Vitamin D

[Guest guest]

Hi Jen,

Without intending to worry you, vitamin D can be toxic in excessive amounts.

In fact, according to " Nutrition Almanac " by Kirschmann, it is the most

toxic vitamin of all if taken in excess. Without the proper co-minerals

present, it can cause the removal of calcium. I can quote you some more from

the book I mentioned if you desire.

There are coral supplements that do not contain supplemental vitamin D, such

as Premier Research brand. How much cod liver do you take daily? I know this

is a very important concern to you, so I certainly am not advising you in any

way, but as I said there are other coral supplements you could consider and

more sunshine is always a good thing. Good luck!

Theresa

[Guest guest]

Jen,

Me again. Just wanted to clarify that I always feel safer with dosages of

vitamins and minerals in their whole food form, or as nature produces them.

So I don't think supplemental vitamin D is bad, the quantity could be an

issue if it is not balanced with the co-nutrients. That is why the multi (

if it is not a whole food supplement) and the coral calcium (with added

vitamin D), could be switched to other brands if you get plenty of sunshine.

Just wanted to make my suggestion more clear.

Theresa

[Guest guest]

Jen,

You need to get your vitamin D tested. Pretty simple. Ask for the 25

hydroxyvitamin D test, aka the 25 (OH) D test. This is as opposed to the 1,

25 (OH) D test, which is a different test. Find out the exact result, and

make sure it is between 45 and 55.

Your requirement could be over 4000 IU a day of vitamin D, could be much,

much lower. Everybody is different.

I just had mine checked. The test is so easy to do and is covered by

insurance that there is just no point in not taking it at all. Chances are,

you aren't going to do any harm taking a whole foods vitamin D, but for a

free test that takes several minutes to administer and at worst leaves you

witha $10-15 co-payment, it would be wise to make sure.

Chris

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[Guest guest]

Well,

for what its worth, I take 1250 I.U. in a supplement form plus I drink about 2

cups of raw milk a day and about 1.5cups of raw milk yoghurt a day. Remember

the RDA of 200 I.U. or 400 I.U. (can't remember) is only a suggestion and is

usually only enough to barely support life much less health.

hope that helps,

danny

Creek Bend Dairy Farm

Harry & Peggy Strite

11917 Snug Harbor Lane

port, MD 21795

301-582-4135

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----- Original Message -----

From: Evely

Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 5:53 PM

Subject: vitamin D

I have a question/concern about vitamin D

I take 9 coral calcium caps a day.... each capsule has 400 I.U of vitamin D3

as cholecalciferol

~I also take a multi which is 400 I.U vitamin D and I take cod liver oil on

a daily basis...

my question is....

am I getting too much vitamin D??

I know certain vitamins A for example in supplement form can be toxic

... what about vitamin D?

thanks

jen

[Guest guest]

hi Theresa!

I take 1 t. cod liver oil a day

the multi I take is Double X by Nutrilite

~it is food source multi not synthetic

I take so many coral complex because you are supposed to take that many if

you have osteoporosis.

~If vitamin D is toxic as you said then I think I'm getting too too much

... perhaps I will cut out the cod liver oil

sun is limited as you know because I am in Portland Oregon

jen

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From: <Polyclean@...>

< >

Cc: <Polyclean@...>

Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 3:47 PM

Subject: Re: vitamin D

> Hi Jen,

>

> Without intending to worry you, vitamin D can be toxic in excessive

amounts.

> In fact, according to " Nutrition Almanac " by Kirschmann, it is the most

> toxic vitamin of all if taken in excess. Without the proper co-minerals

> present, it can cause the removal of calcium. I can quote you some more

from

> the book I mentioned if you desire.

>

> There are coral supplements that do not contain supplemental vitamin D,

such

> as Premier Research brand. How much cod liver do you take daily? I know

this

> is a very important concern to you, so I certainly am not advising you in

any

> way, but as I said there are other coral supplements you could consider

and

> more sunshine is always a good thing. Good luck!

>

> Theresa

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I take double X

.... it's a whole food supplement

----- Original Message -----

From: <Polyclean@...>

< >

Cc: <Polyclean@...>

Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 3:55 PM

Subject: Re: vitamin D

> Jen,

>

> Me again. Just wanted to clarify that I always feel safer with dosages of

> vitamins and minerals in their whole food form, or as nature produces

them.

