Butter

[Guest guest]

>I haven't seen Horizon butter around here yet, but I haven't looked in

>all the stores. Which store do you get it at? The stores I've seen

>just carry Horizon milk and cheese products.

Hi Doug,

I was wrong.Wal Mart did not have Horizon butter only Horizon milk like you

said. Kroger however does have Horizon organic butter and it was $5.19 for

one pound. Also, on the Horizon website it says the ingredients for butter

are organic pasteurized sweet cream (milk) and lactic acid, but the package

says organic pasteurized sweet cream (milk) and salt. :-)

I was also wrong on the ghee - they did not have any and I made my own last

time.

a

[Guest guest]

>

> Dear Bee,

> I have been milk/lactose free for over 10 years now.

> my recent Alcat test came back with mild reaction to casein & whey.

> I'm reluctant to touch anything that comes from milk.

> does butter have whey ?  what about ghee? the clarified butter (no

casein)

++Hi Carmen. Allergy tests aren't accurate you know, so I wouldn't

rely on them particularly for testing foods. There are a few

articles on my website about the inaccuracies of those tests, what

they use to test which are often contaminated, and how the antibody

theory is false too. Look up antibodies and allergies.

So I'm sure you'll do fine with butter. Ghee has all of the proteins

removed and butter doesn't contain the whey portion of the cream.

> my milk history includes bad abdominal swelling & pain to the point

of getting incapacitated.

> i just tried cooking with butter, and got bloated and gassy...not

as severe as " before " ... I was taking ginger to.

+++I had the same thing before I cured my candida over 20 years ago.

Your bloating and gas are because butter is antifungal so it kills of

candida, which in turn produces carbon dioxide (gas). Try using less

at a time and increase it slowly in order to minimize such die-off

reactions and you'll do fine.

The best, Bee

[Guest guest]

I'm glad u asked this question coz i'm wondering that too mainly bcoz

the cost of organic butter is so very expensive!

Shirin

> I can't for the life of me find the appropriate butter at the shops.

Is

> it alright if I just replace the butter in the raw egg drink with

> coconut oil and extra virgin olive oil?

[Guest guest]

>

> Dear Bee,

>

> I can't for the life of me find the appropriate butter at the shops.

Is

> it alright if I just replace the butter in the raw egg drink with

> coconut oil and extra virgin olive oil?

>

> Again thank you very much for your help Bee, words cannot express how

> thankful I am to have found you!

Hi Nithya. If you can buy regular pasteurized butter that is okay too,

since it still retains some of its valuable nutrients. It's better

than not having it. See the articles about butter on my website which

explain the uniqueness of butter. It works with coconut oil too, and

vice versa.

Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> I'm glad u asked this question coz i'm wondering that too mainly bcoz

> the cost of organic butter is so very expensive!

>

> Shirin, you can still get benefits from regular pasteurized butter.

It is better to have butter, no matter whether it is organic or not,

than to not have it. I can't get raw butter, and organic is too

expensive so I buy regular uncultured unsalted butter at Superstore

here. We don't want to become obsessive about getting everything

exact, so you do the best you can. You will still benefit!!

Luv, Bee

[Guest guest]

I use Allowrie cultured and unsalted butter. It's not organic but its quite

good. We do have better quality butter here as our cattle are mostly pasture

fed. It is a nice tasting butter too very creamy. I used to use Harmonie Organic

butter but apparnetly it's only '80% organic' whatever that means and because

it's imported it's so expensive at $7 or more for 250gm now!

I would not worry too much about getting everything organic. I have been on the

diet for a year and I've seen loads of improvements eating a lot of meat and

veggies from supermarkets. I would prefer organic but it did take me some time

to source organic food that is affordable.

I would first concentrate on excluding the unallowed foods on this diet and

transitioning onto allowed whether organic or not. In time you can improve the

quality of your foods as you can afford and source it but Bee is right that you

will see improvements regardless.

BTW here is a good site for organic suppliers etc around Australia:

http://enviro.org.au/Organics-directory-australia.asp

Regards,

Cara

>

>

> > I can't for the life of me find the appropriate

> butter at the shops.

> Is

> > it alright if I just replace the butter in the raw egg

> drink with

> > coconut oil and extra virgin olive oil?

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi bee

>

> I read somewhere that you said that the Maasais ate the equivalent

of 1

> and a half pounds of butter a day. They were in radiant health

(I've

> been researching about their lifestyle which is fascinating).

>

> So could I conclude that eating such a big amount of butter could

be

> good? Or were they an exception that should not be followed?

