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thanks grammy b. a beautiful reply, with a lot of hope. wishing you well.

g.g.

Grammi B <grammi_love@...> wrote:

How I wish I could promise you that everything will soon get better. I can't

promise that, as we just don't know. But, there is strength in this

place...friends leaning upon each other...where neither gender nor age make any

difference in the way that love and encouragement is shared. Please hold on,

and walk this journey with us...it is not easy, but we can, perhaps, make it

just a little easier, helping you to know that you are absolutely not alone.

Lovingly...

Tess in Oregon

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Many Thanks Gretchen for your email...

Take Care

Joana

>

> Jo and others,

>

> Depression is real. I know, I've been there. No matter what

> the " cause " , I hope you will understand that there are some very

> helpful medications to get you through the rough times. That is

what

> they are for.

>

> Depression for me was mostly brought on by situations I could not

> change, and I was not able to accept the situation.

>

> But then I have had " clinical depressions " where there was no

> specific 'situation' to account for. At these times, not only did

I

> have a complete blood count done, but from that my Internist

> discovered I was low in B vitamins and also my thyroid was out of

> whack.

>

> Secondly, you're at a 'stage' in life where menopause may be

playing

> a factor, hormonal changes also cause wicked mood swings. The year

my

> mother was so ill, I swear even I couldn't keep up with my own

mood

> swings. lol.

>

> Some supplements may cause medications to be inneffective, so if

you

> do start an anti-depressant medication, you may want to have your

> chemist/pharmacist cross-check what supplements you take along

with

> the depression medication. I learned that Valerian, Kava, and St.

> 's Wort cause depression medications to work less.

>

> Either or mentioned being good to yourself. I

> wholeheartedly support this. If it is still grey and rainy in

London,

> go out and find the brightest bunch of flowers you can afford and

uy

> them! Even if it is not raining, do it! Flowers are a real upper,

at

> least for me - even in a depression.

>

> Also, while in a depression, try to focus only on what's right in

> front of you to do. Do not plan your whole life out - it is too

easy

> to fall deeper into 'stinking thinking'.

>

> Your 3 months in Brazil were good for you, seeing family, doctors,

> speaking the language. Now, back in London, give yourself time to

re-

> orient yourself to your 'neighborhood'. Remember, you've lived

there

> 25 years!

>

> While I support your work at the gym, you may want to take it

easier

> with your workouts, just temporarily. Your body needs time to

adjust

> also. Maybe still go as often, just cut your workout in 1/2.

You'll

> still get good effects, and your body can know it can take it a

bit

> easier. If I can find my " Just for Today " inspiration, I'll post

it.

> Perhaps following this may help.

>

> Finally, know that even though you cannot see the light at the end

of

> the tunnel now, it IS there!

>

> ~ Gretchen

>

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Dear Spy,

Thanks for your email.

Yes, I am doing ok, always fighting those blues feeling inside

myself.

I do have wonderful friends here, thanks God! They are here,come to

see me, I can phone them , I can talk a bit and and those things is

a real blessing.

I also have you Guys out there, another blessing for me Spy.

It is just a moment and everything in this world pass, moving on and

nothing last forever!

I am here Spy, feel free when you feel like email me too.

Have a Great Week and Take Care Always!

Joana in London

>

> Joana, I do understand and hear you loud and clear. Leaving your

> family and go back to London will take time for you to re adjust,

but

> there is no reason for you to suffer with depression and be so

> unhappy. If medication will help you should seek help to make you

feel

> better.

>

> Do you have any friends around who can help you in some way?

>

> Of course we are all here for one onother.

>

> Spy

>

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Joana,

I have gotten behind on reading, but wanted to respond to your email. I too have

suffered on and off on depression, usually situational. Sometimes it was due to

not being able to keep up with everyone and the emotions that go along with the

progression of CMT. Sometimes due to lonliness but most of the time it was

because my mind would start racing and I would start freaking out about the

future (financial and emotional). NO matter what i tried, and believe me i know

a lot about psychology, i could not stop my mind from racing. would wake up in

the middle of the night with my heart racing. This would start a whole process

of not eating, not sleeping and so on. Once i would get to that stage, it was

very difficult to think rationally because i was weak and tired. I would push

myself. Always got up, dressed, put makeup on and would go out. My mind was so

warped that i assumed everyone was better off than me.