> So I don't think supplemental vitamin D is bad, the quantity could be an

> issue if it is not balanced with the co-nutrients. That is why the multi

(

> if it is not a whole food supplement) and the coral calcium (with added

> vitamin D), could be switched to other brands if you get plenty of

sunshine.

> Just wanted to make my suggestion more clear.

>

> Theresa

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Jen,

Actually, I would not cut out the cod liver oil, especially since you are

living in Portland. Unless of course you eat lots of sardines or other clean

source of fatty fish. I'll reiterate that the vitamin D ingested just needs

to come with the proper co-factors, which the oil would since it's a natural

source. Plus, the one teaspoon that you are taking is not a very significant

amount of D. I know that one would be the easiest one to want to eliminate

though, since it tastes bad, but I think it will be helpful in your recovery.

Check out that Premier Research Labs brand and see how it compares. I think

your regimen sounds fine though.

Theresa

[Guest guest]

The best way to supplement with Vitamin D is to get the proper Vit D

test and then get it retested around twice a year so you knwo how

much to supplemetn. Check out the Best BEt Diet GRoup and you'll find

the proper documents on this. http://www.ms-diet.org

Dont' forget Vit D is a fat soluble vitamin so that's why you should

get checked at least twice a year to make sure you're vit D levels

dont' go over the limit.

Also Bihari is nto a Nutritionist. Dr. Lawrence is far better in this

area. Really is anyone is altering their diet do ti properly. Check

out the Best Bet Diet and all the relevant inportant inforamtion, get

an Eliza test done and get your levels of Vid, calcium and magnesium

checked. Also see a nutrionist and bring the best bet diet info with

you !! It is well worth going on the Bet Bet Diet...I wouldnt' go

back to eating junk if I was paid...even though LDn is helping me I

doubt it would work as well if I wasn't following this nutriional

plane. Dr. Lawrence believes that this nutrional plan is vital for

people with MS too and he gives his patient alto of info on diet and

supplements when he's giving them LDN.

Jsut thought this would be all worth mentioning as there's much talk

in relation to Nutriton here lately. There's no point going out

buying a high dose of one particular supplemetns as you could put

your body out of balance. The most inportant thing to do when taking

supplements is to take a real good Multi-Vitamin/Mineral Daily aswell

so you get all nutrients and keep your system in balance.

I've also heard soda been mentioned here lately....quit it if you

want to look after your health....the sugar is a definate NO NO in MS

and you'll be amazed if you even just cut sugar out of your diet.

Aspartame is another issue and I knwo not everyone believes it

affects MS but from what I've read and looked into and discussed with

nutrionists I believe it definately affects MS.

Nutrition is key to MS..I'm so glad I found the Best Bet Diet over a

year ago. I'm now even studying a Diploma in Nutrition through a

distance learning course as I want to learn more.

> I asked Dr. Bihari about Vitamin D when I saw him a few months

ago. He

> suggested 1200-1400 I.U. as a good daily dose. Without more

research, he

> didn't want to recommend more. Just passing along the

information...

>

>

[Guest guest]

Anne, Not everyone is a vegan on this list.. we have a wide diversity.. it's okay. SuziAnne Bird <irishfox@...> wrote: I hate to mention this on this list as I can hear all the moaning and groaning from all of the vegans but here it is: (first putting on my flame suit) The best source of Vitamin D is CLO - Cod Liver Oil. I can remember from my childhood having to take a teaspoon of CLO every morning with an orange slice chaser. It was so icky tasting but that is because most CLO you buy is rancid to begin with. I finally found a CLO that actually tastes good - here it is and I look forward to it

every day in the wintertime when there is minimal exposure to sunshine. www.nordicnaturals.com Their Arctic CLO is great tasting and does come in flavors of lemon/orange. I found this product from my chiropractor and it really works.

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[Guest guest]

Please correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't our bodies produce Vit D

from exposure to sunlight?

--- In health , Suzanne <suziesgoats@...>

wrote:

>

> VITAMIN D

[Guest guest]

Yes however, pollution, the kind that is settling over every major city in the world, is causing concern about the status of vitamin D in many people. Pollution that cuts down on the amount of sunlight that reaches us is also reducing our capacity to produce vitamin D. Vitamin D can be made in our bodies - in the skin to be more precise - but only if sunlight is available to carry out the synthesis. Vitamin D, or calciferol, is a fat-soluble vitamin. It exists in several forms, each with a different biological activity. Vitamin D3 (cholecalciferol) is made by the body and is found in some foods. Vitamin D2 (ergocalciferol) is the form most often added to milk and other foods, and the form most often found in nutrition supplements. Adequate sunlight is an essential part of the chemical process that helps our body produce vitamin D. But factors such as the season of the year, latitude, time of day, cloud cover, smog, and

suncreens all affect the amount of ultraviolet ray exposure we receive from the sun and can reduce our supply of vitamin D. In countries where exposure to the sun is reduced by head to feet clothing for religious or other reasons, vitamin D undernutrition is a problem. Elderly people who stay inside and have poor diets may also have a subclinical deficiency of vitamin D.deuteronomy2929 <deuteronomy2929@...> wrote: Please correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't our bodies produce Vit D from exposure to sunlight?

