Guest guest Posted January 6, 2008 Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 This study has been out for a while now. And there are others that support your thoughts that they do not provide protection from the flu. First there was a flu shot shortage. Now there's a surplus. And once again, you're being urged to get your flu shot before it's too late! They insist your health is in serious trouble if you don’t get the vaccine. What they aren't telling you is that your health is in danger if you do get the flu shot. You read that right! New evidence shows that the flu shot can actually cause Alzheimer's disease. Consider what Hugh Fudenburg, (www.nitrf.org/fudenberg.html), the world's leading geneticist with hundreds of original publications, has to say about the flu vaccine: "We have found that clinically normal individuals aged 60-65 who receive influenza vaccine three or four times during a five-year period, will five years later have an incidence of Alzheimer's disease 10-fold greater than age-matched individuals who did not receive it." here is the page quoted above http://www.secondopinionnewsletter.com/alert-detail.php?ha_id=10 Mavis "The only true gift is a portion of thyself."Ralph Waldo Emerson In a message dated 1/7/2008 6:48:29 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, tamarque@... writes: Dear Dr. Lynda I have to question your support for vaccines for the elderly with their weaker immune systems--as you note. First, isn't it exactly that weaker state of being that indicates NOT to vaccinate? And second, what evidence is there that vaccinating immune compromised older people is beneficial to them? Marquette Tamarqueearthlink (DOT) netStart the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2008 Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 This study has been out for a while now. And there are others that support your thoughts that they do not provide protection from the flu. First there was a flu shot shortage. Now there's a surplus. And once again, you're being urged to get your flu shot before it's too late! They insist your health is in serious trouble if you don’t get the vaccine. What they aren't telling you is that your health is in danger if you do get the flu shot. You read that right! New evidence shows that the flu shot can actually cause Alzheimer's disease. Consider what Hugh Fudenburg, (www.nitrf.org/fudenberg.html), the world's leading geneticist with hundreds of original publications, has to say about the flu vaccine: "We have found that clinically normal individuals aged 60-65 who receive influenza vaccine three or four times during a five-year period, will five years later have an incidence of Alzheimer's disease 10-fold greater than age-matched individuals who did not receive it." here is the page quoted above http://www.secondopinionnewsletter.com/alert-detail.php?ha_id=10 Mavis "The only true gift is a portion of thyself."Ralph Waldo Emerson In a message dated 1/7/2008 6:48:29 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, tamarque@... writes: Dear Dr. Lynda I have to question your support for vaccines for the elderly with their weaker immune systems--as you note. First, isn't it exactly that weaker state of being that indicates NOT to vaccinate? And second, what evidence is there that vaccinating immune compromised older people is beneficial to them? Marquette Tamarqueearthlink (DOT) netStart the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 Dear Dr. Lynda I have to question your support for vaccines for the elderly with their weaker immune systems--as you note. First, isn't it exactly that weaker state of being that indicates NOT to vaccinate? And second, what evidence is there that vaccinating immune compromised older people is beneficial to them? Marquette Tamarque@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 Dear Dr. Lynda I have to question your support for vaccines for the elderly with their weaker immune systems--as you note. First, isn't it exactly that weaker state of being that indicates NOT to vaccinate? And second, what evidence is there that vaccinating immune compromised older people is beneficial to them? Marquette Tamarque@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 Do you by chance know which religions don't support vaccines? My Son is 3 and will be starting school soon and I really don't want him to be exposed to the vaccines that are required to start school here in Chicago. Thanks in advance. BridgetteLynda Hardin-Poston <ishop2k@...