Re: Approaching Doctor about not vaccinating

[Guest guest]

All you need to say is that you're not doing it. Simple as that. No matter what she says, ignore it. You need to have the attitude that you're not budging. If you give the impression that you're not positive about your decision, she will most likely go on and on and on. You don't need to explain to her your parenting decisions. Would you explain to your gynecologist (if you have one) about your sexual preferences? None of their damn business.

Also ask yourself this question, does your daughter really need to see a pediatrician for you to know that she is healthy? My son hasn't seen a doctor since he was 2 months old and the doctor told me " there are a lot of crazy, biased stuff on the internet about vaccines. Let me get you some real information. " And she came back with advertisements/brochures from the VACCINE MANUFACTURERS!

On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 1:30 AM, danritter1980 <danritter1980@...> wrote:

I am taking my daughter to her 4 month " well visit " on friday. I am

looking for ideas to concisely and diplomaticaly express to the doctor

that I do not want my daughter vaccinated, maybe a good fact sheet to

print out or some choice wording to express my concerns. I have looked

at so much information that it is difficult to choose a couple of

talking points to convey my thoughts, especially to a pediatrician who

is prepared for these encounters. Any feedback is greatly appreciated

[Guest guest]

All you need to say is that you're not doing it. Simple as that. No matter what she says, ignore it. You need to have the attitude that you're not budging. If you give the impression that you're not positive about your decision, she will most likely go on and on and on. You don't need to explain to her your parenting decisions. Would you explain to your gynecologist (if you have one) about your sexual preferences? None of their damn business.

Also ask yourself this question, does your daughter really need to see a pediatrician for you to know that she is healthy? My son hasn't seen a doctor since he was 2 months old and the doctor told me " there are a lot of crazy, biased stuff on the internet about vaccines. Let me get you some real information. " And she came back with advertisements/brochures from the VACCINE MANUFACTURERS!

On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 1:30 AM, danritter1980 <danritter1980@...> wrote:

I am taking my daughter to her 4 month " well visit " on friday. I am

looking for ideas to concisely and diplomaticaly express to the doctor

that I do not want my daughter vaccinated, maybe a good fact sheet to

print out or some choice wording to express my concerns. I have looked

at so much information that it is difficult to choose a couple of

talking points to convey my thoughts, especially to a pediatrician who

is prepared for these encounters. Any feedback is greatly appreciated

[Guest guest]

All you need to say is that you're not doing it. Simple as that. No matter what she says, ignore it. You need to have the attitude that you're not budging. If you give the impression that you're not positive about your decision, she will most likely go on and on and on. You don't need to explain to her your parenting decisions. Would you explain to your gynecologist (if you have one) about your sexual preferences? None of their damn business.

Also ask yourself this question, does your daughter really need to see a pediatrician for you to know that she is healthy? My son hasn't seen a doctor since he was 2 months old and the doctor told me " there are a lot of crazy, biased stuff on the internet about vaccines. Let me get you some real information. " And she came back with advertisements/brochures from the VACCINE MANUFACTURERS!

On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 1:30 AM, danritter1980 <danritter1980@...> wrote:

I am taking my daughter to her 4 month " well visit " on friday. I am

looking for ideas to concisely and diplomaticaly express to the doctor

that I do not want my daughter vaccinated, maybe a good fact sheet to

print out or some choice wording to express my concerns. I have looked

at so much information that it is difficult to choose a couple of

talking points to convey my thoughts, especially to a pediatrician who

is prepared for these encounters. Any feedback is greatly appreciated

[Guest guest]

All you need to say is that you're not doing it. Simple as that. No matter what she says, ignore it. You need to have the attitude that you're not budging. If you give the impression that you're not positive about your decision, she will most likely go on and on and on. You don't need to explain to her your parenting decisions. Would you explain to your gynecologist (if you have one) about your sexual preferences? None of their damn business.

Also ask yourself this question, does your daughter really need to see a pediatrician for you to know that she is healthy? My son hasn't seen a doctor since he was 2 months old and the doctor told me " there are a lot of crazy, biased stuff on the internet about vaccines. Let me get you some real information. " And she came back with advertisements/brochures from the VACCINE MANUFACTURERS!

On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 1:30 AM, danritter1980 <danritter1980@...> wrote:

I am taking my daughter to her 4 month " well visit " on friday. I am

looking for ideas to concisely and diplomaticaly express to the doctor

that I do not want my daughter vaccinated, maybe a good fact sheet to

print out or some choice wording to express my concerns. I have looked

at so much information that it is difficult to choose a couple of

talking points to convey my thoughts, especially to a pediatrician who

is prepared for these encounters. Any feedback is greatly appreciated

[Guest guest]