+++Hi . They are called the Masai or Masaai warriors. Yes you

may conclude that eating such a large amount of butter is good, along

with other nutrients of course.

But remember their cows were 'trully' free-range and fed plants grown

on very rich soil, which was maintained by natural agricultural

methods. That's very different from our butter.

Of course the Masai also ate meat and drank blood, so their health

wasn't solely due to the butter.

Bee

[Guest guest]

> >

> > Hi bee

> >

> > I read somewhere that you said that the Maasais ate the

equivalent

> of 1

> > and a half pounds of butter a day. They were in radiant health

> (I've

> > been researching about their lifestyle which is fascinating).

> >

> > So could I conclude that eating such a big amount of butter could

> be

> > good? Or were they an exception that should not be followed?

>

> +++Hi . They are called the Masai or Masaai warriors. Yes

you

> may conclude that eating such a large amount of butter is good,

along

> with other nutrients of course.

>

> But remember their cows were 'trully' free-range and fed plants

grown

> on very rich soil, which was maintained by natural agricultural

> methods. That's very different from our butter.

>

> Of course the Masai also ate meat and drank blood, so their health

> wasn't solely due to the butter.

>

> Bee

>

thanks,

These people really inspire me. We live in a controled world. We

fight for democracy and try to impose it everywhere but no one can

actually do what he wants. It is impossible (or hardly possible) to

find unpasteurised dairy products. You can at the farm but then even

at the farm they tell you to pasteurise it! (lol, I told the farmer I

would do it with a big smile and never did it - that was before I got

on the programme when i was still drinking milk) Organic is the

exception, not the rule... People look at you like as if you were mad

if you say you only eat orgnanic.

We're a making ourselves sick... But what makes me the sad the most

is that we are slowing killing the last healthy people on earth. Even

the maasai people are falling under our influence! If you wanted to

run away from society, you wouldn't find a place with only natural

products! Our products, our sugar and pasteurisation is everywhere!

I read in a Muslim book (quite radical :-s) that the White man was

the devil. That it was in his nature, that he couldn't help doing

evil deeds. I was shocked at first to read such blatant racism and

lies. But I can't help admitting that we are the cause of many

problems in the world. Yesterday again, I heard during a lecture

about the Indian Massacres in America.. There was so much we could

have learned from these people. But instead, we killed them!!

If we had always been eating properly, I wouldn't have been sick in

the first place and wouldn't be suffering right now from it

but well, we can't do much to change thins...

[Guest guest]

What kind of butter are we talking about? Pasteurized butter has little to

no nutrition from what I have heard, and I am having the hardest time

finding raw milk products.

Sibylle Faye

http://www.avianweb.com

_____

From: candidiasis [mailto:candidiasis ] On

Behalf Of Duncan Crow

Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 10:24 AM

candidiasis

Subject: Re: " Hearing Voices " remission within hours from

supplement use

Bonnie, a few anecdotes does not mean MCT will " greatly help " ; I note

that lecithin OR cod-liver oil reduces alzheimers (improves cognition) in

some people, and neither one contains coconut oil. Further, butter is

also rich in MCT; it's my personal first choice because it contains the

DHA and EPA found in brain cells and has been tested on cognitive

ability, while coconut oil does not contain these crucially important

nutrients.

Duncan

>

> :

>

> Since Coconut Oil greatly helps those with Autism and Alzheimers,

(among

> many other things) you might think of adding that to his diet.

>

> Bonnie

>

> _____

>

> From: candidiasis@ <mailto:candidiasis%40>

[mailto:candidiasis@ <mailto:candidiasis%40> ]

On

> Behalf Of Darman

> Sent: February 17, 2009 3:40 PM

> candidiasis@ <mailto:candidiasis%40>

> Subject: " Hearing Voices " remission within hours from

> supplement use

>

>

>

> Dear group:

>

> In January, I amended Willy's baggie formula to try to improve its

> effect on the symptom of hearing voices.

>

> The main change that I made to Willy's pre-existing baggie formula

was

> to boost the Pureform and WAC amino acid blend content a little bit,

> and to substantially boost various glutathione precursors in Willy's

> baggie, as well as to add some glutathione itself.

>

> Another change that I made to Willy's pre-existing baggie formula

that

> may have made a significant difference is that I added a capsule

> containing many of the minerals found in the human body in very

small

> amounts. (I used a mineral preparation based on the wisdom of Dr.

> Wallach, the author of " Dead Doctors Don't Lie " .)

>

> The person that was taking Willy's baggies to treat " hearing voices "

> symptoms in himself (as per the prior blog on my 360 site) is

> now stating that instead of these baggies taking a handful of days to

> work, he now reports that " hearing voices " remission in himself was

> achievable within a matter of hours.