> wrote: The problem with that is that people tend to cower when faced with the possibility of a legal battle. The cost would be prohibitive and the powers that be know that. They use intimidation tactics to try to get you to capitulate. The easiest way is to belong to a religion that clearly denounces immunizations, then they haven't a leg to stand on and you don't have to go thorough a protracted battle with them. Why make it harder than it has to be? I'm all for fighting the necessary battles, but I pick my battles. If I can do something that will get the same result without a battle, then I do it. I don't fight for the sake of fighting, that is counter productive. Dr. Lynda Hardin-Poston5109 Stotzer Pwy.College Station, TX 77845(979)260-1202Http://www.doctorlynda.comHealth, God's Way Re: vaccines for the elderly? It actually does not have to be a specific religion! What is has to be is sincerely held religious belief. You can hold a belief whether or not you go to any specific church or belong to any organized group. It is against our first amendment rights to have to justify a religious belief. As a Christian, it is not difficult to hold such convictions. One example would be that many vaccines are made using aborted fetal cells. If you believe the commandment, "Thou shall not kill" then you are certainly within your rights to decline vaccines for religious reasons. Another sincerely held religious belief might be that you place your ultimate faith in God to protect you rather than a pharmaceutical company and to do otherwise would be unfaithful of you, There is a big buzz right now about the numbers of parents applying for religious exemptions in order to avoid vaccinations. They do not want us to decline them because they make less money. Who has the biggest congressional lobby? Yep, the pharmaceutical industry so it isn't hard to determine who controls the laws and exemptions ultimately. Be aware of the possibility that whatever right you may have to choose now, may change and your rights will be paid for and determined by those with a financial interest. It is happening and the best that we can do is to be aware and continue to write to our elected officials who are supposed to be serving us and looking after our constitutional rights and not giving into the desires of those who finance their campaigns or other endeavors We each must educate ourselves as best we can about our own health choices and we darn sure better work to protect them or the choices will diminish one by one, Kindest Regards, Mavis "The only true gift is a portion of thyself."Ralph Waldo Emerson In a message dated 1/7/2008 3:27:58 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, ishop2kpeoplepc writes: This verifies my contention that you can object based on religious grounds. This has, generally, been the best route to get out of almost anything, including serving in the military during Viet Nam. The only catch, as stated on the web site, it must be a religion. Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year. Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 Do you by chance know which religions don't support vaccines? My Son is 3 and will be starting school soon and I really don't want him to be exposed to the vaccines that are required to start school here in Chicago. Thanks in advance. BridgetteLynda Hardin-Poston <ishop2k@...> wrote: The problem with that is that people tend to cower when faced with the possibility of a legal battle. The cost would be prohibitive and the powers that be know that. They use intimidation tactics to try to get you to capitulate. The easiest way is to belong to a religion that clearly denounces immunizations, then they haven't a leg to stand on and you don't have to go thorough a protracted battle with them. Why make it harder than it has to be? I'm all for fighting the necessary battles, but I pick my battles. If I can do something that will get the same result without a battle, then I do it. I don't fight for the sake of fighting, that is counter productive. Dr. Lynda Hardin-Poston5109 Stotzer Pwy.College Station, TX 77845(979)260-1202Http://www.doctorlynda.comHealth, God's Way Re: vaccines for the elderly? It actually does not have to be a specific religion! What is has to be is sincerely held religious belief. You can hold a belief whether or not you go to any specific church or belong to any organized group. It is against our first amendment rights to have to justify a religious belief. As a Christian, it is not difficult to hold such convictions. One example would be that many vaccines are made using aborted fetal cells. If you believe the commandment, "Thou shall not kill" then you are certainly within your rights to decline vaccines for religious reasons. Another sincerely held religious belief might be that you place your ultimate faith in God to protect you rather than a pharmaceutical company and to do otherwise would be unfaithful of you, There is a big buzz right now about the numbers of parents applying for religious exemptions in order to avoid vaccinations. They do not want us to decline them because they make less money. Who has the biggest congressional lobby? Yep, the pharmaceutical industry so it isn't hard to determine who controls the laws and exemptions ultimately. Be aware of the possibility that whatever right you may have to choose now, may change and your rights will be paid for and determined by those with a financial interest. It is happening and the best that we can do is to be aware and continue to write to our elected officials who are supposed to be serving us and looking after our constitutional rights and not giving into the desires of those who finance their campaigns or other endeavors We each must educate ourselves as best we can about our own health choices and we darn sure better work to protect them or the choices will diminish one by one, Kindest Regards, Mavis "The only true gift is a portion of thyself."Ralph Waldo Emerson In a message dated 1/7/2008 3:27:58 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, ishop2kpeoplepc writes: This verifies my contention that you can object based on religious grounds. This has, generally, been the best route to get out of almost anything, including serving in the military during Viet Nam. The only catch, as stated on the web site, it must be a religion. Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year. Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 Do you by chance know which religions don't support vaccines? My Son is 3 and will be starting school soon and I really don't want him to be exposed to the vaccines that are required to start school here in Chicago. Thanks in advance. BridgetteLynda Hardin-Poston <ishop2k@...> wrote: The problem with that is that people tend to cower when faced with the possibility of a legal battle. The cost would be prohibitive and the powers that be know that. They use intimidation tactics to try to get you to capitulate. The easiest way is to belong to a religion that clearly denounces immunizations, then they haven't a leg to stand on and you don't have to go thorough a protracted battle with them. Why make it harder than it has to be? I'm all for fighting the necessary battles, but I pick my battles. If I can do something that will get the same result without a battle, then I do it. I don't fight for the sake of fighting, that is counter productive. Dr. Lynda Hardin-Poston5109 Stotzer Pwy.College Station, TX 77845(979)260-1202Http://www.doctorlynda.comHealth, God's Way Re: vaccines for the elderly? It actually does not have to be a specific religion! What is has to be is sincerely held religious belief. You can hold a belief whether or not you go to any specific church or belong to any organized group. It is against our first amendment rights to have to justify a religious belief. As a Christian, it is not difficult to hold such convictions. One example would be that many vaccines are made using aborted fetal cells. If you believe the commandment, "Thou shall not kill" then you are certainly within your rights to decline vaccines for religious reasons. Another sincerely held religious belief might be that you place your ultimate faith in God to protect you rather than a pharmaceutical company and to do otherwise would be unfaithful of you, There is a big buzz right now about the numbers of parents applying for religious exemptions in order to avoid vaccinations. They do not want us to decline them because they make less money. Who has the biggest congressional lobby? Yep, the pharmaceutical industry so it isn't hard to determine who controls the laws and exemptions ultimately. Be aware of the possibility that whatever right you may have to choose now, may change and your rights will be paid for and determined by those with a financial interest. It is happening and the best that we can do is to be aware and continue to write to our elected officials who are supposed to be serving us and looking after our constitutional rights and not giving into the desires of those who finance their campaigns or other endeavors We each must educate ourselves as best we can about our own health choices and we darn sure better work to protect them or the choices will diminish one by one, Kindest Regards, Mavis "The only true gift is a portion of thyself."Ralph Waldo Emerson In a message dated 1/7/2008 3:27:58 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, ishop2kpeoplepc writes: This verifies my contention that you can object based on religious grounds. This has, generally, been the best route to get out of almost anything, including serving in the military during Viet Nam. The only catch, as stated on the web site, it must be a religion. Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year. Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 Do you by chance know which religions don't support vaccines? My Son is 3 and will be starting school soon and I really don't want him to be exposed to the vaccines that are required to start school here in Chicago. Thanks in advance. BridgetteLynda Hardin-Poston <ishop2k@...> wrote: The problem with that is that people tend to cower when faced with the possibility of a legal battle. The cost would be prohibitive and the powers that be know that. They use intimidation tactics to try to get you to capitulate. The easiest way is to belong to a religion that clearly denounces immunizations, then they haven't a leg to stand on and you don't have to go thorough a protracted battle with them. Why make it harder than it has to be? I'm all for fighting the necessary battles, but I pick my battles. If I can do something that will get the same result without a battle, then I do it. I don't fight for the sake of fighting, that is counter productive. Dr. Lynda Hardin-Poston5109 Stotzer Pwy.College Station, TX 77845(979)260-1202Http://www.doctorlynda.comHealth, God's Way Re: vaccines for the elderly? It actually does not have to be a specific religion! What is has to be is sincerely held