Balance

[Guest guest]

Last month I changed my primary physician. The new Dr. sent me to a new

neurologist and a physiatrist. I am also going to PT and OT three times a

week, never went before. In PT one of the things we are working on is my

balance, along with strengthening exercises. Incredibly, after a month my

balance started to improve. I can stand on one foot not holding on to

anything for a few seconds, and other stuff started improving as well.

In OT I do finger exercises, paraffin bath, and am getting a splint for

sleeping to prevent contractures. I pay $15.00 a visit, go to both on the

same day for the $15.00, an hour each. I think I see an improvement and I

feel better, also can walk better.

Joan

[Guest guest]

Joan, that's great. Out of curiosity, how do they " work on " your

balance? Balance is my one big problem.

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From: jsheliko@... [mailto:jsheliko@...]

Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 9:58 AM

Subject: Re: balance

Last month I changed my primary physician. The new Dr. sent me to a new

neurologist and a physiatrist. I am also going to PT and OT three times

a

week, never went before. In PT one of the things we are working on is

my

balance, along with strengthening exercises. Incredibly, after a month

my

balance started to improve. I can stand on one foot not holding on to

anything for a few seconds, and other stuff started improving as well.

In OT I do finger exercises, paraffin bath, and am getting a splint for

sleeping to prevent contractures. I pay $15.00 a visit, go to both on

the

same day for the $15.00, an hour each. I think I see an improvement and

I

feel better, also can walk better.

Joan

[Guest guest]

I was laughing to myself when the Dr. said I was going to have balance

training. I haven't had good balance since I started walking 64 years ago.

The exercises for balance are done at a bar in front of a mirror. There is

marching, moving one foot at a time side to side, kicks backward and hold for

20 seconds, lunge forward and back, and side to side, others that I usually

don't remember, and standing on one foot for increased lengths of time, also

letting go of the bar for increased lengths of times, and weights on the

ankles that keep increasing.

There are also exercises done on a raised mat, and the PT said I am going to

learn how to get up from a fall. I didn't try that yet. I work out for an

hour. I also use the tread mill and the bike. The first week I was having

bad muscle spasms but now I don't. Actually, I feel good when I leave, very

loose. I got a referral from my HMO and they told me I am making good

progress and can get a referral for more sessions.

I probably can do the exercises at home but it is more fun(?) to be with

others.

Joan

[Guest guest]

I too have trouble with balance in the dark, not so good with balance in the

light either. Interestingly, I find if I am in the dark at a place I know

well, I do not have a problem. Example, I turn my bedroom light off and I can

easily walk across the room to my bed since I have been doing that for many

years. Also I can walk in my garage after parking my car. And that floor is

very uneven. My feet and brain seem to know where to go.

Joan

[Guest guest]

Anyone with balance issues - is your balance problem due to ankle

problems or feet problems? Mine is feet, and we have been working hard

with the muscles in my feet, especially the right one, and also the

right leg. Aquatic exercises in this regard have really helped.

~ Gretchen

[Guest guest]

Since standing itself is no problem, I assumed it was the AFOs. Since I

have trouble just standing without touching anything and have no problem

at all as long as I'm at least touching a wall or counter or something,

I assumed it was the AFOs preventing my toes from making those tiny

adjustments to maintain balance. But that's a guess.

Jacques

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[Guest guest]

Poor balance is often associated with CMT. People nickname themselves Wobbly,

Lurch, and so forth, due to their instability. Many CMTers report that they

have to " wall walk " or touch furniture or walls as they walk, and definitely

have to be touching something when they are trying to stand still. I don't

have AFOs, but I am one of those who has to be touching, or even leaning on

something in order to stand in one place.

Most CMTers report having much better balance with AFOs or other orthotics.

My progressively poor balance doesn't seem to have to do with my feet or

ankles. They are strong, and I still have my calf muscles. I'm not sure

what's causing my poor balance, but for me, even gentle exercise is too much.

Perhaps if I were younger it would be different, although I know of teenagers

who have problems if they overdo, also. I move and walk a lot, but I don't

attempt " exercises " as such because even gentle exercises cause my symptoms

to progress dramatically. I know some kinds of exercise do help many other

CMTers.

It's remarkable how different we all are and how we are affected by a variety

of things.