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[Guest guest]

In your opinion, how does the over excessive use of chemical

sunscreens affect the bodies ability to make vit D?

>

> Yes however, pollution, the kind that is settling over every major

city in the world, is causing concern about the status of vitamin D

in many people. Pollution that cuts down on the amount of sunlight

that reaches us is also reducing our capacity to produce vitamin D.

Vitamin D can be made in our bodies - in the skin to be more precise -

but only if sunlight is available to carry out the synthesis.

Vitamin D, or calciferol, is a fat-soluble vitamin. It exists in

several forms, each with a different biological activity. Vitamin D3

(cholecalciferol) is made by the body and is found in some foods.

Vitamin D2 (ergocalciferol) is the form most often added to milk and

other foods, and the form most often found in nutrition supplements.

> Adequate sunlight is an essential part of the chemical process

that helps our body produce vitamin D. But factors such as the season

of the year, latitude, time of day, cloud cover, smog, and suncreens

all affect the amount of ultraviolet ray exposure we receive from the

sun and can reduce our supply of vitamin D. In countries where

exposure to the sun is reduced by head to feet clothing for religious

or other reasons, vitamin D undernutrition is a problem. Elderly

people who stay inside and have poor diets may also have a

subclinical deficiency of vitamin D.

[Guest guest]

, You're using chemicals (TOXINS).... need I say more?? It would be the same principal as a toxic body.. Suzideuteronomy2929 <deuteronomy2929@...> wrote: In your opinion, how does the over excessive use of chemical sunscreens affect the bodies ability to make vit D?>> Yes however, pollution, the kind that is settling over every major city in the world, is causing concern about the status of vitamin D in many people. Pollution that cuts down on the amount of sunlight that reaches us is also reducing our capacity to produce vitamin D. Vitamin D can be made in our bodies - in the skin to be more precise -but only if sunlight is available to

carry out the synthesis. Vitamin D, or calciferol, is a fat-soluble vitamin. It exists in several forms, each with a different biological activity. Vitamin D3 (cholecalciferol) is made by the body and is found in some foods. Vitamin D2 (ergocalciferol) is the form most often added to milk and other foods, and the form most often found in nutrition supplements.> Adequate sunlight is an essential part of the chemical process that helps our body produce vitamin D. But factors such as the season of the year, latitude, time of day, cloud cover, smog, and suncreens all affect the amount of ultraviolet ray exposure we receive from the sun and can reduce our supply of vitamin D. In countries where exposure to the sun is reduced by head to feet clothing for religious or other reasons, vitamin D undernutrition is a problem. Elderly people who stay inside and have poor diets may also have a subclinical deficiency of vitamin

D.

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[Guest guest]

I can’t tell you how many people I’ve

astounded by saying I think that use of chemical sunscreens is a major cause of

the epidemic of skin cancer we see these days. NOT sun exposure. They think I’m

crazy. Oh well…maybe I am.<G>

Sharyn

From:

health

[mailto:health ] On Behalf Of Suzanne

,

You're using chemicals (TOXINS).... need I say

more?? It would be the same principal as a toxic body..

Suzi

deuteronomy2929

<deuteronomy2929@...> wrote:

In your opinion, how does the over excessive use of

chemical

sunscreens affect the bodies ability to make vit D?

[Guest guest]

NO you're not crazy Sharyn! I agree with you 100%!!! I am a natural redhead and always burned until I STOPPED using sunscreen a few years back. I only use organic, unprocessed, coconut oil.

Shari

[Guest guest]

::grin::

Sharyn

From: health [mailto:health ] On Behalf Of SV

NO you're not crazy Sharyn! I agree with you

100%!!!

[Guest guest]

I actually did some statistical analysis on the rise of sunscreen use

and the rise in skin cancer. Almost identical. We don't use chemical

sunscreen. Just a salve of beeswax and olive oil. We've had some

difficulties getting 's schools to accept it, they insist on

using the chemicals and I forbid it.

