Guest guest Posted July 14, 2001 Report Share Posted July 14, 2001 Di, The mtx depletes the folic acid in your body which is why it is given w/mtx. You would notice your hair and nails for sure w/out the folic acid. I've never taken celebrex so can't help you there. Nanc Dianne Ohlmus wrote: > Hi everyone, > Have read that Folic acid is recommended for those who take MTX. What > does > it do? > Also I am just on Celebrex and have been feeling ghastly on it. My > teeth > have been chipping and legs, neck,shoulders and lower back ache. Is > this > from the Celebrex or is it the PA? This disease is so confusing! > Di > Canberra. Australia. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2001 Report Share Posted July 14, 2001 Folic Acid with the MTX is to protect your stomach from deteriorating. You should never take MTX without it. If your MD doesn't know this, get another MD. I couldn't tolerate Celebrex either. After a few months I just switched to Viox. It's basically the same type of drug, a 2 inhibitor, but I have fewer side effects ( heartburn especially) on it. The problems you are describing may be from the MTX. I couldn't tolerate it. They don't tell you that 75% of patients cannot tolerate the stuff after 3 months, even when injected. MTX is a chemotherapy drug and very toxic. Read the prescription package insert. Ronnie E. [ ] re Folic acid Hi everyone, Have read that Folic acid is recommended for those who take MTX. What does it do? Also I am just on Celebrex and have been feeling ghastly on it. My teeth have been chipping and legs, neck,shoulders and lower back ache. Is this from the Celebrex or is it the PA? This disease is so confusing! Di Canberra. Australia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2001 Report Share Posted July 14, 2001 Thanks for your reply. Yes my hair has been falling out and my nails are splitting and big toenails lifting. Even though I am not having MTX would you recommend Folic Acid because of these symptoms? Di At 14:30 14/07/2001 -0400, you wrote: >Di, > >The mtx depletes the folic acid in your body which is why it is given >w/mtx. You would notice your hair and nails for sure w/out the folic >acid. > >I've never taken celebrex so can't help you there. > >Nanc > > > >Dianne Ohlmus wrote: > > > Hi everyone, > > Have read that Folic acid is recommended for those who take MTX. What > > does > > it do? > > Also I am just on Celebrex and have been feeling ghastly on it. My > > teeth > > have been chipping and legs, neck,shoulders and lower back ache. Is > > this > > from the Celebrex or is it the PA? This disease is so confusing! > > Di > > Canberra. Australia. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2001 Report Share Posted July 15, 2001 Dianne, I'd never play Dr. here so I suggest you check w/him first. Folic acid can be bought off the shelf. Folic acid would more than likely help your hair loss and nails. I'd just ask physician about amounts and should you have an Rx for what dosage you should take. I take a Rx and it is very inexpensive. Nanc Dianne Ohlmus wrote: > Thanks for your reply. Yes my hair has been falling out and my nails > are > splitting and big toenails lifting. > Even though I am not having MTX would you recommend Folic Acid because > of > these symptoms? > > Di > > > At 14:30 14/07/2001 -0400, you wrote: > >Di, > > > >The mtx depletes the folic acid in your body which is why it is given > > >w/mtx. You would notice your hair and nails for sure w/out the folic > > >acid. > > > >I've never taken celebrex so can't help you there. > > > >Nanc > > > > > > > >Dianne Ohlmus wrote: > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > Have read that Folic acid is recommended for those who take MTX. > What > > > does > > > it do? > > > Also I am just on Celebrex and have been feeling ghastly on it. My > > > > teeth > > > have been chipping and legs, neck,shoulders and lower back ache. > Is > > > this > > > from the Celebrex or is it the PA? This disease is so confusing! > > > Di > > > Canberra. Australia. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2001 Report Share Posted July 16, 2001 In a message dated 07/14/2001 5:08:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ronevans@... writes: << They don't tell you that 75% of patients cannot tolerate the stuff after 3 months, even when injected. MTX is a chemotherapy drug and very toxic. Read the prescription package insert. >> Ronnie - I agree wholeheartedly that's it's a potent and potentially dangerous drug. And we should read inserts, but My God!, we'd never take another drug if all those things in the inserts happened to all of us. Thank goodness most side effects are relatively rare. I don't know if I agree with the 75% being unable to tolerate after 3 months. I'd be interested to know where this statistic comes from. Also, our dose is far lower than a chemo patient, so maybe they were including chemo patients in that study. I think a lot of us on here have been on MTX for years. I have been on over 2 years and I have a lot of drug sensitivities. Yes, it upsets my stomach, but I've learned to deal with it. I think some drugs take time to not only work, but to be able