Guest guest Posted September 12, 2000 Report Share Posted September 12, 2000 , Go to the main web page www.autism treatmentegroups. Click on files. Click on counting rules. This tells you how to interpret it. Carol Goodson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2000 Report Share Posted September 12, 2000 Hi, I am new to this list. It was suggested by someone on another list that this might be a good list to sign on to, as we are looking at possible heavy metal issues with our son. He is 4 year old and diagnosed with PDD. I'm looking at my son's Hair Mineral Analysis report from Doctor's Data, and while some of the figures have raised my eyebrows, I'm really not sure what they might mean. I would appreciate any comments. I will only list those whose values are outside the ref range; Potentially Toxic Elements toxic element result(ug/g) range Aluminum 14 < 8 Arsenic .39 <.08 Bismuth 0.19 < 0.13 Lead 1.2 <1 Mercury 0.51 < 0.40 Titanium 3.7 <1 Essential & other elements element result(ug/g) range Sodium 200 12-90 high Potassium 150 12-40 high Zinc 83 100-190 low Chromium 0.23 0.26-0.5 low Selenium 0.85 0.95-1.7 low Strontium 0.13 0.16-1 low Sulfur 54400 45500-53000 high Barium 0.15 0.16-0.8 low Germanium 0.015 0.045-0.065 low Rubidium 0.19 0.016-0.18 high Zirconium 1.3 0.04-1 high Most of these do not seem grossly out of range, however, the Doctor's Data report remarked on the high sodium/potassium levels as being associated with toxic element burden and requires further investigation. They also singled out the relationship between high arsenic levels and low selenium (arsenic being an antagonist to selenium). They believe this toxic burden should be confirmed by comparison of As levels pre and post provocation (DMPS, DMSA, D-penicillamine) to permit differentiation between recent uptake and body stores. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2000 Report Share Posted September 13, 2000 This is really very interesting. My son's test, by those standards, are considered abnormal. May I ask who the statistician is? Re: [ ] Fw: Lab Results > > , > > Go to the main web page www.autism treatmentegroups. Click on files. > Click on counting rules. This tells you how to interpret it. > > Carol Goodson > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2000 Report Share Posted September 13, 2000 , Below is a writeup I made concerning what can and can't be determined from hair and urine analysis. I give a copy of this to my doctors along with my son's test results...so they will draw correct conclusions. Hope it is helpful for you, Chris I have been learning quite a bit about mercury toxicity, and assessing for it. Apparently a lot of doctors blow it with regards to assessment. They apply ‘lead toxicity rules’ to mercury, and they apply acute, recent exposure thinking to this long ago exposure situation. 1. Mercury does not show up in hair unless the exposure is very recent. Some of the other toxic elements are well represented in hair. (I’m not completely sure which ones.) The significant ‘scatter’ in the essential elements is an indicator of toxicity. 2. Mercury presence cannot be assessed by blood test unless the exposure is very recent. (Lead can be.) The half-life for mercury in the blood is 1-2 months. 3. The chelator we are utilizing (DMSA) binds well (apparently) with just about all toxic metals except antimony. It will bind with what ever is easiest. High levels of toxic substances become evident in a roughly sequential order. Therefor, A LACK OF TOXIC MERCURY LEVEL IN THE URINE DOES NOT MEAN ONE DOES NOT HAVE TOXIC LEVELS. 4. The individual ‘sensitivity’ (a genetic issue I believe…) to mercury varies hugely! Even if one could be confident of having a representative test of the bodies’ load, one still cannot be confident if that is or is not significant with regards to toxicity (especially true when assessing toxicity in an infant/young child). 5. Apparently the only test that is pretty representative of mercury load is a urinary porphyrin test-specifically precoproporphyrin. At this point no U.S. commercial lab runs this test. I believe the only thing that can be said with confidence, about Dougie’s DD toxic hair and urine test, is that he has a significant amount of some toxic stuff, (so far at least antimony, nickel and mercury, maybe aluminum, arsenic and tin have significant levels also), with more very possibly to be disclosed with future challenge tests. On Tue, 12 Sep 2000 17:56:09 -0300 " The s " <ldrich@...> writes: > > Hi, > I am new to this list. It was suggested by someone on another list > that this might be a good list to sign on to, as we are looking at > possible heavy metal issues with our son. He is 4 year old and > diagnosed with PDD. > > I'm looking at my son's Hair Mineral Analysis report from Doctor's > Data, and while some of the figures have raised my eyebrows, I'm > really not sure what they might mean. > > I would appreciate any comments. > > > > I will only list those whose values are outside the ref range; > > Potentially Toxic Elements > toxic element result(ug/g) range > > Aluminum 14 < 8 > > Arsenic .39 <.08 > > Bismuth 0.19 < 0.13 > > Lead 1.2 <1 > Mercury 0.51 < 0.40 > Titanium 3.7 <1 > > Essential & other elements > element result(ug/g) range > > Sodium 200 12-90 > high > Potassium 150 12-40 > high > Zinc 83 100-190 > low > Chromium 0.23 0.26-0.5 > low > Selenium 0.85 0.95-1.7 > low > Strontium 0.13 0.16-1 > low > Sulfur 54400 45500-53000 > high > Barium 0.15 0.16-0.8 > low > Germanium 0.015 0.045-0.065 low > Rubidium 0.19 0.016-0.18 > high > Zirconium 1.3 0.04-1 > high > > Most of these do not seem grossly out of range, however, the > Doctor's Data report remarked on the high sodium/potassium levels > as being associated with toxic element burden and requires further > investigation. > > They also singled out the relationship between high arsenic levels > and low selenium (arsenic being an antagonist to selenium). They > believe this toxic burden should be confirmed by comparison of As > levels pre and post provocation (DMPS, DMSA, D-penicillamine) to > permit differentiation between recent uptake and body stores. