Re: Preparing, avian flu, vaccines, government....herbs

[Guest guest]

Thank you! I agree that we need to keep this on the information level

and help people make good choices to protect themselves while they

can. What you choose to do when " they " knock down your door is on your

own conscience and nothing said in this forum will change your mind

about that. Let's keep it friendly and not be kicking people out for

their opinion and not use this to condemn people because they have

differences in religious beliefs.

How is it any different for one person to say God will send them to

hell and another to say there is no hell? We have to make our own

decision on the matter. Either one is forcing your opinion on

another. Jesus never argued anyone into believing he was the son of

God, why should we?

>

> First of all, I believe in freedom of speech. And each of us has a

> responsibility to respect that without acting disdainfully towards

each

> other if we disagree with them.

>

> >

[Guest guest]

Thank you! I agree that we need to keep this on the information level

and help people make good choices to protect themselves while they

can. What you choose to do when " they " knock down your door is on your

own conscience and nothing said in this forum will change your mind

about that. Let's keep it friendly and not be kicking people out for

their opinion and not use this to condemn people because they have

differences in religious beliefs.

How is it any different for one person to say God will send them to

hell and another to say there is no hell? We have to make our own

decision on the matter. Either one is forcing your opinion on

another. Jesus never argued anyone into believing he was the son of

God, why should we?

>

> First of all, I believe in freedom of speech. And each of us has a

> responsibility to respect that without acting disdainfully towards

each

> other if we disagree with them.

>

> >

[Guest guest]

AMEN!!!!!!

> >

> > First of all, I believe in freedom of speech. And each of us has a

> > responsibility to respect that without acting disdainfully

towards

> each

> > other if we disagree with them.

> >

> > >

>

[Guest guest]

AMEN!!!!!!

> >

> > First of all, I believe in freedom of speech. And each of us has a

> > responsibility to respect that without acting disdainfully

towards

> each

> > other if we disagree with them.

> >

> > >

>

[Guest guest]

AMEN!!!!!!

> >

> > First of all, I believe in freedom of speech. And each of us has a

> > responsibility to respect that without acting disdainfully

towards

> each

> > other if we disagree with them.

> >

> > >

>

[Guest guest]

AMEN!!!!!!

> >

> > First of all, I believe in freedom of speech. And each of us has a

> > responsibility to respect that without acting disdainfully

towards

> each

> > other if we disagree with them.

> >

> > >

>

[Guest guest]

No one should be " kicked out of the group " because they have a different

view which upsets your personal mind set. That is what the delete button if

for !

Listen friends, I have joined and left several groups due to this kind of

in-fighting, stemming from intolerance of different views

We are here to inform and share vital info to help each other survive.

Let's do that.

[Guest guest]

No one should be " kicked out of the group " because they have a different

view which upsets your personal mind set. That is what the delete button if

for !

Listen friends, I have joined and left several groups due to this kind of

in-fighting, stemming from intolerance of different views

We are here to inform and share vital info to help each other survive.

Let's do that.

[Guest guest]

No one should be " kicked out of the group " because they have a different

view which upsets your personal mind set. That is what the delete button if

for !

Listen friends, I have joined and left several groups due to this kind of

in-fighting, stemming from intolerance of different views

We are here to inform and share vital info to help each other survive.

Let's do that.

[Guest guest]

No one should be " kicked out of the group " because they have a different

view which upsets your personal mind set. That is what the delete button if

for !

Listen friends, I have joined and left several groups due to this kind of

in-fighting, stemming from intolerance of different views

We are here to inform and share vital info to help each other survive.

Let's do that.

[Guest guest]

It's not his opinions. It's the fact that he has nothing to contribute with regards to information or ideas, he only yells at us to do what is written in some book or we will suffer. These sound like threats to me.

[Guest guest]

It's not his opinions. It's the fact that he has nothing to contribute with regards to information or ideas, he only yells at us to do what is written in some book or we will suffer. These sound like threats to me.

[Guest guest]

I am sorry to cause such a stir and fuss here by my question. Was not

my intent. Sorry to ruffle feathers and the start of heated conflict.

I respect other religious beliefs...

However: regardless if others view it as killing or suicide, I will

not stand by and allow my children to experience and live thru

horendous (sp) torture! All for the sake of " seeing what is to come " .

And if God allows such inconceivable actions of torture on children,

on human life all for the sake of not commiting an act of sin

by " commiting suicide " then I can not follow such a god. One who

would allow my children, any children to be tortured.

