans) are eating/drinking (this would be a common factor) and the various levels of impairment from these effects are not nessesarily the same for everyone of us,probably because we don't all consume the same amounts of these toxins (a seperation factor) just the short version of my thoughts on how we are all at risk of being affected (eating/drinking) and why some people seem to be less effected than others (less consumption of toxins...eat/drink less) Sorry if this doesn't make sense...my head is still reeling from the video! I thought I had come across info awhile back that list MSG as an ingredient in vaccines..anyone know of this? JackieTrina Radford <miiitymous@...> wrote: One more time, a possible cause to the mitochondrial disorder. http://tinyurl.com/3g6vc4 I really believe there is a connection! prstein10 <a.Rothsteinmedicinefreeliving> wrote: Thanks, Karla for the info. I wish I knew more but this boy'scondition but it is the sister of the mother who has been contactingme. The mother is completely in the hands of the medical professionand is somewhat resistant to natural therapies. When the doctors toldher that it was not the vaccines - merely a coincidence that seizuresbegan just three days after receiving a series of shots - she believedthem. In my research on Menkes I learned that about one-third of casesresult from new mutations in the gene and occur in people with nohistory of the disorder in their family. Also, there is a connectionbetween copper deficiency and demyelinating disease so why would itnot be a possibility that this damage occurred as a result of thevaccine and thus led to the mutation of the gene? The only therapy the medical profession uses to treat Menkes is dailysubcutaneous copper injections and this therapy is only successful asmall percentage of the time. Nearly 50% of Menkes patients derive nobenefit from this therapy and die at a very early age, between 3 and 5years old. This is truly a tragic diagnosis for this mother. Does this not sound similar to "mitochondrial disorder" being anunderlying condition of autism or, as is quite possible, vaccinescaused or triggered the disorder? What if this large number of casesof Menkes, occuring post birth as a gene mutation, is just anotherpossible disease that vaccinations can trigger or cause? Any thoughts on this topic, let me know.~ a>> Hullo a, I dont know where you found information about Menke'sdeveloping that was not an inherited disease. And there wasnt enoughinfo about the child, how he was tested, was there possibilily of anymisdiagnosis, or how severe his case is, or what all his known symtomsare at 6 months of age, including in his developmental skills andgrowth (or lack of them). In the most severe cases, they are sayingcopper replacement does little good. > In other cases it has been found that there is too much copper,but is not being utilized. Have you found any reference toMenke's-LIKE disease caused from other conditions? Has his thyroidbeen check thoroughly? > Here is just a bit of information> *Mercury disturbs the metabolism of copper and zinc which aretwo minerals critical to thyroid function.> *Mercury causes disruptions to the immune system functioning andpromotes the production of IgG and IgE autoantibodies which also areinvolved in autoimmune thyroid disease.> *Different forms of mercury, organic or inorganic, havedifferent effects on the thyroid. Milk and quite likely estrogencause an increase in the absorption of mercury.> *Selenium is the key mineral which protects the body frommercury toxicity. > *Mercury gets into our bodies in a variety of ways includingvaccinations. And as many of us have more recently discovered, evenfrom disposable diapers. > > Best of luck to the little feller. If there are any doctorsonboard, they may have some better ideas or information for you. GladDay ~ Karla in IL>Trina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2008 Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 Here is a link for MSG in vaccines. I guess where I draw the connection is people eat the MSG in various forms and it messes with their mitochondrae. Then they get pregnant, they eat better (or not), but don't know all of the food MSG is in, so they unknowingly affect the baby's mitochondrae. Then the baby is born with a mitochondrial disorder. And now it has problems on a cellular level that no one ever thought of before. Or maybe they did, depending on who "they" are/ http://www.truthinlabeling.org/Vaccines.htmlmrsphilly6 <mrsphilly6@...> wrote: I just got around to watching the video ,very informative. This kind of reinforces my theory that with all the different kinds of diseases, conditions and illness's and different effects on humans....it has to be something that we all (humans) are eating/drinking (this would be a common factor) and the various levels of impairment from these effects are not nessesarily the same for everyone of us,probably because we don't all consume the same amounts of these toxins (a seperation factor) just the short version of my thoughts on how we are all at risk of being affected (eating/drinking) and why some people seem to be less effected than others (less consumption of toxins...eat/drink less) Sorry if this doesn't make sense...my head is still reeling from the video! I thought I had come across info awhile back that list MSG as an ingredient in vaccines..anyone know of this? JackieTrina Radford <miiitymous > wrote: One more time, a possible cause to the mitochondrial disorder. http://tinyurl.com/3g6vc4 I really believe there is a connection! prstein10 <a.Rothsteinmedicinefreeliving> wrote: Thanks, Karla for the info. I wish I knew more but this boy'scondition but it is the sister of the mother who has been contactingme. The mother