Kat

Seattle USA

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KathleenLS@...

[Guest guest]

Hi Adina,

My balance was off and on for a full week following my original surgery to

remove c-toma. My doc said the swelling is what causes it (usually - unless

there is somethng else going on). I just had reconstruction done again (my

first slipped) on Jan 9th and vertigo still hits if I turn/move too fast.

The packing never made much difference in my balance. Mine doesn't hurt but

I can feel it in there. See my doc in 3 weeks.

Jane

>From: " adinahall " <adinahall@...>

>Reply-cholesteatoma

>cholesteatoma

>Subject: Balance

>Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 05:08:31 -0000

>

>Hi there,

>

>I've just had an operation to remove a c-toma (January 5th, 2004).

>My sense of balance is not good when I stand up and walk. Does

>anybody know how long it usually takes for balance to return to

>normal after the operation? Also, is balance any better once the

>packing in the ear is removed?

>

>Thanks,

>Adina

>

>

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[Guest guest]

tell your son congratulations. I love hearing good things about CMT. Cathleen

in Arkansas

[Guest guest]

Deb, speaking for myself, I would say this is certainly what I mean by balance.

The worst occasions for me are having to traverse a large group of people

(particularly if I am required to stope for any reason) and awakening in a dark

bedroom and having to find the restroom. I am disoriented almost to the point

of desperation in these two situations.

[Guest guest]

Hi

It's disconcerting - an awful experience! First, I think you have to have him checked out to see that there is not a recurrence of ctoma, or some damage caued by the TORP becoming displaced.

It is possible be that he has a fistula which are said to occur in about 10 or 20% ctomas. That can mean there is some kind of crack or erosion in the plate of bone that seperates the middle ear from the organ of balance. It's organ that is so supersensitive that it tends to mean any tiny movement of air in the middle ear sends your balance haywire. But there are other explanations - a tear in the round window (membrane leading to the inner ear) or a infection of the balance fluid (labyrinthitis) will have much the same effect. Some of these will heal themselves in time.

Often the best thing one can do is to rest as much as possible. The spinning and nausea and headaches associated with vertigo do not last indefinitely because eventually ones brain adjusts and compensates for the disturbance. One may still feel off-balance and unco-ordinated at times, especially when tired, moving around too much or in crowded or high places but essentially the worst of it passes.

Some doctors will prescribe medication which will effectively suppress brain activity and relieve symptoms. The drawback is that if the balance is a longer term issue then also impedes ones natural ability to adjust. It may be something to ask a doctor about.

It's very difficult in the beginning but there are various exercises and tactics one can use in order to help retrain ones balance. You'll get an idea of what I mean if you read up on how balance functions and how you can work with it i.e.

http://www.pneuro.com/publications/dizzy/

....just out of interest (it may not be approapriate) here is some information on fistulas. Mostly covers the membrane kind but also mentions bone kind which is more usual in ctoma

http://www.tchain.com/otoneurology/disorders/unilat/fistula.html

I hope he recovers soon

Phil

From: Behr

cholesteatoma

Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 11:09 PM

Subject: balance

Hi everyone,My son (age 16) is having a terrible time with balance. He has to grabonto something while walking across the room or when he stands up & sitsdown. Headaches are going along with it. This has been occurring for thepast 4-6 weeks and simply not getting any better.He in finished with surgeries and has the titanium prosthesis in hisaffected ear.We are desperate for any suggestions.Thanks!!

[Guest guest]

> Hi everyone,

>

> My son (age 16) is having a terrible time with balance. He has

to grab

> onto something while walking across the room or when he stands up &

sits

> down. Headaches are going along with it. This has been occurring

for the

> past 4-6 weeks and simply not getting any better.

>

> He in finished with surgeries and has the titanium prosthesis in his

> affected ear.

>

> We are desperate for any suggestions.

>

> Thanks!!

>

Hi , I hope he gets better. How long ago was his surgery? The

reason I ask is because I felt so dizzy and off balance after my 2nd

C-toma removal in which they replaced my ear bones. I have battled it

on and off for almost 2 years and have had 4 more surgeries since. My

last surgery was Oct 1st and they finally did a CWD, so hopefully it

will get rid of my off balance feeling forever.Dr thought that the

fake ear bone was causing too much pressure and making me dizzy so he

took it out on the 3rd surgery. Since then I improve a little bit

after each surgery. Ask your dr if this could be happening to him.