>

> I can't tell you how many people I've astounded by saying I think

that use

> of chemical sunscreens is a major cause of the epidemic of skin

cancer we

> see these days. NOT sun exposure. They think I'm crazy. Oh

well.maybe I

> am.<G>

>

> Sharyn

[Guest guest]

I tried using it at my mother's insistence. Sher is deathly afraid of skin

cancer, since we are all fair. It made me break out in nasty red blotches. I

listened to my skin instead of my mother. <Bad child!!!>

Gayla

Always Enough Ranch

Acampo, California

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----- Original Message -----

From: " deuteronomy2929 " <deuteronomy2929@...>

<health >

Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 3:20 PM

Subject: Re: vitamin D

>I actually did some statistical analysis on the rise of sunscreen use

> and the rise in skin cancer. Almost identical. We don't use chemical

> sunscreen. Just a salve of beeswax and olive oil. We've had some

> difficulties getting 's schools to accept it, they insist on

> using the chemicals and I forbid it.

>

>

>

>

>>

>> I can't tell you how many people I've astounded by saying I think

> that use

>> of chemical sunscreens is a major cause of the epidemic of skin

> cancer we

>> see these days. NOT sun exposure. They think I'm crazy. Oh

> well.maybe I

>> am.<G>

>>

>> Sharyn

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

From my Spirit Sister. Blessings, Joy

Are You Taking the Correct Form of Vitamin D?