religious belief. You can hold a belief whether or not you go to any specific church or belong to any organized group. It is against our first amendment rights to have to justify a religious belief. As a Christian, it is not difficult to hold such convictions. One example would be that many vaccines are made using aborted fetal cells. If you believe the commandment, "Thou shall not kill" then you are certainly within your rights to decline vaccines for religious reasons. Another sincerely held religious belief might be that you place your ultimate faith in God to protect you rather than a pharmaceutical company and to do otherwise would be unfaithful of you, There is a big buzz right now about the numbers of parents applying for religious exemptions in order to avoid vaccinations. They do not want us to decline them because they make less money. Who has the biggest congressional lobby? Yep, the pharmaceutical industry so it isn't hard to determine who controls the laws and exemptions ultimately. Be aware of the possibility that whatever right you may have to choose now, may change and your rights will be paid for and determined by those with a financial interest. It is happening and the best that we can do is to be aware and continue to write to our elected officials who are supposed to be serving us and looking after our constitutional rights and not giving into the desires of those who finance their campaigns or other endeavors We each must educate ourselves as best we can about our own health choices and we darn sure better work to protect them or the choices will diminish one by one, Kindest Regards, Mavis "The only true gift is a portion of thyself."Ralph Waldo Emerson In a message dated 1/7/2008 3:27:58 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, ishop2kpeoplepc writes: This verifies my contention that you can object based on religious grounds. This has, generally, been the best route to get out of almost anything, including serving in the military during Viet Nam. The only catch, as stated on the web site, it must be a religion. Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year. Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 Hi Bridgette, Here is the information on exemptions in IL. You should not have to join any specific religion to get the exemption and you have plenty of time to educate yourself and to network with other moms. Hope this helps. Mavis "The only true gift is a portion of thyself."Ralph Waldo Emerson In a message dated 1/8/2008 9:09:04 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, mrsnisp@... writes: Do you by chance know which religions don't support vaccines? My Son is 3 and will be starting school soon and I really don't want him to be exposed to the vaccines that are required to start school here in Chicago. Thanks in advance. BridgetteStart the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 Hi Bridgette, Here is the information on exemptions in IL. You should not have to join any specific religion to get the exemption and you have plenty of time to educate yourself and to network with other moms. Hope this helps. Mavis "The only true gift is a portion of thyself."Ralph Waldo Emerson In a message dated 1/8/2008 9:09:04 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, mrsnisp@... writes: Do you by chance know which religions don't support vaccines? My Son is 3 and will be starting school soon and I really don't want him to be exposed to the vaccines that are required to start school here in Chicago. Thanks in advance. BridgetteStart the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 Hi Bridgette, Here is the information on exemptions in IL. You should not have to join any specific religion to get the exemption and you have plenty of time to educate yourself and to network with other moms. Hope this helps. Mavis "The only true gift is a portion of thyself."Ralph Waldo Emerson In a message dated 1/8/2008 9:09:04 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, mrsnisp@... writes: Do you by chance know which religions don't support vaccines? My Son is 3 and will be starting school soon and I really don't want him to be exposed to the vaccines that are required to start school here in Chicago. Thanks in advance. BridgetteStart the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 Hi Bridgette, Here is the information on exemptions in IL. You should not have to join any specific religion to get the exemption and you have plenty of time to educate yourself and to network with other moms. Hope this helps. Mavis "The only true gift is a portion of thyself."Ralph Waldo Emerson In a message dated 1/8/2008 9:09:04 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, mrsnisp@... writes: Do you by chance know which religions don't support vaccines? My Son is 3 and will be starting school soon and I really don't want him to be exposed to the vaccines that are required to start school here in Chicago. Thanks in advance. BridgetteStart the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 LYNDA..THANK YOU FOR THIS MESSAGE..IT IS WELL SAID! Re: [no-forced-vaccinat ion] Re:vaCcines for the elderly? My eyes are surely wide open and have