I don't mean to ramble on about myself, except to let you know i know where you

are and the great thing is NOTHING is forever. How you feel today is not a

reflection on how you will feel tomorrow. If you have to go on medication to get

thorough this time, than do it. Cymbalta was a good choice for me due to its

lack of side effects, quick acting and it is used to help with nerve pain. I

used to try to fight the depression and refused to go on medication and it

always backfired on me. Find a group or a good counselor so they can give you

some tools to get through the day to day and tomorrow will be better, i promise!

My thoughts are with you.

Jackie

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Joanna and Jackie,

This letter is like reading my life to the " T " . I haven't worked now since

November since I hurt my back and am waiting on disability, and workmen's comp

(as a matter of fact, I have a phone appt with my attorney today), and doctor's,

etc...

I'm on Cymbalta and it does work for me also. When I was working, it would take

me hours to put on my makeup and it seems like all day way to get ready for

work. Now I feel totally useless and very broke. And I have to keep the TV on

all night so I don't think about things. I can't just turn it off and go to

sleep. It feels better knowing I'm not alone.

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Dear Jackie,

Thanks so much for your kind email. Yes, it is like that life Jackie..ups and

downs for all of us. A mind over matter thing too...

I am trying my best here and next Friday I will see my GP at last!

I am going to wait a bit longer to take any drug ...but thanks to

recommended Cymbalta!

I feel at the moment very anxious, about my future consultation

with the orthopaedist too..maybe it is a mixture of all of it.

My life right now, pain, future out comes, stress , sleeping

difficulties, etc... But I am stronger and always fighting this things..I will

survive ..lol!!!

I am concerned because sometimes one could have the serotonin level

very low and for that I would need the drug to help me, but I will

talk to my doctor next time regarding this....the serotonin levels.

At least today I feel better when found out that I did not break my

left arm yesterday at the gym...So much relief!!!!I will survive Jackie, I am

working on it!!!!!!!

Thanks again!

God Bless You

Joana

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& Joana,

My whole adult life I have heard " change is good " . I am a creature of habit, so

everytime I experienced a change, divorce, friends " moving on " , change of job,

change of lifestyle, I would slip into a panic and depression. I feel CMT adds

to this as we are constantly changing and adjusting to our bodies.

Just know that we are out there to support you and you have lots of people here

that truly understand where you are. I found that when i stayed active in my

daily activities and talking and being around my friends helped ease the

trouble. I had the hardest time during the nights.

I would fall asleep easily because I was so emotionally exhausted, but would

wake up every night at 3:00 AM and was so tired but could not fall asleep since

my mind would race and race. I also found that keeping the TV on was comforting.

I always felt like no one could understand what it would feel like to be in my

mind and my body.

The medication did help in that it would help neutralize the extreme emotions

and help with the crying jags. I also would take an anti-anxiety short acting

medication when I was feeling my heart pound and nervous inside. I eventually

was able to wean off all medication and have been emotionally stable for the

last year.

Feel free to email me at jeanet@... whenever you feel stressed or

anxiety ridden. I work from home and am on the computer all the time!

My thoughts are with you,

Jackie

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I think antidepressants are wonderful. They have truly saved my life. If anyone

is suffering from depression go to your doctor and get some help.

As you all know I am off Celexa and on Wellbutrin. I feel less side effects but

I did wake up this morning completely terrified that I am raising kids with CMT.

Stay positive and bring on the NT3.

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I'm not sure if I am depressed or what but all I do is sleep too. I sleep an

average of 16 hours a day and I have 4 boys. It may be my meds but I doubt it.

I am on Amitryptiline and Neurontin. Is it possible to be depressed and not

know it? Someone please help me.

Jen

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Jen, hi,

That was exactly my problem years ago. I was depressed and did not know

it. I had both a Neurologist and a Psychiatrist evaluate me and then

both explained it to me. I had to learn to be vigilant about potential

depression - 'triggers' for me are becoming too hungry, too angry, too

lonely or too tired. Journaling daily helps me stay on top of what's

going on in my psyche so I can recognize 'signs' and take action.

Amitriptyline does have a 'sleepiness' effect, depending on how much

you take, which is why, I started out on very small doses in the 80s.

Neurontin works on a different part of the brain, when I took this, I

didn't necessarily sleep longer, but sleep quality was much better.

