Fevers

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Following my implant/explant, I had fevers for 6 months. I had bad anemia too. In my case I don't know if it was implant related because I had my inplants for less than 1 month. All I know is I had fevers and one cold after the other--and lots of hair loss too--yikes!

LMnaturalbeauty38 <naturalbeauty38@...> wrote:

Are the fevers your describing low grade temps or high? Fevers are a sign that your body is fighting something. The tests you mention about increased WBC and RBC counts are indicative of something going on infection wise,however those tests don't involve cultures necessarily, so a culture on the substance that was found in your body should have been performed. I would love to know more about your situation, like who did the surgery, and was it enbloc, with total capsulectomy etc. Also where are the implants now? Did they get analyzed? Are they being held somewhere in a proper storage container so that they can be further tested or did you take them home or did they get destroyed or what exactly did happen to them?I would in the meantime, eat lots of raw garlic to fight off any virul or fungal issues, and seek out a Dr willing to do

further testing on your blood to see if your carrying some kind of virus or infection, then see about the possibility of antibiotic therapy. Possibly the long term type that several women on this site have been on.These are just a few ideas thrown out to help but I would need more information to give better advice.What were/are your other symptoms and have any of them improved since explant? Did you have any neurological stuff wrong with you? dizzyiness etc?keep us informed.We careHugs

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Thank you for the e-mail regarding fevers. I am new to this site. My fever's range from 99.2-101.6, the fever increases with an activity and doesn't go down with aspirin. I am not sure if the explanting doctor did a total capsulectomy, I am in the process of finding out. I had textured McGhan implants. The explanting doctor sent my implant to the lab to be analyzed. He told my husband right after the surgery that I had an infection. I never saw the implants nor did they save them. When I got the results of lab, it showed lots of WBC and RBC in my implants; which means infection but on the gram stain culture test it showed no growth or bacteria, so the doctors tune totally changed. He normally would treat someone with Antibiotics for 6 weeks but because it didn't grow anything he only treated me with them for ten days. It would seam to me that if a cheesy white substance is coming out something is really wrong. After the surgery when I had the drainage tubes in the substance was in the drainage ball sticking to the sides. I have begged my doctors to treat me with antibiotics for 6 weeks but they won't do it. My WBC has ranged from 10.5-19 thousand, my neutrophils and monocytes are high my total complement is low, not C3 or C4 which would indicate Lupus but the total and my Bun is low.

Thank you,

Re: Fevers

Following my implant/explant, I had fevers for 6 months. I had bad anemia too. In my case I don't know if it was implant related because I had my inplants for less than 1 month. All I know is I had fevers and one cold after the other--and lots of hair loss too--yikes!

LMnaturalbeauty38 <naturalbeauty38@...> wrote:

Are the fevers your describing low grade temps or high? Fevers are a sign that your body is fighting something. The tests you mention about increased WBC and RBC counts are indicative of something going on infection wise,however those tests don't involve cultures necessarily, so a culture on the substance that was found in your body should have been performed. I would love to know more about your situation, like who did the surgery, and was it enbloc, with total capsulectomy etc. Also where are the implants now? Did they get analyzed? Are they being held somewhere in a proper storage container so that they can be further tested or did you take them home or did they get destroyed or what exactly did happen to them?I would in the meantime, eat lots of raw garlic to fight off any virul or fungal issues, and seek out a Dr willing to do further testing on your blood to see if your carrying some kind of virus or infection, then see about the possibility of antibiotic therapy. Possibly the long term type that several women on this site have been on.These are just a few ideas thrown out to help but I would need more information to give better advice.What were/are your other symptoms and have any of them improved since explant? Did you have any neurological stuff wrong with you? dizzyiness etc?keep us informed.We careHugs

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That was just how my fevers were. I recommend detoxing. Avoid

drugs. Often, in the long run, they make you worse.

Lynda

At 09:29 AM 6/14/2004, you wrote:

>Thank you for the e-mail regarding fevers. I am new to this site. My

>fever's range from 99.2-101.6, the fever increases with an activity and

>doesn't go down with aspirin. I am not sure if the explanting doctor did a

>total capsulectomy, I am in the process of finding out. I had textured

>McGhan implants. The explanting doctor sent my implant to the lab to be

>analyzed. He told my husband right after the surgery that I had an

>infection. I never saw the implants nor did they save them. When I got

>the results of lab, it showed lots of WBC and RBC in my implants; which

>means infection but on the gram stain culture test it showed no growth or

>bacteria, so the doctors tune totally changed. He normally would treat

>someone with Antibiotics for 6 weeks but because it didn't grow anything

>he only treated me with them for ten days. It would seam to me that if a

>cheesy white substance is coming out something is really wrong. After the

>surgery when I had the drainage tubes in the substance was in the drainage

>ball sticking to the sides. I have begged my doctors to treat me with

>antibiotics for 6 weeks but they won't do it. My WBC has ranged from

>10.5-19 thousand, my neutrophils and monocytes are high my total

>complement is low, not C3 or C4 which would indicate Lupus but the total

>and my Bun is low.

