RE: OT - polysorbates, ingredients in conditioner

[Guest guest]

I get my soapnuts from

www.superiorsoapnuts.com I had met a lady who started selling them and she just opened this website.

The shampoo/conditioner I use is by Desert Essence.

Here is the ingredients from the conditioner:

Aqueous infusion of certified organic extract of Rubus Idaeus (raspberry) lead, certified organic simmondsia chinensis (jojoba) seed oil, emulsifying wax (vegetable derived) prunus amygdalus dulcis (sweet almond) protein, polyquaternium-7, proprietary blend of natural essential oils, potassium gluconate, potassium sorbate, phenoxyethanol.

Hmm so there are a few things in there that don't seem too natural but I'm not positive. Anybody care to analyze this?

On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 8:25 PM, Theresa <tgeorge1@...> wrote:

PS - I guess I should have asked you for the person/family/etc that manufactures or packages these products. Are they available beyond your local area?ThankstOn Sep 3, 2008, at 3:55 PM, Theresa wrote:

> Hi Monika - can you tell us the brand names of the shampoo, etc?>> Thanks,>> t

>>> On Sep 3, 2008, at 9:07 AM, Monika Reign B. wrote:>>>>> Yeah I don't use commercial anything. Our shampoo and conditioner>> is the only thing that is packaged/made by someone else and they

>> contain nothing but some plant and vegetable ingredients. I didn't>> read anything polysorbate in either of them.>> For everything else I use soapnuts and made my own liquid soap out>> of them.

>>>> They are GREAT and I recommend them to anyone. They make GREAT baby/>> children's shampoo. I use it on my son instead of the vegetable>> derived stuff just because I know exactly what goes in it... and

>> it's just soap nuts and water lol.>>>> On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 2:29 PM, karla walsh <faerie1952@...>>> wrote:

>>>> Hullo Monika, The polysorbates are emulsifers to help mix water>> with oils. As mentioned, they are in so many things and products,>> including food. Polysorbate 20 being the least toxic, to the most

>> carconogenic, Polysorbate 85, *80* being the one which are in many>> vaccines.>> p-20>> http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/906301/toxic_chemicals_in_vaccines_polysorbate.html?cat=71

>> p-80>> http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/907819/polysorbate_80_in_vaccines_a_potentially.html?cat=70

>>>> http://www.cosmeticsinfo.org/ingredient_more_details.php?ingredient_id=454>>>> Informed choice, vaccine cocktails

>> http://www.informedchoice.info/cocktail.html>>>> It is just about too scary to put anything on yer skin but soap and

>> water, but even soap and water holds dangers these days. Consider>> making your own household and personal soaps and shampoos. shampoo>> bars and conditioners etc. Many recipies out there. And natural

>> deoderants, room deoderizers and even simple, age-old baby products>> from around the house. Much safer than commercial Anything.>> Glad Day - Karla in IL>>>>>>

>>>>> ------------------------------------>>

[Guest guest]

I get my soapnuts from

www.superiorsoapnuts.com I had met a lady who started selling them and she just opened this website.

The shampoo/conditioner I use is by Desert Essence.

Here is the ingredients from the conditioner:

Aqueous infusion of certified organic extract of Rubus Idaeus (raspberry) lead, certified organic simmondsia chinensis (jojoba) seed oil, emulsifying wax (vegetable derived) prunus amygdalus dulcis (sweet almond) protein, polyquaternium-7, proprietary blend of natural essential oils, potassium gluconate, potassium sorbate, phenoxyethanol.

Hmm so there are a few things in there that don't seem too natural but I'm not positive. Anybody care to analyze this?

On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 8:25 PM, Theresa <tgeorge1@...> wrote:

PS - I guess I should have asked you for the person/family/etc that manufactures or packages these products. Are they available beyond your local area?ThankstOn Sep 3, 2008, at 3:55 PM, Theresa wrote:

> Hi Monika - can you tell us the brand names of the shampoo, etc?>> Thanks,>> t

>>> On Sep 3, 2008, at 9:07 AM, Monika Reign B. wrote:>>>>> Yeah I don't use commercial anything. Our shampoo and conditioner>> is the only thing that is packaged/made by someone else and they

>> contain nothing but some plant and vegetable ingredients. I didn't>> read anything polysorbate in either of them.>> For everything else I use soapnuts and made my own liquid soap out>> of them.

