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I'd like to know the answer to that one myself. I

remember when I was only 17 a doctor then told me I

had muscular rheumatism, then in my late 20's to

thirties the doctor I had then told me my body was

attacking itself, and started treating me for

arthritis, I had a lot of pain during these times, but

no one ever used the word RA, then a couple of years

ago,I began hurting terribly again, and unfortuantely

the doctor I had then felt all women suffered from

anxiety and nothing else could possibly be their

problem, therefore he never checked anything, let me

say here he is my X doctor. ..I switched doctors a few

months ago, and they immediately told me they thought

I had RA. The swelling, and nodules, ect.. but felt

there were other things goin on also. After blood work

and x ray of hands and low back, she said blood work

was good, and only wrist and the left thumb showed

narrowing, but that was all. Im stumped, dont know if

I do or not have it at this point. I go back in Sept.

Let me know if you get answers on the remission thing,

thanks. in MO

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I'd like to know the answer to that one myself. I

remember when I was only 17 a doctor then told me I

had muscular rheumatism, then in my late 20's to

thirties the doctor I had then told me my body was

attacking itself, and started treating me for

arthritis, I had a lot of pain during these times, but

no one ever used the word RA, then a couple of years

ago,I began hurting terribly again, and unfortuantely

the doctor I had then felt all women suffered from

anxiety and nothing else could possibly be their

problem, therefore he never checked anything, let me

say here he is my X doctor. ..I switched doctors a few

months ago, and they immediately told me they thought

I had RA. The swelling, and nodules, ect.. but felt

there were other things goin on also. After blood work

and x ray of hands and low back, she said blood work

was good, and only wrist and the left thumb showed

narrowing, but that was all. Im stumped, dont know if

I do or not have it at this point. I go back in Sept.

Let me know if you get answers on the remission thing,

thanks. in MO

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Kathe, I'm assuming your new rheumatologist has your entire medical record,

right?

The blood tests aren't as important as your clinical presentation and

x-rays, especially if the results were borderline positive. Or was your RF

very high in the past?

Did any previous x-rays ever show RA? Was there significant swelling in the

joints that are typically affected by RA? Did you ever have any rheumatoid

nodules? Did you have morning stiffness that lasted more than an hour? What

were the reasons that your previous rheumatologists said you had RA?

It would be very uncommon for true RA to disappear after 6 years, but it

wouldn't be unusual to be in a drug-induced remission.

Not an MD

I'll tell you where to go!

Mayo Clinic in Rochester

http://www.mayoclinic.org/rochester

s Hopkins Medicine

http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org

[ ] RA remission?

>

> Hi everyone:

>

> I am on my third doctor to treat my RA, and she

> ordered x-rays (knees, feet, hands, wrists) and blood

> work on my first visit. The x-rays show only OA in my

> thumb joints, big toes, and primarily my knees. My

> blood work, after having had a positive RA factor and

> ANA 6 years ago, and a positive ANA just three months

> ago, now is negative RA and also negative ANA.

>

> She is now on the fence regarding my RA diagnosis, and

> is having me start decreasing my Mtx from 8 2.5mg tabs

> weekly, to 6 tabs weekly, to 4 tabs weekly, and then 2

> tabs for 2 weeks, and then stop the med, to see what

> happens. I will still be on Enbrel 2x week and Mobic.

> She says that since the RA factor is negative and she

> cannot see any swelling in any joints, that perhaps

> either my RA is in remission, or under very good

> control, or I no longer have it. The Fibro and OA are

> her only diagoses at this time.

>

> What I want to know is whether or not RA can go into

> remission? Can it simply go away after 6 years?

> Could it be that because of the medications I have

> been on that it is under such good control that the

> blood work is now negative, indicating no RA? I have

> been doing very well joint-wise for about three to six

> months now, with just generalized muscle pain and

> joint/muscle stiffness which is probably more the

> Fibro. Can RA just disappear? or is this a remission

> caused by the medications?

>

> She says that she will be able to know more with my

> reaction to decreasing the Mtx - I have been on 20 mg.

> weekly for about 9 months now, and the Enbrel addition

> is really helping. If I have increasing joint pain

> and swelling, she says that she will feel that I do

> have RA, just RA in control. Kind of confusing, but I

> do like the doctor and she is very thorough.

>

> So, to all of you out there, is there a possibility of

> RA either going away, or being in remission? All

> replies will be greatly appreciated -

>

> Kathe in CA

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Kathe, I'm assuming your new rheumatologist has your entire medical record,

right?