Hope you can enjoy some good times with the boys this summer.

~ Gretchen

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Hi ,

I've been feeling similar myself right now, as I downsize my job,

leaving second grade, cleaning out my classroom (or, as it is,

pleading with others to clean out my classroom). I get to feeling

so useless sometimes. And I can hold onto that new age perspective

about the whole bigger picture, adjustment is all I need thing, but

it's hard when I go by work and my coworkers are busily dusting

shelves and I'm going home to nap. It gets frustrating.

But rest will bring back energy. And it's a way to turn a new

direction. I think we are in a constant state of readjustment. And

being aware enough to get help when needed (I thought about a " head

doctor " myself today :)) is a real strength.

Best of luck. You certainly are not alone!

Lenka

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Believe me you are not alone with your depression. My husband (who has been

diagnosed with Parkinson's a couple of years ago) and I pray for researchers

constantly.

I have been seeing a counselor for a couple of years as I cannot

take the medications for depression. It seems I am very sensitive to any meds.

Hopefully help for us will come from the researchers, and of course,

from the One Being who watches over all of us.

Blessings,

P.

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Jen,

From what I hear, it's different for everyone, but in the long run...it stops

and life goes on. The stories I've heard it makes us stronger mentally also.

Too much happened to me between moving, getting sick, loosing my job after 18

years, no money. About the only thing I didn't have

to do was drive someone to the airport..lol....Somedays are good some

aren't. I do notice if I overdo it one day, I definitely feel it the next.

It's just the feeling of being useless that gets to me. Doing the dishes is a

big thing for me. And I'm gaining weight. And the sleeping schedule is totally

off. I'm usually up at 4 am and stay up till 8 or 9 go back to sleep until 11,

then slowly start moving around. The best time of day for me is between 5 and

10 or so. It's a hard call. Take care and write whenever.

Love,

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I feel so bad for you. If you feel you need to talk to someone do it. Dont be

embarrased, so many people do( myself included). Really

helped. I was taking Paxil which also helped but was making me tired

all the time so I am switching to something else. Withdrawal was terrible too. I

would NEVER go back on it cuz of that. Prior to my divorce I was living in a

rather wealthy neighborhood and the majority of women living in there were on

something for depression. Hang in there and your sun will shine again, just be

proactive.

Pam

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Gretchen,

That sounds exactly what I'm going through even starting with a hard

childhood. I notice how our minds have a way of forgetting the negative to keep

the positive going and I wish I could remember lots of my childhood, but I can't

and I think it's a protective thing our brain does to keep us going on and

keeping strong.

Sometimes I've wanted to ask a head doctor to go back and try and pick up the

pieces my mind purposely delited, but I don't think that would be the best thing

to do. Our minds are a tricky thing, and I think they know what's best for us.

So if it be so I forgot

some parts, I'll let it be for now.

I feel like a " Happy and Peppy " person in all so far, so why screw that up!?

You're right about getting a regular routine, whether it be a certain show, a

nap at a certain time, a good magazine.....I felt guilty about that at first,

but then again, why should I be?

I've busted my ass all my life and I think it's time to take a little

R & R for my ownself. Thanks, you made my feel good once again. It's just nice

knowing I'm not the only one out here with the same feelings.....Thanks

sweetie!!

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Wow I am sorry to hear about the things that are going on. And please vent

anytime. I feel like I have no outlet at all. Why are you off Enbrel? And if I

missed the post which explains why Im sorry for asking again. I am on nothing as

I refuse to take my plaquenil. I can't see a rheumy until my boyfriend has his

surgery cuz we cant afford it. So I am goin a lil nuts and drinkin too much.

well just wanted to let u know i am here anytime u want to chat, vent or

whatever. :) Jenn

[ ] depression

I'm cross posting (put this on another list, too) so, sorry

for the repeat, but I really need to vent...

I am so depressed right now that I can hardly stand it.

I'm off my Enbrel for about three weeks and crashing so hard that

I've been crying all day. Trying to control it while I run errands

and such. Partly the pain, which is just overwhelming, but mostly

just plain old depression, and there's just nothing I can do about it.

Of course, there's the fact that my life (at least the life I knew

before) is gone. I used to be a performing singer/songwriter and even

with meds I know there's no way my fingers will be able to be strong

enough to practice and perform with the guitar. That's the worst, I

think, losing my music. Not to mention everything else.