Best of luck to your son, Charla

[Guest guest]

Larry,

I think this would be an *excellent* topic for a thesis! I recently posed a

question to an e-mail list for people who work in the field of O & M. I asked

if echo location was possible with a CI. Many of the responses I received

indicated that while it may be possible, there have been no studies done to

support or deny this claim.

You mentioned that you'd like to get out there and do some public speaking

about your CI. Good for you!! Perhaps you might also consider working with

mobility instructors in general to help them understand how to teach

deafblind clients who use a CI? You could attend O & M conferences and speak

about how a CI has benefited your life and how it influences your ability to

travel. This information would be invaluable to the O & M field since so

little is known about how CIs affect a deafblind person's ability to

travel -- particularly someone who is totally blind. You may be the very

person who increases this general awareness! Gosh...I see so many doors of

opportunity opening for you Larry!! I'm so excited for you!! <hugs>

Surgery date: 12/22/04 (19 days and counting!)

Activation date: 1/18/05

[Guest guest]

A better word is modulate or balance, when you give you body what it needs

it will not attack it self, it will recognize virus and bacteria and cancer

and therefore is stronger in its defense, stronger in repairing and stronger

in restoring. Proper cellular communication will cause the body to kill

bacteria without the use of antibiotics, that is what it was designed to do.

If our bodies did not do this everyday over and over many times you and I

would already be dead.

-- [ ] a dum move

anyone who thinks that " strengthening " the body when they have an

autoimmune reation to lyme is right is wrong as per my doctor... think

about this

if my body is attacking itself then why would i want to strengthen my

immune system..so it can do more damage..you must first kill the

bacteria at a slow rate and then build...see what i mean...

eric

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 10/09/2005 9:38:44 PM US Mountain Standard Time,

morningsunranch@... writes:

> A better word is modulate or balance, when you give you body what it needs

> it will not attack it self, it will recognize virus and bacteria and cancer

> and therefore is stronger in its defense, stronger in repairing and stronger

> in restoring. Proper cellular communication will cause the body to kill

> bacteria without the use of antibiotics, that is what it was designed to do.

> If our bodies did not do this everyday over and over many times you and I

> would already be dead.

>

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Kathy,

When I was so sick years ago with many auto immune illness, I kept hearing

that my immune system was overactive. To me that seemed like a good thing,

and so I did not understand why I was so sick with infections all the time.

None of my doctors could explain even the basics to me. Then I bought a

video called " out side the box " it explained in very simple terms how the

immune system works. Last night the doctor again explained this to me and it

makes so much sense.

\Basically there are different type cells that are part of the immune system

They each have a very specific job and in order to carry out their jobs

they must be perfectly formed. There are killer cells that target and

destroy foreign invaders like cancer, virus, bacteria, fungus. Then there

are helper cells that go around and help the cells in need. There are

surpressor cells that tell the killer cells when to stop killing the cancer,

bacteria, etc. There are scout cells that cruise around everywhere and then

alert the necessary other cells that will need to take action.There are also

stem cells which can morph into any kind of cell. These are not the

technical names but names they gave them to keep it simple. So when the

cells of our body become deficient in cell food, things like plant nutrients

essential fatty acids, vitamins, minerals, etc., etc., then the cells are

not formed properly and are basically defective. So now cancer starts to

grow and the killer cells don't even know it. Or like with Auto immune the

killer cells are attacking, but there are no surpressor cells to tell it to

stop and they just keep on attacking. The whole communication system goes

haywire. If you can get your immune system regulated, and get each cell

formed properly so that they can each have their unique Glycoproteins which

they use to talk, then things can run smoothly. The science of Glycobiology

explains this function that happens at the cell level.

Anyway, I hope that helps you understand why your immune system is revved up

but that is a bad thing, and has to be down regulated in order to function

properly.

-- [ ] Re: a dum move

I don't think that is totally true. When I was at the Mayo Clinic

they said that an autoimmune disease has the same effect as if you

floored the gas peddle on your car and held it there. Eventually

something is going to give. I've been sick 19 years and I have several

autoimmune diseases, but I still catch everything that's going around

and it takes me longer then everyone else to recover. From what I've

read on lyme it's very important to support the immune system.