The blood tests aren't as important as your clinical presentation and

x-rays, especially if the results were borderline positive. Or was your RF

very high in the past?

Did any previous x-rays ever show RA? Was there significant swelling in the

joints that are typically affected by RA? Did you ever have any rheumatoid

nodules? Did you have morning stiffness that lasted more than an hour? What

were the reasons that your previous rheumatologists said you had RA?

It would be very uncommon for true RA to disappear after 6 years, but it

wouldn't be unusual to be in a drug-induced remission.

Not an MD

I'll tell you where to go!

Mayo Clinic in Rochester

http://www.mayoclinic.org/rochester

s Hopkins Medicine

http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org

[ ] RA remission?

>

> Hi everyone:

>

> I am on my third doctor to treat my RA, and she

> ordered x-rays (knees, feet, hands, wrists) and blood

> work on my first visit. The x-rays show only OA in my

> thumb joints, big toes, and primarily my knees. My

> blood work, after having had a positive RA factor and

> ANA 6 years ago, and a positive ANA just three months

> ago, now is negative RA and also negative ANA.

>

> She is now on the fence regarding my RA diagnosis, and

> is having me start decreasing my Mtx from 8 2.5mg tabs

> weekly, to 6 tabs weekly, to 4 tabs weekly, and then 2

> tabs for 2 weeks, and then stop the med, to see what

> happens. I will still be on Enbrel 2x week and Mobic.

> She says that since the RA factor is negative and she

> cannot see any swelling in any joints, that perhaps

> either my RA is in remission, or under very good

> control, or I no longer have it. The Fibro and OA are

> her only diagoses at this time.

>

> What I want to know is whether or not RA can go into

> remission? Can it simply go away after 6 years?

> Could it be that because of the medications I have

> been on that it is under such good control that the

> blood work is now negative, indicating no RA? I have

> been doing very well joint-wise for about three to six

> months now, with just generalized muscle pain and

> joint/muscle stiffness which is probably more the

> Fibro. Can RA just disappear? or is this a remission

> caused by the medications?

>

> She says that she will be able to know more with my

> reaction to decreasing the Mtx - I have been on 20 mg.

> weekly for about 9 months now, and the Enbrel addition

> is really helping. If I have increasing joint pain

> and swelling, she says that she will feel that I do

> have RA, just RA in control. Kind of confusing, but I

> do like the doctor and she is very thorough.

>

> So, to all of you out there, is there a possibility of

> RA either going away, or being in remission? All

> replies will be greatly appreciated -

>

> Kathe in CA

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>

> Hi everyone:

> So, to all of you out there, is there a possibility of

> RA either going away, or being in remission?

--------------------------------------------------------

Oh, yes! A certain (small) percentage of RA cases do go into remission.

Remissions can be long or short lasting, and some are permanent. Some

individuals only stay in remission with drug therapy.

You've got what I'm hoping for. Celebrate!!!

Sierra

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>

> Hi everyone:

> So, to all of you out there, is there a possibility of

> RA either going away, or being in remission?

--------------------------------------------------------

Oh, yes! A certain (small) percentage of RA cases do go into remission.

Remissions can be long or short lasting, and some are permanent. Some

individuals only stay in remission with drug therapy.

You've got what I'm hoping for. Celebrate!!!

Sierra

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My doctor tells me that RA can go into Remission, but eventually will come back,

so enjoy the remission!!! Im happy for you that it is so much better, sorry to

hear about the OA in the thumbs and toes.

Cortnee

Kathe Sabetzadeh <lv2ryd@...> wrote:

Hi everyone:

I am on my third doctor to treat my RA, and she

ordered x-rays (knees, feet, hands, wrists) and blood

work on my first visit. The x-rays show only OA in my

thumb joints, big toes, and primarily my knees. My

blood work, after having had a positive RA factor and

ANA 6 years ago, and a positive ANA just three months

ago, now is negative RA and also negative ANA.

She is now on the fence regarding my RA diagnosis, and

is having me start decreasing my Mtx from 8 2.5mg tabs

weekly, to 6 tabs weekly, to 4 tabs weekly, and then 2

tabs for 2 weeks, and then stop the med, to see what

happens. I will still be on Enbrel 2x week and Mobic.

She says that since the RA factor is negative and she

cannot see any swelling in any joints, that perhaps

either my RA is in remission, or under very good

control, or I no longer have it. The Fibro and OA are

her only diagoses at this time.

What I want to know is whether or not RA can go into

remission? Can it simply go away after 6 years?