is completely in the hands of the medical professionand is somewhat resistant to natural therapies. When the doctors toldher that it was not the vaccines - merely a coincidence that seizuresbegan just three days after receiving a series of shots - she believedthem. In my research on Menkes I learned that about one-third of casesresult from new mutations in the gene and occur in people with nohistory of the disorder in their family. Also, there is a connectionbetween copper deficiency and demyelinating disease so why would itnot be a possibility that this damage occurred as a result of thevaccine and thus led to the mutation of the gene? The only therapy the medical profession uses to treat Menkes is dailysubcutaneous copper injections and this therapy is only successful asmall percentage of the time. Nearly 50% of Menkes patients derive nobenefit from this therapy and die at a very early age, between 3 and 5years old. This is truly a tragic diagnosis for this mother. Does this not sound similar to "mitochondrial disorder" being anunderlying condition of autism or, as is quite possible, vaccinescaused or triggered the disorder? What if this large number of casesof Menkes, occuring post birth as a gene mutation, is just anotherpossible disease that vaccinations can trigger or cause? Any thoughts on this topic, let me know.~ a>> Hullo a, I dont know where you found information about Menke'sdeveloping that was not an inherited disease. And there wasnt enoughinfo about the child, how he was tested, was there possibilily of anymisdiagnosis, or how severe his case is, or what all his known symtomsare at 6 months of age, including in his developmental skills andgrowth (or lack of them). In the most severe cases, they are sayingcopper replacement does little good. > In other cases it has been found that there is too much copper,but is not being utilized. Have you found any reference toMenke's-LIKE disease caused from other conditions? Has his thyroidbeen check thoroughly? > Here is just a bit of information> *Mercury disturbs the metabolism of copper and zinc which aretwo minerals critical to thyroid function.> *Mercury causes disruptions to the immune system functioning andpromotes the production of IgG and IgE autoantibodies which also areinvolved in autoimmune thyroid disease.> *Different forms of mercury, organic or inorganic, havedifferent effects on the thyroid. Milk and quite likely estrogencause an increase in the absorption of mercury.> *Selenium is the key mineral which protects the body frommercury toxicity. > *Mercury gets into our bodies in a variety of ways includingvaccinations. And as many of us have more recently discovered, evenfrom disposable diapers. > > Best of luck to the little feller. If there are any doctorsonboard, they may have some better ideas or information for you. GladDay ~ Karla in IL>Trina Trina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2008 Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 Here is a link for MSG in vaccines. I guess where I draw the connection is people eat the MSG in various forms and it messes with their mitochondrae. Then they get pregnant, they eat better (or not), but don't know all of the food MSG is in, so they unknowingly affect the baby's mitochondrae. Then the baby is born with a mitochondrial disorder. And now it has problems on a cellular level that no one ever thought of before. Or maybe they did, depending on who "they" are/ http://www.truthinlabeling.org/Vaccines.htmlmrsphilly6 <mrsphilly6@...> wrote: I just got around to watching the video ,very informative. This kind of reinforces my theory that with all the different kinds of diseases, conditions and illness's and different effects on humans....it has to be something that we all (humans) are eating/drinking (this would be a common factor) and the various levels of impairment from these effects are not nessesarily the same for everyone of us,probably because we don't all consume the same amounts of these toxins (a seperation factor) just the short version of my thoughts on how we are all at risk of being affected (eating/drinking) and why some people seem to be less effected than others (less consumption of toxins...eat/drink less) Sorry if this doesn't make sense...my head is still reeling from the video! I thought I had come across info awhile back that list MSG as an ingredient in vaccines..anyone know of this? JackieTrina Radford <miiitymous > wrote: One more time, a possible cause to the mitochondrial disorder. http://tinyurl.com/3g6vc4 I really believe there is a connection! prstein10 <a.Rothsteinmedicinefreeliving> wrote: Thanks, Karla for the info. I wish I knew more but this boy'scondition but it is the sister of the mother who has been contactingme. The mother is completely in the hands of the medical professionand is somewhat resistant to natural therapies. When the doctors toldher that it was not the vaccines - merely a coincidence that seizuresbegan just three days after receiving a series of shots - she believedthem. In my research on Menkes I learned that about one-third of casesresult from new mutations in the gene and occur in people with nohistory of the disorder in their family. Also, there is a connectionbetween copper deficiency and demyelinating disease so why would itnot be a possibility that this damage occurred as a result of thevaccine and thus led to the mutation of the gene? The only therapy the medical profession uses to treat Menkes is dailysubcutaneous copper injections and this therapy is only successful asmall percentage of the time. Nearly 50% of Menkes patients derive nobenefit from this therapy and die at a very early age, between 3 and 5years old. This is truly a tragic diagnosis for this mother. Does this not sound similar to "mitochondrial disorder" being anunderlying condition of autism or, as is quite possible, vaccinescaused or triggered the disorder? What if this large number of casesof Menkes, occuring post birth as a gene mutation, is just anotherpossible disease that vaccinations can trigger or cause? Any thoughts on this topic, let me know.