By Dr. S. phsCo-Founder & Chairman, Vitacost.com

10/19/2007Vitamin D is like an aged wine. It just seems to get better over time. We all know that vitamin D helps build strong bones. In recent years, researchers have found that vitamin D seems to enhance immunity, improve balance and cardiovascular function and can even help with certain neurologic health concerns. However, there is yet another benefit that seems to be coming to light on vitamin D; that being in regard to pain reduction.A study was recently presented at the American Society of Anesthesiologists Annual Meeting in San Francisco and found that one in every four patients who suffers from chronic pain also had inadequate blood levels of vitamin D1. This study indicated that the median intake of vitamin D for adults in the United States was only 230 IU while researchers are recommending 2,000 IU per day. The study involved 267 adults undergoing treatment for chronic pain at the Mayo Clinic. It was found that of these patients, 26% of them had vitamin D inadequacy and, interestingly, needed almost twice the amount of morphine of the group that had more normal levels of vitamin D. The lead author of the study, Dr. Hooten, anesthesiologist at the Mayo Clinic indicated, "This is the first time that we have established the prevalence of vitamin D inadequacy among a diverse group of chronic pain patients."In a follow up to this recently reported study, there was an article published in the November 2007 edition of the Journal of Clinical Rheumatology. The article reported on a study that involved 60 female patients complaining of low back pain lasting more than three months. These patients were studied both from a rheumatologic and neurological standpoint. It was found that these patients had significantly lower vitamin D levels compared to controls.There was another study out of Turkey published in the November 2007 journal Quality Life Research2. The researchers noted that vitamin D deficiency is known to cause muscle weakness, impair bone formation and neuromuscular coordination leading to increase in fracture risk. They note that there were very few studies, however, investigating association between vitamin D status and actual quality of life. Two hundred fifty nine Turkish women with known osteoporosis were evaluated with a series of testing including vitamin D blood levels. It was found that there was a direct correlation between vitamin D blood levels and quality of life. They concluded that vitamin D insufficiency appears to effect physical, social, mental functions of osteoporosis patients and impairs quality of life. Obviously, this is not the only factor controlling quality of life, but was noted to be one of the factors.This data blew me away. It seems like vitamin D is turning out to be snake oil, except that it's for real. I strongly urge you to look at your multi-vitamin. If it does not contain at least 700 IU to 2000 IU of vitamin D3, you are shortchanging yourself. Keep in mind that many vitamin companies use a cheaper and less effective form of vitamin D called vitamin D2, otherwise known as ergocalciferol. Vitamin D3 is cholecalciferol, clearly, the desired form to consume. Nutraceutical Sciences Institute® (NSI®) has been a leader in adding larger amounts of vitamin D3 to our Synergy line of products. My recollection is that we actually started increasing the vitamin D level to 700 IU back in the late 1990s, after a very favorable study came out in The New England Journal of Medicine3 in 1997, indicating that 700 IU of vitamin D and 500 mg of calcium citrate malate in an elderly population decreased fracture rate by approximately 60%, also improving bone density compared to a placebo group.I would venture to say that many multi-vitamins contain only 400 IU of vitamin D clearly an inadequate amount and even worse many contain the inferior D2 form. It appears that vitamin D deficiency is found throughout all age groups. Although Rickets has long been considered a disease of the past, in point of fact, there are many active cases of Rickets currently being reported in children, especially in higher latitude geographic areas. Vitamin D deficiency is very prevalent in those people over the age of 60, especially the elderly in nursing homes. I do not believe that researchers still fully understand the incredible impact that vitamin D has on various tissues on our bodies. For those of you who are interested in taking extra vitamin D, NSI® offers stand-alone products containing 1000 IU and 2000 IU of vitamin D3. As we start to move into the fall and winter months with less sun exposure, the risk of vtitamin D deficiency certainly increases. Guard yourself and your family against this. The best way to promote your good health is to exercise, consume a healthy diet and take a NSI® Synergy multi-nutrient supplement everyday. Many of the nutrients such as selenium, zinc and vitamin D3 in Synergy have been proven to promote a healthy immune system. Synergy is also loaded with powerful antioxidants such as quercetin, standardized green tea (EGCG), grape seed and alpha lipoic acid. This is a powerful combination when combined with the B-complex vitamins for excellent health, anti-aging and longevity. There are over 22 versions of Synergy including new vegetarian caplet versions in stock with same day shipping.Also as winter approaches it is impossible for many of us to have outdoor vegetable, fruit and herb gardens. Vitacost.com has solved that problem by partnering with AeroGarden to offer their new state of the art in door automated growing machine. The stainless steel is the top of the line model with adaptive intelligence and is very attractive in design. The customer reviews on this are five stars, they tell me it works just like the pictures show. You can now grow tomatoes, lettuces, herbs and many other healthy food items in the convenience of your home with ZERO pesticides and chemicals year round. Kids also love to participate in the planting of the seed pods and watching them grow. What a great way to get kids interested in growing and eating healthy fruits, herbs and vegetables. These also make great gift ideas for holidays, weddings, birthdays, baby showers, etc. Vitacost.com has arranged for free shipping and a total of $85 dollars in free gifts including an herb seed kit as a special offer.I would like to close with a very important product warning about products that are killing our children. Shockingly, over 120 infants and children have died because they were given OTC cough and cold medications. Thousands more have been taken to emergency rooms and/or hospitalized. These drugs are dangerous and do not prevent, shorten duration or cure the cold or flu. In fact studies indicate they may actually lengthen the duration of colds or flu. The FDA announced plans to hold a hearing on this subject. I recommend you feed your children a healthy diet with a lot of water/tea, berries, vegetables, baked/grilled salmon and trout, whole grain bread/pasta and other healthy foods. The biggest enemy to all of our immune systems is fried foods and excess sugar. In fact, one study noted that 100 grams of sugar per day can seriously impair immune system. Another study indicated highest sugar intake doubles the risk of pancreatic cancer. I also recommend a good children's chewable vitamin such as NSI®'s Synergy PediaPower®. It is all natural and has far more nutrients per serving when compared to other kids chewable or gummy bear vitamins.1. Hooten WM, Lack of Vitamin D May Worsen Chronic Pain, American Society of Anesthesiologists 2007 Annual Meeting in San Francisco, California, October 13-17, 2007.2. Basaran S, Guzel R, Coskun-Benlidayi I and Guler-Uysal F, Vitamin D Status: Effects on Quality of Life in Osteoporosis among Turkish Women, Quality of Life Research, pages 1491-1499.3 .Lyles KW, Colón-Emeric CS, Magaziner JS, Zoledronic Acid and Clinical Fractures and Mortality after Hip Fracture, New England Journal of Medicine, online, September 17, 2007.

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[Guest guest]

The reason they started me on a high dose of vit D was because my blood

tests showed my PTh as being high.

(76) it went from 69 to72 to 76. They have me on 50,000 iu of vit D once a

week. I have done it for 12 weeks now. My calcium is and has been normal. We

are doing the test again in a few weeks but they seem to think the Tasigna

is causing a high reading in my PTH. What are symptoms of Parathroid

disease???

The vit D does not affect me at all. I notice no jumpiness or anything.