Some here obviously have never witnessed a human being be tortured!

Children! It will haunt you for the rest of your life. Haunt you in

your dreams that you never know peace.

So please forgive me for protecting my family, my children and

myself. This world is so numb to violence. Patriarchy will not take

us.

FOR THOSE HERE WHO DO NOT BELIEVE IN TORTURE AND WOULD LIKE TO

CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION OF CARING FOR ONES FAMILY IN A TIME OF

VIOLENCE AGAINST THE HUMAN RACE PLEASE FEEL FREE TO E-MAIL ME OFF

LIST. THIS GROUP IS VITAL TO OUR SURVIVAL AND EDUCATING US ON SOME

MUCH. i DO NOT WHAT TO WASTE POSTINGS ON RELIGION AND RELIGIOUS

ATTACKS.

THANK YOU THOSE OF YOU WHO STARTED THIS GROUP. FOR YOUR TIME, HARD

WORK AND DEDICATION TO THE CAUSE.........

I SALUTE YOU....

GOOODBYE

REBECCA

" I think it's pretty relevent to bring God into the picture when

you're discussing the topic of killing children. "

>

[Guest guest]

I am sorry to cause such a stir and fuss here by my question. Was not

my intent. Sorry to ruffle feathers and the start of heated conflict.

I respect other religious beliefs...

However: regardless if others view it as killing or suicide, I will

not stand by and allow my children to experience and live thru

horendous (sp) torture! All for the sake of " seeing what is to come " .

And if God allows such inconceivable actions of torture on children,

on human life all for the sake of not commiting an act of sin

by " commiting suicide " then I can not follow such a god. One who

would allow my children, any children to be tortured.

Some here obviously have never witnessed a human being be tortured!

Children! It will haunt you for the rest of your life. Haunt you in

your dreams that you never know peace.

So please forgive me for protecting my family, my children and

myself. This world is so numb to violence. Patriarchy will not take

us.

FOR THOSE HERE WHO DO NOT BELIEVE IN TORTURE AND WOULD LIKE TO

CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION OF CARING FOR ONES FAMILY IN A TIME OF

VIOLENCE AGAINST THE HUMAN RACE PLEASE FEEL FREE TO E-MAIL ME OFF

LIST. THIS GROUP IS VITAL TO OUR SURVIVAL AND EDUCATING US ON SOME

MUCH. i DO NOT WHAT TO WASTE POSTINGS ON RELIGION AND RELIGIOUS

ATTACKS.

THANK YOU THOSE OF YOU WHO STARTED THIS GROUP. FOR YOUR TIME, HARD

WORK AND DEDICATION TO THE CAUSE.........

I SALUTE YOU....

GOOODBYE

REBECCA

" I think it's pretty relevent to bring God into the picture when

you're discussing the topic of killing children. "

>

[Guest guest]

Moderator here.

Folks, this is, in my mind, a rather absurd thread. This forum is not

about religious fervor (although if you have it and it motiates you,

that is fine). It is about not being forced to take vaccines. That

means that information and thoughts on vaccines, vaccination, health,

immune systems, facts, political and medical information and

disinformation, propaganda, tips on vaccine injury, avoiding it,

curing it, etc., etc., are most welcome.

, please try to keep your posts respectful of other people's

beliefs. Theological harangues do not move the issue further, no

matter how much your beliefs may guide your own personal choices.

Yours in health and freedom,

Dr. Rima

Rude, furious, disrespectful, stifling or hateful/hurtful accusations

are NOT, repeat, NOT welcome.

> From: Monika Reign B. <nature.mumgmail (DOT) com>

> Subject: Re: [no-forced-vaccinat ion] Preparing, avian flu,

> vaccines, government.. ..herbs

> no-forced-vaccinati ongroups (DOT) com

> Date: Friday, July 25, 2008, 10:38 AM

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> Please, ... just stop it.

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> I would rather let my child die painlessly by suicide than let them

suffer the way that the government will make them suffer in those

camps.  Sin?  Please.  Stop trying to force your religion on others. 

>

>

> It seems like you only joined this group to try to convert people...

are you trying to be some sort of missionary?  Because you have given

no other input than to pray, believe on God, ask God to do this, don't

do this or you are sinning and will die a horrible, miserable death

and burn for all eternity.

>

>

> May we ask for a moderator to butt in?

>

[Guest guest]

Moderator here.

