Vaccination

January 28, 2006

Golly I hope this will go through to you all - an article in our recent

newspaper here in Ontario by a man being touted as " Dr. Vaccination " ...

January 28, 2006

I see it didn't go through ...the short and not so sweet of the article

states that a Doctor at York Central Hospital north of Toronto is being

touted as " Dr Vacccination " because after his Daugther contracted pne.

meningitis and was left deaf he went on a mission to help the Province (and

all other Provinces in our country) offer, free of charge, the Prevnar

vaccination to all children in the routine immunization program. The

article provides stats too.

Would someone please let me know - does Prevnar still contain mercury in it?

Thanks Tania

Ontario, Canada

Fw: Vaccination

> Golly I hope this will go through to you all - an article in our recent

> newspaper here in Ontario by a man being touted as " Dr. Vaccination " ...

>

April 24, 2006

When my niece was pregnant, my brother tried to tell her about being careful about vaccinations. When she had the baby and tried to decline the Hep B at the hospital, the nurse told her it was the law! So she let them vaccinate the baby before leaving the hospital. We can only hope my little great niece will be okay.

We are in Texas, and to my knowledge there is no law that says babies must be vaccinated before they leave the hospital. Is there anyone out there who knows for sure? I'd like to write a letter to the hospital concerning this nurse manipulating and threatening my niece.

Haven

April 24, 2006

http://www.vaccineinfo.net/exemptions/index.shtml

Birth Exemptions: http://www.vaclib.org/exempt/texas.htmFor those who are planning a hospital birth but want to evade invasive routine post natal procedures such as a Hep B shot, vitamin K injection, newborn screening, or the application of silver nitrate in the newborn's eyes, a very specific birthing plan must be submitted to the hospital in advance of the birth. Hospital staff must be informed, in advance, of your needs, wants and desires where your baby and birthing experience are concerned. The same applies to midwives.

-----Original Message-----From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ]On Behalf Of HavenSent: Monday, April 24, 2006 11:39 AMEOHarm Subject: Re: Re: vaccination

When my niece was pregnant, my brother tried to tell her about being careful about vaccinations. When she had the baby and tried to decline the Hep B at the hospital, the nurse told her it was the law! So she let them vaccinate the baby before leaving the hospital. We can only hope my little great niece will be okay.

We are in Texas, and to my knowledge there is no law that says babies must be vaccinated before they leave the hospital. Is there anyone out there who knows for sure? I'd like to write a letter to the hospital concerning this nurse manipulating and threatening my niece.

Haven

April 24, 2006

I am in CA and avoided all these things by merely asking. I talked

with my ped. who gave me a Rx for Vita K )oral) which I didn't even

fill)...no hep B here anyway and no eye drops. THey made me feel a

little uncomfortable and I had to keep reminding....but that was it.

Again. Unvaccinated...no Vit K shot no eyes drops...healthiest of

the thre...

>

> http://www.vaccineinfo.net/exemptions/index.shtml

>

> Birth Exemptions: http://www.vaclib.org/exempt/texas.htm

>

> For those who are planning a hospital birth but want to evade

invasive

> routine post natal procedures such as a Hep B shot, vitamin K

injection,

> newborn screening, or the application of silver nitrate in the

newborn's

> eyes, a very specific birthing plan must be submitted to the

hospital in

> advance of the birth. Hospital staff must be informed, in advance,

of your

> needs, wants and desires where your baby and birthing experience are

> concerned. The same applies to midwives.

>

> Re: Re: vaccination

>

> When my niece was pregnant, my brother tried to tell her about

being

> careful about vaccinations. When she had the baby and tried to

decline the

> Hep B at the hospital, the nurse told her it was the law! So she

let them

> vaccinate the baby before leaving the hospital. We can only hope

my little

> great niece will be okay.

>

> We are in Texas, and to my knowledge there is no law that says

babies must

> be vaccinated before they leave the hospital. Is there anyone out

there who

> knows for sure? I'd like to write a letter to the hospital

concerning this

> nurse manipulating and threatening my niece.

>

> Haven

>

August 6, 2008

Eden, Raw milk can be a delivery medium for mycoplasmas that our cows receive when they are injected with contaminated vaccines.How many of us really wish to put our trust in the corporate pharmaceutical industry?Are they more interested in our health or their economic health? http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0ISW/is_2002_Jan/ai_81138258 http://www.whale.to/vaccine/driscoll11.html where does that one death in 8000 figure come from? Has vaccination technology change enough since yesteryear to assure us that it is now safe? I believe that many of us are growing tired of these same old scare tactics without even a feeble attempt at backing them up with honest research. michaelSubject: VaccinationTo: "RawDairy " <RawDairy >Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 10:58 PM

LOL Gordon I said I came late to the discussion, not to RawDairy. I

am aware many proponents of raw dairy eschew vaccination of themselves

and their children.

I wasn't discussing vaccinating my children.

I was discussing vaccinating livestock to protect children. I find one

death out of eight thousand or so livestock and pets vaccinated

acceptable if that gives patents (myself included) peace of mind in a

rabies endemic area. If the animals developed an autism spectrum

disorder or other less dramatic consequence I doubt we would notice.

So my homework is to read a book written about the yesteryear of

vaccination technology, huh?