Then today my new car got egged, inside and out, I had to change

pharmacies and am losing the people I trusted and knew, I had to be

up and active for most of the day and my schizophrenic brother is

homeless again.

It just feels like too much to bear :(

Thx for listening, tho :) I hope it gets better when I can start

my shots again next week...

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>

> I'm cross posting (put this on another list, too) so, sorry

> for the repeat, but I really need to vent...

>

> I am so depressed right now that I can hardly stand it.

> I'm off my Enbrel for about three weeks and crashing so hard that

> I've been crying all day. Trying to control it while I run errands

> and such. Partly the pain, which is just overwhelming, but mostly

> just plain old depression, and there's just nothing I can do about

it.

>

> Of course, there's the fact that my life (at least the life I knew

> before) is gone. I used to be a performing singer/songwriter and

even

> with meds I know there's no way my fingers will be able to be

strong

> enough to practice and perform with the guitar. That's the worst, I

> think, losing my music. Not to mention everything else.

>

> Then today my new car got egged, inside and out, I had to change

> pharmacies and am losing the people I trusted and knew, I had to be

> up and active for most of the day and my schizophrenic brother is

> homeless again.

>

> It just feels like too much to bear :(

>

> Thx for listening, tho :) I hope it gets better when I can start

> my shots again next week...

>

>

((())) I am so sorry to hear about your pain, Why are you off

your Enbrel? And why would someone egg you car on the inside? that

sound like just pure mean hope they find out who did that to you.

take care and try not to worry about your Brother (I know it is

hard) he is a big boy and only he can help him self.

Take care.

Janet IN IL

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> I'm cross posting (put this on another list, too) so, sorry

> for the repeat, but I really need to vent...

>

> I am so depressed right now that I can hardly stand it.

> I'm off my Enbrel for about three weeks and crashing so hard that

> I've been crying all day. Trying to control it while I run errands

> and such. Partly the pain, which is just overwhelming, but mostly

> just plain old depression, and there's just nothing I can do about

it.

>

> Of course, there's the fact that my life (at least the life I knew

> before) is gone. I used to be a performing singer/songwriter and

even

> with meds I know there's no way my fingers will be able to be strong

> enough to practice and perform with the guitar. That's the worst, I

> think, losing my music. Not to mention everything else.

>

> Then today my new car got egged, inside and out, I had to change

> pharmacies and am losing the people I trusted and knew, I had to be

> up and active for most of the day and my schizophrenic brother is

> homeless again.

>

> It just feels like too much to bear :(

>

> Thx for listening, tho :) I hope it gets better when I can start

> my shots again next week...

>

>

>

,

Even before my DX of my various maladys I was on antidepressants. My

mother was on them, my grandmother was on them, and my son was on

them but quit talking them because of the side effects.(I think he

still needs them and one day he will realize it and go back on them.)

For me it was always a short term thing. Like you, I would know that

I was in trouble and go and get on antidepressant....and I'd take it

for awhile...things would get better and I would be able to taper

down and get off them, sometimes for up to a year at a time. I always

knew they were there....a tool that I could use when I needed it, yet

could put away when I didn't. It's the first thing I asked for with

my DX. because I knew that this was going to be a life changing

challenge, with more twists and turns every day. I was right. And I

am glad that when I really needed them I had already been on them and

they were working...but this time I needed a little more, so I am on

a bit higher dose than ever before. Can you imagine how I would have

felt if I wasn't taking any?? The rules have changed in society as

to the way we view people on antidepresssants. It used to be that you

were the abnormal one...that you needed a pill to cope with everyday

stress...not so theese days. The number of people on antidepressants

runs into the millions in America. Why I don't know...but I do know

that they are a valuable tool in the fight against RA. Depression is

one more thing to take you off the playing field. WE have enough

reasons to stay in bed with the covers over our faces..we don't need

to add derpression to the list. And for some people it is truly a

danger to their saftey to not take them. Be glad that you are able to

realize that you need help and ask your Dr. what he thinks. Odds are

good that he will write you an Rx immediatly...he knows that

depression goes hand in hand with any debilitating illness and that

this is one part of the illness that we have some control over.I know

that you will feel better soon and be able to deal with all those

things we have to deal with on a daily basis.At least you will be

fighting Ra from a level playing field instead of starting out in a

deep hole full of tears! I used to have tears running down my face

all day...for no reason..and then in an instant...I would be crying

my eyes out....life for me is so much better with my Zoloft. I hope

that you will at least give it a try and see if it is a tool that you

can use to make your life better....and remember it takes 3-4 weeks

for it to get into your system and get working good enough to

vanquish those tears!!! Call today.....he may give them to you over

the phone. It is an Rx that he can call in! The sooner you start the

sooner you can start to feel better, and stop the crying and get

back on track with keeping the RA at bay! Good Luck, Jenna

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wrote:

>

> hi

>

> i was diagnosed with ra about 3 mos. ago. symptoms came on rather

> suddenly, when over night i was nearly crippled with pain and went

to

> the hospital. i was angry and surprised at the diagnosis, since i

had

> n;o previous symptoms, and my ignorance of the disease led me to

> believe i was psychosomatic, since i thought arthritis was no big

deal.

>

> i couldn't work for nearly 6 weeks, pain has improved only with

> multiple meds, including methotrexate, prednisone,

hydroxychloroquin,

> naproxin, and humeris(inj. every other wk.). it seems that none of

> these rx's are either cures or good for you. the symptoms are only

> minimally eased, i'm now using a cane, and suffer from muscular

> cramping in hands, feet and legs. sleep is hard to come by, and the

> toll is great on me finacially. i'm slipping into arrears in rent

and

> bills. i'm 59, a man, and i find this all emasculating. i've come

to

> wits' end and see no future, but a lack of quality of life and loss

of

> work. with this disease, and my age future work is not likely. i'm

> contemplating other ways out at this point.

>

HI, you didn't sign your name so I don't have anything to call

you...so I will call you friend. Dear Friend, there isn't a person on

this list who hasn't been in your shoes and felt just as you feel. It

is overwhelming at first and there is a lot of information to absorb

and digest. IF you have a family to help it is still an isolating

disease, and if you are alone it can be devistating. You have come to

the right place my friend. This is where you can ask questions and

bit** and complain all you want......no one will think the worse of

you for it.We support each other and give valuable advice because

with the sheer numbers of the members here, we have probably been on

all the meds that could possibly be prescribed for you. Someone here

has had the side effects and knows a trick or two how to make it

through. The one medication that you didn't mention was an

antidepressant... it is a valuable tool that can really help you over

the rough spots. It's something that you could and should take care

of today......call and ask for a prescrition! The Dr can call it in

for you if he feels that it would be of use to you. That's step one!

WIth the depression that you are feeling out of the way you will be

better able to deal with the day to day task of making it work for

you. Thats what we do...we make it work..day by day. We are all

different. We all have varrying amt. of pain, and different

tollerances to pain. Some of us have the suport of family some

don't.SO take the first step and call for that antidepressant...and

come back here frequently ....many more people will welcome you here,

and offer lots of helpful advice that they have learned works for

them from experience. Welcome....you are not alone. Ask your

questions...and if we can we will anwer them and help you get through

this!!!I will look forward to hearing from you soon! Jenna

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Wow, I am sorry life is so rough right now. Have you called your

doctor and let him know how miserable you are without the Enbrel?

Perhaps they can give you something temporarily for pain? I hate to

see anyone hurt. I also hate for you to store all your faith and

hopes in Enbrel. It is great that it works for you right now when

you can take it, but it may not always work and you need to be

prepared for that possibility. I only got a year on my Humira

before it became detrimental to my health. You could get many years

with the Enbrel, but you might not and I hate to see you have your

whole happiness and everything wrapped up in it. I really think a

call to the doctor is in order and let them know you are in tears,

call crying. I have been there before unfortunately and I was lucky

they were understanding.

I am so sorry about your brother as well, that is overwhelming. You

do have a lot to handle right now. Why did you have to switch

pharmacies? Was it your insurance company? Sometimes they make me

so mad making us switch pharmacies or doctors or specialists, oh,

don't EVEN get me started on those insurance companies. I can feel

my blood pressure boiling!

Just know your friends are here in group and please do think about

giving the doctor a call. I will be praying for you.

Tracie

>

> I'm cross posting (put this on another list, too) so, sorry

> for the repeat, but I really need to vent...

>

> I am so depressed right now that I can hardly stand it.