Folks, this is, in my mind, a rather absurd thread. This forum is not

about religious fervor (although if you have it and it motiates you,

that is fine). It is about not being forced to take vaccines. That

means that information and thoughts on vaccines, vaccination, health,

immune systems, facts, political and medical information and

disinformation, propaganda, tips on vaccine injury, avoiding it,

curing it, etc., etc., are most welcome.

, please try to keep your posts respectful of other people's

beliefs. Theological harangues do not move the issue further, no

matter how much your beliefs may guide your own personal choices.

Yours in health and freedom,

Dr. Rima

Rude, furious, disrespectful, stifling or hateful/hurtful accusations

are NOT, repeat, NOT welcome.

> From: Monika Reign B. <nature.mumgmail (DOT) com>

> Subject: Re: [no-forced-vaccinat ion] Preparing, avian flu,

> vaccines, government.. ..herbs

> no-forced-vaccinati ongroups (DOT) com

> Date: Friday, July 25, 2008, 10:38 AM

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> Please, ... just stop it.

>

> I would rather let my child die painlessly by suicide than let them

suffer the way that the government will make them suffer in those

camps.  Sin?  Please.  Stop trying to force your religion on others. 

>

>

> It seems like you only joined this group to try to convert people...

are you trying to be some sort of missionary?  Because you have given

no other input than to pray, believe on God, ask God to do this, don't

do this or you are sinning and will die a horrible, miserable death

and burn for all eternity.

>

>

> May we ask for a moderator to butt in?

>

[Guest guest]

Another vital point is that responding to the insane request by one person

on this list to provide her with information as to what herbs would

efficiently kill her children would constitute accessory to MURDER!

I am appalled at the direction this thread has been going over the last

couple of days, although it shows once again how easily even intelligent

people can fall for a hype drummed up that has the remotest chance of

materializing. Nobody needs a " flu kit " to overcome a piffling flu, for

God's sake! This is just another money- making racket. And neither do we

need voices thundering from anyone's pulpit to believe in what this

particular person perceives as GOD.

Ingrid

Moderator here.

Folks, this is, in my mind, a rather absurd thread. This forum is not

about religious fervor (although if you have it and it motiates you,

that is fine). It is about not being forced to take vaccines. That

means that information and thoughts on vaccines, vaccination, health,

immune systems, facts, political and medical information and

disinformation, propaganda, tips on vaccine injury, avoiding it,

curing it, etc., etc., are most welcome.

, please try to keep your posts respectful of other people's

beliefs. Theological harangues do not move the issue further, no

matter how much your beliefs may guide your own personal choices.

Yours in health and freedom,

Dr. Rima

[Guest guest]

Another vital point is that responding to the insane request by one person

on this list to provide her with information as to what herbs would

efficiently kill her children would constitute accessory to MURDER!

I am appalled at the direction this thread has been going over the last

couple of days, although it shows once again how easily even intelligent

people can fall for a hype drummed up that has the remotest chance of

materializing. Nobody needs a " flu kit " to overcome a piffling flu, for

God's sake! This is just another money- making racket. And neither do we

need voices thundering from anyone's pulpit to believe in what this

particular person perceives as GOD.

Ingrid

Moderator here.

Folks, this is, in my mind, a rather absurd thread. This forum is not

about religious fervor (although if you have it and it motiates you,

that is fine). It is about not being forced to take vaccines. That

means that information and thoughts on vaccines, vaccination, health,

immune systems, facts, political and medical information and

disinformation, propaganda, tips on vaccine injury, avoiding it,

curing it, etc., etc., are most welcome.

, please try to keep your posts respectful of other people's

beliefs. Theological harangues do not move the issue further, no

matter how much your beliefs may guide your own personal choices.

Yours in health and freedom,

Dr. Rima

[Guest guest]

Dr Rima, Please excuse my the off topic line of this. Yes, the subject

here is not being forced to having vaccines administered to you and

your loved ones. But, then there comes the grand question of building

ones immune system to handle whatever THEY throw at us. At

some point, that is going to be the need for those who have chosen not

to be vaccinated for any or all of the crap that comes along. So, in

this vein, we must explore, at least in part, the alternatives.

I submit that the answer, at least in part, is natural based vitamins

and minerals, herbs, a major life style change for most of us and a

need educate, not only ourselves, but anyone willing to listen, the

concepts of the following: Homeopathics, Naturopathics, Asia Medical

Arts, and any other form of nontraditional medicine that has been

proven by time and good science to work.