Anxious to ear back

Aloha Sharon

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From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

suzzienovember

Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 6:51 AM

Subject: [ ] Vitamin D

I was diagnosed with Parathyroid disease a few years ago, and they also

told me I was low on Vitamin D. I was put on a vitamin D supplement,

but I stopped it because it made me feel all jumpy. I think I was on

too high a dose. I have a low phosphorus and high normal calcium. If

I even take TUMS for my stomach, my Calcium goes through the roof. I

cannot have any calcium supplements. I still think I should be taking

a additonal Vit D, other than what I get in my daily vitamin.

They put me through 2 scans for the Parathyroid looking for a adenoma,

but see nothing. As long as my numbers stay stable, they are leaving

me alone.

I see a few of you take Vitamin D. I do not get sun either, but thats

partly due to the fact that I hate summertime. I am a winter person,

but then you do not get out because its so cold.

I need a good low dose of Vitamin D, but not sure what dose I should

take.

[Guest guest]

Hi: This whole thing can get very confusing. I was told to take 1000mg. of

Vitamin D a day due to it being low, but like Sharon I have to watch the calcium

levels and my PTH also. My calcium runs at a high normal, and my PTH's run

high. How are you doing Sharon with yours? I am always concerned with my

kidney's due to my low GFR rate.

I have not found too many people with a Parathyroid problem like me, except for

Sharon. I will have to see how my kidney functions are on the next test since

my Vitamin D was increased.

A.

>

> Sandy

> I am one of those that takes 2000 U a day because my D was so low. But

> then my last test showed a high calcium which indicated to much calcium in

> kidney. It is a very difficult balance the calcium and the D. so they had

> me cut back on my calcium and i was ok for now. I love the sun and can't

> understand why my D is so low except that the Tasigna depletes it???/ I

> really dont know. But it is one thing that is checked every two months on

> me. My D and My Calcium and also my PTH,

> Thanks for the info.

> Sharon

>

> _____

>

> From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Sandy

> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 10:34 AM

>

> Subject: [ ] Vitamin D

>

>

>

>

> Hi all.

> The news reported that Vitamin D should be only as high as 800mg. as opposed

> to higher doseages . 2000 mg. of Vitamin D has been found to affect the

> kidneys. Before this report came out, doctors were encouraging people to

> take as much as 2000 mg. a day.

> Sandi

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi all.

I looked at the site that Tracey sent which said the opposite effect of

2000units of D. However, the doctor reporting on channel 2 news said that past

beliefs were incorrect.

The report that I saw was on CBS News and in the Star Ledger Newspaper Tues.

The doctor who presented it on Channel 2 said that this is the recent

information which is contrary to what has been believed earlier. To look at the

report, I believe that you would need to go to CBSnewyork.com. It will be on

their website. Click on health on the home page for the report.

The report was that too little isn't good , but too much was bad. The doctor,

Holly , on the news specificly said that 2000 units will cause kidney

damage. The recommended no. is 600 -800 according to the age.

> >

> > Hi all.

> > The news reported that Vitamin D should be only as high as 800mg. as opposed

to higher doseages . 2000 mg. of Vitamin D has been found to affect the

kidneys. Before this report came out, doctors were encouraging people to take

as much as 2000 mg. a day.

> > Sandi

> >

>

[Guest guest]

NaturalNews.com printable articleOriginally published March 3 2011

8000 IUs of vitamin D daily necessary to raise blood levels of " miracle " anti-cancer nutrient, declares groundbreaking new researchby Mike , the Health Ranger, NaturalNews Editor

(NaturalNews) The reign of censorship and suppression against vitamin D is now coming to an end. Even though the Institute of Medicine (IOM) and many institutions leading the cancer industry (including the ACS) have intentionally tried to downplay the ability of vitamin D to prevent cancer, a new study appearing in the journal Anticancer Research lays out the simple, powerful truth about vitamin D that we've been teaching at NaturalNews for years: A typical adults needs 4,000 - 8,000 IUs of vitamin D each day to prevent cancer, MS and type-1 diabetes, not the ridiculously low 400 - 800 IUs recommended by the U.S. government.

The new research was conducted by scientists at the University of California, San Diego School of Medicine and Creighton University School of Medicine in Omaha. It is groundbreaking research because it establishes the relationship between vitamin D dosage and circulating vitamin D levels in the blood.

This is a first. It is crucial information for the health care revolution that will be necessary to save states and nations from total health care bankruptcy in the coming years. Vitamin D turns out to be one of the simplest, safest and most affordable ways to prevent degenerative disease and sharply reduce long-term health care costs.