been since I first researched vaccines some 23 years ago when I was pregnant with my first born at home daughter. I think there has been progress in terms of people waking up to the dangers but there are a lot of people who have not been given the opportunity to see or who are so wrapped up in the fear of disease that they can't see. My statement was mostly about the post and the fact that the author is a light in this world of modern medicine where mass marketing and huge profits shadow most every aspect of our lives. I admire those who can so eloquently write of something in such a concise and informative way as to hopefully give others out there a chance to open their eyes to see the truth that is just so evident to me and many many others. What can each of us do to be a light? "The only true gift is a portion of thyself."Ralph Waldo Emerson In a message dated 1/7/2008 6:52:01 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, ishop2kpeoplepc (DOT) com writes: It won't be dark if you open your eyes. There is none so blind than he who will not see. Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year. Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 LYNDA..THANK YOU FOR THIS MESSAGE..IT IS WELL SAID! Re: [no-forced-vaccinat ion] Re:vaCcines for the elderly? My eyes are surely wide open and have been since I first researched vaccines some 23 years ago when I was pregnant with my first born at home daughter. I think there has been progress in terms of people waking up to the dangers but there are a lot of people who have not been given the opportunity to see or who are so wrapped up in the fear of disease that they can't see. My statement was mostly about the post and the fact that the author is a light in this world of modern medicine where mass marketing and huge profits shadow most every aspect of our lives. I admire those who can so eloquently write of something in such a concise and informative way as to hopefully give others out there a chance to open their eyes to see the truth that is just so evident to me and many many others. What can each of us do to be a light? "The only true gift is a portion of thyself."Ralph Waldo Emerson In a message dated 1/7/2008 6:52:01 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, ishop2kpeoplepc (DOT) com writes: It won't be dark if you open your eyes. There is none so blind than he who will not see. Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year. Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 According to the New Jersey Alliance for Informed Choice in Vaccination, NJAICV Your particular religion has no bearing on the religious exemption. The exemption requires that a parent write a letter explaining how vaccination conflicts with their religious beliefs. Regards, Joanne From: no-forced-vaccination [mailto:no-forced-vaccination ] On Behalf Of Bridgette King Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 11:17 PM no-forced-vaccination Subject: Re: vaccines for the elderly? Do you by chance know which religions don't support vaccines? My Son is 3 and will be starting school soon and I really don't want him to be exposed to the vaccines that are required to start school here in Chicago. Thanks in advance. Bridgette Lynda Hardin-Poston <ishop2k@...> wrote: The problem with that is that people tend to cower when faced with the possibility of a legal battle. The cost would be prohibitive and the powers that be know that. They use intimidation tactics to try to get you to capitulate. The easiest way is to belong to a religion that clearly denounces immunizations, then they haven't a leg to stand on and you don't have to go thorough a protracted battle with them. Why make it harder than it has to be? I'm all for fighting the necessary battles, but I pick my battles. If I can do something that will get the same result without a battle, then I do it. I don't fight for the sake of fighting, that is counter productive. Dr. Lynda Hardin-Poston 5109 Stotzer Pwy. College Station, TX 77845 (979)260-1202 Http://www.doctorlynda.com Health, God's Way ----- Original Message ----- From: lordeeme@... no-forced-vaccination Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 3:22 PM Subject: Re: vaccines for the elderly? Yes, they are trying to make it more difficult and every state has their own laws and ways of asking for the religious information In MA it simply says to state it writing that vaccinations conflicts with your sincerely held religious beliefs. In all my applications for my children previously that was adequate and the exemption granted. Though, I recently went though an incident with my college aged daughter who is unvaccinated when the health director at her college demanded that she elaborate on her statement. After much deliberation and contacts with advocates and lawyers we decided to just do that rather than start a big legal battle over it. Her exemption was granted. Bottom line however, is that we should each have the right to choose whether it is religious or philosophical and any state laws can be changed and amended if enough people speak up and do something. Mavis " The only true gift is a portion of thyself. " Ralph Waldo Emerson