>

>Thank you,

>

> Re: Fevers

>

>Following my implant/explant, I had fevers for 6 months. I had bad anemia

>too. In my case I don't know if it was implant related because I had my

>inplants for less than 1 month. All I know is I had fevers and one cold

>after the other--and lots of hair loss too--yikes!

>LM

>

>naturalbeauty38

><<mailto:naturalbeauty38@...>naturalbeauty38@...> wrote:

>Are the fevers your describing low grade temps or high? Fevers are a

>sign that your body is fighting something. The tests you mention

>about increased WBC and RBC counts are indicative of something going

>on infection wise,however those tests don't involve cultures

>necessarily, so a culture on the substance that was found in your

>body should have been performed. I would love to know more about your

>situation, like who did the surgery, and was it enbloc, with total

>capsulectomy etc. Also where are the implants now? Did they get

>analyzed? Are they being held somewhere in a proper storage container

>so that they can be further tested or did you take them home or did

>they get destroyed or what exactly did happen to them?

>I would in the meantime, eat lots of raw garlic to fight off any

>virul or fungal issues, and seek out a Dr willing to do further

>testing on your blood to see if your carrying some kind of virus or

>infection, then see about the possibility of antibiotic therapy.

>Possibly the long term type that several women on this site have been

>on.

>These are just a few ideas thrown out to help but I would need more

>information to give better advice.

>What were/are your other symptoms and have any of them improved since

>explant? Did you have any neurological stuff wrong with you?

>dizzyiness etc?

>keep us informed.

>We care

>Hugs

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi !

You're welcome.

Have you seen a rheumatologist? When were you explanted? I hope you feel better soon.

I'm glad you came aboard and joined us. Take care.

LM <Alli@...> wrote:

Thank you for the e-mail regarding fevers. I am new to this site. My fever's range from 99.2-101.6, the fever increases with an activity and doesn't go down with aspirin. I am not sure if the explanting doctor did a total capsulectomy, I am in the process of finding out. I had textured McGhan implants. The explanting doctor sent my implant to the lab to be analyzed. He told my husband right after the surgery that I had an infection. I never saw the implants nor did they save them. When I got the results of lab, it showed lots of WBC and RBC in my implants; which means infection but on the gram stain culture test it showed no growth or bacteria, so the doctors tune totally changed. He normally would treat someone with Antibiotics for 6 weeks but because it didn't grow anything he only treated me with them for ten days. It would seam to me that if a cheesy white substance is coming out something is really wrong. After the surgery

when I had the drainage tubes in the substance was in the drainage ball sticking to the sides. I have begged my doctors to treat me with antibiotics for 6 weeks but they won't do it. My WBC has ranged from 10.5-19 thousand, my neutrophils and monocytes are high my total complement is low, not C3 or C4 which would indicate Lupus but the total and my Bun is low.

Thank you,

Re: Fevers

Following my implant/explant, I had fevers for 6 months. I had bad anemia too. In my case I don't know if it was implant related because I had my inplants for less than 1 month. All I know is I had fevers and one cold after the other--and lots of hair loss too--yikes!

LMnaturalbeauty38 <naturalbeauty38@...> wrote:

Are the fevers your describing low grade temps or high? Fevers are a sign that your body is fighting something. The tests you mention about increased WBC and RBC counts are indicative of something going on infection wise,however those tests don't involve cultures necessarily, so a culture on the substance that was found in your body should have been performed. I would love to know more about your situation, like who did the surgery, and was it enbloc, with total capsulectomy etc. Also where are the implants now? Did they get analyzed? Are they being held somewhere in a proper storage container so that they can be further tested or did you take them home or did they get destroyed or what exactly did happen to them?I would in the meantime, eat lots of raw garlic to fight off any virul or fungal issues, and seek out a Dr willing to do

further testing on your blood to see if your carrying some kind of virus or infection, then see about the possibility of antibiotic therapy. Possibly the long term type that several women on this site have been on.These are just a few ideas thrown out to help but I would need more information to give better advice.What were/are your other symptoms and have any of them improved since explant? Did you have any neurological stuff wrong with you? dizzyiness etc?keep us informed.We careHugs

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LM

I have seen a Rheumatlogist. They thought maybe Lupus, I tired all the Med's they gave me but it didn't help. Most of my joint pain has gone away since I was explanted in November 2003.

thanks,

Re: Fevers

Following my implant/explant, I had fevers for 6 months. I had bad anemia too. In my case I don't know if it was implant related because I had my inplants for less than 1 month. All I know is I had fevers and one cold after the other--and lots of hair loss too--yikes!