>>>> They are GREAT and I recommend them to anyone. They make GREAT baby/>> children's shampoo. I use it on my son instead of the vegetable>> derived stuff just because I know exactly what goes in it... and

>> it's just soap nuts and water lol.>>>> On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 2:29 PM, karla walsh <faerie1952@...>>> wrote:

>>>> Hullo Monika, The polysorbates are emulsifers to help mix water>> with oils. As mentioned, they are in so many things and products,>> including food. Polysorbate 20 being the least toxic, to the most

>> carconogenic, Polysorbate 85, *80* being the one which are in many>> vaccines.>> p-20>> http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/906301/toxic_chemicals_in_vaccines_polysorbate.html?cat=71

>> p-80>> http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/907819/polysorbate_80_in_vaccines_a_potentially.html?cat=70

>>>> http://www.cosmeticsinfo.org/ingredient_more_details.php?ingredient_id=454>>>> Informed choice, vaccine cocktails

>> http://www.informedchoice.info/cocktail.html>>>> It is just about too scary to put anything on yer skin but soap and

>> water, but even soap and water holds dangers these days. Consider>> making your own household and personal soaps and shampoos. shampoo>> bars and conditioners etc. Many recipies out there. And natural

>> deoderants, room deoderizers and even simple, age-old baby products>> from around the house. Much safer than commercial Anything.>> Glad Day - Karla in IL>>>>>>

>>>>> ------------------------------------>>

[Guest guest]

Here is quite a comprehensive list

http://100777.com/node/1117

Phenoxyethanol is also contained in vaccines:

http://text.vaccineriskawareness.com/Vaccines-And-How-They-Are-Made

2-Phenoxyethanol: This is the ingredient that has replaced thimerosal. It can cause systematic poisoning, headache, shock, weakness, convulsions, kidney damage, kidney failure, cardiac failure, death. The Ethylene Oxide component is a skin irritant also responsible for causing burns, blisters, dermatitis, and eczema conditions (according to vaccine data sheet toxicology notes and Marshall Sittig, Handbook of Toxic and Hazardous Chemicals and Carcinogens, 2nd Ed. (Park Ridge, NJ: Noyes Publications, 1985).

I get my soapnuts from

www.superiorsoapnuts.com I had met a lady who started selling them and she just opened this website.

The shampoo/conditioner I use is by Desert Essence.

Here is the ingredients from the conditioner:

Aqueous infusion of certified organic extract of Rubus Idaeus (raspberry) lead, certified organic simmondsia chinensis (jojoba) seed oil, emulsifying wax (vegetable derived) prunus amygdalus dulcis (sweet almond) protein, polyquaternium-7, proprietary blend of natural essential oils, potassium gluconate, potassium sorbate, phenoxyethanol.

Hmm so there are a few things in there that don't seem too natural but I'm not positive. Anybody care to analyze this?

On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 8:25 PM, Theresa <tgeorge1@...> wrote:

PS - I guess I should have asked you for the person/family/etc that manufactures or packages these products. Are they available beyond your local area?ThankstOn Sep 3, 2008, at 3:55 PM, Theresa wrote:> Hi Monika - can you tell us the brand names of the shampoo, etc?>> Thanks,>> t

>>> On Sep 3, 2008, at 9:07 AM, Monika Reign B. wrote:>>>>> Yeah I don't use commercial anything. Our shampoo and conditioner>> is the only thing that is packaged/made by someone else and they>> contain nothing but some plant and vegetable ingredients. I didn't>> read anything polysorbate in either of them.>> For everything else I use soapnuts and made my own liquid soap out>> of them.>>>> They are GREAT and I recommend them to anyone. They make GREAT baby/>> children's shampoo. I use it on my son instead of the vegetable>> derived stuff just because I know exactly what goes in it... and>> it's just soap nuts and water lol.>>>> On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 2:29 PM, karla walsh <faerie1952@...>>> wrote:>>>> Hullo Monika, The polysorbates are emulsifers to help mix water>> with oils. As mentioned, they are in so many things and products,>> including food. Polysorbate 20 being the least toxic, to the most>> carconogenic, Polysorbate 85, *80* being the one which are in many>> vaccines.>> p-20>> http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/906301/toxic_chemicals_in_vaccines_polysorbate.html?cat=71>> p-80>> http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/907819/polysorbate_80_in_vaccines_a_potentially.html?cat=70>>>> http://www.cosmeticsinfo.org/ingredient_more_details.php?ingredient_id=454>>>> Informed choice, vaccine cocktails>> http://www.informedchoice.info/cocktail.html>>>> It is just about too scary to put anything on yer skin but soap and>> water, but even soap and water holds dangers these days. Consider>> making your own household and personal soaps and shampoos. shampoo>> bars and conditioners etc. Many recipies out there. And natural>> deoderants, room deoderizers and even simple, age-old baby products>> from around the house. Much safer than commercial Anything.>> Glad Day - Karla in IL>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------>>

