Re: vaccines and autism: a new scientific review

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by The_Todd July 12, 2011 10:41 PM EDT

" Sigh! Interesting articles but clearly presenting one side of the story only.

Everyone in the vaccine controversy loves anecdotes it seems and data from

sketchy sources. Here is my sketchy source, Wikipedia.

Measles: Case fatality rate can be >25%. Worldwide estimates are nearly 500

deaths per year. With initiation of vaccination campaign, worldwide cases in

children decreased from nearly 900,000 in 1999 to under 170,000 in 2008. In the

US, there have been under 200 deaths in the last 20 years from measles, with

most recent cases involving un vaccinated children.

Polio: mortality with infection is 5-10%. Vaccination efforts have decreased

incidence from 350, 000 cases in 1988 down to roughly 1000 cases per year

worldwide. This means that 17,000 to 35,000 fewer people are dying each year as

a result of vaccination, not to mention those left with permanent disability.

Mumps: Over 150,000 cases per year in US pre-vaccination. Just over 250 cases

per year since then. Mumps doesn't really kill people but did cause fetal death

during pregnancy, infertility, meningitis, and deafness.

Rubella: in an outbreak in the 1960s, over 30,000 fetuses were killed with over

20,000 children born with disabilities. There has not been an endemic case in

the US in over 2 years.

For the many families I have seen as a pediatric intensive care physician, the

death of their unvaccinated child due to a vaccine-preventable child is quite

disturbing, even more so given the overwhelming evidence that the vaccines do,

in fact prevent the diseases they are designed to prevent...regardless of the

side effects. It is not my job to blame, and as an ICU doc, I don't really even

have the opportunity to advocate for vaccines. However, it is frustrating when

families discard the real, proven risk of DEATH from vaccine-preventable

illnesses due to concern about the possible (and in reality, unproven)

behavioral or other long term side effects of the vaccines. I am not pretending

to think that I can change anyone's mind here; most who are posting comments

have views that are quite entrenched. I just want to shed a little perspective

(and more anecdotes) on the issue. No doubt I will continue to see children

dying from these vaccine-preventable diseases, particularly pertussis and

varicella.

With regard to the Delong study posted, there is an alternate explanation to the

data. Perhaps autism prevalence (the total # of people alive with the diagnosis)

is going up not because the frequency of illness is increasing but rather

because people who used to die from other reasons (vaccine-preventable

infections) are now surviving. The study makes so many unsupported

speculations that it is not even worth commenting about. "

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