LMnaturalbeauty38 <naturalbeauty38@...> wrote:

Are the fevers your describing low grade temps or high? Fevers are a sign that your body is fighting something. The tests you mention about increased WBC and RBC counts are indicative of something going on infection wise,however those tests don't involve cultures necessarily, so a culture on the substance that was found in your body should have been performed. I would love to know more about your situation, like who did the surgery, and was it enbloc, with total capsulectomy etc. Also where are the implants now? Did they get analyzed? Are they being held somewhere in a proper storage container so that they can be further tested or did you take them home or did they get destroyed or what exactly did happen to them?I would in the meantime, eat lots of raw garlic to fight off any virul or fungal issues, and seek out a Dr willing to do further testing on your blood to see if your carrying some kind of virus or infection, then see about the possibility of antibiotic therapy. Possibly the long term type that several women on this site have been on.These are just a few ideas thrown out to help but I would need more information to give better advice.What were/are your other symptoms and have any of them improved since explant? Did you have any neurological stuff wrong with you? dizzyiness etc?keep us informed.We careHugs

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:

Hi. I'm glad you don't have lupus and most of your joint pain is gone--very good news. recovered fairly quickly too.

Take Care,

LM <Alli@...> wrote:

LM

I have seen a Rheumatlogist. They thought maybe Lupus, I tired all the Med's they gave me but it didn't help. Most of my joint pain has gone away since I was explanted in November 2003.

thanks,

Re: Fevers

Following my implant/explant, I had fevers for 6 months. I had bad anemia too. In my case I don't know if it was implant related because I had my inplants for less than 1 month. All I know is I had fevers and one cold after the other--and lots of hair loss too--yikes!

LMnaturalbeauty38 <naturalbeauty38@...> wrote:

Are the fevers your describing low grade temps or high? Fevers are a sign that your body is fighting something. The tests you mention about increased WBC and RBC counts are indicative of something going on infection wise,however those tests don't involve cultures necessarily, so a culture on the substance that was found in your body should have been performed. I would love to know more about your situation, like who did the surgery, and was it enbloc, with total capsulectomy etc. Also where are the implants now? Did they get analyzed? Are they being held somewhere in a proper storage container so that they can be further tested or did you take them home or did they get destroyed or what exactly did happen to them?I would in the meantime, eat lots of raw garlic to fight off any virul or fungal issues, and seek out a Dr willing to do

further testing on your blood to see if your carrying some kind of virus or infection, then see about the possibility of antibiotic therapy. Possibly the long term type that several women on this site have been on.These are just a few ideas thrown out to help but I would need more information to give better advice.What were/are your other symptoms and have any of them improved since explant? Did you have any neurological stuff wrong with you? dizzyiness etc?keep us informed.We careHugs

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Very interesting. My dermo said my skin was HOT when I saw her a week ago.

I have Fibro as well as PA, and sometimes I feel like I have a fever when I am

flaring. Don't have a thermometer that I can read, but I feel it inside. Do any

of you notice raised BLOOD PRESSURE when you are in flares?

LeAnn in OK

P sine 1985, PA since 1999, dxed with Fibro 2005

[Guest guest]

Local inflammatory infections can be assisted using Far Infrared heat. Devices such as the TDP lamps or IR saunas can help clear out an infection by raising the temperature of the tissues. A medical friend has cleared up a low level chronic lung pneumonia using a chiropractor's short wave diathermy machine. It took only one treatment to eliminate the infection that had lingered for several months that was not responding well to antibiotic treatment.

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-- fevers

Doctors are just now learning that fevers have a purpose in the immune

system?

Is that because they want to create a new drug as they describe

"fever-based therapies might be refined to improve existing treatments for

infections".

So infection starts locally, and then the hypothalamus gets the message and

raises the temperature, probably using the thyroid gland?

http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn10443 & feedId=online-news_rss091

Doctors already know that bacteria and viruses thrive best at body

temperature, so fevers disrupt their ability to multiply. Now it has been

found that fevers help the body’s immune system identify an infection and

raise an army of white blood cells (lymphocytes) against it.