[Guest guest]

Here is quite a comprehensive list

http://100777.com/node/1117

Phenoxyethanol is also contained in vaccines:

http://text.vaccineriskawareness.com/Vaccines-And-How-They-Are-Made

2-Phenoxyethanol: This is the ingredient that has replaced thimerosal. It can cause systematic poisoning, headache, shock, weakness, convulsions, kidney damage, kidney failure, cardiac failure, death. The Ethylene Oxide component is a skin irritant also responsible for causing burns, blisters, dermatitis, and eczema conditions (according to vaccine data sheet toxicology notes and Marshall Sittig, Handbook of Toxic and Hazardous Chemicals and Carcinogens, 2nd Ed. (Park Ridge, NJ: Noyes Publications, 1985).

I get my soapnuts from

www.superiorsoapnuts.com I had met a lady who started selling them and she just opened this website.

The shampoo/conditioner I use is by Desert Essence.

Here is the ingredients from the conditioner:

Aqueous infusion of certified organic extract of Rubus Idaeus (raspberry) lead, certified organic simmondsia chinensis (jojoba) seed oil, emulsifying wax (vegetable derived) prunus amygdalus dulcis (sweet almond) protein, polyquaternium-7, proprietary blend of natural essential oils, potassium gluconate, potassium sorbate, phenoxyethanol.

Hmm so there are a few things in there that don't seem too natural but I'm not positive. Anybody care to analyze this?

On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 8:25 PM, Theresa <tgeorge1@...> wrote:

PS - I guess I should have asked you for the person/family/etc that manufactures or packages these products. Are they available beyond your local area?ThankstOn Sep 3, 2008, at 3:55 PM, Theresa wrote:> Hi Monika - can you tell us the brand names of the shampoo, etc?>> Thanks,>> t

>>> On Sep 3, 2008, at 9:07 AM, Monika Reign B. wrote:>>>>> Yeah I don't use commercial anything. Our shampoo and conditioner>> is the only thing that is packaged/made by someone else and they>> contain nothing but some plant and vegetable ingredients. I didn't>> read anything polysorbate in either of them.>> For everything else I use soapnuts and made my own liquid soap out>> of them.>>>> They are GREAT and I recommend them to anyone. They make GREAT baby/>> children's shampoo. I use it on my son instead of the vegetable>> derived stuff just because I know exactly what goes in it... and>> it's just soap nuts and water lol.>>>> On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 2:29 PM, karla walsh <faerie1952@...>>> wrote:>>>> Hullo Monika, The polysorbates are emulsifers to help mix water>> with oils. As mentioned, they are in so many things and products,>> including food. Polysorbate 20 being the least toxic, to the most>> carconogenic, Polysorbate 85, *80* being the one which are in many>> vaccines.>> p-20>> http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/906301/toxic_chemicals_in_vaccines_polysorbate.html?cat=71>> p-80>> http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/907819/polysorbate_80_in_vaccines_a_potentially.html?cat=70>>>> http://www.cosmeticsinfo.org/ingredient_more_details.php?ingredient_id=454>>>> Informed choice, vaccine cocktails>> http://www.informedchoice.info/cocktail.html>>>> It is just about too scary to put anything on yer skin but soap and>> water, but even soap and water holds dangers these days. Consider>> making your own household and personal soaps and shampoos. shampoo>> bars and conditioners etc. Many recipies out there. And natural>> deoderants, room deoderizers and even simple, age-old baby products>> from around the house. Much safer than commercial Anything.>> Glad Day - Karla in IL>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------>>

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oh for F**k's sake.

This was the only conditioner I could find that I am able to use because of gluten and sunflower allergies. Damnit.

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 12:42 AM, Ingrid Blank <enb1@...> wrote:

Here is quite a comprehensive list

http://100777.com/node/1117

Phenoxyethanol is also contained in vaccines:

http://text.vaccineriskawareness.com/Vaccines-And-How-They-Are-Made

2-Phenoxyethanol: This is the ingredient that has replaced thimerosal. It can cause systematic poisoning, headache, shock, weakness, convulsions, kidney damage, kidney failure, cardiac failure, death.

The Ethylene Oxide component is a skin irritant also responsible for causing burns, blisters, dermatitis, and eczema conditions (according to vaccine data sheet toxicology notes and Marshall Sittig, Handbook of Toxic and Hazardous Chemicals and Carcinogens, 2nd Ed. (Park Ridge, NJ: Noyes Publications, 1985).

I get my soapnuts from

www.superiorsoapnuts.com I had met a lady who started selling them and she just opened this website.

