Re: Needed Pediatrician info in South Orange County who can do physical without vaccines

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Hi can I get a listing of pediatricians in South Orange County who would do my childrens physicals without vaccinations. Our current pediatrician will not do one & asked us to find another doctor for the kids.Please help, they need this to get into phsical programs at school starting next month.Best regards,Kamal IMPORTANT NOTICE: This message is intended only for the addressee and may contain confidential, privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy or disclose any information contained in the message. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and delete the message. From: Sheri Nakken <vaccinedangers@...>Subject: Will Kids Get Lyme Disease If Schools Don't Spray?Date: Monday, May 23, 2011, 7:56 AM

from Winnie

Interesting article about the PR efforts regarding pesticides (and

there's a link in the article to see what individual states do but I

can't bring it up).

Winnie

(

http://motherjones.com/blue-marble/2011/05/lyme-disease-pesticides-schools

)

Will Kids Get Lyme Disease If Schools Don't Spray?By

Kiera |

Mon May. 23, 2011 2:30 AM PDT

Hip, hip, hooray! As of last week, student athletes in New York will no

longer have to worry about getting a mouthful of toxic chemicals when

they dive for the ball: The state became the second to ban pesticides on

school playing fields and playgrounds, following

Connecticut [1], which has had a similar law since 2007. A ban has

also been proposed in

New Jersey [2].

The move would seem like a no-brainer, considering the ever-growing pile

of evidence that pesticides are harmful to kids. Childhood exposure to

the chemicals has been linked to a long list of conditions, including

asthma [3],

ADHD [4], and even

cancer [5]. But not everyone thinks school spray bans are a good

idea. Some have argued that pesticides are essential tools for preventing

tick-borne illnesses like Lyme disease, allergies to bee stings, and

other creepy-crawly threats. Here's a spokeswoman for the pesticide

industry group Responsible Industry

for a Sound Environment [6] (RISE) in the

Hartford Courant [7] on Connecticut's school pesticide

ban:

"It's quite an over-reach," says RISE spokeswoman

Reardon. She says the failure to use pesticides on school fields in

Connecticut, for example, could lead to "the spread of Lyme

disease" by allowing deer ticks to multiply. There can be instances

when "pest pressure needs to be knocked down immediately,"

Reardon says, adding the best way to do that is with the "judicious

use" of pesticides.

Environmental health advocates dismiss the tick argument as a

pesticide-industry scare tactic. "Whether it's public health crises

or those deadly weeds, there's always some emergency that industry touts

as the reason to spray pesticides on school grounds," says

Towers, state director of the California watchdog group

Pesticide Watch [8]. Still,

the idea of playing fast and loose with

Lyme

disease [9] at schools is a bit unsettling. So is there any merit to

RISE's claims?

Not really, says Mana Mann, a pediatrician with the Mt. Sinai's

Children's Environmental Health Center [10]. "There is no

evidence supporting the use of pesticides in the school environment to

affect the incidence of Lyme disease." Furthermore, most laws that

ban or limit chemical use at schools make exceptions for public health

issues. Both New York's and Connecticut's bans fall into this category.

"We're not asking anyone to stop controlling ticks," says

Tookey, the founder of the environmental health advocacy group Safe

Lawns. "We're trying to get people to stop using pesticides to kill

dandelions."

Not as easy as it sounds, considering that the

$36 billion [11] pesticide industry has devoted significant resources

to convincing the public that its wares are keeping them safe. The RISE

website Debug the Myths [12] is

entirely devoted to defending the reputation of much-maligned pesticides.

"We know you can handle the truth," reads one section of the

site. "Pesticides help keep our families healthy and our homes

happy." This summer, Debug the Myths will go on

tour [13], offering kid-oriented activities like a "What Pest

Are You?" quiz. Adults can "write a letter to tell your local

government officials about the benefits of the pesticide and fertilizer

products you use at home and about those used in your

community."

All the PR and lobbying efforts seem to be paying off. In California the

Healthy

Schools Act of 2011 [14] would have required school districts to

adopt stricter rules around pesticide applications. It was weakened in an

amendment [15] this month, after lobby groups including RISE and the

Western Plant Health Association fought against it. The first version of

the bill forbid, for example, the use of known carcinogens and blanket

spraying on school grounds; the amended version included neither of these

rules. When I spoke to Dominic DiMare, a lobbyist for the

Pest Control Operators of California

[16], he said he believed that industry groups played a major role in the

amendment.

Earlier this year in Connecticut, environmental groups fought for a bill

that would give individual cities and towns more autonomy in limiting

pesticide use in lawns and public spaces. But in March, State Rep.

Roy (D-Milford) announced that the state senate's Environment

Committee had decided not to introduce any new pesticide bills in 2011.

Roy told a

CT News Junkie [17] that he "made the agreement with the lead

pesticide lobbyist to take a year off on pesticides because passage of

the law banning pesticides on school grounds was so

contentious."

Politically expedient though such deals may be, they're not the best move

for kids' health. "Children are especially vulnerable to pesticides

because they are still growing and developing," says Mann, the Mt.

Sinai pediatrician. "Because research studies have shown a wide

range of negative health effects for children from their exposure to

pesticides, pesticide use [at schools] should be avoided as much as

possible."

Laws about pesticide use at schools vary widely. Many states use some

form of

integrated pest

management [18], which incorporates non-chemical control methods as

well as traditional pesticides, though there's not a lot of consistency

in exactly how this is interpreted. If you're curious about policies in

your state, check out Beyond Pesticides' guide

(

PDF [19]).

Source URL:

http://motherjones.com/blue-marble/2011/05/lyme-disease-pesticides-schools

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Why not try calling your health care provider. If you are paying for medical

insurance than why should a doctor have a right to refuse you medical care if

vaccines are not mandatory. Let the insurance companies deal with these doctors.

I'd love to see these doctors contracts with the insurance company, I'll just

bet they have something written that they cannot refuse care if they are under

contract. Lets start using our power and stop hiding.

Peggy

> Hi can I get a listing of pediatricians in South Orange County who would

do my childrens physicals without vaccinations.  Our current pediatrician will

not do one & asked us to find another doctor for the kids.

>

> Please help, they need this to get into phsical programs at school starting

next month.

>

> Best regards,

>

> Kamal

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Why not try calling your health care provider. If you are paying for medical

insurance than why should a doctor have a right to refuse you medical care if

vaccines are not mandatory. Let the insurance companies deal with these doctors.

I'd love to see these doctors contracts with the insurance company, I'll just

bet they have something written that they cannot refuse care if they are under

contract. Lets start using our power and stop hiding.

Peggy

> Hi can I get a listing of pediatricians in South Orange County who would

do my childrens physicals without vaccinations.  Our current pediatrician will

not do one & asked us to find another doctor for the kids.

>

> Please help, they need this to get into phsical programs at school starting

next month.

>

> Best regards,

>

> Kamal