Up to 8,000 IUs needed daily " We found that daily intakes of vitamin D by adults in the range of 4,000 to 8,000 IU [international units] are needed to maintain blood levels of vitamin D metabolites in the range needed to reduce by about half the risk of several diseases -- breast cancer, colon cancer, multiple sclerosis and type 1 diabetes, " said Dr. Cedric Garland. (http://health.ucsd.edu/news/2011/02-22-vitamin-D-cancer-risk.htm)

Dr. Garland is the professor of family and preventive medicine at the UC San Diego s Cancer Center. He went on to say:

" I was surprised to find that the intakes required to maintain vitamin D status for disease prevention were so high -- much higher than the minimal intake of vitamin D of 400 IU/day that was needed to defeat rickets in the 20th century. "

Study reveals 90% vitamin D deficiency rate across U.S. population

This particular study involved over 3,000 volunteers who were taking vitamin D supplements. Researchers drew blood samples from them in order to determine their levels of 25-vitamin D (the common form circulating in the blood).

The results were shocking even to the study authors, revealing that 90 percent of those studied were deficient in vitamin D, falling below the 40 - 60 ng/ml range now considered healthy. (Most nutritionally-aware experts in the natural health world recommend higher ranges of 60 - 70 ng/ml, actually.)

The U.S. government's Institute of Medicine has intentionally downplayed vitamin D recommendations, seemingly in an effort to keep boosting the profits of the cancer industry by denying any real benefit to vitamin D. The IOMs most recent recommendations seemed designed to actually cause vitamin D deficiency in the U.S. population (http://www.naturalnews.com/030598_vitamin_D_Institute_of_Medicine.html).

The IOM has even gone out of its way to artificially lower the threshold of vitamin D deficiency by claiming that 20 ng/ml is a sufficient level. This magically transforms a " deficient " person into a " non-deficient " person by merely changing the definition. So a person with a level of 22 ng/ml, for example, is not considered " vitamin D deficient " by the established medical system, even though their vitamin D levels are so low that they may not be able to prevent cancer, MS or type-1 diabetes.

Why the truth about vitamin D is a huge threat to the established for-profit medical systemAs NaturalNews has documented and reported many times over the last several years, the medical establishment -- and especially the cancer industry -- has willfully engaged in attempts to prevent people from learning the truth about vitamin D in order to protect the lucrative profits generated from sickness and disease. Vitamin D represents a greater threat to the medical establishment than any other single nutrient for three reasons:

1) Vitamin D is FREE (you can get it from the sun, without a prescription).2) Vitamin D prevents over a dozen high-profit diseases and health conditions (osteoporosis, cancer, diabetes, MS, and others).

3) Vitamin D is extremely safe, even when taken in supplement form, because it's a natural vitamin / hormone that the body recognizes.

Read more in our downloadable special report, " The Healing Power of Sunlight and Vitamin D " at http://www.naturalnews.com/rr-sunlight.html

Or watch the incredibly popular video from the Health Ranger that explains how African Americans, Asians and Latinos are being exploited by the cancer industry through vitamin D censorship and encouraged nutritionally deficiencies:

http://naturalnews.tv/v.asp?v=5A62FC73922FD51A88E62E42C5A0AD5E

Highlights from the studyThe following summary is extracted from the results of the study, available at: http://www.grassrootshealth.net/garland02-11

• The study examined 3,667 people and their vitamin D intake habits.• Vitamin D intake of 10,000 IU / day had no toxicity.

• For those severely deficient in vitamin D, each 1,000 IU / day of increased supplementation resulted in an increase of 10 ng / ml in vitamin D blood levels.• For those with existing blood levels above 30 ng / ml, each 1,000 IU / day of increased supplementation resulted in an increase of 8 ng / ml in vitamin D blood levels.

• For those with existing blood levels above 50 ng / ml, each 1,000 IU / day of increased supplementation resulted in an increase of 5 ng / ml in vitamin D blood levels.• In other words, vitamin D supplementation has a curve of diminishing returns. Those with existing high levels of vitamin D do not experience as much benefit from vitamin D supplements as those with low levels (which is roughly 90% of the population).

• Vitamin D sales have increased 600% since 2001 (due largely to the efforts of those in both the natural health and honest science communities who are telling the truth about vitamin D).

• Vitamin D is remarkably safe! From the conclusion of the study: " Universal intake of up to 40,000 IU vitamin D per day is unlikely to result in vitamin D toxicity. " Yes, that's 40,000 IUs per day.