Fever fashion

The team is now investigating how to fine-tune fever and deploy it in

treatment. Fevers usually begin with local inflammation, which makes

infected tissue hotter. Signalling chemicals called cytokines are released

from the site of inflammation into the bloodstream and reach the

hypothalamus in the brain, which acts as the body’s temperature gauge.

If the infection escalates, the hypothalamus can raise the temperature of

the entire body, which then activates the accelerated surveillance and

response system in the lymph nodes identified by the research team.

says that although it fell out of fashion with the development of

modern medicine, the idea of treating disease with heat has a long history:

“Hippocrates used to heat patients with cancer,” she says. And a century ago

the physician Coley discovered a cocktail of bacteria, dubbed

“Coley’s toxins”, which appeared to combat cancer by producing a fever.

cautions against letting fevers run riot, however, as they can cause

fits or even kill by overheating organs such as the liver and brain. But she

is hopeful that fever-based therapies might be refined to improve existing

treatments for infections, auto-immune diseases and cancer.

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Great info. This is specifically why I never give fever reducers to my

children, unless they run a temp over 103 (hasn't happened yet). I believe

over 106 is dangerous.

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> Doctors are just now learning that fevers have a purpose in the immune

> system?

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It's been my experience with all the medical problems that my girls have had, that Asian doctors are well aware of this.  I've had several doctors back me up on my philosophy of not using fever reducing agents.  Nurses OTOH are usually totally clueless about this and will pester one to no end to use them, especially if you're a patient in the hospital.  I always make sure when my daughter has to be admitted that she is not to be given Tylenol, etc., but I have to stay with her to get that enforced.  LinnOn Nov 24, 2006, at 12:11 PM, Ives wrote:Great info. This is specifically why I never give fever reducers to my children, unless they run a temp over 103 (hasn't happened yet). I believe over 106 is dangerous.. 

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I know certain pathogens can't thrive BELOW body temp as well...

Perhaps our bodies are smart enough to tweak it down when it knows

there is something going on...those of us who run a little colder than

others may have something going on we don't know about?

[Guest guest]

>From: Aprilcupcake@...

>I know certain pathogens can't thrive BELOW body temp as well...

>Perhaps our bodies are smart enough to tweak it down when it knows

>there is something going on...those of us who run a little colder than

>others may have something going on we don't know about?

I've never heard that concept before. Usually, when one has a low body temp

it means low thyroid, low adrenals, or anemia.

Iodine or thyroid meds raise body temp -

http://www.mall-net.com/mcs/coldbody.html

" Supplemental Iodine has cured some forms of low body temperature. But

again, not all. "

Before thyroid treatment, my wife didn't even have elevated temp for

pneumonia.

She has noticed that she is more likely to have a fever if she takes Vitamin

C, as it helps with the immune system. Before, she started taking Vitamin C

I asked our thyroid doc to check our Vitamin C levels on his blood test.

Her Vitamin C came to -0-, and mine barely registered. (I ate more Vitamin

C foods than she did, I was surprised mine was so low, but I expected hers.)

Anyway, the white blood cells need Vitamin C -

http://www.healingdaily.com/detoxification-diet/sugar.htm

" We have known this for decades. It was only in the 1970's that researchers

found out that vitamin C was needed by white blood cells so that they could

phagocytize viruses and bacteria. White blood cells require a 50 times

higher concentration inside the cell as outside so they have to accumulate

vitamin C.

There is something called a " phagocytic index " which tells you how rapidly a

particular macrophage or lymphocyte can gobble up a virus, bacteria, or

cancer cell. It was in the 1970's that Linus ing realized that white

blood cells need a high dose of vitamin C and that is when he came up with

his theory that you need high doses of vitamin C icon to combat the common

cold. "

From the same website, this is why you should avoid sugar when sick -

" We know that glucose and vitamin C have similar chemical structures, so

what happens when the sugar levels go up? They compete for one another upon

entering the cells. And the thing that mediates the entry of glucose into

the cells is the same thing that mediates the entry of vitamin C into the

cells. If there is more glucose around, there is going to be less vitamin C

allowed into the cell. It doesn't take much: a blood sugar value of 120

reduces the phagocytic index by 75%. So when you eat sugar, think of your

immune system slowing down to a crawl. "

I'm more inclined to believe that one with low body temp has problems.