The shampoo/conditioner I use is by Desert Essence.

Here is the ingredients from the conditioner:

Aqueous infusion of certified organic extract of Rubus Idaeus (raspberry) lead, certified organic simmondsia chinensis (jojoba) seed oil, emulsifying wax (vegetable derived) prunus amygdalus dulcis (sweet almond) protein, polyquaternium-7, proprietary blend of natural essential oils, potassium gluconate, potassium sorbate, phenoxyethanol.

Hmm so there are a few things in there that don't seem too natural but I'm not positive. Anybody care to analyze this?

On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 8:25 PM, Theresa <tgeorge1@...> wrote:

PS - I guess I should have asked you for the person/family/etc that manufactures or packages these products. Are they available beyond your local area?ThankstOn Sep 3, 2008, at 3:55 PM, Theresa wrote:

> Hi Monika - can you tell us the brand names of the shampoo, etc?>> Thanks,>> t

>>> On Sep 3, 2008, at 9:07 AM, Monika Reign B. wrote:>>>>> Yeah I don't use commercial anything. Our shampoo and conditioner>> is the only thing that is packaged/made by someone else and they

>> contain nothing but some plant and vegetable ingredients. I didn't>> read anything polysorbate in either of them.>> For everything else I use soapnuts and made my own liquid soap out>> of them.

>>>> They are GREAT and I recommend them to anyone. They make GREAT baby/>> children's shampoo. I use it on my son instead of the vegetable>> derived stuff just because I know exactly what goes in it... and

>> it's just soap nuts and water lol.>>>> On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 2:29 PM, karla walsh <faerie1952@...>>> wrote:

>>>> Hullo Monika, The polysorbates are emulsifers to help mix water>> with oils. As mentioned, they are in so many things and products,>> including food. Polysorbate 20 being the least toxic, to the most

>> carconogenic, Polysorbate 85, *80* being the one which are in many>> vaccines.>> p-20>> http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/906301/toxic_chemicals_in_vaccines_polysorbate.html?cat=71

>> p-80>> http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/907819/polysorbate_80_in_vaccines_a_potentially.html?cat=70

>>>> http://www.cosmeticsinfo.org/ingredient_more_details.php?ingredient_id=454>>>> Informed choice, vaccine cocktails

>> http://www.informedchoice.info/cocktail.html>>>> It is just about too scary to put anything on yer skin but soap and

>> water, but even soap and water holds dangers these days. Consider>> making your own household and personal soaps and shampoos. shampoo>> bars and conditioners etc. Many recipies out there. And natural

>> deoderants, room deoderizers and even simple, age-old baby products>> from around the house. Much safer than commercial Anything.>> Glad Day - Karla in IL>>>>>>

>>>>> ------------------------------------>>

[Guest guest]

oh for F**k's sake.

This was the only conditioner I could find that I am able to use because of gluten and sunflower allergies. Damnit.

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 12:42 AM, Ingrid Blank <enb1@...> wrote:

Here is quite a comprehensive list

http://100777.com/node/1117

Phenoxyethanol is also contained in vaccines:

http://text.vaccineriskawareness.com/Vaccines-And-How-They-Are-Made

2-Phenoxyethanol: This is the ingredient that has replaced thimerosal. It can cause systematic poisoning, headache, shock, weakness, convulsions, kidney damage, kidney failure, cardiac failure, death.

The Ethylene Oxide component is a skin irritant also responsible for causing burns, blisters, dermatitis, and eczema conditions (according to vaccine data sheet toxicology notes and Marshall Sittig, Handbook of Toxic and Hazardous Chemicals and Carcinogens, 2nd Ed. (Park Ridge, NJ: Noyes Publications, 1985).

I get my soapnuts from

www.superiorsoapnuts.com I had met a lady who started selling them and she just opened this website.

The shampoo/conditioner I use is by Desert Essence.

Here is the ingredients from the conditioner:

Aqueous infusion of certified organic extract of Rubus Idaeus (raspberry) lead, certified organic simmondsia chinensis (jojoba) seed oil, emulsifying wax (vegetable derived) prunus amygdalus dulcis (sweet almond) protein, polyquaternium-7, proprietary blend of natural essential oils, potassium gluconate, potassium sorbate, phenoxyethanol.

Hmm so there are a few things in there that don't seem too natural but I'm not positive. Anybody care to analyze this?