~ a>> Hullo a, I dont know where you found information about Menke'sdeveloping that was not an inherited disease. And there wasnt enoughinfo about the child, how he was tested, was there possibilily of anymisdiagnosis, or how severe his case is, or what all his known symtomsare at 6 months of age, including in his developmental skills andgrowth (or lack of them). In the most severe cases, they are sayingcopper replacement does little good. > In other cases it has been found that there is too much copper,but is not being utilized. Have you found any reference toMenke's-LIKE disease caused from other conditions? Has his thyroidbeen check thoroughly? > Here is just a bit of information> *Mercury disturbs the metabolism of copper and zinc which aretwo minerals critical to thyroid function.> *Mercury causes disruptions to the immune system functioning andpromotes the production of IgG and IgE autoantibodies which also areinvolved in autoimmune thyroid disease.> *Different forms of mercury, organic or inorganic, havedifferent effects on the thyroid. Milk and quite likely estrogencause an increase in the absorption of mercury.> *Selenium is the key mineral which protects the body frommercury toxicity. > *Mercury gets into our bodies in a variety of ways includingvaccinations. And as many of us have more recently discovered, evenfrom disposable diapers. > > Best of luck to the little feller. If there are any doctorsonboard, they may have some better ideas or information for you. GladDay ~ Karla in IL>Trina Trina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 Trina R....thanks for the link. JackieTrina Radford <miiitymous@...> wrote: Here is a link for MSG in vaccines. I guess where I draw the connection is people eat the MSG in various forms and it messes with their mitochondrae. Then they get pregnant, they eat better (or not), but don't know all of the food MSG is in, so they unknowingly affect the baby's mitochondrae. Then the baby is born with a mitochondrial disorder. And now it has problems on a cellular level that no one ever thought of before. Or maybe they did, depending on who "they" are/ http://www.truthinlabeling.org/Vaccines.htmlmrsphilly6 <mrsphilly6 > wrote: I just got around to watching the video ,very informative. This kind of reinforces my theory that with all the different kinds of diseases, conditions and illness's and different effects on humans....it has to be something that we all (humans) are eating/drinking (this would be a common factor) and the various levels of impairment from these effects are not nessesarily the same for everyone of us,probably because we don't all consume the same amounts of these toxins (a seperation factor) just the short version of my thoughts on how we are all at risk of being affected (eating/drinking) and why some people seem to be less effected than others (less consumption of toxins...eat/drink less) Sorry if this doesn't make sense...my head is still reeling from the video! I thought I had come across info awhile back that list MSG as an ingredient in vaccines..anyone know of this? JackieTrina Radford <miiitymous > wrote: One more time, a possible cause to the mitochondrial disorder. http://tinyurl.com/3g6vc4 I really believe there is a connection! prstein10 <a.Rothsteinmedicinefreeliving> wrote: Thanks, Karla for the info. I wish I knew more but this boy'scondition but it is the sister of the mother who has been contactingme. The mother is completely in the hands of the medical professionand is somewhat resistant to natural therapies. When the doctors toldher that it was not the vaccines - merely a coincidence that seizuresbegan just three days after receiving a series of shots - she believedthem. In my research on Menkes I learned that about one-third of casesresult from new mutations in the gene and occur in people with nohistory of the disorder in their family. Also, there is a connectionbetween copper deficiency and demyelinating disease so why would itnot be a possibility that this damage occurred as a result of thevaccine and thus led to the mutation of the gene? The only therapy the medical profession uses to treat Menkes is dailysubcutaneous copper injections and this therapy is only successful asmall percentage of the time. Nearly 50% of Menkes patients derive nobenefit from this therapy and die at a very early age, between 3 and 5years old. This is truly a tragic diagnosis for this mother. Does this not sound similar to "mitochondrial disorder" being anunderlying condition of autism or, as is quite possible, vaccinescaused or triggered the disorder? What if this large number of casesof Menkes, occuring post birth as a gene mutation, is just anotherpossible disease that vaccinations can trigger or cause? Any thoughts on this topic, let me know.~ a>> Hullo a, I dont know where you found information about Menke'sdeveloping that was not an inherited disease. And there wasnt enoughinfo about the child, how he was tested, was there possibilily of anymisdiagnosis, or how severe his case is, or what all his known symtomsare at 6 months of age, including in his developmental skills andgrowth (or lack of them). In the most severe cases, they are sayingcopper replacement does little good. > In other cases it has been found that there is too much copper,but is not being utilized. Have you found any reference toMenke's-LIKE disease caused from other conditions? Has his thyroidbeen check thoroughly? > Here is just a bit of information> *Mercury disturbs the metabolism of copper and zinc which aretwo minerals critical to thyroid function.