See the abstract reprinted below.

Why nearly everyone in first-world nations needs more vitamin DThanks in large part to this remarkable research, it's now clear that all the intelligent people are going to up their vitamin D intake to something in the range of 8,000 IUs per day (or more), especially through the winter months.

Based on this study, I am personally increasing my intake to 10,000 IUs per day from October through April (in North America). And I'll be sure to get plenty of sunshine during the other months. " Now that the results of this study are in, it will become common for almost every adult to take 4000 IU/day, " said Dr. Garland. " This is comfortably under the 10,000 IU/day that the IOM Committee Report considers as the lower limit of risk, and the benefits are substantial. "

" Now is the time for virtually everyone to take more vitamin D to help prevent some major types of cancer, several other serious illnesses, and fractures, " said P. Heaney, MD, of Creighton University, an experienced biomedical scientist.

It seems the conventional cancer industry, the IOM and even the FDA will not be able to censor the truth about vitamin D much longer. The truth is getting out, thanks in large part due to you, the NaturalNews readers who share these stories and help educate and inform your friends and family members.

Spread the news: Take more vitamin D! Please share this story on Facebook, Twitter and elsewhere. Let people know that the research is in, and vitamin D is a remarkably safe " miracle " nutrient that nearly everyone needs to be supplementing. This is especially true if they have darker skin.

(We recommend vitamin D3 from quality nutritional supplement companies. Beware of cheap " multivitamin " sources that you find at common retailers. Go for quality supplements from reputable sources.)Here's the title and abstract of the original study:

Vitamin D Supplement Doses and Serum 25-Hydroxyvitamin D in the Range Associated with Cancer PreventionCEDRIC F. GARLAND, CHRISTINE B. FRENCH, , LEO L. BAGGERLY, and ROBERT P. HEANEY,

" This paper provides a long awaited insight into a dose-response relationship between orally administered vitamin D3 and the resulting levels of serum 25(OH)D in over 3600 citizens. The results will allow new definition of high vitamin D dose safety and reduce concerns about toxicity. This is a landmark contribution in the vitamin D nutrition field! " - Norman, Distinguished Professor of Biochemistry & Biomedical Sciences, Emeritus, University of California Riverside

Abstract. Background: Studies indicate that intake of vitamin D in the range from 1,100 to 4,000 IU/d and a serum 25- hydroxyvitamin D concentration [25(OH)D] from 60-80 ng/ml may be needed to reduce cancer risk. Few community-based studies allow estimation of the dose–response relationship between oral intake of vitamin D and corresponding serum 25(OH)D in the range above 1,000 IU/d. Materials and Methods: A descriptive study of serum 25(OH)D concentration and self-reported vitamin D intake in a community-based cohort (n=3,667, mean age 51.3±13.4 y). Results: Serum 25(OH)D rose as a function of self-reported vitamin D supplement ingestion in a curvilinear fashion, with no intakes of 10,000 IU/d or lower producing 25(OH)D values above the lower-bound of the zone of potential toxicity (200 ng/ml). Unsupplemented all-source input was estimated at 3,300 IU/d. The supplemental dose ensuring that 97.5% of this population achieved a serum 25(OH)D of at least 40 ng/ml was 9,600 IU/d. Conclusion: Universal intake of up to 40,000 IU vitamin D per day is unlikely to result in vitamin D toxicity.

The recent increase in interest in vitamin D by the general public has fueled a better than 200% increase in sales of over-the-counter vitamin D preparations from 2008 to 2009, and a more than 6-fold increase since 2001 (1). Additionally, products with progressively increasing content of vitamin D have been introduced with similar rapidity. There seems to have been little precedent for a change of this magnitude and duration for other nutrients (e.g., vitamins C and E) that have enjoyed brief periods of popularity among the general public. There is essentially no information on how the public uses these products or on their impact on the vitamin D status of consumers.

GrassrootsHealth (GRH), a non-profit community service organization dedicated to promoting public awareness about vitamin D, has assembled a database that includes information on supplemental vitamin D intake by a self-selected population cohort, and links these intakes to measured values for serum 25(OH)D, various demographic variables, and a variety of health status measures. GRH data include values from many individuals with daily supplemental intakes in and above the ranges often used today for cancer prevention and co-therapy (2, 3).

This study used the GRH database to describe the relationship of measured vitamin D status to vitamin D supplementation, both as practiced by health conscious individuals and as related to cancer prevention.Read more at: http://www.grassrootshealth.net/gar...