to tolerate as well, and for me, it took a few months to adjust to MTX. The pills, I couldn't handle, but injections were tolerable. As always, everyone is different, and MTX is a personal decision all of us must make. Just my 2 cents - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2001 Report Share Posted July 16, 2001 In a message dated 07/14/2001 11:11:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ohlmus@... writes: << Yes my hair has been falling out and my nails are splitting and big toenails lifting. Even though I am not having MTX >> Di - it seems to me that the nails are probably related to P and perhaps the hair too if your scalp is very bad. But if not, you really need to see a doctor. Thinning hair can be a sign of other problems such as thyroid, or many other things. I don't think that hair falling out is necessarily a result of PA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2003 Report Share Posted March 26, 2003 If your pain is " nerve pain " can a neurologist or neurosurgeon check to see if your deteriorating condition could be presssing on a nerve root.....that pain is awful, awful...but it can be helped greatly with minimal back surgery to remove the spur that is encroaching on the nerve root. You may still have some pain for several months even after surgery because the nerve takes time to calm down. Best wishes!!! Sylvia " w.fitzgibbon " <w.fitzgibbon@...> wrote:Hi everyone, I visited my rheumy yesterday still wont put me on folic acid .I had bad results on blood work so he may change meds also thinks i have ankylosing spondylitis or something else he is waiting for test results if he doesent ease pain i will go crazy. Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2003 Report Share Posted March 27, 2003 Hi everyone, I visited my rheumy yesterday still wont put me on folic acid .I had bad results on blood work so he may change meds also thinks i have ankylosing spondylitis or something else he is waiting for test results if he doesent ease pain i will go crazy. , Any supermarket or vitamin outlet has folic acid. I take only 1 mg per day. Find the equivalent dosage at a local store. Also, I have been on MTX for 7 or 8 months with absolutely no relief or side effects and I find it actually a little bit more effective when I do not use Folic Acid, especially on my MTX dosage day. Good luck. I see my rheumy tomorrow and hope to be on Enbrel when I leave! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 I would really like to see some " real " proof of this statement. My Rheumy stated very clearly that folic acid is taken because meth affects the absorption of folic acid. It does not work the other way, ie. that folic acid affects the absorption of meth. He recommended that I take 5mg every day. He is a very highly regarded rheumy, and not just by me. btw..Not that I want to start an argument..I am just very interested about this one. Dave H [Editor's Note: I specifically asked my rheumy about this some time ago (he's the head of rheumatology at a major NYC teaching hospital) and he said that the post below was the old way of thinking based on the quantity of MTX and folic acid involved in cancer treatments. The quantities involved in the treatment of PA are so small in comparison that studies repeatedly have shown that there is no reason NOT to take folic acid on the day you take MTX. Ergo, my doctor agrees with yours. When we have had this discussion in earlier threads, I didn't really see evidence that " most " docs recommend not taking folic acid on MTX day. Kathy F.] [ ] Re Folic Acid It stops the action of the methotrexate That is why most docs will tell you to skip it on the day of your shot/pills. There is quite a bit of discussion in the archives of the list about this if you are further interested. S group founder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 Hi , The reason you aren't supposed to take folic acid on the same day as methotrexate is that it reduces the effectiveness of the drug in your system.( That's what my RA doc told me). It's okay to take the folic acid the next day though. Misty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 I agree with Misty in part because Folic Acid does reduce the effectiveness of Methotrexate, but this effect is so small and Methotrexate is not very expensive that most doctors in the US seem to prescribe Folic Acid every day. The dose of Methotrexate is an arbitrary amount depending on patient reaction so I take Folic Acid daily to avoid the side effects. God bless. From: Rheumatoid Arthritis [mailto:Rheumatoid Arthritis ] On Behalf Of misty thornton Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 3:31 PM Rheumatoid Arthritis Subject: Re Folic acid Hi , The reason you aren't supposed to take folic acid on the same day as methotrexate is that it reduces the effectiveness of the drug in your system.( That's what my RA doc told me). It's okay to take the folic acid the next day though. Misty No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.11.58/2061 - Release Date: 04/16/09 08:12:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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