On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 8:25 PM, Theresa <tgeorge1@...> wrote:

PS - I guess I should have asked you for the person/family/etc that manufactures or packages these products. Are they available beyond your local area?ThankstOn Sep 3, 2008, at 3:55 PM, Theresa wrote:

> Hi Monika - can you tell us the brand names of the shampoo, etc?>> Thanks,>> t

>>> On Sep 3, 2008, at 9:07 AM, Monika Reign B. wrote:>>>>> Yeah I don't use commercial anything. Our shampoo and conditioner>> is the only thing that is packaged/made by someone else and they

>> contain nothing but some plant and vegetable ingredients. I didn't>> read anything polysorbate in either of them.>> For everything else I use soapnuts and made my own liquid soap out>> of them.

>>>> They are GREAT and I recommend them to anyone. They make GREAT baby/>> children's shampoo. I use it on my son instead of the vegetable>> derived stuff just because I know exactly what goes in it... and

>> it's just soap nuts and water lol.>>>> On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 2:29 PM, karla walsh <faerie1952@...>>> wrote:

>>>> Hullo Monika, The polysorbates are emulsifers to help mix water>> with oils. As mentioned, they are in so many things and products,>> including food. Polysorbate 20 being the least toxic, to the most

>> carconogenic, Polysorbate 85, *80* being the one which are in many>> vaccines.>> p-20>> http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/906301/toxic_chemicals_in_vaccines_polysorbate.html?cat=71

>> p-80>> http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/907819/polysorbate_80_in_vaccines_a_potentially.html?cat=70

>>>> http://www.cosmeticsinfo.org/ingredient_more_details.php?ingredient_id=454>>>> Informed choice, vaccine cocktails

>> http://www.informedchoice.info/cocktail.html>>>> It is just about too scary to put anything on yer skin but soap and

>> water, but even soap and water holds dangers these days. Consider>> making your own household and personal soaps and shampoos. shampoo>> bars and conditioners etc. Many recipies out there. And natural

>> deoderants, room deoderizers and even simple, age-old baby products>> from around the house. Much safer than commercial Anything.>> Glad Day - Karla in IL>>>>>>

>>>>> ------------------------------------>>

[Guest guest]

Hi Monika,

I've just posted this link to another friend.

http://www.coconutresearchcenter.org/

In case you haven't discovered the "wonders" of virgin cold-pressed coconut oil yet......it's also a wonderful skin moisturizer and sunscreen.

Ingrid

oh for F**k's sake.

This was the only conditioner I could find that I am able to use because of gluten and sunflower allergies. Damnit.

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 12:42 AM, Ingrid Blank <enb1@...> wrote:

Here is quite a comprehensive list

http://100777.com/node/1117

Phenoxyethanol is also contained in vaccines:

http://text.vaccineriskawareness.com/Vaccines-And-How-They-Are-Made

2-Phenoxyethanol: This is the ingredient that has replaced thimerosal. It can cause systematic poisoning, headache, shock, weakness, convulsions, kidney damage, kidney failure, cardiac failure, death. The Ethylene Oxide component is a skin irritant also responsible for causing burns, blisters, dermatitis, and eczema conditions (according to vaccine data sheet toxicology notes and Marshall Sittig, Handbook of Toxic and Hazardous Chemicals and Carcinogens, 2nd Ed. (Park Ridge, NJ: Noyes Publications, 1985).

I get my soapnuts from

www.superiorsoapnuts.com I had met a lady who started selling them and she just opened this website.

The shampoo/conditioner I use is by Desert Essence.

Here is the ingredients from the conditioner:

Aqueous infusion of certified organic extract of Rubus Idaeus (raspberry) lead, certified organic simmondsia chinensis (jojoba) seed oil, emulsifying wax (vegetable derived) prunus amygdalus dulcis (sweet almond) protein, polyquaternium-7, proprietary blend of natural essential oils, potassium gluconate, potassium sorbate, phenoxyethanol.

Hmm so there are a few things in there that don't seem too natural but I'm not positive. Anybody care to analyze this?

On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 8:25 PM, Theresa <tgeorge1@...> wrote:

PS - I guess I should have asked you for the person/family/etc that manufactures or packages these products. Are they available beyond your local area?ThankstOn Sep 3, 2008, at 3:55 PM, Theresa wrote:> Hi Monika - can you tell us the brand names of the shampoo, etc?>> Thanks,>> t