To paraphase Dr. Lorraine Day, MD "traditional Cancer therapies are

only to make money", "You do not have a radiation deficiency or a

chemo-therapy deficiency or a surgery deficiency"

The pharmaceutical industry is NWO plus Greed. And they are out

to squeeze us til the zit pops.

Ingrid Blank wrote:

Another vital point is that responding to the insane request by one

person

on this list to provide her with information as to what herbs would

efficiently kill her children would constitute accessory to MURDER!

I am appalled at the direction this thread has been going over the last

couple of days, although it shows once again how easily even intelligent

people can fall for a hype drummed up that has the remotest chance of

materializing. Nobody needs a "flu kit" to overcome a piffling flu, for

God's sake! This is just another money- making racket. And neither do we

need voices thundering from anyone's pulpit to believe in what this

particular person perceives as GOD.

Ingrid

Moderator here.

Folks, this is, in my mind, a rather absurd thread. This forum is not

about religious fervor (although if you have it and it motiates you,

that is fine). It is about not being forced to take vaccines. That

means that information and thoughts on vaccines, vaccination, health,

immune systems, facts, political and medical information and

disinformation, propaganda, tips on vaccine injury, avoiding it,

curing it, etc., etc., are most welcome.

, please try to keep your posts respectful of other people's

beliefs. Theological harangues do not move the issue further, no

matter how much your beliefs may guide your own personal choices.

Yours in health and freedom,

Dr. Rima

[Guest guest]

Dr Rima, Please excuse my the off topic line of this. Yes, the subject

here is not being forced to having vaccines administered to you and

your loved ones. But, then there comes the grand question of building

ones immune system to handle whatever THEY throw at us. At

some point, that is going to be the need for those who have chosen not

to be vaccinated for any or all of the crap that comes along. So, in

this vein, we must explore, at least in part, the alternatives.

I submit that the answer, at least in part, is natural based vitamins

and minerals, herbs, a major life style change for most of us and a

need educate, not only ourselves, but anyone willing to listen, the

concepts of the following: Homeopathics, Naturopathics, Asia Medical

Arts, and any other form of nontraditional medicine that has been

proven by time and good science to work.

To paraphase Dr. Lorraine Day, MD "traditional Cancer therapies are

only to make money", "You do not have a radiation deficiency or a

chemo-therapy deficiency or a surgery deficiency"

The pharmaceutical industry is NWO plus Greed. And they are out

to squeeze us til the zit pops.

Ingrid Blank wrote:

Another vital point is that responding to the insane request by one

person

on this list to provide her with information as to what herbs would

efficiently kill her children would constitute accessory to MURDER!

I am appalled at the direction this thread has been going over the last

couple of days, although it shows once again how easily even intelligent

people can fall for a hype drummed up that has the remotest chance of

materializing. Nobody needs a "flu kit" to overcome a piffling flu, for

God's sake! This is just another money- making racket. And neither do we

need voices thundering from anyone's pulpit to believe in what this

particular person perceives as GOD.

Ingrid

Moderator here.

Folks, this is, in my mind, a rather absurd thread. This forum is not

about religious fervor (although if you have it and it motiates you,

that is fine). It is about not being forced to take vaccines. That

means that information and thoughts on vaccines, vaccination, health,

immune systems, facts, political and medical information and

disinformation, propaganda, tips on vaccine injury, avoiding it,

curing it, etc., etc., are most welcome.

, please try to keep your posts respectful of other people's

beliefs. Theological harangues do not move the issue further, no

matter how much your beliefs may guide your own personal choices.

Yours in health and freedom,

Dr. Rima

[Guest guest]

Dr Rima, Please excuse my the off topic line of this. Yes, the subject

here is not being forced to having vaccines administered to you and

your loved ones. But, then there comes the grand question of building

ones immune system to handle whatever THEY throw at us. At

some point, that is going to be the need for those who have chosen not

to be vaccinated for any or all of the crap that comes along. So, in

this vein, we must explore, at least in part, the alternatives.

I submit that the answer, at least in part, is natural based vitamins

and minerals, herbs, a major life style change for most of us and a

need educate, not only ourselves, but anyone willing to listen, the

concepts of the following: Homeopathics, Naturopathics, Asia Medical

Arts, and any other form of nontraditional medicine that has been

proven by time and good science to work.