Could it be that because of the medications I have

been on that it is under such good control that the

blood work is now negative, indicating no RA? I have

been doing very well joint-wise for about three to six

months now, with just generalized muscle pain and

joint/muscle stiffness which is probably more the

Fibro. Can RA just disappear? or is this a remission

caused by the medications?

She says that she will be able to know more with my

reaction to decreasing the Mtx - I have been on 20 mg.

weekly for about 9 months now, and the Enbrel addition

is really helping. If I have increasing joint pain

and swelling, she says that she will feel that I do

have RA, just RA in control. Kind of confusing, but I

do like the doctor and she is very thorough.

So, to all of you out there, is there a possibility of

RA either going away, or being in remission? All

replies will be greatly appreciated -

Kathe in CA

Kathe in CA

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My doctor tells me that RA can go into Remission, but eventually will come back,

so enjoy the remission!!! Im happy for you that it is so much better, sorry to

hear about the OA in the thumbs and toes.

Cortnee

Kathe Sabetzadeh <lv2ryd@...> wrote:

Hi everyone:

I am on my third doctor to treat my RA, and she

ordered x-rays (knees, feet, hands, wrists) and blood

work on my first visit. The x-rays show only OA in my

thumb joints, big toes, and primarily my knees. My

blood work, after having had a positive RA factor and

ANA 6 years ago, and a positive ANA just three months

ago, now is negative RA and also negative ANA.

She is now on the fence regarding my RA diagnosis, and

is having me start decreasing my Mtx from 8 2.5mg tabs

weekly, to 6 tabs weekly, to 4 tabs weekly, and then 2

tabs for 2 weeks, and then stop the med, to see what

happens. I will still be on Enbrel 2x week and Mobic.

She says that since the RA factor is negative and she

cannot see any swelling in any joints, that perhaps

either my RA is in remission, or under very good

control, or I no longer have it. The Fibro and OA are

her only diagoses at this time.

What I want to know is whether or not RA can go into

remission? Can it simply go away after 6 years?

Could it be that because of the medications I have

been on that it is under such good control that the

blood work is now negative, indicating no RA? I have

been doing very well joint-wise for about three to six

months now, with just generalized muscle pain and

joint/muscle stiffness which is probably more the

Fibro. Can RA just disappear? or is this a remission

caused by the medications?

She says that she will be able to know more with my

reaction to decreasing the Mtx - I have been on 20 mg.

weekly for about 9 months now, and the Enbrel addition

is really helping. If I have increasing joint pain

and swelling, she says that she will feel that I do

have RA, just RA in control. Kind of confusing, but I

do like the doctor and she is very thorough.

So, to all of you out there, is there a possibility of

RA either going away, or being in remission? All

replies will be greatly appreciated -

Kathe in CA

Kathe in CA

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After I had been on Arava for a while, my rheumy ordered a repeat of

Sed rate and CRP. Both had returned to normal. He said the RF factor

was not as good an indication of disease activity, so that was not

done. But my RA had certainly not disappeared; it was just under

control. Sue

On Saturday, August 20, 2005, at 10:40 AM, wrote:

> The blood tests aren't as important as your clinical presentation and

> x-rays, especially if the results were borderline positive. Or was

> your RF

> very high in the past?

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After I had been on Arava for a while, my rheumy ordered a repeat of

Sed rate and CRP. Both had returned to normal. He said the RF factor

was not as good an indication of disease activity, so that was not

done. But my RA had certainly not disappeared; it was just under

control. Sue

On Saturday, August 20, 2005, at 10:40 AM, wrote:

> The blood tests aren't as important as your clinical presentation and

> x-rays, especially if the results were borderline positive. Or was

> your RF

> very high in the past?

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Hi, Sue. I was asking Kathe about her RF history because her original

diagnosis has come into question.

It's true that many rheumatologists don't use it to monitor disease

activity.

Not an MD

I'll tell you where to go!

Mayo Clinic in Rochester

http://www.mayoclinic.org/rochester

s Hopkins Medicine

http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org

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> After I had been on Arava for a while, my rheumy ordered a repeat of

> Sed rate and CRP. Both had returned to normal. He said the RF factor

> was not as good an indication of disease activity, so that was not

> done. But my RA had certainly not disappeared; it was just under

> control. Sue

>

> On Saturday, August 20, 2005, at 10:40 AM, wrote:

>

>> The blood tests aren't as important as your clinical presentation and

>> x-rays, especially if the results were borderline positive. Or was

>> your RF

>> very high in the past?