>>> On Sep 3, 2008, at 9:07 AM, Monika Reign B. wrote:>>>>> Yeah I don't use commercial anything. Our shampoo and conditioner>> is the only thing that is packaged/made by someone else and they>> contain nothing but some plant and vegetable ingredients. I didn't>> read anything polysorbate in either of them.>> For everything else I use soapnuts and made my own liquid soap out>> of them.>>>> They are GREAT and I recommend them to anyone. They make GREAT baby/>> children's shampoo. I use it on my son instead of the vegetable>> derived stuff just because I know exactly what goes in it... and>> it's just soap nuts and water lol.>>>> On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 2:29 PM, karla walsh <faerie1952@...>>> wrote:>>>> Hullo Monika, The polysorbates are emulsifers to help mix water>> with oils. As mentioned, they are in so many things and products,>> including food. Polysorbate 20 being the least toxic, to the most>> carconogenic, Polysorbate 85, *80* being the one which are in many>> vaccines.>> p-20>> http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/906301/toxic_chemicals_in_vaccines_polysorbate.html?cat=71>> p-80>> http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/907819/polysorbate_80_in_vaccines_a_potentially.html?cat=70>>>> http://www.cosmeticsinfo.org/ingredient_more_details.php?ingredient_id=454>>>> Informed choice, vaccine cocktails>> http://www.informedchoice.info/cocktail.html>>>> It is just about too scary to put anything on yer skin but soap and>> water, but even soap and water holds dangers these days. Consider>> making your own household and personal soaps and shampoos. shampoo>> bars and conditioners etc. Many recipies out there. And natural>> deoderants, room deoderizers and even simple, age-old baby products>> from around the house. Much safer than commercial Anything.>> Glad Day - Karla in IL>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------>>

[Guest guest]

Hi Monika,

I've just posted this link to another friend.

http://www.coconutresearchcenter.org/

In case you haven't discovered the "wonders" of virgin cold-pressed coconut oil yet......it's also a wonderful skin moisturizer and sunscreen.

Ingrid

oh for F**k's sake.

This was the only conditioner I could find that I am able to use because of gluten and sunflower allergies. Damnit.

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 12:42 AM, Ingrid Blank <enb1@...> wrote:

Here is quite a comprehensive list

http://100777.com/node/1117

Phenoxyethanol is also contained in vaccines:

http://text.vaccineriskawareness.com/Vaccines-And-How-They-Are-Made

2-Phenoxyethanol: This is the ingredient that has replaced thimerosal. It can cause systematic poisoning, headache, shock, weakness, convulsions, kidney damage, kidney failure, cardiac failure, death. The Ethylene Oxide component is a skin irritant also responsible for causing burns, blisters, dermatitis, and eczema conditions (according to vaccine data sheet toxicology notes and Marshall Sittig, Handbook of Toxic and Hazardous Chemicals and Carcinogens, 2nd Ed. (Park Ridge, NJ: Noyes Publications, 1985).

I get my soapnuts from

www.superiorsoapnuts.com I had met a lady who started selling them and she just opened this website.

The shampoo/conditioner I use is by Desert Essence.

Here is the ingredients from the conditioner:

Aqueous infusion of certified organic extract of Rubus Idaeus (raspberry) lead, certified organic simmondsia chinensis (jojoba) seed oil, emulsifying wax (vegetable derived) prunus amygdalus dulcis (sweet almond) protein, polyquaternium-7, proprietary blend of natural essential oils, potassium gluconate, potassium sorbate, phenoxyethanol.

Hmm so there are a few things in there that don't seem too natural but I'm not positive. Anybody care to analyze this?

On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 8:25 PM, Theresa <tgeorge1@...> wrote:

PS - I guess I should have asked you for the person/family/etc that manufactures or packages these products. Are they available beyond your local area?ThankstOn Sep 3, 2008, at 3:55 PM, Theresa wrote:> Hi Monika - can you tell us the brand names of the shampoo, etc?>> Thanks,>> t

>>> On Sep 3, 2008, at 9:07 AM, Monika Reign B. wrote:>>>>> Yeah I don't use commercial anything. Our shampoo and conditioner>> is the only thing that is packaged/made by someone else and they>> contain nothing but some plant and vegetable ingredients. I didn't>> read anything polysorbate in either of them.>> For everything else I use soapnuts and made my own liquid soap out>> of them.>>>> They are GREAT and I recommend them to anyone. They make GREAT baby/>> children's shampoo. I use it on my son instead of the vegetable>> derived stuff just because I know exactly what goes in it... and>> it's just soap nuts and water lol.>>>> On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 2:29 PM, karla walsh <faerie1952@...>>> wrote:>>>> Hullo Monika, The polysorbates are emulsifers to help mix water>> with oils. As mentioned, they are in so many things and products,>> including food. Polysorbate 20 being the least toxic, to the most>> carconogenic, Polysorbate 85, *80* being the one which are in many>> vaccines.>> p-20>> http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/906301/toxic_chemicals_in_vaccines_polysorbate.html?cat=71>> p-80>> http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/907819/polysorbate_80_in_vaccines_a_potentially.html?cat=70>>>> http://www.cosmeticsinfo.org/ingredient_more_details.php?ingredient_id=454>>>> Informed choice, vaccine cocktails>> http://www.informedchoice.info/cocktail.html>>>> It is just about too scary to put anything on yer skin but soap and>> water, but even soap and water holds dangers these days. Consider>> making your own household and personal soaps and shampoos. shampoo>> bars and conditioners etc. Many recipies out there. And natural>> deoderants, room deoderizers and even simple, age-old baby products>> from around the house. Much safer than commercial Anything.>> Glad Day - Karla in IL>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------>>