Kathy

[Guest guest]

I'm not taking immune stimulants. I take things to support the

immune system. I take fish oil, magnesium, calcium, vitamin D,

easter C, CoQ10, a really good muli vitamin, ginger root,

guaifenesin, and lots of pro-biotics. I feel much better on the

supplements then without. I get MUCH fewer colds too it I stay on

them.

Kathy

>

> Kathy,

>

> When I was so sick years ago with many auto immune illness, I kept

hearing

> that my immune system was overactive. To me that seemed like a

good thing,

> and so I did not understand why I was so sick with infections all

the time.

> None of my doctors could explain even the basics to me. Then I

bought a

> video called " out side the box " it explained in very simple terms

how the

> immune system works. Last night the doctor again explained this to

me and it

> makes so much sense.

>

> \Basically there are different type cells that are part of the

immune system

> They each have a very specific job and in order to carry out

their jobs

> they must be perfectly formed. There are killer cells that target

and

> destroy foreign invaders like cancer, virus, bacteria, fungus.

Then there

> are helper cells that go around and help the cells in need. There

are

> surpressor cells that tell the killer cells when to stop killing

the cancer,

> bacteria, etc. There are scout cells that cruise around everywhere

and then

> alert the necessary other cells that will need to take

action.There are also

> stem cells which can morph into any kind of cell. These are not

the

> technical names but names they gave them to keep it simple. So

when the

> cells of our body become deficient in cell food, things like plant

nutrients

> essential fatty acids, vitamins, minerals, etc., etc., then the

cells are

> not formed properly and are basically defective. So now cancer

starts to

> grow and the killer cells don't even know it. Or like with Auto

immune the

> killer cells are attacking, but there are no surpressor cells to

tell it to

> stop and they just keep on attacking. The whole communication

system goes

> haywire. If you can get your immune system regulated, and get each

cell

> formed properly so that they can each have their unique

Glycoproteins which

> they use to talk, then things can run smoothly. The science of

Glycobiology

> explains this function that happens at the cell level.

>

> Anyway, I hope that helps you understand why your immune system is

revved up

> but that is a bad thing, and has to be down regulated in order to

function

> properly.

>

> -- [ ] Re: a dum move

>

> I don't think that is totally true. When I was at the Mayo Clinic

> they said that an autoimmune disease has the same effect as if you

> floored the gas peddle on your car and held it there. Eventually

> something is going to give. I've been sick 19 years and I have

several

> autoimmune diseases, but I still catch everything that's going

around

> and it takes me longer then everyone else to recover. From what

I've

> read on lyme it's very important to support the immune system.

>

> Kathy

>

>

[Guest guest]

the autoimmune did not stop untill after i took

antibiotics for a long time..whlolistic made it worse

for trying to kill the spirochete as it did not and I

wasted alot of time..

eric

--- " Kindscher (Charter) "

<morningsunranch@...> wrote:

> A better word is modulate or balance, when you give

> you body what it needs

> it will not attack it self, it will recognize virus

> and bacteria and cancer

> and therefore is stronger in its defense, stronger

> in repairing and stronger

> in restoring. Proper cellular communication will

> cause the body to kill

> bacteria without the use of antibiotics, that is

> what it was designed to do.

> If our bodies did not do this everyday over and over

> many times you and I

> would already be dead.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Kathy,

That is good you are taking so much stuff. I have been taught that it is

best not to use single nutrients, meaning just Vitamin C or Just Vitamin E.

Unless you have had tests to confirm those deficiencies, it is best to

supplement with synergistic blends. Things in nature are never by

themselves, like an orange does not just have vitamin C. Things work better

when they have other co-factors to help them be utilized. Try adding a good

antioxidant formula, and some plant sterols for your hormones, and plant

sugars for your cells and you will have a more complete program. Here is the

list again of what our bodies need every day and what for.