I don't know, but maybe you could gently point out that you know several people whose children (e.g., mine) whose behavior deteriorated after vaccinations, and you'd like to hold back until you were sure what the meaning of all this is. Perhaps, too, the use of attack dogs and armed guards to force vaccinations in land has really put you off. Maybe also reasure him and say that you intend to get the vaccinations fairly soon after you study the matter further. Then switch doctors? I'm a chicken, too, but the vaccines (and "silver" fillings") severely and permanently damaged my children and my wife and I (and killed my dad) ----> http://www.mercuryxxpoisoned.com

From: danritter1980 <danritter1980@...>Subject: Approaching Doctor about not vaccinatingno-forced-vaccination Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 10:30 PM

I am taking my daughter to her 4 month "well visit" on friday. I am looking for ideas to concisely and diplomaticaly express to the doctor that I do not want my daughter vaccinated, maybe a good fact sheet to print out or some choice wording to express my concerns. I have looked at so much information that it is difficult to choose a couple of talking points to convey my thoughts, especially to a pediatrician who is prepared for these encounters. Any feedback is greatly appreciated

[Guest guest]

I don't know, but maybe you could gently point out that you know several people whose children (e.g., mine) whose behavior deteriorated after vaccinations, and you'd like to hold back until you were sure what the meaning of all this is. Perhaps, too, the use of attack dogs and armed guards to force vaccinations in land has really put you off. Maybe also reasure him and say that you intend to get the vaccinations fairly soon after you study the matter further. Then switch doctors? I'm a chicken, too, but the vaccines (and "silver" fillings") severely and permanently damaged my children and my wife and I (and killed my dad) ----> http://www.mercuryxxpoisoned.com

From: danritter1980 <danritter1980@...>Subject: Approaching Doctor about not vaccinatingno-forced-vaccination Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 10:30 PM

I am taking my daughter to her 4 month "well visit" on friday. I am looking for ideas to concisely and diplomaticaly express to the doctor that I do not want my daughter vaccinated, maybe a good fact sheet to print out or some choice wording to express my concerns. I have looked at so much information that it is difficult to choose a couple of talking points to convey my thoughts, especially to a pediatrician who is prepared for these encounters. Any feedback is greatly appreciated

[Guest guest]

I don't know, but maybe you could gently point out that you know several people whose children (e.g., mine) whose behavior deteriorated after vaccinations, and you'd like to hold back until you were sure what the meaning of all this is. Perhaps, too, the use of attack dogs and armed guards to force vaccinations in land has really put you off. Maybe also reasure him and say that you intend to get the vaccinations fairly soon after you study the matter further. Then switch doctors? I'm a chicken, too, but the vaccines (and "silver" fillings") severely and permanently damaged my children and my wife and I (and killed my dad) ----> http://www.mercuryxxpoisoned.com

From: danritter1980 <danritter1980@...>Subject: Approaching Doctor about not vaccinatingno-forced-vaccination Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 10:30 PM

I am taking my daughter to her 4 month "well visit" on friday. I am looking for ideas to concisely and diplomaticaly express to the doctor that I do not want my daughter vaccinated, maybe a good fact sheet to print out or some choice wording to express my concerns. I have looked at so much information that it is difficult to choose a couple of talking points to convey my thoughts, especially to a pediatrician who is prepared for these encounters. Any feedback is greatly appreciated

[Guest guest]

I don't know, but maybe you could gently point out that you know several people whose children (e.g., mine) whose behavior deteriorated after vaccinations, and you'd like to hold back until you were sure what the meaning of all this is. Perhaps, too, the use of attack dogs and armed guards to force vaccinations in land has really put you off. Maybe also reasure him and say that you intend to get the vaccinations fairly soon after you study the matter further. Then switch doctors? I'm a chicken, too, but the vaccines (and "silver" fillings") severely and permanently damaged my children and my wife and I (and killed my dad) ----> http://www.mercuryxxpoisoned.com

From: danritter1980 <danritter1980@...>Subject: Approaching Doctor about not vaccinatingno-forced-vaccination Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 10:30 PM

I am taking my daughter to her 4 month "well visit" on friday. I am looking for ideas to concisely and diplomaticaly express to the doctor that I do not want my daughter vaccinated, maybe a good fact sheet to print out or some choice wording to express my concerns. I have looked at so much information that it is difficult to choose a couple of talking points to convey my thoughts, especially to a pediatrician who is prepared for these encounters. Any feedback is greatly appreciated

[Guest guest]

Hullo Danritter. You only need to take your state's vaccine exemption in with you, so look that up. There is a medical in all states. See if your state has a religious and or conscientios exemption. Write it up or use one of the forms or letters. Sign it, date it, and make copies. Some states want it certified, so see if yours needs that and get it done before Friday. Most forms and letters are printable or can be put on your word processor to personalize or make adjustments or updates. Find and read thorougly your states exemption infomation at the link at the bottom. You can also look up you individual states vaccination regulations, and see the actual bills and passages and wording for your state. Hand it to your receptionist and tell them you want a copy of your vaccine exemption put in their record file. That should be the end of it. YOU do not need to say anything more than that. It is not their