>

> I cannot help but think that something toxic causes " hearing voices "

> symptoms... and that whatever the source of this toxicity, it can be

> rather readily cleared up with the proper use of healing nutritional

> supplements.

>

> The correction of " hearing voices " symptoms within a matter of hours

> via the use of supplements may represent a huge breakthrough in the

> understanding and treatment of both schizo-affective disorder and

> schizophrenia.

>

> I hope to be able to put this entire story of the remission of

> " hearing voices " symptoms on the Internet by no later than late

March

> 2009. I expect to be doing this in both written and video format. (As

> my time and computer access allows, I will post some material in this

> regard prior to late March. The first material I will be posting to

> the Internet will include the exact content of " Willy's baggie " as it

> stands at the present time.)

>

> I am of the opinion that " we " (those of us taking baggies of broad

> based nutritional supplements and learning from doing this) have not

> only cracked the mystery of bipolar disorder for the entire world,

> " we " have cracked the mystery of schizophrenia as well.

>

> All the very best,

>

> Darman

>

> http://360.. <http://360.. <http://360./allen_dar>

com/allen_dar> com/allen_dar

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sibylle, even pasteurized butter contains essential medium-chain fatty

acids, and also EPA and DHA, which are also very essential fats. The

latter two are also present in cod-liver or other fish oil, even in

pasteurized, actually microdistilled, oil. Your source must be incorrect in

saying the food value of butter is absent.

Duncan

> >

> > :

> >

> > Since Coconut Oil greatly helps those with Autism and Alzheimers,

> (among

> > many other things) you might think of adding that to his diet.

> >

> > Bonnie

> >

> > _____

> >

> > From: candidiasis@ <mailto:candidiasis%40>

> [mailto:candidiasis@ <mailto:candidiasis%40>

]

> On

> > Behalf Of Darman

> > Sent: February 17, 2009 3:40 PM

> > candidiasis@ <mailto:candidiasis%40>

> > Subject: " Hearing Voices " remission within hours from

> > supplement use

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear group:

> >

> > In January, I amended Willy's baggie formula to try to improve its

> > effect on the symptom of hearing voices.

> >

> > The main change that I made to Willy's pre-existing baggie formula

> was

> > to boost the Pureform and WAC amino acid blend content a little

bit,

> > and to substantially boost various glutathione precursors in Willy's

> > baggie, as well as to add some glutathione itself.

> >

> > Another change that I made to Willy's pre-existing baggie formula

> that

> > may have made a significant difference is that I added a capsule

> > containing many of the minerals found in the human body in very

> small

> > amounts. (I used a mineral preparation based on the wisdom of Dr.

>

> > Wallach, the author of " Dead Doctors Don't Lie " .)

> >

> > The person that was taking Willy's baggies to treat " hearing voices "

> > symptoms in himself (as per the prior blog on my 360 site) is

> > now stating that instead of these baggies taking a handful of days to

> > work, he now reports that " hearing voices " remission in himself was

> > achievable within a matter of hours.

> >

> > I cannot help but think that something toxic causes " hearing voices "

> > symptoms... and that whatever the source of this toxicity, it can be

> > rather readily cleared up with the proper use of healing nutritional

> > supplements.

> >

> > The correction of " hearing voices " symptoms within a matter of

hours

> > via the use of supplements may represent a huge breakthrough in

the

> > understanding and treatment of both schizo-affective disorder and

> > schizophrenia.

> >

> > I hope to be able to put this entire story of the remission of

> > " hearing voices " symptoms on the Internet by no later than late

> March

> > 2009. I expect to be doing this in both written and video format.

(As

> > my time and computer access allows, I will post some material in

this

> > regard prior to late March. The first material I will be posting to

> > the Internet will include the exact content of " Willy's baggie " as it

> > stands at the present time.)

> >

> > I am of the opinion that " we " (those of us taking baggies of broad

> > based nutritional supplements and learning from doing this) have not

> > only cracked the mystery of bipolar disorder for the entire world,

> > " we " have cracked the mystery of schizophrenia as well.

> >

> > All the very best,

> >

> > Darman

> >

> > http://360.. <http://360..

<http://360./allen_dar>

> com/allen_dar> com/allen_dar

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Sibylle, see the oils analysis chart in the references section here for

more info on the composition of fatty acids in many food oils, butter

included:

http://tinyurl.com/oil-references

Duncan

> > >

> > > :

> > >

> > > Since Coconut Oil greatly helps those with Autism and

Alzheimers,

> > (among

> > > many other things) you might think of adding that to his diet.