> I'm off my Enbrel for about three weeks and crashing so hard that

> I've been crying all day. Trying to control it while I run errands

> and such. Partly the pain, which is just overwhelming, but mostly

> just plain old depression, and there's just nothing I can do about

it.

>

> Of course, there's the fact that my life (at least the life I knew

> before) is gone. I used to be a performing singer/songwriter and

even

> with meds I know there's no way my fingers will be able to be

strong

> enough to practice and perform with the guitar. That's the worst, I

> think, losing my music. Not to mention everything else.

>

> Then today my new car got egged, inside and out, I had to change

> pharmacies and am losing the people I trusted and knew, I had to be

> up and active for most of the day and my schizophrenic brother is

> homeless again.

>

> It just feels like too much to bear :(

>

> Thx for listening, tho :) I hope it gets better when I can start

> my shots again next week...

>

>

>

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I'm sorry that you're so depressed. I hope that you can soon go back on

the Enbrel soon so that you can get some relief.

Don't lose hope. It might well be that your RA will some day be

controlled so well that your fingers will get strong again and able to

perform with the guitar. If not, you can still write songs and sing.

Don't let the old RA stop that. I just saw the PBS program on Bob Dylan

(part 1) for the second time, and admire anyone with talent along that

line. I'll be sending positive thoughts your way.

Sue

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>

> Of course, there's the fact that my life (at least the life I knew

> before) is gone. I used to be a performing singer/songwriter and even

> with meds I know there's no way my fingers will be able to be strong

> enough to practice and perform with the guitar. That's the worst, I

> think, losing my music. Not to mention everything else.

>

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Great good gods! I should say you're depressed, anybody would be with

that much stuff going on. For right now, just try to make it through

one day at a time, small steps, instead of trying to fix everything all

at once. Hopefully things will start getting better soon, especially

when you can get back to your shots.

/great big hugs/

Shanna

wrote:

> I'm cross posting (put this on another list, too) so, sorry

> for the repeat, but I really need to vent...

>

> I am so depressed right now that I can hardly stand it.

> I'm off my Enbrel for about three weeks and crashing so hard that

> I've been crying all day. Trying to control it while I run errands

> and such. Partly the pain, which is just overwhelming, but mostly

> just plain old depression, and there's just nothing I can do about it.

>

> Of course, there's the fact that my life (at least the life I knew

> before) is gone. I used to be a performing singer/songwriter and even

> with meds I know there's no way my fingers will be able to be strong

> enough to practice and perform with the guitar. That's the worst, I

> think, losing my music. Not to mention everything else.

>

> Then today my new car got egged, inside and out, I had to change

> pharmacies and am losing the people I trusted and knew, I had to be

> up and active for most of the day and my schizophrenic brother is

> homeless again.

>

> It just feels like too much to bear :(

>

> Thx for listening, tho :) I hope it gets better when I can start

> my shots again next week...

>

>

>

> __.

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, Even the crappy studies that have been done on implants have shown that women are more likely to commit suicide when they have breast implants, and these studies have been supported by other studies done in other countries. The medical professional has at least gotten this right....women commit suicide at higher rates with breast implants. However, their conjectured reasoning behind this statistic makes you frustrated. They tend to want to blame the women for having "issues" prior to getting implants and that these issues don't get solved after being implanted. This is just so much baloney. We can see for ourselves on this group that women get sick after getting implants, and the illness is enough to drive them to suicide when nobody understands their illness, nor can they provide assistance to recover from it. It's sad. It happens. There is a website

that allowed discussion of one of these studies, in which some of our professional women contributed. You can check into this discussion more here: http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/eletters/326/7388/527 Patty Platte <deniseplatte@...> wrote: Rogene~ It seems like most everyone with implants has a history of depression. Do you think that it is related to our silicone

sensitivity, makes us more suspecitible. Is there anyone who was not depressed anyway before implants? Thanx Rogene~` Rogene S <saxony01@...> wrote: ,You'll get your body back . . You may have to work at it, but it's doable . . . Just keep putting one foot in front of the other until you get there!After 16 years of implants and explanted for 12 years, I still have times when I don't feel 100% . . . but most of the time I feel good! . . . Compared to a lot of women my age, I feel like I'm ahead of the game because of the things I've learned along the way.Hugs,Rogene

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