This is an interesting page on low body temp -

http://www.mall-net.com/mcs/coldbody.html

" There are many problems which will cause chronic low body temperature, from

post traumatic stress syndrome to warts, from Candida Albecans to

Hashimoto's Thyroiditis. What will help you, depends upon the cause and the

state of your body. In the long run, the mind tends to follow the body. Heal

and nurture the body properly, and the mind will begin to sparkle again. "

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Joy,

I seem to run low grade fever off and on. It IS a symptom of RA.

in Texas

Joy <jhoorm01@...> wrote:

Do you all run fevers everyday? I know when I go to the rheumie

she take my temp all the time. Today I woke up with a 99.9 and

feel terrible and achy. It could be my son passing the flu on to me

even though I did have the flu shot.

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Joy, Don't know if this helps or not, but my husband has low grade fevers

often. When he has the fevers is when he feels the worst. This has been

going on for over a year now.

[Guest guest]

Jeannie, it's cindy, RA might start with chills???? my mother had it

bad her whole life and if i pick my brian and remember back i think i

read it can... plus any kind of joint leg... neck thing can do that

too,or even lumbar trouble. but you said there was a fever. but i

think RA can do that.cindy

>

> Hi everyone,

> I was wondering if anyone has bouts of chills and feeling like they

have a fever? My husband has a lot going on in his body with mainly

leg pain, and in his shins. They've said he has some torn ligaments

in his shins, gave him exercises, and an anti-inflammatory. He also

has some disk degerneration in his back. According to my pain dr.,

that's not a sign of any inflammation, the spot that hurts would be

very warm, but I remember when I was first being diagnosed with

arthritis, I had those chills and hot flashes too(not menopause)!Any

ideas? He doesn't register any fever on the thermometer. I've had 3

episodes in less than 2 weeks of 101 degree temp.,am clueless on that

too. I had flu shot, my GP said my body was fighting off infections

by giving me a fever. This is not the time of year to be feeling like

this, not like any part of the year is better, but I'm going to spend

Xmas in Seattle, around my grand-babies, and they don't need to catch

anything. I'm sick and tired of

> being sick and tired . Hubby is verrry grouchy, you'd think he'd

be more compassionate in that he has some of the same pain. I hope

he's having a mid-life crisis! Does anyone know right off hand if

Rheumotoid Arthritis involves fevers? I've never been tested for it,

just know I have Osteo-Arthritis amongst other things. Thanks for any

help or advice.

> Jeannie

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I would call him right away. I think 1 month is too long.

rmg

[ ] Fevers

Hi

I have a question about fevers. How long do you wait when you have a

fever to call the Dr ? My daughter is being seen by Dr J. and he

changed her meds from Zithromax(500mg) and Omnicef to Minocycline

(100mg)on Nov. 16. She is still running fevers every day. The fever

usually gets up to 99.6 with a bad headache. She is unable to do

anything because she feels so bad. I was going to wait a month before I

called the Dr. J. office but I thought I would ask here first.

Thanks Tina

[Guest guest]

I would be calling in to the doctors after three or four days of

that. Maybe a short break or antibiotic change can be recommended

over the phone. Call the doctor, that is what he is there for.

Take care,

Rich (skiweasel7)

>

> I would call him right away. I think 1 month is too long.

> rmg

>

>

> [ ] Fevers

>

> Hi

> I have a question about fevers. How long do you wait when you have a

> fever to call the Dr ? My daughter is being seen by Dr J. and he

> changed her meds from Zithromax(500mg) and Omnicef to Minocycline

> (100mg)on Nov. 16. She is still running fevers every day. The fever

> usually gets up to 99.6 with a bad headache. She is unable to do

> anything because she feels so bad. I was going to wait a month

before I

> called the Dr. J. office but I thought I would ask here first.

> Thanks Tina

>

>

[Guest guest]

I agree -- I would call right away- and I recall that minocycline is one of

those that you want to watch out for headaches, especially headaches in the

morning - definitely call right away. Good luck-

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I started taking Prednisone. It was everyday for 7 days and then do one day on and one day off. As soon as I did the one day off my fever spiked to 103.6. Is that normal. With autoimmune diseases do we get fevers all the time. It seems that in the last 4 months I have had so many fevers. The doctor said the immune suppresant that I have been on for 1 1/2 years isn't doing any good anymore. Elaine

[Guest guest]

fevers come from infections... you should be killing off sources of

infection by zapping, so what could be going on ???

> Fevers

>

> Darn! I had a fever last month, March 16th and 17th when I

> posted the following message... so I had to back off and now

> I have built up to zapping 2 hours again but the fever is

> back! It was almost 103 on March 16th and, today, I'm at

> 101.6 so back to square one I guess.

>