[Guest guest]

we're allergic to coconut! that's my main problem with this stuff. I find something natural but it's got an allergen in it.

Hopefully the homeopathy will clear up the allergies and we can use the stuff again.

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 3:00 PM, Ingrid Blank <enb1@...> wrote:

Hi Monika,

I've just posted this link to another friend.

http://www.coconutresearchcenter.org/

In case you haven't discovered the " wonders " of virgin cold-pressed coconut oil yet......it's also a wonderful skin moisturizer and sunscreen.

Ingrid

oh for F**k's sake.

This was the only conditioner I could find that I am able to use because of gluten and sunflower allergies. Damnit.

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 12:42 AM, Ingrid Blank <enb1@...> wrote:

Here is quite a comprehensive list

http://100777.com/node/1117

Phenoxyethanol is also contained in vaccines:

http://text.vaccineriskawareness.com/Vaccines-And-How-They-Are-Made

2-Phenoxyethanol: This is the ingredient that has replaced thimerosal. It can cause systematic poisoning, headache, shock, weakness, convulsions, kidney damage, kidney failure, cardiac failure, death.

The Ethylene Oxide component is a skin irritant also responsible for causing burns, blisters, dermatitis, and eczema conditions (according to vaccine data sheet toxicology notes and Marshall Sittig, Handbook of Toxic and Hazardous Chemicals and Carcinogens, 2nd Ed. (Park Ridge, NJ: Noyes Publications, 1985).

I get my soapnuts from

www.superiorsoapnuts.com I had met a lady who started selling them and she just opened this website.

The shampoo/conditioner I use is by Desert Essence.

Here is the ingredients from the conditioner:

Aqueous infusion of certified organic extract of Rubus Idaeus (raspberry) lead, certified organic simmondsia chinensis (jojoba) seed oil, emulsifying wax (vegetable derived) prunus amygdalus dulcis (sweet almond) protein, polyquaternium-7, proprietary blend of natural essential oils, potassium gluconate, potassium sorbate, phenoxyethanol.

Hmm so there are a few things in there that don't seem too natural but I'm not positive. Anybody care to analyze this?

On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 8:25 PM, Theresa <tgeorge1@...> wrote:

PS - I guess I should have asked you for the person/family/etc that manufactures or packages these products. Are they available beyond your local area?ThankstOn Sep 3, 2008, at 3:55 PM, Theresa wrote:

> Hi Monika - can you tell us the brand names of the shampoo, etc?>> Thanks,>> t

>>> On Sep 3, 2008, at 9:07 AM, Monika Reign B. wrote:>>>>> Yeah I don't use commercial anything. Our shampoo and conditioner>> is the only thing that is packaged/made by someone else and they

>> contain nothing but some plant and vegetable ingredients. I didn't>> read anything polysorbate in either of them.>> For everything else I use soapnuts and made my own liquid soap out>> of them.

>>>> They are GREAT and I recommend them to anyone. They make GREAT baby/>> children's shampoo. I use it on my son instead of the vegetable>> derived stuff just because I know exactly what goes in it... and

>> it's just soap nuts and water lol.>>>> On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 2:29 PM, karla walsh <faerie1952@...>>> wrote:

>>>> Hullo Monika, The polysorbates are emulsifers to help mix water>> with oils. As mentioned, they are in so many things and products,>> including food. Polysorbate 20 being the least toxic, to the most

>> carconogenic, Polysorbate 85, *80* being the one which are in many>> vaccines.>> p-20>> http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/906301/toxic_chemicals_in_vaccines_polysorbate.html?cat=71

>> p-80>> http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/907819/polysorbate_80_in_vaccines_a_potentially.html?cat=70

>>>> http://www.cosmeticsinfo.org/ingredient_more_details.php?ingredient_id=454>>>> Informed choice, vaccine cocktails

>> http://www.informedchoice.info/cocktail.html>>>> It is just about too scary to put anything on yer skin but soap and

>> water, but even soap and water holds dangers these days. Consider>> making your own household and personal soaps and shampoos. shampoo>> bars and conditioners etc. Many recipies out there. And natural

>> deoderants, room deoderizers and even simple, age-old baby products>> from around the house. Much safer than commercial Anything.>> Glad Day - Karla in IL>>>>>>

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we're allergic to coconut! that's my main problem with this stuff. I find something natural but it's got an allergen in it.

