Re: ER preparedness for unvaccinated children

[Guest guest]

I am sure this scenario has occurred but it is not common and I would not expect that to happen to you should you need to go to the emergency room. You do have the right to decline vaccines and that is the law. I have been to the emergency room a number of times with my 5 kids over the past 23 years and have never been threatened. I simply told them that they were unvaccinated but if need be I would tell them that they are up to date because by my standards they are indeed up to date with ZERO. The best think that you can do is to learn your legal rights and to not back down or be intimidated by them. If they give you any problems ever simply tell them that you have spoken to your lawyer and know that they have no right to force any vaccine on you or your children and should they persist that you will take legal action to protect them.

Keep learning all that you can as it will give you the confidence that you need to stand up to the occassional bully!

Mavis

A free people [claim] their rights as derived from the laws of nature, and not as the gift of their chief magistrate. Jefferson, Rights of British America, 1774

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In a message dated 8/4/2008 2:34:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, yoj0053@... writes:

I was wondering if anyone knows what forms I may need to have ready in case I ever need to take my child to the emergency room. I have read recently that the ER won't release unvaccinated children back to their parents, or if they do, the child protective services will be notified and children can be taken away for neglect. I have heard some people just lie when asked if their child is up to date on their shots - which I guess I would be willing to do to protect the life of my child...but it seems risky. Plus, what if it's an injury that requires a tetinus shot. I know the shot is useless anyway, and potentially harmful.

I live in Nevada and we have medical and religious exemptions. I have a form that I use for day care, but I'm not sure if I need something else written up for possible hospital visits.

Thanks,

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[Guest guest]

I am sure this scenario has occurred but it is not common and I would not expect that to happen to you should you need to go to the emergency room. You do have the right to decline vaccines and that is the law. I have been to the emergency room a number of times with my 5 kids over the past 23 years and have never been threatened. I simply told them that they were unvaccinated but if need be I would tell them that they are up to date because by my standards they are indeed up to date with ZERO. The best think that you can do is to learn your legal rights and to not back down or be intimidated by them. If they give you any problems ever simply tell them that you have spoken to your lawyer and know that they have no right to force any vaccine on you or your children and should they persist that you will take legal action to protect them.

Keep learning all that you can as it will give you the confidence that you need to stand up to the occassional bully!

Mavis

A free people [claim] their rights as derived from the laws of nature, and not as the gift of their chief magistrate. Jefferson, Rights of British America, 1774

VACCINE RISK AWARENESS NETWORK -"PERSONAL STORY LINKS" The Great HPV Vaccine Hoax ExposedVaccination Information & Choice Network - Vaccination Liberation Home PageThinkTwice Global Vaccine Institute: Avoid Vaccine Reactions National Vaccine Information Center

In a message dated 8/4/2008 2:34:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, yoj0053@... writes:

I was wondering if anyone knows what forms I may need to have ready in case I ever need to take my child to the emergency room. I have read recently that the ER won't release unvaccinated children back to their parents, or if they do, the child protective services will be notified and children can be taken away for neglect. I have heard some people just lie when asked if their child is up to date on their shots - which I guess I would be willing to do to protect the life of my child...but it seems risky. Plus, what if it's an injury that requires a tetinus shot. I know the shot is useless anyway, and potentially harmful.

I live in Nevada and we have medical and religious exemptions. I have a form that I use for day care, but I'm not sure if I need something else written up for possible hospital visits.

Thanks,

AKLooking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos.

[Guest guest]

I recently had to take one of my sons to the ER for an injury that

would require a tetanus. Seems that the booster are given at

intervals, my 11yo would have been up for a booster. I lied. The

nurse said, " of course his shots are all up to date " . She didn't

wait for an answer and I didn't comment. Then the doctor asked that I

check and make sure he had had his booster with his primary the

following day. Since his injury required surgery I assumed he'd ask

if I had checked on it, but he didn't. I was prepared to lie and tell

them that he'd had everything updated with his school checkup. I am

not comfortable with lying but my chiropractor suggested I do this to

prevent " complications " . I have, in the past, told the truth and was

met with a LOT of argument and threats, and I fear things may be more

difficult now than in the past.

I downloaded these:

http://www.geocities.com/titus2birthing/VacRefuse.html which I was

prepared to use along with the particular article of the law (in

Indiana) that gives me the right to refuse (religious, here).

Lolita (IN)

>I was wondering if anyone knows what forms I may need to have ready

>in case I ever need to take my child to the emergency room. I have

>read recently that the ER won't release unvaccinated children back

>to their parents, or if they do, the child protective services will

>be notified and children can be taken away for neglect. I have

>heard some people just lie when asked if their child is up to date

>on their shots - which I guess I would be willing to do to protect

>the life of my child...but it seems risky. Plus, what if it's an

>injury that requires a tetinus shot. I know the shot is useless

>anyway, and potentially harmful.

>

>I live in Nevada and we have medical and religious exemptions. I

>have a form that I use for day care, but I'm not sure if I need

>something else written up for possible hospital visits.

>

>Thanks,

>AK

>

" Children- take 'em as they run-

You kin bet on, ev'ry one!

Treat 'em right and reco'nize

Human souls is just one size. " Whitcomb Riley 1849-1916

[Guest guest]

I recently had to take one of my sons to the ER for an injury that

would require a tetanus. Seems that the booster are given at

intervals, my 11yo would have been up for a booster. I lied. The

nurse said, " of course his shots are all up to date " . She didn't

wait for an answer and I didn't comment. Then the doctor asked that I

check and make sure he had had his booster with his primary the

following day. Since his injury required surgery I assumed he'd ask

if I had checked on it, but he didn't. I was prepared to lie and tell

them that he'd had everything updated with his school checkup. I am

not comfortable with lying but my chiropractor suggested I do this to

prevent " complications " . I have, in the past, told the truth and was

met with a LOT of argument and threats, and I fear things may be more

difficult now than in the past.

I downloaded these:

http://www.geocities.com/titus2birthing/VacRefuse.html which I was

prepared to use along with the particular article of the law (in

Indiana) that gives me the right to refuse (religious, here).

Lolita (IN)

>I was wondering if anyone knows what forms I may need to have ready

>in case I ever need to take my child to the emergency room. I have

>read recently that the ER won't release unvaccinated children back

>to their parents, or if they do, the child protective services will

>be notified and children can be taken away for neglect. I have

>heard some people just lie when asked if their child is up to date

>on their shots - which I guess I would be willing to do to protect

>the life of my child...but it seems risky. Plus, what if it's an

>injury that requires a tetinus shot. I know the shot is useless

>anyway, and potentially harmful.

>

>I live in Nevada and we have medical and religious exemptions. I

>have a form that I use for day care, but I'm not sure if I need

>something else written up for possible hospital visits.

>

>Thanks,

>AK

>

" Children- take 'em as they run-

You kin bet on, ev'ry one!

Treat 'em right and reco'nize

Human souls is just one size. " Whitcomb Riley 1849-1916