business. The more you talk, the more your story might wander from the exemption wording, so say little if anything. If the doctor questions it, tell them that is your decision. If they press you with coersion, stick to your guns, SMILE comfortably, and politely keep reminding them that you do not want your child vaccinated, and it is your legal right to do so. End of story. (There is a tiny chance that they may tell you to go elsewhere for treatment BECAUSE vaccinations are the main source of their income In this event, just smile and say ok. Can I have my childs records. Then fire THEM and get another doctor, a general practicioner, and/ or a homeopath or chiropractor.) You DO NOT need to be affiliated with any religion to use the religious exemption, even if anyone ever TRIES to say differently. A few states try to say that you must name your religious affiliation or

get a church officiate to sign a letter for your. They are out of their realm to ask, and it is not legal, and they know it. Another form of unlawful intimidation. They are praying on the uninformed. Tell us how it goes. Glad Day ~ Karla in IL http://www.vaclib.org/exemption.htm

[Guest guest]

Hullo Danritter. You only need to take your state's vaccine exemption in with you, so look that up. There is a medical in all states. See if your state has a religious and or conscientios exemption. Write it up or use one of the forms or letters. Sign it, date it, and make copies. Some states want it certified, so see if yours needs that and get it done before Friday. Most forms and letters are printable or can be put on your word processor to personalize or make adjustments or updates. Find and read thorougly your states exemption infomation at the link at the bottom. You can also look up you individual states vaccination regulations, and see the actual bills and passages and wording for your state. Hand it to your receptionist and tell them you want a copy of your vaccine exemption put in their record file. That should be the end of it. YOU do not need to say anything more than that. It is not their

business. The more you talk, the more your story might wander from the exemption wording, so say little if anything. If the doctor questions it, tell them that is your decision. If they press you with coersion, stick to your guns, SMILE comfortably, and politely keep reminding them that you do not want your child vaccinated, and it is your legal right to do so. End of story. (There is a tiny chance that they may tell you to go elsewhere for treatment BECAUSE vaccinations are the main source of their income In this event, just smile and say ok. Can I have my childs records. Then fire THEM and get another doctor, a general practicioner, and/ or a homeopath or chiropractor.) You DO NOT need to be affiliated with any religion to use the religious exemption, even if anyone ever TRIES to say differently. A few states try to say that you must name your religious affiliation or

get a church officiate to sign a letter for your. They are out of their realm to ask, and it is not legal, and they know it. Another form of unlawful intimidation. They are praying on the uninformed. Tell us how it goes. Glad Day ~ Karla in IL http://www.vaclib.org/exemption.htm

[Guest guest]

Hullo Danritter. You only need to take your state's vaccine exemption in with you, so look that up. There is a medical in all states. See if your state has a religious and or conscientios exemption. Write it up or use one of the forms or letters. Sign it, date it, and make copies. Some states want it certified, so see if yours needs that and get it done before Friday. Most forms and letters are printable or can be put on your word processor to personalize or make adjustments or updates. Find and read thorougly your states exemption infomation at the link at the bottom. You can also look up you individual states vaccination regulations, and see the actual bills and passages and wording for your state. Hand it to your receptionist and tell them you want a copy of your vaccine exemption put in their record file. That should be the end of it. YOU do not need to say anything more than that. It is not their

business. The more you talk, the more your story might wander from the exemption wording, so say little if anything. If the doctor questions it, tell them that is your decision. If they press you with coersion, stick to your guns, SMILE comfortably, and politely keep reminding them that you do not want your child vaccinated, and it is your legal right to do so. End of story. (There is a tiny chance that they may tell you to go elsewhere for treatment BECAUSE vaccinations are the main source of their income In this event, just smile and say ok. Can I have my childs records. Then fire THEM and get another doctor, a general practicioner, and/ or a homeopath or chiropractor.) You DO NOT need to be affiliated with any religion to use the religious exemption, even if anyone ever TRIES to say differently. A few states try to say that you must name your religious affiliation or

get a church officiate to sign a letter for your. They are out of their realm to ask, and it is not legal, and they know it. Another form of unlawful intimidation. They are praying on the uninformed. Tell us how it goes. Glad Day ~ Karla in IL http://www.vaclib.org/exemption.htm

[Guest guest]

Hullo Danritter. You only need to take your state's vaccine exemption in with you, so look that up. There is a medical in all states. See if your state has a religious and or conscientios exemption. Write it up or use one of the forms or letters. Sign it, date it, and make copies. Some states want it certified, so see if yours needs that and get it done before Friday. Most forms and letters are printable or can be put on your word processor to personalize or make adjustments or updates. Find and read thorougly your states exemption infomation at the link at the bottom. You can also look up you individual states vaccination regulations, and see the actual bills and passages and wording for your state. Hand it to your receptionist and tell them you want a copy of your vaccine exemption put in their record file. That should be the end of it. YOU do not need to say anything more than that. It is not their

