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I just wanted to update that I'm still having a terrible time with canker sores

after starting the Orencia but my Dr. prescribed something called " 's Magic

Liquid " and it really seems to work lol. From what I can tell it's a mixture the

pharmacists puts together consisting of benedryl, malox, lidicane, and

tetracycline. You swish it around and spit / or swallow it depending if you have

sores in the very back or throat.

The Orencia is working nicely other than that...and I've had 6 infusions with my

next being this Friday :)

--- In Rheumatoid Arthritis , " Beyke " <karenbeyke@...>

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> Of course, you need to check with your doc.s/he might have other ideas.

> Salt water rinses helped me, too.

>

>

>

> Beyke

>

> _____

>

> From: Rheumatoid Arthritis

> [mailto:Rheumatoid Arthritis ] On Behalf Of Beyke

> Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 4:48 PM

> Rheumatoid Arthritis

> Subject: RE: Orencia Side effects???

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> Canker sores are a side effect, but also of MTX, I believe. I take three

> prescription strength folic acid tabs a day and it helps.

>

> I remember vivid dreams in the beginning, but I'm not having them now, about

> 2 years later.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> _____

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> From: Rheumatoid Arthritis

> [mailto:Rheumatoid Arthritis ] On Behalf Of

> i_live_in_slippers

> Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 3:59 PM

> Rheumatoid Arthritis

> Subject: Orencia Side effects???

>

>

>

>

>

> I've now had 6 infusions of Orencia and can finally say it does seem to be

> working! YAY!! I'm off my prednisone and am still doing ok...not GREAT but

> definetely ok and am so happy to be off it. I had taken it daily for 2.5yrs.

>

> The weird thing is, Im having a terrible time with canker sores now. I

> usually have at least 1 and sometimes several at a time. I always have one

> and they are big and hurt. I thought it was my 10mg of mtx so I stopped it

> too, didnt help. This really started to be a problem after my 3rd infusion.

> It has to be the orencia. The other weird side effect Im having is vivid

> dreams. Not necessarily scary dreams just weird ones, alot of them which is

> very unusual for me.

>

> Anyonelse?

>

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> No virus found in this message.

> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com

> Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3363 - Release Date: 01/06/11

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>

>

> _____

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> No virus found in this message.

> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com

> Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3365 - Release Date: 01/07/11

>

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A quick Google search makes me wonder if this is a specific product with real controls. I think it is worth further checking before you take the plunge. God bless.http://theblondepharmacist.com/2007/06/25/magic-mouthwash-the-vague-term-for-a-concoction-of-anything/ From: Rheumatoid Arthritis [mailto:Rheumatoid Arthritis ] On Behalf Of i_live_in_slippersSent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 12:40 PMRheumatoid Arthritis Subject: Re: Orencia Side effects (Canker Sores) I just wanted to update that I'm still having a terrible time with canker sores after starting the Orencia but my Dr. prescribed something called " 's Magic Liquid " and it really seems to work lol. From what I can tell it's a mixture the pharmacists puts together consisting of benedryl, malox, lidicane, and tetracycline. You swish it around and spit / or swallow it depending if you have sores in the very back or throat.The Orencia is working nicely other than that...and I've had 6 infusions with my next being this Friday :)>> Of course, you need to check with your doc.s/he might have other ideas.> Salt water rinses helped me, too.> > > > Beyke> > _____ > > From: Rheumatoid Arthritis > [mailto:Rheumatoid Arthritis ] On Behalf Of Beyke> Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 4:48 PM> Rheumatoid Arthritis > Subject: RE: Orencia Side effects???> > > > > > Canker sores are a side effect, but also of MTX, I believe. I take three> prescription strength folic acid tabs a day and it helps.> > I remember vivid dreams in the beginning, but I'm not having them now, about> 2 years later.> > > > > > > > _____ > > From: Rheumatoid Arthritis > [mailto:Rheumatoid Arthritis ] On Behalf Of> i_live_in_slippers> Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 3:59 PM> Rheumatoid Arthritis > Subject: Orencia Side effects???> > > > > > I've now had 6 infusions of Orencia and can finally say it does seem to be> working! YAY!! I'm off my prednisone and am still doing ok...not GREAT but> definetely ok and am so happy to be off it. I had taken it daily for 2.5yrs.> > The weird thing is, Im having a terrible time with canker sores now. I> usually have at least 1 and sometimes several at a time. I always have one> and they are big and hurt. I thought it was my 10mg of mtx so I stopped it> too, didnt help. This really started to be a problem after my 3rd infusion.> It has to be the orencia. The other weird side effect Im having is vivid> dreams. Not necessarily scary dreams just weird ones, alot of them which is> very unusual for me.> > Anyonelse?> > size=1 width= " 100% " noshade color= " #d7a52f " align=center> > > No virus found in this message.> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3363 - Release Date: 01/06/11> > > > _____ > > size=1 width= " 100% " noshade color= " #d7a52f " align=center> > > No virus found in this message.> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3365 - Release Date: 01/07/11>

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I dont know either but Im using it and it's working :) My dr. wrote it like a

normal prescription that I turned into the pharmacy..and it's like a real

prescription label and all that calls it " mary's magic liquid " lol but I did

find it odd that I got no paperwork with it ...no warnings, no ingredients,

nothing. I instantly tasted the malox after taste and could tell there was a

numbing agent but the rest I discovered online..and only assume it's right.