To paraphase Dr. Lorraine Day, MD "traditional Cancer therapies are

only to make money", "You do not have a radiation deficiency or a

chemo-therapy deficiency or a surgery deficiency"

The pharmaceutical industry is NWO plus Greed. And they are out

to squeeze us til the zit pops.

Ingrid Blank wrote:

Another vital point is that responding to the insane request by one

person

on this list to provide her with information as to what herbs would

efficiently kill her children would constitute accessory to MURDER!

I am appalled at the direction this thread has been going over the last

couple of days, although it shows once again how easily even intelligent

people can fall for a hype drummed up that has the remotest chance of

materializing. Nobody needs a "flu kit" to overcome a piffling flu, for

God's sake! This is just another money- making racket. And neither do we

need voices thundering from anyone's pulpit to believe in what this

particular person perceives as GOD.

Ingrid

Moderator here.

Folks, this is, in my mind, a rather absurd thread. This forum is not

about religious fervor (although if you have it and it motiates you,

that is fine). It is about not being forced to take vaccines. That

means that information and thoughts on vaccines, vaccination, health,

immune systems, facts, political and medical information and

disinformation, propaganda, tips on vaccine injury, avoiding it,

curing it, etc., etc., are most welcome.

, please try to keep your posts respectful of other people's

beliefs. Theological harangues do not move the issue further, no

matter how much your beliefs may guide your own personal choices.

Yours in health and freedom,

Dr. Rima

[Guest guest]

Dr Rima, Please excuse my the off topic line of this. Yes, the subject

here is not being forced to having vaccines administered to you and

your loved ones. But, then there comes the grand question of building

ones immune system to handle whatever THEY throw at us. At

some point, that is going to be the need for those who have chosen not

to be vaccinated for any or all of the crap that comes along. So, in

this vein, we must explore, at least in part, the alternatives.

I submit that the answer, at least in part, is natural based vitamins

and minerals, herbs, a major life style change for most of us and a

need educate, not only ourselves, but anyone willing to listen, the

concepts of the following: Homeopathics, Naturopathics, Asia Medical

Arts, and any other form of nontraditional medicine that has been

proven by time and good science to work.

To paraphase Dr. Lorraine Day, MD "traditional Cancer therapies are

only to make money", "You do not have a radiation deficiency or a

chemo-therapy deficiency or a surgery deficiency"

The pharmaceutical industry is NWO plus Greed. And they are out

to squeeze us til the zit pops.

Ingrid Blank wrote:

Another vital point is that responding to the insane request by one

person

on this list to provide her with information as to what herbs would

efficiently kill her children would constitute accessory to MURDER!

I am appalled at the direction this thread has been going over the last

couple of days, although it shows once again how easily even intelligent

people can fall for a hype drummed up that has the remotest chance of

materializing. Nobody needs a "flu kit" to overcome a piffling flu, for

God's sake! This is just another money- making racket. And neither do we

need voices thundering from anyone's pulpit to believe in what this

particular person perceives as GOD.

Ingrid

Moderator here.

Folks, this is, in my mind, a rather absurd thread. This forum is not

about religious fervor (although if you have it and it motiates you,

that is fine). It is about not being forced to take vaccines. That

means that information and thoughts on vaccines, vaccination, health,

immune systems, facts, political and medical information and

disinformation, propaganda, tips on vaccine injury, avoiding it,

curing it, etc., etc., are most welcome.

, please try to keep your posts respectful of other people's

beliefs. Theological harangues do not move the issue further, no

matter how much your beliefs may guide your own personal choices.

Yours in health and freedom,

Dr. Rima

[Guest guest]

To Ingrid:You said it was a hype that had the remotest chance of materializing.Was it not Dr. Rima who sent out these warnings in multiple e-mails from her e-alerts?Is she not hyping this up then?

I am not fully aware of the symptoms of avian flu, I don't believe it is the same as our regular " piffling " flu, from what I do know.

[Guest guest]

To Ingrid:You said it was a hype that had the remotest chance of materializing.Was it not Dr. Rima who sent out these warnings in multiple e-mails from her e-alerts?Is she not hyping this up then?

I am not fully aware of the symptoms of avian flu, I don't believe it is the same as our regular " piffling " flu, from what I do know.

[Guest guest]

To Ingrid:You said it was a hype that had the remotest chance of materializing.Was it not Dr. Rima who sent out these warnings in multiple e-mails from her e-alerts?Is she not hyping this up then?

I am not fully aware of the symptoms of avian flu, I don't believe it is the same as our regular " piffling " flu, from what I do know.