business. The more you talk, the more your story might wander from the exemption wording, so say little if anything. If the doctor questions it, tell them that is your decision. If they press you with coersion, stick to your guns, SMILE comfortably, and politely keep reminding them that you do not want your child vaccinated, and it is your legal right to do so. End of story. (There is a tiny chance that they may tell you to go elsewhere for treatment BECAUSE vaccinations are the main source of their income In this event, just smile and say ok. Can I have my childs records. Then fire THEM and get another doctor, a general practicioner, and/ or a homeopath or chiropractor.) You DO NOT need to be affiliated with any religion to use the religious exemption, even if anyone ever TRIES to say differently. A few states try to say that you must name your religious affiliation or

get a church officiate to sign a letter for your. They are out of their realm to ask, and it is not legal, and they know it. Another form of unlawful intimidation. They are praying on the uninformed. Tell us how it goes. Glad Day ~ Karla in IL http://www.vaclib.org/exemption.htm

[Guest guest]

Is there any particular reason for taking your child for a " well visit " ,

which is merely another ploy for pushing toxic vaccinations on insecure

young mothers. Surely, you as her mom are the best judge of whether your

child is developing normally, you don't need a " professional " to weigh and

measure your child (you can do that yourself!) or a reassuring pat on the

back confirming that you are a " good li'l mom " . You already KNOW that! There

is absolutely no need whatsoever to express anything " diplomatically " to the

good doc. YOU are the ultimate decision-maker when it comes to the health

and well-being of your child, you have the RIGHT to decide whether or not to

vaccinate your child. Period! If the " learned " friend doesn't like it - too

bad. Tell him to take a hike and find another doctor.

Please folks, develop a backbone and exercise your rights and above all

don't allow yourself to be intimidated!

By the way, my UNVACCINATED grandchildren in California (6 years and 19

months old) haven't been taken to any " well visit " since the day they were

born.

Referring to your previous mail, Karla, regarding the school physical - when

my daughter enroled in school recently, she handed them the

vaccination exemption and also crossed out the " physical examination " clause

and wrote in bold letters underneath " NOT WITHOUT MY PRIOR CONSENT " .

Ingrid

I am taking my daughter to her 4 month " well visit " on friday. I am

looking for ideas to concisely and diplomaticaly express to the doctor

that I do not want my daughter vaccinated, maybe a good fact sheet to

print out or some choice wording to express my concerns. I have looked

at so much information that it is difficult to choose a couple of

talking points to convey my thoughts, especially to a pediatrician who

is prepared for these encounters. Any feedback is greatly appreciated

------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

Is there any particular reason for taking your child for a " well visit " ,

which is merely another ploy for pushing toxic vaccinations on insecure

young mothers. Surely, you as her mom are the best judge of whether your

child is developing normally, you don't need a " professional " to weigh and

measure your child (you can do that yourself!) or a reassuring pat on the

back confirming that you are a " good li'l mom " . You already KNOW that! There

is absolutely no need whatsoever to express anything " diplomatically " to the

good doc. YOU are the ultimate decision-maker when it comes to the health

and well-being of your child, you have the RIGHT to decide whether or not to

vaccinate your child. Period! If the " learned " friend doesn't like it - too

bad. Tell him to take a hike and find another doctor.

Please folks, develop a backbone and exercise your rights and above all

don't allow yourself to be intimidated!

By the way, my UNVACCINATED grandchildren in California (6 years and 19

months old) haven't been taken to any " well visit " since the day they were

born.

Referring to your previous mail, Karla, regarding the school physical - when

my daughter enroled in school recently, she handed them the

vaccination exemption and also crossed out the " physical examination " clause

and wrote in bold letters underneath " NOT WITHOUT MY PRIOR CONSENT " .

Ingrid

I am taking my daughter to her 4 month " well visit " on friday. I am

looking for ideas to concisely and diplomaticaly express to the doctor

that I do not want my daughter vaccinated, maybe a good fact sheet to

print out or some choice wording to express my concerns. I have looked

at so much information that it is difficult to choose a couple of

talking points to convey my thoughts, especially to a pediatrician who

is prepared for these encounters. Any feedback is greatly appreciated

------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

Is there any particular reason for taking your child for a " well visit " ,

which is merely another ploy for pushing toxic vaccinations on insecure

young mothers. Surely, you as her mom are the best judge of whether your

child is developing normally, you don't need a " professional " to weigh and

measure your child (you can do that yourself!) or a reassuring pat on the

back confirming that you are a " good li'l mom " . You already KNOW that! There

is absolutely no need whatsoever to express anything " diplomatically " to the

good doc. YOU are the ultimate decision-maker when it comes to the health

and well-being of your child, you have the RIGHT to decide whether or not to

vaccinate your child. Period! If the " learned " friend doesn't like it - too

bad. Tell him to take a hike and find another doctor.

Please folks, develop a backbone and exercise your rights and above all

don't allow yourself to be intimidated!

By the way, my UNVACCINATED grandchildren in California (6 years and 19

months old) haven't been taken to any " well visit " since the day they were

born.