> > >

> > > Bonnie

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > From: candidiasis@ <mailto:candidiasis%40>

>

> > [mailto:candidiasis@ <mailto:candidiasis%40>

> ]

> > On

> > > Behalf Of Darman

> > > Sent: February 17, 2009 3:40 PM

> > > candidiasis@ <mailto:candidiasis%40>

>

> > > Subject: " Hearing Voices " remission within hours

from

> > > supplement use

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear group:

> > >

> > > In January, I amended Willy's baggie formula to try to improve its

> > > effect on the symptom of hearing voices.

> > >

> > > The main change that I made to Willy's pre-existing baggie

formula

> > was

> > > to boost the Pureform and WAC amino acid blend content a little

> bit,

> > > and to substantially boost various glutathione precursors in Willy's

> > > baggie, as well as to add some glutathione itself.

> > >

> > > Another change that I made to Willy's pre-existing baggie

formula

> > that

> > > may have made a significant difference is that I added a capsule

> > > containing many of the minerals found in the human body in very

> > small

> > > amounts. (I used a mineral preparation based on the wisdom of

Dr.

> >

> > > Wallach, the author of " Dead Doctors Don't Lie " .)

> > >

> > > The person that was taking Willy's baggies to treat " hearing

voices "

> > > symptoms in himself (as per the prior blog on my 360 site)

is

> > > now stating that instead of these baggies taking a handful of days

to

> > > work, he now reports that " hearing voices " remission in himself

was

> > > achievable within a matter of hours.

> > >

> > > I cannot help but think that something toxic causes " hearing

voices "

> > > symptoms... and that whatever the source of this toxicity, it can

be

> > > rather readily cleared up with the proper use of healing nutritional

> > > supplements.

> > >

> > > The correction of " hearing voices " symptoms within a matter of

> hours

> > > via the use of supplements may represent a huge breakthrough in

> the

> > > understanding and treatment of both schizo-affective disorder and

> > > schizophrenia.

> > >

> > > I hope to be able to put this entire story of the remission of

> > > " hearing voices " symptoms on the Internet by no later than late

> > March

> > > 2009. I expect to be doing this in both written and video format.

> (As

> > > my time and computer access allows, I will post some material in

> this

> > > regard prior to late March. The first material I will be posting to

> > > the Internet will include the exact content of " Willy's baggie " as it

> > > stands at the present time.)

> > >

> > > I am of the opinion that " we " (those of us taking baggies of broad

> > > based nutritional supplements and learning from doing this) have

not

> > > only cracked the mystery of bipolar disorder for the entire world,

> > > " we " have cracked the mystery of schizophrenia as well.

> > >

> > > All the very best,

> > >

> > > Darman

> > >

> > > http://360.. <http://360..

> <http://360./allen_dar>

> > com/allen_dar> com/allen_dar

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Butter from grass-fed cows still contain vitamin K2 which is beneficial for

mineral absorption. The more yellow the better. Organic Valley brand is

grass-fed and pasteurized. K2 is not sensitive to heat (but is to oxidation,

I believe).

For raw milk source, check your local Weston Price chapter. There are farm

clubs that offer shares of herds, and you will be drinking your own cow's

milk.

http://westonaprice.org/localchapters/index.html

> >

> >

> > >

> > > What kind of butter are we talking about? Pasteurized butter has

> > little to

> > > no nutrition from what I have heard, and I am having the hardest

> time

> > > finding raw milk products.

> > >

> > > Sibylle Faye

> > >

> > > http://www.avianweb.com

>

[Guest guest]

<<For raw milk source, check your local Weston Price chapter. There are farm

clubs that offer shares of herds, and you will be drinking your own cow's

milk.>>

There is nothing close enough to my home in Southern Florida. I would have

to drive 45 minutes to get my weekly portion of fresh raw milk and butter

through an area I don't really like.

I would love to find a farm locally - heck, I would go and milk that cow

myself! (Once somebody showed me how to do it without getting myself

killed). One " farm club " closed recently. I registered with another one

and never heard from them. I suppose business is not good for them right

now.

I had some raw milk a few weeks ago and it was REALLY good. From

everything I have read, raw milk is ultimately superior to pasteurized milk

in both taste and nutrition.

Sibylle Faye

http://www.avianweb.com

_____

From: candidiasis [mailto:candidiasis ] On

Behalf Of McCartney

Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 4:31 PM

candidiasis

Subject: Re: Re: Butter

Butter from grass-fed cows still contain vitamin K2 which is beneficial for

mineral absorption. The more yellow the better. Organic Valley brand is

grass-fed and pasteurized. K2 is not sensitive to heat (but is to oxidation,

I believe).