Yours is to ask the parents of the beautiful daughter who'll never

give them grandchildren after a bout of cervical cancer at the age of

24 if they wished they'd had access to that vaccine when she was twelve.

I wonder if you addressed my post with disproportionate anger and

scorn because you are afraid a medical professional speaking from

personal experience would be listened to?

August 6, 2008

I'll try that again http://www.whale.to/vaccine/driscoll1.html--- Subject: Re: VaccinationTo: RawDairy Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 11:25 PM

Eden, Raw milk can be a delivery medium for mycoplasmas that our cows receive when they are injected with contaminated vaccines.How many of us really wish to put our trust in the corporate pharmaceutical industry?Are they more interested in our health or their economic health? http://findarticles .com/p/articles/ mi_m0ISW/ is_2002_Jan/ ai_81138258 http://www.whale. to/vaccine/ driscoll11. html where does that one death in 8000 figure come from? Has vaccination technology change enough since yesteryear to assure us that it is now safe? I believe that many of us are growing

tired of these same old scare tactics without even a feeble attempt at backing them up with honest research. michaelFrom: Eden <m1231egmail (DOT) com>Subject: VaccinationTo: "RawDairy@yahoogrou ps.com" <RawDairy@yahoogroup s.com>Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 10:58 PM

LOL Gordon I said I came late to the discussion, not to RawDairy. I

am aware many proponents of raw dairy eschew vaccination of themselves

and their children.

I wasn't discussing vaccinating my children.

I was discussing vaccinating livestock to protect children. I find one

death out of eight thousand or so livestock and pets vaccinated

acceptable if that gives patents (myself included) peace of mind in a

rabies endemic area. If the animals developed an autism spectrum

disorder or other less dramatic consequence I doubt we would notice.

So my homework is to read a book written about the yesteryear of

vaccination technology, huh?

Yours is to ask the parents of the beautiful daughter who'll never

give them grandchildren after a bout of cervical cancer at the age of

24 if they wished they'd had access to that vaccine when she was twelve.

I wonder if you addressed my post with disproportionate anger and

scorn because you are afraid a medical professional speaking from

personal experience would be listened to?

August 7, 2008

I am a veterinarian, mother and livestock producer (family dairy cows,

beef, sheep) who lives in a rabies endemic area as well. I think that

it should be a personal decision rather than a government mandated one

as to whether livestock be vaccinated. I vaccinate my dogs and cats,

who are avid hunters, but do not vaccinate my horse, cows, sheep, or

children.

Consumers have a right to know if the foods they are purchasing come

from vaccinated animals or not and make their own decisions, just as

they ought to be able to do for GMO foods and BGH milk and meat.

Unfortunately, in this litigious society, very few people are willing

to accept personal responsibility for their choices and want our

government to control our very lives under the guise of keeping us

safe and we are stuck living under majority rule.

I also vaccinate as minimally as possible, sometimes using titers as a

gage of protection. I realize that they are a controversial tool, but

in lieu of challenge tests, they are the only one we have.

Ober

August 7, 2008

I am a veterinarian, mother and livestock producer (family dairy cows,

beef, sheep) who lives in a rabies endemic area as well. I think that

it should be a personal decision rather than a government mandated one

as to whether livestock be vaccinated. I vaccinate my dogs and cats,

who are avid hunters, but do not vaccinate my horse, cows, sheep, or

children.

Consumers have a right to know if the foods they are purchasing come

from vaccinated animals or not and make their own decisions, just as

they ought to be able to do for GMO foods and BGH milk and meat.

Unfortunately, in this litigious society, very few people are willing

to accept personal responsibility for their choices and want our

government to control our very lives under the guise of keeping us

safe and we are stuck living under majority rule.

I also vaccinate as minimally as possible, sometimes using titers as a

gage of protection. I realize that they are a controversial tool, but

in lieu of challenge tests, they are the only one we have.

Ober

August 7, 2008

> Yours is to ask the parents of the beautiful daughter who'll never

> give them grandchildren after a bout of cervical cancer at the age

of

> 24 if they wished they'd had access to that vaccine when she was

twelve.

> I wonder if you addressed my post with disproportionate anger and

> scorn because you are afraid a medical professional speaking from

> personal experience would be listened to?

>

Did she get the cervical cancer from HPV or her mother taking DES?

and what about all the parents whose children have been permanently

damaged or killed by vaccine reactions? You can go round and round on

this.

The AVMA (http://www.avma.org/issues/vaccination/vaccination.asp) and

AAHA

(http://www.aahanet.org/PublicDocuments/VaccineGuidelines06Revised.pdf)

are both trying to convince small animal practitioners to reduce

frequency of vaccines, and veterinarians at University of Wisconsin

(Dr. Ron Schmid) and University of Colorado, and Cornell University

are all on the forefront of calling for re evaluation and reduction/

minimization of the vaccines used in animals. As veterinarians, we

have seen the effects of vaccination benefits (think parvo epidemics

in the 80s), and risks (lymphoma, IMHA, hypo and hyper thyroidism,

fibrosarcoma, autoimmune disease....). Hopefully we do not need to

repeat the same mistakes in the human population and our food supply

to learn something.

August 7, 2008