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2000 Report Share Posted September 13, 2000 Check it against Andy's counting rules in the archives (and files?). That will tell you if this is indicative of heavy metal toxicity. Barb P.S. Usually if the analysis is full of highs and lows with very little in the middle, that is the warning sign. [ ] Fw: Lab Results Hi, I am new to this list. It was suggested by someone on another list that this might be a good list to sign on to, as we are looking at possible heavy metal issues with our son. He is 4 year old and diagnosed with PDD. I'm looking at my son's Hair Mineral Analysis report from Doctor's Data, and while some of the figures have raised my eyebrows, I'm really not sure what they might mean. I would appreciate any comments. I will only list those whose values are outside the ref range; Potentially Toxic Elements toxic element result(ug/g) range Aluminum 14 < 8 Arsenic .39 <.08 Bismuth 0.19 < 0.13 Lead 1.2 <1 Mercury 0.51 < 0.40 Titanium 3.7 <1 Essential & other elements element result(ug/g) range Sodium 200 12-90 high Potassium 150 12-40 high Zinc 83 100-190 low Chromium 0.23 0.26-0.5 low Selenium 0.85 0.95-1.7 low Strontium 0.13 0.16-1 low Sulfur 54400 45500-53000 high Barium 0.15 0.16-0.8 low Germanium 0.015 0.045-0.065 low Rubidium 0.19 0.016-0.18 high Zirconium 1.3 0.04-1 high Most of these do not seem grossly out of range, however, the Doctor's Data report remarked on the high sodium/potassium levels as being associated with toxic element burden and requires further investigation. They also singled out the relationship between high arsenic levels and low selenium (arsenic being an antagonist to selenium). They believe this toxic burden should be confirmed by comparison of As levels pre and post provocation (DMPS, DMSA, D-penicillamine) to permit differentiation between recent uptake and body stores. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Hello all, just a quick question to ease my mind. going thru several blood test here and diabetes ruled out just got blood work back on test for rheum. wonder if anyone could make sense of it for me. i know not medical advice just some sense for me. my triglyceries :1781 c-rp(highly sensitive) 7.90 Esr 10 Ana screen <1:40 RA 7.32 H thank you anyone that can explain this may Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Well, I’ll try to give you a little unprofessional information. “normal” ranges vary somewhat from lab to lab and your report should say what is “normal”. I think triglycerides depend pretty strongly on how long you were fasting before the blood was drawn. I think it should be at least 12 hours so I always get my blood drawn before breakfast. I think this is mostly for diabetes and you say that is ruled out. CRP and ESR are two different ways of measuring inflammation, and usually these are elevated in uncontrolled RA. Of course, a lot of other things also cause inflammation. I think the ANA screen is for Lupus but I have no idea what the numbers mean. RA (probably Rheumatoid Factor) is often found with RA but is not conclusive to prove RA or disprove RA. It is merely a diagnostic aid. When I started out about a fourth of my blood tests were out of limits but now I’m down to only 3 or four being out of limits and that varies from test to test as to which ones are out and how far. Well, my SED rate (ESR) has always been out but for 7 years it has been decreasing to be closer to the “normal” range. God bless. From: Rheumatoid Arthritis [mailto:Rheumatoid Arthritis ] On Behalf Of mayat62 Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 1:00 PM Rheumatoid Arthritis Subject: lab results Hello all, just a quick question to ease my mind. going thru several blood test here and diabetes ruled out just got blood work back on test for rheum. wonder if anyone could make sense of it for me. i know not medical advice just some sense for me. my triglyceries :1781 c-rp(highly sensitive) 7.90 Esr 10 Ana screen <1:40 RA 7.32 H thank you anyone that can explain this may No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.11.58/2061 - Release Date: 04/16/09 08:12:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 WooHoo - How about you!  Very Happy for you and your loved ones!!!! ( I remember getting that call and playing the Beach Boys _ Do You Wanna Dance to celebrate). What a great feeling.  Keep up the Good Work! From: Eva <evaob365@...> Subject: [ ] Lab results Date: Thursday, January 6, 2011, 4:39 PM  Hey guys , had a doc appt today and my onc came dancing into the room to tell me that I had a major molecular response and that my PCR test came back as -3.15 log reduction!!! I think he was happier than me . I didn't quite know what it meant. It is a GOOD thing as Martha would say !!! Yeaaa Eva Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 Congratulations Eva:Â Hope we keep hearing of more good news happening in this new year with so many of our other CML people. A. From: Eva <evaob365@...> Subject: [ ] Lab results Date: Thursday, January 6, 2011, 4:39 PM Â Hey guys , had a doc appt today and my onc came dancing into the room to tell me that I had a major molecular response and that my PCR test came back as -3.15 log reduction!!! I think he was happier than me . I didn't quite know what it meant. It is a GOOD thing as Martha would say !!! Yeaaa Eva Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 Congratulations Eva good start for a new year T Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry [ ] Lab results Hey guys , had a doc appt today and my onc came dancing into the room to tell me that I had a major molecular response and that my PCR test came back as -3.15 log reduction!!! I think he was happier than me . I didn't quite know what it meant. It is a GOOD thing as Martha would say !!! Yeaaa Eva Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 Whooo, It sure is a GREAT thing. Â From: Eva <evaob365@...> Subject: [ ] Lab results Date: Thursday, January 6, 2011, 1:39 PM Â Hey guys , had a doc appt today and my onc came dancing into the room to tell me that I had a major molecular response and that my PCR test came back as -3.15 log reduction!!! I think he was happier than me . I didn't quite know what it meant. It is a GOOD thing as Martha would say !!! Yeaaa Eva Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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