For raw milk source, check your local Weston Price chapter. There are farm

clubs that offer shares of herds, and you will be drinking your own cow's

milk.

http://westonaprice <http://westonaprice.org/localchapters/index.html>

..org/localchapters/index.html

> >

> >

> > >

> > > What kind of butter are we talking about? Pasteurized butter has

> > little to

> > > no nutrition from what I have heard, and I am having the hardest

> time

> > > finding raw milk products.

> > >

> > > Sibylle Faye

> > >

> > > http://www.avianweb <http://www.avianweb.com> .com

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hello,

> I'm wondering if cultured butter and goat's milk butter are ok? Also, where do

I find unpasteurized butter? I haven't found it at the farmer's market. Would

small farm local eggs also be pasteurized? I guess I'll have to ask them.

+++Hi . Yes cultured butter and goat's milk butter are ok.

Getting unpasteurized butter depends upon where you live. Here in Canada it is

illegal.

I doubt small farms would pasteurize eggs - they probably haven't even heard of

it, and wouldn't take the time anyway.

Bee

[Guest guest]

Hi Amy,

I've never had a migraine in my life, but I can tell you that butter is

antifungal, so it will cause more die-off to occur. You need to go easy on the

butter, just like you do with the coconut oil.

>

> I find I can manage plenty of CO now, but coupled with excess butter and it

triggers a migraine. Is it just that the butter is antifungal and creating too

much die-off? Does anyone else react sensitively to too much butter?

> Amy

>

[Guest guest]

>

> I find I can manage plenty of CO now, but coupled with excess butter and it

triggers a migraine. Is it just that the butter is antifungal and creating too

much die-off? Does anyone else react sensitively to too much butter?

+++Hi Amy. A migraine is a die-off symptom, so it is probably caused by taking

too much antifungal and butter, lard, etc. are also antifungal.

But both coconut oil and butter are important for your health. Butter contains

nutrients coconut oil doesn't and vice versa. So I suggest you take less coconut

oil and butter so your die-off symptoms are less severe. Find the level of both

of them that doesn't cause intolerable symptoms.

The best, Bee

[Guest guest]

 

Pass The Butter ... Please..

This is interesting . . .

Margarine was originally manufactured to fatten turkeys. When it killed the turkeys, the people who had put all the money into the research wanted a payback so they put their heads together to figure out what to do with this product to get their money back.

It was a white substance with no food appeal so they added the yellow colouring and sold it to people to use in place of butter. How do you like it? They have come out with some clever new flavorings.

DO YOU KNOW... The difference between margarine and butter? Read on to the end...gets very interesting!

Both have the same amount of calories. Butter is slightly higher in saturated fats at 8 grams; compared to 5 grams for margarine.

Eating margarine can increase heart disease in women by 53% over eating the same amount of butter, according to a recent Harvard Medical Study.

Eating butter increases the absorption of many other nutrients in other foods.

Butter has many nutritional benefits where margarine has a few and

only because they are added! Butter tastes much better than margarine and it can enhance the flavors of other foods.

Butter has been around for centuries where margarine has been around for less than 100 years .

And now, for Margarine... Very High in Trans fatty acids.

Triples risk of coronary heart disease .

Increases total cholesterol and LDL (this is the bad cholesterol) and lowers HDL cholesterol, (the good cholesterol).

Increases the risk of cancer up to five times. Lowers quality of breast milk.

Decreases immune response. Decreases insulin response.

And here's the most disturbing fact.... HERE IS THE PART THAT IS VERY INTERESTING! Margarine is but ONE MOLECULE away from being PLASTIC... and shares 27 ingredients with PAINT

These facts alone were enough to have me avoiding margarine for life and anything else that is hydrogenated (this means hydrogen is added, changing the molecular structure of the substance). You can try this yourself:

Purchase a tub of margarine and leave it open in your garage or shaded area. Within a couple of days you will notice a couple of things: * no flies, not even those pesky fruit flies will go near it (that should tell you something)

* it does not rot or smell differently because it has no nutritional value ; nothing will grow on it. Even those teeny weeny microorganisms will not a find a home to grow. Why? Because it is nearly plastic . Would you melt your Tupperware and spread that on your toast?

Share This With Your Friends.....(If you want to butter them up')! Chinese Proverb: When someone shares something of value with you and you benefit from it, you have a moral obligation to share it with others.

Pass the BUTTER PLEASE