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Hi, Sue. I was asking Kathe about her RF history because her original

diagnosis has come into question.

It's true that many rheumatologists don't use it to monitor disease

activity.

Not an MD

I'll tell you where to go!

Mayo Clinic in Rochester

http://www.mayoclinic.org/rochester

s Hopkins Medicine

http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org

Re: [ ] RA remission?

> After I had been on Arava for a while, my rheumy ordered a repeat of

> Sed rate and CRP. Both had returned to normal. He said the RF factor

> was not as good an indication of disease activity, so that was not

> done. But my RA had certainly not disappeared; it was just under

> control. Sue

>

> On Saturday, August 20, 2005, at 10:40 AM, wrote:

>

>> The blood tests aren't as important as your clinical presentation and

>> x-rays, especially if the results were borderline positive. Or was

>> your RF

>> very high in the past?

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Hi :

When I went to my doctor for the first flare, my

fingers and hands were very swollen, hot, and

extremely painful. This happened literally overnight -

the day before I had a very painful thumbs, but I was

not too concerned about it. I could not grip or open

my bottle of Motrin. I could not get dressed by myself

or tie my shoes the next day. (Previously, I had been

having pain and stiffness in my hands and fingers and

wrists for quite a while, no swelling, but put it down

to my making jewelry which worked my hands well, and

my having been a medical transcriber for many years.

I just put it down to " arthritis " .) My feet were also

swollen during that first flare. My doctor put me on

Prednisone and Motrin, and took blood work. The week

following, when my blood work was positive for the RA

factor and positive ANA and SED rate, she started me

on Plaquenil in addition to the other meds. I cannot

recall what the exact numbers were, but the way she

talked it seemed not low, but not high, kind of in the

middle range I guess.

I took the Pred for about 3 months and then titered

off and remained on the other two meds for about two

years with good result. Prednisone on and off when

needed. The fatigue has always been present, as well

as stiffness lasting more than one hour in the

mornings. More and more joints became involved with

pain and stiffness, and more meds were tried until the

Methotrexate and Arava started helping.

My x-rays have been normal, only the OA now seen. My

doctor never checked for RA factor again.

Over the years, I have experienced swelling in my

hands and fingers, and my feet, and heat in mainly my

hands, elbows, wrists, ankles and feet. My hips are

very painful at night. Stiffness is now down to about

an hour or less after I get up most days, but usually

at least one-half hour of hobbling. The fatigue has

remained pretty constant, increasing when the pain

does. I have no rheumatoid nodules.

Because of my clinical presentation over the five and

a half years I was treated by my first doctor, and

blood work, my doctor diagnosed RA. My grandmother

had RA and my grandfather had PA, so I have a family

history of immune system disease. My second doctor

continued her treatment program, only increasing the

Mtx, and adding Trazadone and in the last three

months, Enbrel.

During my treatment, I have continued to have flares

of pain with warmth and swelling, stiffness, less

problems gripping and opening things, and severe

fatigue. I'd do better, and then flare again. This is

the first time I have felt " normal " - I am able to

move around better, there is no swelling, and less

pain and stiffness overall. I credit this to the

Enbrel and Mtx working together. My current doctor

does not have my first doctor's records as she moved

out of the area and I am don't know where my records

are now.

Anyway, sorry for being so long, but that's about it

in a nutshell. Personally, I do believe you can go

into a drug induced remission, but I don't think the

RA ever goes away entirely, and I don't know how I

will do with the decrease and stopping of the Mtx, but

we shall see.

Remission, if that is what it is, I am enjoying for

now.

Kathe in CA

--- <Matsumura_Clan@...> wrote:

> Kathe, I'm assuming your new rheumatologist has your

> entire medical record,

> right?

>

> The blood tests aren't as important as your clinical

> presentation and

> x-rays, especially if the results were borderline

> positive. Or was your RF

> very high in the past?

>

> Did any previous x-rays ever show RA? Was there

> significant swelling in the

> joints that are typically affected by RA? Did you

> ever have any rheumatoid

> nodules? Did you have morning stiffness that lasted

> more than an hour? What

> were the reasons that your previous rheumatologists

> said you had RA?

>

> It would be very uncommon for true RA to disappear

> after 6 years, but it

> wouldn't be unusual to be in a drug-induced

> remission.

>

>

>

>

> Not an MD

>

> I'll tell you where to go!