Nontheless it's working :)

> >

> > Of course, you need to check with your doc.s/he might have other ideas.

> > Salt water rinses helped me, too.

> >

> >

> >

> > Beyke

> >

> > _____

> >

> > From: Rheumatoid Arthritis

> <mailto:Rheumatoid Arthritis%40>

> > [mailto:Rheumatoid Arthritis

> <mailto:Rheumatoid Arthritis%40> ] On Behalf Of Beyke

> > Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 4:48 PM

> > Rheumatoid Arthritis

> <mailto:Rheumatoid Arthritis%40>

> > Subject: RE: Orencia Side effects???

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Canker sores are a side effect, but also of MTX, I believe. I take three

> > prescription strength folic acid tabs a day and it helps.

> >

> > I remember vivid dreams in the beginning, but I'm not having them now,

> about

> > 2 years later.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > From: Rheumatoid Arthritis

> <mailto:Rheumatoid Arthritis%40>

> > [mailto:Rheumatoid Arthritis

> <mailto:Rheumatoid Arthritis%40> ] On Behalf Of

> > i_live_in_slippers

> > Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 3:59 PM

> > Rheumatoid Arthritis

> <mailto:Rheumatoid Arthritis%40>

> > Subject: Orencia Side effects???

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > I've now had 6 infusions of Orencia and can finally say it does seem to be

> > working! YAY!! I'm off my prednisone and am still doing ok...not GREAT but

> > definetely ok and am so happy to be off it. I had taken it daily for

> 2.5yrs.

> >

> > The weird thing is, Im having a terrible time with canker sores now. I

> > usually have at least 1 and sometimes several at a time. I always have one

> > and they are big and hurt. I thought it was my 10mg of mtx so I stopped it

> > too, didnt help. This really started to be a problem after my 3rd

> infusion.

> > It has to be the orencia. The other weird side effect Im having is vivid

> > dreams. Not necessarily scary dreams just weird ones, alot of them which

> is

> > very unusual for me.

> >

> > Anyonelse?

> >

> > size=1 width= " 100% " noshade color= " #d7a52f " align=center>

> >

> > No virus found in this message.

> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com

> > Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3363 - Release Date: 01/06/11

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > size=1 width= " 100% " noshade color= " #d7a52f " align=center>

> >

> > No virus found in this message.

> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com

> > Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3365 - Release Date: 01/07/11

> >

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I just called my pharmacy to actually ask what's in it and was told that it's a

mixture presciption tailored by the writing doctors requests. I was told it

usually always has benedryl, hydrocortisone, nystatin, tetracycline, she said

then sometimes it has malox and a few others depending how the dr. writes it.

She said it's fine to use and supposidly really works :)So far seems to be

true:)

> > >

> > > Of course, you need to check with your doc.s/he might have other ideas.

> > > Salt water rinses helped me, too.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Beyke

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > From: Rheumatoid Arthritis

> > <mailto:Rheumatoid Arthritis%40>

> > > [mailto:Rheumatoid Arthritis

> > <mailto:Rheumatoid Arthritis%40> ] On Behalf Of Beyke

> > > Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 4:48 PM

> > > Rheumatoid Arthritis

> > <mailto:Rheumatoid Arthritis%40>

> > > Subject: RE: Orencia Side effects???

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Canker sores are a side effect, but also of MTX, I believe. I take three

> > > prescription strength folic acid tabs a day and it helps.

> > >

> > > I remember vivid dreams in the beginning, but I'm not having them now,

> > about

> > > 2 years later.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > From: Rheumatoid Arthritis

> > <mailto:Rheumatoid Arthritis%40>

> > > [mailto:Rheumatoid Arthritis

> > <mailto:Rheumatoid Arthritis%40> ] On Behalf Of

> > > i_live_in_slippers

> > > Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 3:59 PM

> > > Rheumatoid Arthritis

> > <mailto:Rheumatoid Arthritis%40>

> > > Subject: Orencia Side effects???

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I've now had 6 infusions of Orencia and can finally say it does seem to be

> > > working! YAY!! I'm off my prednisone and am still doing ok...not GREAT but

> > > definetely ok and am so happy to be off it. I had taken it daily for

> > 2.5yrs.

> > >

> > > The weird thing is, Im having a terrible time with canker sores now. I

> > > usually have at least 1 and sometimes several at a time. I always have one

> > > and they are big and hurt. I thought it was my 10mg of mtx so I stopped it

> > > too, didnt help. This really started to be a problem after my 3rd

> > infusion.

> > > It has to be the orencia. The other weird side effect Im having is vivid

> > > dreams. Not necessarily scary dreams just weird ones, alot of them which

> > is

> > > very unusual for me.

> > >

> > > Anyonelse?

> > >

> > > size=1 width= " 100% " noshade color= " #d7a52f " align=center>

> > >

> > > No virus found in this message.

> > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com

> > > Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3363 - Release Date: 01/06/11

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > size=1 width= " 100% " noshade color= " #d7a52f " align=center>

> > >

> > > No virus found in this message.

> > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com

> > > Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3365 - Release Date: 01/07/11

> > >

> >

>

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