EFA's build cell membrane, (high quality, safety tested fish oils)

aminos build protein, enzymes and hormones

vitamins/minerals, are for energy molocules

phyto chemicals are to get free radicals out, bad toxins (crucifix greens,

green tea,quercetin)

phytogenins-balance hormones (yam root)

saccarides are for building the cell messeage molocules

-- [ ] Re: balance

I'm not taking immune stimulants. I take things to support the

immune system. I take fish oil, magnesium, calcium, vitamin D,

easter C, CoQ10, a really good muli vitamin, ginger root,

guaifenesin, and lots of pro-biotics. I feel much better on the

supplements then without. I get MUCH fewer colds too it I stay on

them.

Kathy

[Guest guest]

Hi Roy yes I figured you were doing good. We got it bad here in MI. to today we

had 4 " of snow. It's good to hear from you and to see your doing so good.

Phil

Roy <chickenbirdtree@...> wrote:

Hi Phil,

I haven't been here for awhile but wanted you to know that I am

still alive and kicking. I must have my hornomes in balance

pretty well as any time I take cialis I have morning erections

and and can use it too.

We had a terrible ice storm and I have spent days working on that

problem. We are in the southwest corner of Missouri so

we got it bad. Our yard is full of tree limbs yet. Will

have to have someone younger than I to get them.

Blessings,

Roy

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Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast

with the Search weather shortcut.

[Guest guest]

Sounds like great news. Morning errections that you can use and an ice storm to

keep you inside sounds like an ideal situation to me.

Roy <chickenbirdtree@...> wrote:

Hi Phil,

I haven't been here for awhile but wanted you to know that I am

still alive and kicking. I must have my hornomes in balance

pretty well as any time I take cialis I have morning erections

and and can use it too.

We had a terrible ice storm and I have spent days working on that

problem. We are in the southwest corner of Missouri so

we got it bad. Our yard is full of tree limbs yet. Will

have to have someone younger than I to get them.

Blessings,

Roy

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[Guest guest]

Larry he is in his 80's making us all look bad. You go Roy.

Phil

Larry Larry <tired_old_fart@...> wrote:

Sounds like great news. Morning errections that you can use and an ice

storm to keep you inside sounds like an ideal situation to me.

Roy <chickenbirdtree@...> wrote:

Hi Phil,

I haven't been here for awhile but wanted you to know that I am

still alive and kicking. I must have my hornomes in balance

pretty well as any time I take cialis I have morning erections

and and can use it too.

We had a terrible ice storm and I have spent days working on that

problem. We are in the southwest corner of Missouri so

we got it bad. Our yard is full of tree limbs yet. Will

have to have someone younger than I to get them.

Blessings,

Roy

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[Guest guest]

Thanks for the update. What I notice with people who switch over to

eating healthy is there does seem to be a period of weight gain as if

the body is trying to adjust to having proper nutrients, like it's

hoarding them for a future time where the person will return to

unhealthy food. I think the body gets the picture and then there is

weight loss/gain (whatever is desired) and then people can make small

changes and update their diet. I think cravings are an important

clue, I'm not saying to what, just that they are an important clue. I

knew this one heavy guy who made changes and it took almost a year to

see changes and then he dropped some weight in a timely fashion. He

was also over-training which is the commonest of mistakes in the gym

and it seems crappy eating and overtraining go hand in hand which is

ironic, don't you think.

--- In , " " <jcdambrosio@...>

wrote:

>

> Well, I figured it's time for an update on my progress. In case

some

> of you have forgotten, I was a raw vegan for a period of time and

lost

> too much weight and couldn't put any muscle or weight back on with

the

> raw vegan diet so did a bunch of research and found the WAPF site

and

> did the reading there, bought a few books and jumped into that with

> both feet. Unfortunately, I didn't monitor calories and ended up

> putting on over 20 pounds over the course of 5 months, most of which

> wasn't muscle.

>

> From there I continued to follow the WAPF principles but in a low

> carbohydrate protocol WHILE monitoring caloric intake. This

> definitely helped me, and my shape began to improve with a loss of

fat

> along with muscle gain. As I combined two principles at once I'm

not

> sure which was the most help - tracking calories so as not to

overeat

> and going low carbohydrate.

>

> I'm at the point now where I still have a few pounds to lose but I

> really miss the fruits I used to eat regularly. I'm going to keep

my

> fat and protein intake high but add in fruits here and there as

well.