Referring to your previous mail, Karla, regarding the school physical - when

my daughter enroled in school recently, she handed them the

vaccination exemption and also crossed out the " physical examination " clause

and wrote in bold letters underneath " NOT WITHOUT MY PRIOR CONSENT " .

Ingrid

I am taking my daughter to her 4 month " well visit " on friday. I am

looking for ideas to concisely and diplomaticaly express to the doctor

that I do not want my daughter vaccinated, maybe a good fact sheet to

print out or some choice wording to express my concerns. I have looked

at so much information that it is difficult to choose a couple of

talking points to convey my thoughts, especially to a pediatrician who

is prepared for these encounters. Any feedback is greatly appreciated

------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

Is there any particular reason for taking your child for a " well visit " ,

which is merely another ploy for pushing toxic vaccinations on insecure

young mothers. Surely, you as her mom are the best judge of whether your

child is developing normally, you don't need a " professional " to weigh and

measure your child (you can do that yourself!) or a reassuring pat on the

back confirming that you are a " good li'l mom " . You already KNOW that! There

is absolutely no need whatsoever to express anything " diplomatically " to the

good doc. YOU are the ultimate decision-maker when it comes to the health

and well-being of your child, you have the RIGHT to decide whether or not to

vaccinate your child. Period! If the " learned " friend doesn't like it - too

bad. Tell him to take a hike and find another doctor.

Please folks, develop a backbone and exercise your rights and above all

don't allow yourself to be intimidated!

By the way, my UNVACCINATED grandchildren in California (6 years and 19

months old) haven't been taken to any " well visit " since the day they were

born.

Referring to your previous mail, Karla, regarding the school physical - when

my daughter enroled in school recently, she handed them the

vaccination exemption and also crossed out the " physical examination " clause

and wrote in bold letters underneath " NOT WITHOUT MY PRIOR CONSENT " .

Ingrid

I am taking my daughter to her 4 month " well visit " on friday. I am

looking for ideas to concisely and diplomaticaly express to the doctor

that I do not want my daughter vaccinated, maybe a good fact sheet to

print out or some choice wording to express my concerns. I have looked

at so much information that it is difficult to choose a couple of

talking points to convey my thoughts, especially to a pediatrician who

is prepared for these encounters. Any feedback is greatly appreciated

------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

I agree 100%. My son will never visit another doctor for a " check-up " . Everything they do there, I can do at home, with much more intuition. Doctors have always made me uneasy since I was a child and I never knew why. Well now I know.

On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 4:12 AM, Ingrid Blank <enb1@...> wrote:

Is there any particular reason for taking your child for a " well visit " ,

which is merely another ploy for pushing toxic vaccinations on insecure

young mothers. Surely, you as her mom are the best judge of whether your

child is developing normally, you don't need a " professional " to weigh and

measure your child (you can do that yourself!) or a reassuring pat on the

back confirming that you are a " good li'l mom " . You already KNOW that! There

is absolutely no need whatsoever to express anything " diplomatically " to the

good doc. YOU are the ultimate decision-maker when it comes to the health

and well-being of your child, you have the RIGHT to decide whether or not to

vaccinate your child. Period! If the " learned " friend doesn't like it - too

bad. Tell him to take a hike and find another doctor.

Please folks, develop a backbone and exercise your rights and above all

don't allow yourself to be intimidated!

By the way, my UNVACCINATED grandchildren in California (6 years and 19

months old) haven't been taken to any " well visit " since the day they were

born.

Referring to your previous mail, Karla, regarding the school physical - when

my daughter enroled in school recently, she handed them the

vaccination exemption and also crossed out the " physical examination " clause

and wrote in bold letters underneath " NOT WITHOUT MY PRIOR CONSENT " .

Ingrid

I am taking my daughter to her 4 month " well visit " on friday. I am

looking for ideas to concisely and diplomaticaly express to the doctor

that I do not want my daughter vaccinated, maybe a good fact sheet to

print out or some choice wording to express my concerns. I have looked

at so much information that it is difficult to choose a couple of

talking points to convey my thoughts, especially to a pediatrician who

is prepared for these encounters. Any feedback is greatly appreciated

------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

I agree 100%. My son will never visit another doctor for a " check-up " . Everything they do there, I can do at home, with much more intuition. Doctors have always made me uneasy since I was a child and I never knew why. Well now I know.

On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 4:12 AM, Ingrid Blank <enb1@...> wrote:

Is there any particular reason for taking your child for a " well visit " ,

which is merely another ploy for pushing toxic vaccinations on insecure

young mothers. Surely, you as her mom are the best judge of whether your

child is developing normally, you don't need a " professional " to weigh and

measure your child (you can do that yourself!) or a reassuring pat on the

back confirming that you are a " good li'l mom " . You already KNOW that! There

is absolutely no need whatsoever to express anything " diplomatically " to the

good doc. YOU are the ultimate decision-maker when it comes to the health

and well-being of your child, you have the RIGHT to decide whether or not to

vaccinate your child. Period! If the " learned " friend doesn't like it - too

bad. Tell him to take a hike and find another doctor.