>

> Mayo Clinic in Rochester

> http://www.mayoclinic.org/rochester

>

> s Hopkins Medicine

> http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org

>

>

> [ ] RA remission?

>

>

> >

> > Hi everyone:

> >

> > I am on my third doctor to treat my RA, and she

> > ordered x-rays (knees, feet, hands, wrists) and

> blood

> > work on my first visit. The x-rays show only OA

> in my

> > thumb joints, big toes, and primarily my knees.

> My

> > blood work, after having had a positive RA factor

> and

> > ANA 6 years ago, and a positive ANA just three

> months

> > ago, now is negative RA and also negative ANA.

> >

> > She is now on the fence regarding my RA diagnosis,

> and

> > is having me start decreasing my Mtx from 8 2.5mg

> tabs

> > weekly, to 6 tabs weekly, to 4 tabs weekly, and

> then 2

> > tabs for 2 weeks, and then stop the med, to see

> what

> > happens. I will still be on Enbrel 2x week and

> Mobic.

> > She says that since the RA factor is negative and

> she

> > cannot see any swelling in any joints, that

> perhaps

> > either my RA is in remission, or under very good

> > control, or I no longer have it. The Fibro and OA

> are

> > her only diagoses at this time.

> >

> > What I want to know is whether or not RA can go

> into

> > remission? Can it simply go away after 6 years?

> > Could it be that because of the medications I have

> > been on that it is under such good control that

> the

> > blood work is now negative, indicating no RA? I

> have

> > been doing very well joint-wise for about three to

> six

> > months now, with just generalized muscle pain and

> > joint/muscle stiffness which is probably more the

> > Fibro. Can RA just disappear? or is this a

> remission

> > caused by the medications?

> >

> > She says that she will be able to know more with

> my

> > reaction to decreasing the Mtx - I have been on 20

> mg.

> > weekly for about 9 months now, and the Enbrel

> addition

> > is really helping. If I have increasing joint

> pain

> > and swelling, she says that she will feel that I

> do

> > have RA, just RA in control. Kind of confusing,

> but I

> > do like the doctor and she is very thorough.

> >

> > So, to all of you out there, is there a

> possibility of

> > RA either going away, or being in remission? All

> > replies will be greatly appreciated -

> >

> > Kathe in CA

>

Kathe in CA

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Hi :

When I went to my doctor for the first flare, my

fingers and hands were very swollen, hot, and

extremely painful. This happened literally overnight -

the day before I had a very painful thumbs, but I was

not too concerned about it. I could not grip or open

my bottle of Motrin. I could not get dressed by myself

or tie my shoes the next day. (Previously, I had been

having pain and stiffness in my hands and fingers and

wrists for quite a while, no swelling, but put it down

to my making jewelry which worked my hands well, and

my having been a medical transcriber for many years.

I just put it down to " arthritis " .) My feet were also

swollen during that first flare. My doctor put me on

Prednisone and Motrin, and took blood work. The week

following, when my blood work was positive for the RA

factor and positive ANA and SED rate, she started me

on Plaquenil in addition to the other meds. I cannot

recall what the exact numbers were, but the way she

talked it seemed not low, but not high, kind of in the

middle range I guess.

I took the Pred for about 3 months and then titered

off and remained on the other two meds for about two

years with good result. Prednisone on and off when

needed. The fatigue has always been present, as well

as stiffness lasting more than one hour in the

mornings. More and more joints became involved with

pain and stiffness, and more meds were tried until the

Methotrexate and Arava started helping.

My x-rays have been normal, only the OA now seen. My

doctor never checked for RA factor again.

Over the years, I have experienced swelling in my

hands and fingers, and my feet, and heat in mainly my

hands, elbows, wrists, ankles and feet. My hips are

very painful at night. Stiffness is now down to about

an hour or less after I get up most days, but usually

at least one-half hour of hobbling. The fatigue has

remained pretty constant, increasing when the pain

does. I have no rheumatoid nodules.

Because of my clinical presentation over the five and

a half years I was treated by my first doctor, and

blood work, my doctor diagnosed RA. My grandmother

had RA and my grandfather had PA, so I have a family

history of immune system disease. My second doctor

continued her treatment program, only increasing the

Mtx, and adding Trazadone and in the last three

months, Enbrel.

During my treatment, I have continued to have flares

of pain with warmth and swelling, stiffness, less

problems gripping and opening things, and severe

fatigue. I'd do better, and then flare again. This is

the first time I have felt " normal " - I am able to

move around better, there is no swelling, and less

pain and stiffness overall. I credit this to the

Enbrel and Mtx working together. My current doctor

does not have my first doctor's records as she moved

out of the area and I am don't know where my records

are now.

