Guest guest Posted February 1, 2011 Report Share Posted February 1, 2011 I just wanted to update that I'm still having a terrible time with canker sores after starting the Orencia but my Dr. prescribed something called " 's Magic Liquid " and it really seems to work lol. From what I can tell it's a mixture the pharmacists puts together consisting of benedryl, malox, lidicane, and tetracycline. You swish it around and spit / or swallow it depending if you have sores in the very back or throat. The Orencia is working nicely other than that...and I've had 6 infusions with my next being this Friday --- In Rheumatoid Arthritis , " Beyke " <karenbeyke@...> wrote: > > Of course, you need to check with your doc.s/he might have other ideas. > Salt water rinses helped me, too. > > > > Beyke > > _____ > > From: Rheumatoid Arthritis > [mailto:Rheumatoid Arthritis ] On Behalf Of Beyke > Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 4:48 PM > Rheumatoid Arthritis > Subject: RE: Orencia Side effects??? > > > > > > Canker sores are a side effect, but also of MTX, I believe. I take three > prescription strength folic acid tabs a day and it helps. > > I remember vivid dreams in the beginning, but I'm not having them now, about > 2 years later. > > > > > > > > _____ > > From: Rheumatoid Arthritis > [mailto:Rheumatoid Arthritis ] On Behalf Of > i_live_in_slippers > Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 3:59 PM > Rheumatoid Arthritis > Subject: Orencia Side effects??? > > > > > > I've now had 6 infusions of Orencia and can finally say it does seem to be > working! YAY!! I'm off my prednisone and am still doing ok...not GREAT but > definetely ok and am so happy to be off it. I had taken it daily for 2.5yrs. > > The weird thing is, Im having a terrible time with canker sores now. I > usually have at least 1 and sometimes several at a time. I always have one > and they are big and hurt. I thought it was my 10mg of mtx so I stopped it > too, didnt help. This really started to be a problem after my 3rd infusion. > It has to be the orencia. The other weird side effect Im having is vivid > dreams. Not necessarily scary dreams just weird ones, alot of them which is > very unusual for me. > > Anyonelse? > > size=1 width= " 100% " noshade color= " #d7a52f " align=center> > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3363 - Release Date: 01/06/11 > > > > _____ > > size=1 width= " 100% " noshade color= " #d7a52f " align=center> > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3365 - Release Date: 01/07/11 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 A quick Google search makes me wonder if this is a specific product with real controls. I think it is worth further checking before you take the plunge. God bless.http://theblondepharmacist.com/2007/06/25/magic-mouthwash-the-vague-term-for-a-concoction-of-anything/ From: Rheumatoid Arthritis [mailto:Rheumatoid Arthritis ] On Behalf Of i_live_in_slippersSent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 12:40 PMRheumatoid Arthritis Subject: Re: Orencia Side effects (Canker Sores) I just wanted to update that I'm still having a terrible time with canker sores after starting the Orencia but my Dr. prescribed something called " 's Magic Liquid " and it really seems to work lol. From what I can tell it's a mixture the pharmacists puts together consisting of benedryl, malox, lidicane, and tetracycline. You swish it around and spit / or swallow it depending if you have sores in the very back or throat.The Orencia is working nicely other than that...and I've had 6 infusions with my next being this Friday >> Of course, you need to check with your doc.s/he might have other ideas.> Salt water rinses helped me, too.> > > > Beyke> > _____ > > From: Rheumatoid Arthritis > [mailto:Rheumatoid Arthritis ] On Behalf Of Beyke> Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 4:48 PM> Rheumatoid Arthritis > Subject: RE: Orencia Side effects???> > > > > > Canker sores are a side effect, but also of MTX, I believe. I take three> prescription strength folic acid tabs a day and it helps.> > I remember vivid dreams in the beginning, but I'm not having them now, about> 2 years later.> > > > > > > > _____ > > From: Rheumatoid Arthritis > [mailto:Rheumatoid Arthritis ] On Behalf Of> i_live_in_slippers> Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 3:59 PM> Rheumatoid Arthritis > Subject: Orencia Side effects???> > > > > > I've now had 6 infusions of Orencia and can finally say it does seem to be> working! YAY!! I'm off my prednisone and am still doing ok...not GREAT but> definetely ok and am so happy to be off it. I had taken it daily for 2.5yrs.> > The weird thing is, Im having a terrible time with canker sores now. I> usually have at least 1 and sometimes several at a time. I always have one> and they are big and hurt. I thought it was my 10mg of mtx so I stopped it> too, didnt help. This really started to be a problem after my 3rd infusion.> It has to be the orencia. The other weird side effect Im having is vivid> dreams. Not necessarily scary dreams just weird ones, alot of them which is> very unusual for me.> > Anyonelse?> > size=1 width= " 100% " noshade color= " #d7a52f " align=center> > > No virus found in this message.> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3363 - Release Date: 01/06/11> > > > _____ > > size=1 width= " 100% " noshade color= " #d7a52f " align=center> > > No virus found in this message.> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3365 - Release Date: 01/07/11> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 I dont know either but Im using it and it's working My dr. wrote it like a normal prescription that I turned into the pharmacy..and it's like a real prescription label and all that calls it " mary's magic liquid " lol but I did find it odd that I got no paperwork with it ...no warnings, no ingredients, nothing. I instantly tasted the malox after taste and could tell there was a numbing agent but the rest I discovered online..and only assume it's right. Nontheless it's working > > > > Of course, you need to check with your doc.s/he might have other ideas. > > Salt water rinses helped me, too. > > > > > > > > Beyke > > > > _____ > > > > From: Rheumatoid Arthritis > <mailto:Rheumatoid Arthritis%40> > > [mailto:Rheumatoid Arthritis > <mailto:Rheumatoid Arthritis%40> ] On Behalf Of Beyke > > Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 4:48 PM > > Rheumatoid Arthritis > <mailto:Rheumatoid Arthritis%40> > > Subject: RE: Orencia Side effects??? > > > > > > > > > > > > Canker sores are a side effect, but also of MTX, I believe. I take three > > prescription strength folic acid tabs a day and it helps. > > > > I remember vivid dreams in the beginning, but I'm not having them now, > about > > 2 years later. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > From: Rheumatoid Arthritis > <mailto:Rheumatoid Arthritis%40> > > [mailto:Rheumatoid Arthritis > <mailto:Rheumatoid Arthritis%40> ] On Behalf Of > > i_live_in_slippers > > Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 3:59 PM > > Rheumatoid Arthritis > <mailto:Rheumatoid Arthritis%40> > > Subject: Orencia Side effects??? > > > > > > > > > > > > I've now had 6 infusions of Orencia and can finally say it does seem to be > > working! YAY!! I'm off my prednisone and am still doing ok...not GREAT but > > definetely ok and am so happy to be off it. I had taken it daily for > 2.5yrs. > > > > The weird thing is, Im having a terrible time with canker sores now. I > > usually have at least 1 and sometimes several at a time. I always have one > > and they are big and hurt. I thought it was my 10mg of mtx so I stopped it > > too, didnt help. This really started to be a problem after my 3rd > infusion. > > It has to be the orencia. The other weird side effect Im having is vivid > > dreams. Not necessarily scary dreams just weird ones, alot of them which > is > > very unusual for me. > > > > Anyonelse? > > > > size=1 width= " 100% " noshade color= " #d7a52f " align=center> > > > > No virus found in this message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3363 - Release Date: 01/06/11 > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > size=1 width= " 100% " noshade color= " #d7a52f " align=center> > > > > No virus found in this message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3365 - Release Date: 01/07/11 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 I just called my pharmacy to actually ask what's in it and was told that it's a mixture presciption tailored by the writing doctors requests. I was told it usually always has benedryl, hydrocortisone, nystatin, tetracycline, she said then sometimes it has malox and a few others depending how the dr. writes it. She said it's fine to use and supposidly really works :)So far seems to be true:) > > > > > > Of course, you need to check with your doc.s/he might have other ideas. > > > Salt water rinses helped me, too. > > > > > > > > > > > > Beyke > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > From: Rheumatoid Arthritis > > <mailto:Rheumatoid Arthritis%40> > > > [mailto:Rheumatoid Arthritis > > <mailto:Rheumatoid Arthritis%40> ] On Behalf Of Beyke > > > Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 4:48 PM > > > Rheumatoid Arthritis > > <mailto:Rheumatoid Arthritis%40> > > > Subject: RE: Orencia Side effects??? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Canker sores are a side effect, but also of MTX, I believe. I take three > > > prescription strength folic acid tabs a day and it helps. > > > > > > I remember vivid dreams in the beginning, but I'm not having them now, > > about > > > 2 years later. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > From: Rheumatoid Arthritis > > <mailto:Rheumatoid Arthritis%40> > > > [mailto:Rheumatoid Arthritis > > <mailto:Rheumatoid Arthritis%40> ] On Behalf Of > > > i_live_in_slippers > > > Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 3:59 PM > > > Rheumatoid Arthritis > > <mailto:Rheumatoid Arthritis%40> > > > Subject: Orencia Side effects??? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've now had 6 infusions of Orencia and can finally say it does seem to be > > > working! YAY!! I'm off my prednisone and am still doing ok...not GREAT but > > > definetely ok and am so happy to be off it. I had taken it daily for > > 2.5yrs. > > > > > > The weird thing is, Im having a terrible time with canker sores now. I > > > usually have at least 1 and sometimes several at a time. I always have one > > > and they are big and hurt. I thought it was my 10mg of mtx so I stopped it > > > too, didnt help. This really started to be a problem after my 3rd > > infusion. > > > It has to be the orencia. The other weird side effect Im having is vivid > > > dreams. Not necessarily scary dreams just weird ones, alot of them which > > is > > > very unusual for me. > > > > > > Anyonelse? > > > > > > size=1 width= " 100% " noshade color= " #d7a52f " align=center> > > > > > > No virus found in this message. > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3363 - Release Date: 01/06/11 > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > size=1 width= " 100% " noshade color= " #d7a52f " align=center> > > > > > > No virus found in this message. > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3365 - Release Date: 01/07/11 > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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