Please folks, develop a backbone and exercise your rights and above all

don't allow yourself to be intimidated!

By the way, my UNVACCINATED grandchildren in California (6 years and 19

months old) haven't been taken to any " well visit " since the day they were

born.

Referring to your previous mail, Karla, regarding the school physical - when

my daughter enroled in school recently, she handed them the

vaccination exemption and also crossed out the " physical examination " clause

and wrote in bold letters underneath " NOT WITHOUT MY PRIOR CONSENT " .

Ingrid

I am taking my daughter to her 4 month " well visit " on friday. I am

looking for ideas to concisely and diplomaticaly express to the doctor

that I do not want my daughter vaccinated, maybe a good fact sheet to

print out or some choice wording to express my concerns. I have looked

at so much information that it is difficult to choose a couple of

talking points to convey my thoughts, especially to a pediatrician who

is prepared for these encounters. Any feedback is greatly appreciated

------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

I agree 100%. My son will never visit another doctor for a " check-up " . Everything they do there, I can do at home, with much more intuition. Doctors have always made me uneasy since I was a child and I never knew why. Well now I know.

On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 4:12 AM, Ingrid Blank <enb1@...> wrote:

Is there any particular reason for taking your child for a " well visit " ,

which is merely another ploy for pushing toxic vaccinations on insecure

young mothers. Surely, you as her mom are the best judge of whether your

child is developing normally, you don't need a " professional " to weigh and

measure your child (you can do that yourself!) or a reassuring pat on the

back confirming that you are a " good li'l mom " . You already KNOW that! There

is absolutely no need whatsoever to express anything " diplomatically " to the

good doc. YOU are the ultimate decision-maker when it comes to the health

and well-being of your child, you have the RIGHT to decide whether or not to

vaccinate your child. Period! If the " learned " friend doesn't like it - too

bad. Tell him to take a hike and find another doctor.

Please folks, develop a backbone and exercise your rights and above all

don't allow yourself to be intimidated!

By the way, my UNVACCINATED grandchildren in California (6 years and 19

months old) haven't been taken to any " well visit " since the day they were

born.

Referring to your previous mail, Karla, regarding the school physical - when

my daughter enroled in school recently, she handed them the

vaccination exemption and also crossed out the " physical examination " clause

and wrote in bold letters underneath " NOT WITHOUT MY PRIOR CONSENT " .

Ingrid

I am taking my daughter to her 4 month " well visit " on friday. I am

looking for ideas to concisely and diplomaticaly express to the doctor

that I do not want my daughter vaccinated, maybe a good fact sheet to

print out or some choice wording to express my concerns. I have looked

at so much information that it is difficult to choose a couple of

talking points to convey my thoughts, especially to a pediatrician who

is prepared for these encounters. Any feedback is greatly appreciated

------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

I agree 100%. My son will never visit another doctor for a " check-up " . Everything they do there, I can do at home, with much more intuition. Doctors have always made me uneasy since I was a child and I never knew why. Well now I know.

On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 4:12 AM, Ingrid Blank <enb1@...> wrote:

Is there any particular reason for taking your child for a " well visit " ,

which is merely another ploy for pushing toxic vaccinations on insecure

young mothers. Surely, you as her mom are the best judge of whether your

child is developing normally, you don't need a " professional " to weigh and

measure your child (you can do that yourself!) or a reassuring pat on the

back confirming that you are a " good li'l mom " . You already KNOW that! There

is absolutely no need whatsoever to express anything " diplomatically " to the

good doc. YOU are the ultimate decision-maker when it comes to the health

and well-being of your child, you have the RIGHT to decide whether or not to

vaccinate your child. Period! If the " learned " friend doesn't like it - too

bad. Tell him to take a hike and find another doctor.

Please folks, develop a backbone and exercise your rights and above all

don't allow yourself to be intimidated!

By the way, my UNVACCINATED grandchildren in California (6 years and 19

months old) haven't been taken to any " well visit " since the day they were

born.

Referring to your previous mail, Karla, regarding the school physical - when

my daughter enroled in school recently, she handed them the

vaccination exemption and also crossed out the " physical examination " clause

and wrote in bold letters underneath " NOT WITHOUT MY PRIOR CONSENT " .

Ingrid

I am taking my daughter to her 4 month " well visit " on friday. I am

looking for ideas to concisely and diplomaticaly express to the doctor

that I do not want my daughter vaccinated, maybe a good fact sheet to

print out or some choice wording to express my concerns. I have looked

at so much information that it is difficult to choose a couple of

talking points to convey my thoughts, especially to a pediatrician who

is prepared for these encounters. Any feedback is greatly appreciated

------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

I have found that a fact sheet or any attempt to " convince " your

health care provider of your ideas is a waste of time. Remember that

the allopaths are being educated out the wazoo by lackeys of the

insurance/pharmaceutical industry. Many things that used to be taught

in medical schools (like how to handle certain birth presentations)

are no longer even mentioned or touched upon by medical schools any

longer - as per the influence of insurance. There is, to date, ZERO

med schools in the US which require even ONE course in nutrition for

its students to graduate.