Anyway, sorry for being so long, but that's about it

in a nutshell. Personally, I do believe you can go

into a drug induced remission, but I don't think the

RA ever goes away entirely, and I don't know how I

will do with the decrease and stopping of the Mtx, but

we shall see.

Remission, if that is what it is, I am enjoying for

now.

Kathe in CA

--- <Matsumura_Clan@...> wrote:

> Kathe, I'm assuming your new rheumatologist has your

> entire medical record,

> right?

>

> The blood tests aren't as important as your clinical

> presentation and

> x-rays, especially if the results were borderline

> positive. Or was your RF

> very high in the past?

>

> Did any previous x-rays ever show RA? Was there

> significant swelling in the

> joints that are typically affected by RA? Did you

> ever have any rheumatoid

> nodules? Did you have morning stiffness that lasted

> more than an hour? What

> were the reasons that your previous rheumatologists

> said you had RA?

>

> It would be very uncommon for true RA to disappear

> after 6 years, but it

> wouldn't be unusual to be in a drug-induced

> remission.

>

>

>

>

> Not an MD

>

> I'll tell you where to go!

>

> Mayo Clinic in Rochester

> http://www.mayoclinic.org/rochester

>

> s Hopkins Medicine

> http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org

>

>

> [ ] RA remission?

>

>

> >

> > Hi everyone:

> >

> > I am on my third doctor to treat my RA, and she

> > ordered x-rays (knees, feet, hands, wrists) and

> blood

> > work on my first visit. The x-rays show only OA

> in my

> > thumb joints, big toes, and primarily my knees.

> My

> > blood work, after having had a positive RA factor

> and

> > ANA 6 years ago, and a positive ANA just three

> months

> > ago, now is negative RA and also negative ANA.

> >

> > She is now on the fence regarding my RA diagnosis,

> and

> > is having me start decreasing my Mtx from 8 2.5mg

> tabs

> > weekly, to 6 tabs weekly, to 4 tabs weekly, and

> then 2

> > tabs for 2 weeks, and then stop the med, to see

> what

> > happens. I will still be on Enbrel 2x week and

> Mobic.

> > She says that since the RA factor is negative and

> she

> > cannot see any swelling in any joints, that

> perhaps

> > either my RA is in remission, or under very good

> > control, or I no longer have it. The Fibro and OA

> are

> > her only diagoses at this time.

> >

> > What I want to know is whether or not RA can go

> into

> > remission? Can it simply go away after 6 years?

> > Could it be that because of the medications I have

> > been on that it is under such good control that

> the

> > blood work is now negative, indicating no RA? I

> have

> > been doing very well joint-wise for about three to

> six

> > months now, with just generalized muscle pain and

> > joint/muscle stiffness which is probably more the

> > Fibro. Can RA just disappear? or is this a

> remission

> > caused by the medications?

> >

> > She says that she will be able to know more with

> my

> > reaction to decreasing the Mtx - I have been on 20

> mg.

> > weekly for about 9 months now, and the Enbrel

> addition

> > is really helping. If I have increasing joint

> pain

> > and swelling, she says that she will feel that I

> do

> > have RA, just RA in control. Kind of confusing,

> but I

> > do like the doctor and she is very thorough.

> >

> > So, to all of you out there, is there a

> possibility of

> > RA either going away, or being in remission? All

> > replies will be greatly appreciated -

> >

> > Kathe in CA

>

Kathe in CA

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Well, Kathe, it sounds like you are in remission.

I hope your new physician is willing to see you immediately should things go

downhill as you decrease the MTX.

Here's to hoping it lasts even without as much MTX!

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Re: [ ] RA remission?

> Hi :

>

> When I went to my doctor for the first flare, my

> fingers and hands were very swollen, hot, and

> extremely painful. This happened literally overnight -

> the day before I had a very painful thumbs, but I was

> not too concerned about it. I could not grip or open

> my bottle of Motrin. I could not get dressed by myself

> or tie my shoes the next day. (Previously, I had been

> having pain and stiffness in my hands and fingers and

> wrists for quite a while, no swelling, but put it down

> to my making jewelry which worked my hands well, and

> my having been a medical transcriber for many years.