> *Mercury causes disruptions to the immune system functioning andpromotes the production of IgG and IgE autoantibodies which also areinvolved in autoimmune thyroid disease.> *Different forms of mercury, organic or inorganic, havedifferent effects on the thyroid. Milk and quite likely estrogencause an increase in the absorption of mercury.> *Selenium is the key mineral which protects the body frommercury toxicity. > *Mercury gets into our bodies in a variety of ways includingvaccinations. And as many of us have more recently discovered, evenfrom disposable diapers. > > Best of luck to the little feller. If there are any doctorsonboard, they may have some better ideas or information for you. GladDay ~ Karla in IL>Trina Trina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 Trina R....thanks for the link. JackieTrina Radford <miiitymous@...> wrote: Here is a link for MSG in vaccines. I guess where I draw the connection is people eat the MSG in various forms and it messes with their mitochondrae. Then they get pregnant, they eat better (or not), but don't know all of the food MSG is in, so they unknowingly affect the baby's mitochondrae. Then the baby is born with a mitochondrial disorder. And now it has problems on a cellular level that no one ever thought of before. Or maybe they did, depending on who "they" are/ http://www.truthinlabeling.org/Vaccines.htmlmrsphilly6 <mrsphilly6 > wrote: I just got around to watching the video ,very informative. This kind of reinforces my theory that with all the different kinds of diseases, conditions and illness's and different effects on humans....it has to be something that we all (humans) are eating/drinking (this would be a common factor) and the various levels of impairment from these effects are not nessesarily the same for everyone of us,probably because we don't all consume the same amounts of these toxins (a seperation factor) just the short version of my thoughts on how we are all at risk of being affected (eating/drinking) and why some people seem to be less effected than others (less consumption of toxins...eat/drink less) Sorry if this doesn't make sense...my head is still reeling from the video! I thought I had come across info awhile back that list MSG as an ingredient in vaccines..anyone know of this? JackieTrina Radford <miiitymous > wrote: One more time, a possible cause to the mitochondrial disorder. http://tinyurl.com/3g6vc4 I really believe there is a connection! prstein10 <a.Rothsteinmedicinefreeliving> wrote: Thanks, Karla for the info. I wish I knew more but this boy'scondition but it is the sister of the mother who has been contactingme. The mother is completely in the hands of the medical professionand is somewhat resistant to natural therapies. When the doctors toldher that it was not the vaccines - merely a coincidence that seizuresbegan just three days after receiving a series of shots - she believedthem. In my research on Menkes I learned that about one-third of casesresult from new mutations in the gene and occur in people with nohistory of the disorder in their family. Also, there is a connectionbetween copper deficiency and demyelinating disease so why would itnot be a possibility that this damage occurred as a result of thevaccine and thus led to the mutation of the gene? The only therapy the medical profession uses to treat Menkes is dailysubcutaneous copper injections and this therapy is only successful asmall percentage of the time. Nearly 50% of Menkes patients derive nobenefit from this therapy and die at a very early age, between 3 and 5years old. This is truly a tragic diagnosis for this mother. Does this not sound similar to "mitochondrial disorder" being anunderlying condition of autism or, as is quite possible, vaccinescaused or triggered the disorder? What if this large number of casesof Menkes, occuring post birth as a gene mutation, is just anotherpossible disease that vaccinations can trigger or cause? Any thoughts on this topic, let me know.~ a>> Hullo a, I dont know where you found information about Menke'sdeveloping that was not an inherited disease. And there wasnt enoughinfo about the child, how he was tested, was there possibilily of anymisdiagnosis, or how severe his case is, or what all his known symtomsare at 6 months of age, including in his developmental skills andgrowth (or lack of them). In the most severe cases, they are sayingcopper replacement does little good. > In other cases it has been found that there is too much copper,but is not being utilized. Have you found any reference toMenke's-LIKE disease caused from other conditions? Has his thyroidbeen check thoroughly? > Here is just a bit of information> *Mercury disturbs the metabolism of copper and zinc which aretwo minerals critical to thyroid function.> *Mercury causes disruptions to the immune system functioning andpromotes the production of IgG and IgE autoantibodies which also areinvolved in autoimmune thyroid disease.> *Different forms of mercury, organic or inorganic, havedifferent effects on the thyroid. Milk and quite likely estrogencause an increase in the absorption of mercury.> *Selenium is the key mineral which protects the body frommercury toxicity. > *Mercury gets into our bodies in a variety of ways includingvaccinations. And as many of us have more recently discovered, evenfrom disposable diapers. > > Best of luck to the little feller. If there are any doctorsonboard, they may have some better ideas or information for you. GladDay ~ Karla in IL>Trina Trina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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