In addition, if you see any sign of advertisement by pharmas in your

Dr's office (note pads with drugs embossed on each sheet, pens or

pencils with the names of companies - more often antibiotics and other

drugs), then you HAVE to assume that the office is being plied with

temptations and constant brain washing from drug companies on a

regular basis. It is not uncommon for formula companies to present

doctors and their staffs with trips to Aruba for cases of formula

given to new mothers over the course of a year.

Frequently the pharma representative is as much a presence in the

office as the " paid " staff.

I have found (21 years of 4 unvaccinated children) that the best

approach is to show an objective face. To ask for the inserts to each

and every vaccine offered, and to respond with something like, " Thank

you for this information. I'll give all my options careful

consideration. "

The above is IF you choose to continue with allopathic care and need

to navigate those waters to sift out what you actually want to

purchase from those providers.

By the time my 21 year old daughter was 6 years old, we'd fired our

pediatrician, worked occasionally with a very elderly MD who still

made house calls, and primarily with a Native American healer.

We've needed to navigate allopathy on the couple of occasions that

we've had a broken bone or needed more stitches than I could do myself

(yes - I've stitched my own kids on several instances).

An on those few occasions, the above polite but firm attitude sufficed.

You will NEVER get a friendly open minded attitude from any mainstream

provider once you state your position, but you CAN keep things polite

if you don't challenge their ideas or try to convince them of yours.

MY OPINION, THOUGH!

Best of luck,

Theresa

On Oct 22, 2008, at 1:30 AM, danritter1980 wrote:

> I am taking my daughter to her 4 month " well visit " on friday. I am

> looking for ideas to concisely and diplomaticaly express to the doctor

> that I do not want my daughter vaccinated, maybe a good fact sheet to

> print out or some choice wording to express my concerns. I have looked

> at so much information that it is difficult to choose a couple of

> talking points to convey my thoughts, especially to a pediatrician who

> is prepared for these encounters. Any feedback is greatly appreciated

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I have found that a fact sheet or any attempt to " convince " your

health care provider of your ideas is a waste of time. Remember that

the allopaths are being educated out the wazoo by lackeys of the

insurance/pharmaceutical industry. Many things that used to be taught

in medical schools (like how to handle certain birth presentations)

are no longer even mentioned or touched upon by medical schools any

longer - as per the influence of insurance. There is, to date, ZERO

med schools in the US which require even ONE course in nutrition for

its students to graduate.

In addition, if you see any sign of advertisement by pharmas in your

Dr's office (note pads with drugs embossed on each sheet, pens or

pencils with the names of companies - more often antibiotics and other

drugs), then you HAVE to assume that the office is being plied with

temptations and constant brain washing from drug companies on a

regular basis. It is not uncommon for formula companies to present

doctors and their staffs with trips to Aruba for cases of formula

given to new mothers over the course of a year.

Frequently the pharma representative is as much a presence in the

office as the " paid " staff.

I have found (21 years of 4 unvaccinated children) that the best

approach is to show an objective face. To ask for the inserts to each

and every vaccine offered, and to respond with something like, " Thank

you for this information. I'll give all my options careful

consideration. "

The above is IF you choose to continue with allopathic care and need

to navigate those waters to sift out what you actually want to

purchase from those providers.

By the time my 21 year old daughter was 6 years old, we'd fired our

pediatrician, worked occasionally with a very elderly MD who still

made house calls, and primarily with a Native American healer.

We've needed to navigate allopathy on the couple of occasions that

we've had a broken bone or needed more stitches than I could do myself

(yes - I've stitched my own kids on several instances).

An on those few occasions, the above polite but firm attitude sufficed.

You will NEVER get a friendly open minded attitude from any mainstream

provider once you state your position, but you CAN keep things polite

if you don't challenge their ideas or try to convince them of yours.

MY OPINION, THOUGH!

Best of luck,

Theresa

On Oct 22, 2008, at 1:30 AM, danritter1980 wrote:

> I am taking my daughter to her 4 month " well visit " on friday. I am

> looking for ideas to concisely and diplomaticaly express to the doctor

> that I do not want my daughter vaccinated, maybe a good fact sheet to

> print out or some choice wording to express my concerns. I have looked

> at so much information that it is difficult to choose a couple of

> talking points to convey my thoughts, especially to a pediatrician who

> is prepared for these encounters. Any feedback is greatly appreciated

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I have found that a fact sheet or any attempt to " convince " your

health care provider of your ideas is a waste of time. Remember that

the allopaths are being educated out the wazoo by lackeys of the

insurance/pharmaceutical industry. Many things that used to be taught

in medical schools (like how to handle certain birth presentations)

are no longer even mentioned or touched upon by medical schools any

longer - as per the influence of insurance. There is, to date, ZERO

med schools in the US which require even ONE course in nutrition for

its students to graduate.