> I just put it down to " arthritis " .) My feet were also

> swollen during that first flare. My doctor put me on

> Prednisone and Motrin, and took blood work. The week

> following, when my blood work was positive for the RA

> factor and positive ANA and SED rate, she started me

> on Plaquenil in addition to the other meds. I cannot

> recall what the exact numbers were, but the way she

> talked it seemed not low, but not high, kind of in the

> middle range I guess.

>

> I took the Pred for about 3 months and then titered

> off and remained on the other two meds for about two

> years with good result. Prednisone on and off when

> needed. The fatigue has always been present, as well

> as stiffness lasting more than one hour in the

> mornings. More and more joints became involved with

> pain and stiffness, and more meds were tried until the

> Methotrexate and Arava started helping.

>

> My x-rays have been normal, only the OA now seen. My

> doctor never checked for RA factor again.

>

> Over the years, I have experienced swelling in my

> hands and fingers, and my feet, and heat in mainly my

> hands, elbows, wrists, ankles and feet. My hips are

> very painful at night. Stiffness is now down to about

> an hour or less after I get up most days, but usually

> at least one-half hour of hobbling. The fatigue has

> remained pretty constant, increasing when the pain

> does. I have no rheumatoid nodules.

>

> Because of my clinical presentation over the five and

> a half years I was treated by my first doctor, and

> blood work, my doctor diagnosed RA. My grandmother

> had RA and my grandfather had PA, so I have a family

> history of immune system disease. My second doctor

> continued her treatment program, only increasing the

> Mtx, and adding Trazadone and in the last three

> months, Enbrel.

>

> During my treatment, I have continued to have flares

> of pain with warmth and swelling, stiffness, less

> problems gripping and opening things, and severe

> fatigue. I'd do better, and then flare again. This is

> the first time I have felt " normal " - I am able to

> move around better, there is no swelling, and less

> pain and stiffness overall. I credit this to the

> Enbrel and Mtx working together. My current doctor

> does not have my first doctor's records as she moved

> out of the area and I am don't know where my records

> are now.

>

> Anyway, sorry for being so long, but that's about it

> in a nutshell. Personally, I do believe you can go

> into a drug induced remission, but I don't think the

> RA ever goes away entirely, and I don't know how I

> will do with the decrease and stopping of the Mtx, but

> we shall see.

> Remission, if that is what it is, I am enjoying for

> now.

>

> Kathe in CA

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Well, Kathe, it sounds like you are in remission.

I hope your new physician is willing to see you immediately should things go

downhill as you decrease the MTX.

Here's to hoping it lasts even without as much MTX!

Not an MD

I'll tell you where to go!

Mayo Clinic in Rochester

http://www.mayoclinic.org/rochester

s Hopkins Medicine

http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org

Re: [ ] RA remission?

> Hi :

>

> When I went to my doctor for the first flare, my

> fingers and hands were very swollen, hot, and

> extremely painful. This happened literally overnight -

> the day before I had a very painful thumbs, but I was

> not too concerned about it. I could not grip or open

> my bottle of Motrin. I could not get dressed by myself

> or tie my shoes the next day. (Previously, I had been

> having pain and stiffness in my hands and fingers and

> wrists for quite a while, no swelling, but put it down

> to my making jewelry which worked my hands well, and

> my having been a medical transcriber for many years.

> I just put it down to " arthritis " .) My feet were also

> swollen during that first flare. My doctor put me on

> Prednisone and Motrin, and took blood work. The week

> following, when my blood work was positive for the RA

> factor and positive ANA and SED rate, she started me

> on Plaquenil in addition to the other meds. I cannot

> recall what the exact numbers were, but the way she

> talked it seemed not low, but not high, kind of in the

> middle range I guess.

>

> I took the Pred for about 3 months and then titered

> off and remained on the other two meds for about two

> years with good result. Prednisone on and off when

> needed. The fatigue has always been present, as well

> as stiffness lasting more than one hour in the

> mornings. More and more joints became involved with

> pain and stiffness, and more meds were tried until the

> Methotrexate and Arava started helping.

>

> My x-rays have been normal, only the OA now seen. My

> doctor never checked for RA factor again.

>

> Over the years, I have experienced swelling in my

> hands and fingers, and my feet, and heat in mainly my

> hands, elbows, wrists, ankles and feet. My hips are

> very painful at night. Stiffness is now down to about

> an hour or less after I get up most days, but usually

> at least one-half hour of hobbling. The fatigue has

> remained pretty constant, increasing when the pain

> does. I have no rheumatoid nodules.