> With the low carbohydrate diet, I ate vegetables and did have some

> fruit but ONLY post-workout. Most of my meals were meats, eggs,

fish

> with a small salad if anything. I did keep drinking raw milk

despite

> what was recommended by the low carbohydrate bodybuilding groups

> because of health reasons.

>

> It always seems to come back to balance. One extreme was the raw

> vegan and the other was the low carbohydrate. The Weston A. Price

> eating style was balanced but since I didn't monitor calories and

> ended up eating way more than I was supposed to, that ended up being

> extreme as well, but calorie-wise and not macro-nutrient wise.

>

> Just thought I'd let everyone know where I am today and my thinking

> behind it. Any thoughts or opinions on this would be appreciated!

>

> Thanks in advance!

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

...Just thought I'd let everyone know where I am today and my thinking

> behind it. Any thoughts or opinions on this would be appreciated!

> ,

Wow, so you feel you've reached a balance? Good for you! That was a

quick turnaround, too.

So how did you end up tweaking the diet? What did you cut out,

besides all the coconut oil? Did you ever make pemmican? Did you

stick with two meals/day? what are your macro levels now, and did you

get into any interval training? I think it was locking down the

calories that served you in the end.

Lately I'm experimenting with post-workout liquid carbs.

Thanks for turning me on to Colpo's site, I enjoy it. What do

you think about this video report he posted on steroid use?

http://www.dailymotion.com/related/1946654/video/xkvz7_steroids/1

It was interesting to me. I was shocked, SHOCKED, I tell you, when I

became aware of holding opinions on this subject about which I

actually knew...nothing.

B.

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

My turnaround was fairly quick, considering, but like I said, I still do have a

few more pounds to go. I haven't weighed or checked body fat percentage, just

gone by looks. I am very happy with my progress so far.

I ended up tweaking the diet by adding more whole foods, less shakes, cutting

back on coconut oil (from 6-8 T a day to 0-1 T a day - a drop in at least 800

calories a day since I was overestimating a T by eyeballing it. I thought I was

taking 3 T but in actuality it was double to triple that ) and a large cutback

in carbohydrates but the real biggie, I believe, was tracking calories

accurately (coconut oil). I keep them between 2100 and 2600 calories a day now.

I had assumed I could go as high as 3500 before, since that's what I was eating

and not gaining weight when I was raw vegan but that didn't fly when I added

proteins and fats into the mix, not to mention the additional unaccounted for

coconut oil calories.

I've found that eating 2-3 times a day works great for me so I'm sticking with

it. My caloric breakdown seems to fluctuate slightly but it's usually 50-30-20,

FPC. There can some variation between the fat and protein levels but that's a

fair snapshot.

I also have liquid post-workout carbs and protein. Usually a cup of water, a

scoop of protein powder and 3 T of maple syrup all mixed together. It works out

much better for me than the solid post workout meal I was having previously.

I haven't jumped into interval training yet as far as aerobics go but plan on

maybe doing that once a week with running.

I watched the steroid video and was blown away by what was said there. I'm sure

that things could be worse than the way they were presented, but not as harmful

as has been touted previously. Haha, it hasn't caused me any desire to start

taking them myself, but maybe when I hit 70 my opinions will change!

If there were some definite health benefits to them that's one thing, but for

more muscle and the feeling of well being, which could be psychological,

doesn't, at least at this point in my life, outweigh the health risks such as

the cholesterol and cardiac issues.

I hope this answered all of your questions!

downwardog7 <illneverbecool@...> wrote:

...Just thought I'd let everyone know where I am today and my thinking

> behind it. Any thoughts or opinions on this would be appreciated!

> ,

Wow, so you feel you've reached a balance? Good for you! That was a

quick turnaround, too.

So how did you end up tweaking the diet? What did you cut out,

besides all the coconut oil? Did you ever make pemmican? Did you

stick with two meals/day? what are your macro levels now, and did you

get into any interval training? I think it was locking down the

calories that served you in the end.

Lately I'm experimenting with post-workout liquid carbs.

Thanks for turning me on to Colpo's site, I enjoy it. What do

you think about this video report he posted on steroid use?

http://www.dailymotion.com/related/1946654/video/xkvz7_steroids/1

It was interesting to me. I was shocked, SHOCKED, I tell you, when I

became aware of holding opinions on this subject about which I

actually knew...nothing.

B.

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