Hopefully the homeopathy will clear up the allergies and we can use the stuff again.

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 3:00 PM, Ingrid Blank <enb1@...> wrote:

Hi Monika,

I've just posted this link to another friend.

http://www.coconutresearchcenter.org/

In case you haven't discovered the " wonders " of virgin cold-pressed coconut oil yet......it's also a wonderful skin moisturizer and sunscreen.

Ingrid

oh for F**k's sake.

This was the only conditioner I could find that I am able to use because of gluten and sunflower allergies. Damnit.

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 12:42 AM, Ingrid Blank <enb1@...> wrote:

Here is quite a comprehensive list

http://100777.com/node/1117

Phenoxyethanol is also contained in vaccines:

http://text.vaccineriskawareness.com/Vaccines-And-How-They-Are-Made

2-Phenoxyethanol: This is the ingredient that has replaced thimerosal. It can cause systematic poisoning, headache, shock, weakness, convulsions, kidney damage, kidney failure, cardiac failure, death.

The Ethylene Oxide component is a skin irritant also responsible for causing burns, blisters, dermatitis, and eczema conditions (according to vaccine data sheet toxicology notes and Marshall Sittig, Handbook of Toxic and Hazardous Chemicals and Carcinogens, 2nd Ed. (Park Ridge, NJ: Noyes Publications, 1985).

I get my soapnuts from

www.superiorsoapnuts.com I had met a lady who started selling them and she just opened this website.

The shampoo/conditioner I use is by Desert Essence.

Here is the ingredients from the conditioner:

Aqueous infusion of certified organic extract of Rubus Idaeus (raspberry) lead, certified organic simmondsia chinensis (jojoba) seed oil, emulsifying wax (vegetable derived) prunus amygdalus dulcis (sweet almond) protein, polyquaternium-7, proprietary blend of natural essential oils, potassium gluconate, potassium sorbate, phenoxyethanol.

Hmm so there are a few things in there that don't seem too natural but I'm not positive. Anybody care to analyze this?

On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 8:25 PM, Theresa <tgeorge1@...> wrote:

PS - I guess I should have asked you for the person/family/etc that manufactures or packages these products. Are they available beyond your local area?ThankstOn Sep 3, 2008, at 3:55 PM, Theresa wrote:

> Hi Monika - can you tell us the brand names of the shampoo, etc?>> Thanks,>> t

>>> On Sep 3, 2008, at 9:07 AM, Monika Reign B. wrote:>>>>> Yeah I don't use commercial anything. Our shampoo and conditioner>> is the only thing that is packaged/made by someone else and they

>> contain nothing but some plant and vegetable ingredients. I didn't>> read anything polysorbate in either of them.>> For everything else I use soapnuts and made my own liquid soap out>> of them.

>>>> They are GREAT and I recommend them to anyone. They make GREAT baby/>> children's shampoo. I use it on my son instead of the vegetable>> derived stuff just because I know exactly what goes in it... and

>> it's just soap nuts and water lol.>>>> On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 2:29 PM, karla walsh <faerie1952@...>>> wrote:

>>>> Hullo Monika, The polysorbates are emulsifers to help mix water>> with oils. As mentioned, they are in so many things and products,>> including food. Polysorbate 20 being the least toxic, to the most

>> carconogenic, Polysorbate 85, *80* being the one which are in many>> vaccines.>> p-20>> http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/906301/toxic_chemicals_in_vaccines_polysorbate.html?cat=71

>> p-80>> http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/907819/polysorbate_80_in_vaccines_a_potentially.html?cat=70

>>>> http://www.cosmeticsinfo.org/ingredient_more_details.php?ingredient_id=454>>>> Informed choice, vaccine cocktails

>> http://www.informedchoice.info/cocktail.html>>>> It is just about too scary to put anything on yer skin but soap and

>> water, but even soap and water holds dangers these days. Consider>> making your own household and personal soaps and shampoos. shampoo>> bars and conditioners etc. Many recipies out there. And natural

>> deoderants, room deoderizers and even simple, age-old baby products>> from around the house. Much safer than commercial Anything.>> Glad Day - Karla in IL>>>>>>

>>>>> ------------------------------------>>