>

> Because of my clinical presentation over the five and

> a half years I was treated by my first doctor, and

> blood work, my doctor diagnosed RA. My grandmother

> had RA and my grandfather had PA, so I have a family

> history of immune system disease. My second doctor

> continued her treatment program, only increasing the

> Mtx, and adding Trazadone and in the last three

> months, Enbrel.

>

> During my treatment, I have continued to have flares

> of pain with warmth and swelling, stiffness, less

> problems gripping and opening things, and severe

> fatigue. I'd do better, and then flare again. This is

> the first time I have felt " normal " - I am able to

> move around better, there is no swelling, and less

> pain and stiffness overall. I credit this to the

> Enbrel and Mtx working together. My current doctor

> does not have my first doctor's records as she moved

> out of the area and I am don't know where my records

> are now.

>

> Anyway, sorry for being so long, but that's about it

> in a nutshell. Personally, I do believe you can go

> into a drug induced remission, but I don't think the

> RA ever goes away entirely, and I don't know how I

> will do with the decrease and stopping of the Mtx, but

> we shall see.

> Remission, if that is what it is, I am enjoying for

> now.

>

> Kathe in CA

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I had fm from 1989 to Feb 09, in Feb, came down with an extra low vit D count and my ra factor was 255 among some other tests, took predisone pack until I could get to my ra dr. which helped the symptoms a great deal but was still suffering, ra dr. comfirmed ra, started me on sulfadine and meloxicam and improved tremendously. I have a few lingering symptoms but my fm pain (which was different types of pain) is gone. I don't think I am in an RA remission as I am taking meds and have some pain in hand at times and I don't bend and stoop as good as I use to but the fm seems to be gone. Strange, strange, no answers for that one.

From: Vicki Hoyt <dvhoyt@...>Subject: RA remission?"rheumatoid arthritis group" <Rheumatoid Arthritis >Date: Friday, October 2, 2009, 11:01 AM

Can RA go into remission? I've had two dr's saw I have it but my new dr says he doesn't think I have it because there is no swelling right now. But I do have fibromyalgia and that is severe.Thanks,Vicki

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yes it can, and since you did have a few, do you just stop taking meds and see what happens? did you have no symptoms at all with meds and then stopped taking them? I always wonder as most people take 3 or 4 months to get relieve after they start meds and it would be scary to go through all that pain again for nothing.

thanks

From: beezer6636 <beezer6636@...>Subject: Re: RA remission?Rheumatoid Arthritis Date: Friday, October 2, 2009, 12:11 PM

Yes, RA can go into remission. I have had RA since I was 3 1/2 (more than 1/2 a century)and have had 2 remissions.> Can RA go into remission?< __________________________________________________

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That might depend on how you define “remission”.

For some it is absence of active disease progression and for others it is no

symptoms of disease at all. Some say you have to be off medications and

others say you can have a medically controlled remission. I think any

type of remission is possible but medically controlled remission with no

disease progression is by far the most common. I think that’s where

I am now and I take Methotrexate and Remicade to provide this remission.

I hope you get some form of remission. God bless.

Harold

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I have it but my new dr says he doesn't think I have it because there is no

swelling right now. But I do have fibromyalgia and that is severe.

Thanks,

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My vitamin D levels have been low but I don't know what my factor is. It comes back as a weak positive. My doc says I don't have a lot of swelling. He's weaning me off my methotrexate so we'll see if I flare. I guess I traded pain from RA for pain from fibro.

Vicki

From: ish <reneehearttoheart@...>Rheumatoid Arthritis Sent: Friday, October 2, 2009 11:53:17 AMSubject: Re: RA remission?

I had fm from 1989 to Feb 09, in Feb, came down with an extra low vit D count and my ra factor was 255 among some other tests, took predisone pack until I could get to my ra dr. which helped the symptoms a great deal but was still suffering, ra dr. comfirmed ra, started me on sulfadine and meloxicam and improved tremendously. I have a few lingering symptoms but my fm pain (which was different types of pain) is gone. I don't think I am in an RA remission as I am taking meds and have some pain in hand at times and I don't bend and stoop as good as I use to but the fm seems to be gone. Strange, strange, no answers for that one.

From: Vicki Hoyt <dvhoyt (DOT) com>Subject: [rheumatoid_ arthritis] RA remission?"rheumatoid arthritis group" <rheumatoid_arthriti sgroups (DOT) com>Date: Friday, October 2, 2009, 11:01 AM

Can RA go into remission? I've had two dr's saw I have it but my new dr says he doesn't think I have it because there is no swelling right now. But I do have fibromyalgia and that is severe.Thanks,Vicki

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