In addition, if you see any sign of advertisement by pharmas in your

Dr's office (note pads with drugs embossed on each sheet, pens or

pencils with the names of companies - more often antibiotics and other

drugs), then you HAVE to assume that the office is being plied with

temptations and constant brain washing from drug companies on a

regular basis. It is not uncommon for formula companies to present

doctors and their staffs with trips to Aruba for cases of formula

given to new mothers over the course of a year.

Frequently the pharma representative is as much a presence in the

office as the " paid " staff.

I have found (21 years of 4 unvaccinated children) that the best

approach is to show an objective face. To ask for the inserts to each

and every vaccine offered, and to respond with something like, " Thank

you for this information. I'll give all my options careful

consideration. "

The above is IF you choose to continue with allopathic care and need

to navigate those waters to sift out what you actually want to

purchase from those providers.

By the time my 21 year old daughter was 6 years old, we'd fired our

pediatrician, worked occasionally with a very elderly MD who still

made house calls, and primarily with a Native American healer.

We've needed to navigate allopathy on the couple of occasions that

we've had a broken bone or needed more stitches than I could do myself

(yes - I've stitched my own kids on several instances).

An on those few occasions, the above polite but firm attitude sufficed.

You will NEVER get a friendly open minded attitude from any mainstream

provider once you state your position, but you CAN keep things polite

if you don't challenge their ideas or try to convince them of yours.

MY OPINION, THOUGH!

Best of luck,

Theresa

On Oct 22, 2008, at 1:30 AM, danritter1980 wrote:

> I am taking my daughter to her 4 month " well visit " on friday. I am

> looking for ideas to concisely and diplomaticaly express to the doctor

> that I do not want my daughter vaccinated, maybe a good fact sheet to

> print out or some choice wording to express my concerns. I have looked

> at so much information that it is difficult to choose a couple of

> talking points to convey my thoughts, especially to a pediatrician who

> is prepared for these encounters. Any feedback is greatly appreciated

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I have found that a fact sheet or any attempt to " convince " your

health care provider of your ideas is a waste of time. Remember that

the allopaths are being educated out the wazoo by lackeys of the

insurance/pharmaceutical industry. Many things that used to be taught

in medical schools (like how to handle certain birth presentations)

are no longer even mentioned or touched upon by medical schools any

longer - as per the influence of insurance. There is, to date, ZERO

med schools in the US which require even ONE course in nutrition for

its students to graduate.

In addition, if you see any sign of advertisement by pharmas in your

Dr's office (note pads with drugs embossed on each sheet, pens or

pencils with the names of companies - more often antibiotics and other

drugs), then you HAVE to assume that the office is being plied with

temptations and constant brain washing from drug companies on a

regular basis. It is not uncommon for formula companies to present

doctors and their staffs with trips to Aruba for cases of formula

given to new mothers over the course of a year.

Frequently the pharma representative is as much a presence in the

office as the " paid " staff.

I have found (21 years of 4 unvaccinated children) that the best

approach is to show an objective face. To ask for the inserts to each

and every vaccine offered, and to respond with something like, " Thank

you for this information. I'll give all my options careful

consideration. "

The above is IF you choose to continue with allopathic care and need

to navigate those waters to sift out what you actually want to

purchase from those providers.

By the time my 21 year old daughter was 6 years old, we'd fired our

pediatrician, worked occasionally with a very elderly MD who still

made house calls, and primarily with a Native American healer.

We've needed to navigate allopathy on the couple of occasions that

we've had a broken bone or needed more stitches than I could do myself

(yes - I've stitched my own kids on several instances).

An on those few occasions, the above polite but firm attitude sufficed.

You will NEVER get a friendly open minded attitude from any mainstream

provider once you state your position, but you CAN keep things polite

if you don't challenge their ideas or try to convince them of yours.

MY OPINION, THOUGH!

Best of luck,

Theresa

On Oct 22, 2008, at 1:30 AM, danritter1980 wrote:

> I am taking my daughter to her 4 month " well visit " on friday. I am

> looking for ideas to concisely and diplomaticaly express to the doctor

> that I do not want my daughter vaccinated, maybe a good fact sheet to

> print out or some choice wording to express my concerns. I have looked

> at so much information that it is difficult to choose a couple of

> talking points to convey my thoughts, especially to a pediatrician who

> is prepared for these encounters. Any feedback is greatly appreciated

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you Monika.

I am so glad to hear that I am not the only one who doesn't do "check-ups" per say. I have gut feelings when things aren't right with my kids. Or if there is something I can't handle. We go to the doctor. I do not withhold medical care for my kids to avoid an argument. But with being so inquisitive and learning, there is so much I can handle and don't depend on someone else to tell me what I know. I never ever jeoperdize my girls health to prove a point. They come first ALWAYS. I don't let them push me around but I do listen to what they say.

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