In a message dated 1/7/2008 4:04:28 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, ishop2k@... writes: Go to the link that was provided, it specifically states: " A written statement should be submitted by the student, or the student's parent or guardian if the student is a minor, explaining how the administration of the vaccine conflicts with the bona fide religious tenets or practices of the student, or the parent or guardian, as appropriate; except that a general philosophical or moral objection to the vaccination shall not be sufficient for an exemption on religious grounds. " I cut and pasted that directly from the web site that was sent to us. If you would have read it, you would have seen that they MUST be " bona fide religious tenants. " It is obvious they know about this attempt to circumvent the law, so they have made provisions for it. Dr. Lynda Hardin-Poston 5109 Stotzer Pwy. College Station, TX 77845 (979)260-1202 Http://www.doctorlynda.com Health, God's Way Re: vaccines for the elderly? It actually does not have to be a specific religion! What is has to be is sincerely held religious belief. You can hold a belief whether or not you go to any specific church or belong to any organized group. It is against our first amendment rights to have to justify a religious belief. As a Christian, it is not difficult to hold such convictions. One example would be that many vaccines are made using aborted fetal cells. If you believe the commandment, " Thou shall not kill " then you are certainly within your rights to decline vaccines for religious reasons. Another sincerely held religious belief might be that you place your ultimate faith in God to protect you rather than a pharmaceutical company and to do otherwise would be unfaithful of you, There is a big buzz right now about the numbers of parents applying for religious exemptions in order to avoid vaccinations. They do not want us to decline them because they make less money. Who has the biggest congressional lobby? Yep, the pharmaceutical industry so it isn't hard to determine who controls the laws and exemptions ultimately. Be aware of the possibility that whatever right you may have to choose now, may change and your rights will be paid for and determined by those with a financial interest. It is happening and the best that we can do is to be aware and continue to write to our elected officials who are supposed to be serving us and looking after our constitutional rights and not giving into the desires of those who finance their campaigns or other endeavors We each must educate ourselves as best we can about our own health choices and we darn sure better work to protect them or the choices will diminish one by one, Kindest Regards, Mavis " The only true gift is a portion of thyself. " Ralph Waldo Emerson In a message dated 1/7/2008 3:27:58 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, ishop2k@... writes: This verifies my contention that you can object based on religious grounds. This has, generally, been the best route to get out of almost anything, including serving in the military during Viet Nam. The only catch, as stated on the web site, it must be a religion. Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year. Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 According to the New Jersey Alliance for Informed Choice in Vaccination, NJAICV Your particular religion has no bearing on the religious exemption. The exemption requires that a parent write a letter explaining how vaccination conflicts with their religious beliefs. Regards, Joanne From: no-forced-vaccination [mailto:no-forced-vaccination ] On Behalf Of Bridgette King Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 11:17 PM no-forced-vaccination Subject: Re: vaccines for the elderly? Do you by chance know which religions don't support vaccines? My Son is 3 and will be starting school soon and I really don't want him to be exposed to the vaccines that are required to start school here in Chicago. Thanks in advance. Bridgette Lynda Hardin-Poston <ishop2k@...> wrote: The problem with that is that people tend to cower when faced with the possibility of a legal battle. The cost would be prohibitive and the powers that be know that. They use intimidation tactics to try to get you to capitulate. The easiest way is to belong to a religion that clearly denounces immunizations, then they haven't a leg to stand on and you don't have to go thorough a protracted battle with them. Why make it harder than it has to be? I'm all for fighting the necessary battles, but I pick my battles. If I can do something that will get the same result without a battle, then I do it. I don't fight for the sake of fighting, that is counter productive. Dr. Lynda Hardin-Poston 5109 Stotzer Pwy. College Station, TX 77845 (979)260-1202 Http://www.doctorlynda.com Health, God's Way ----- Original Message ----- From: lordeeme@... no-forced-vaccination Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 3:22 PM Subject: Re: vaccines for the elderly? Yes, they are trying to make it more difficult and every state has their own laws and ways of asking for the religious information In MA it simply says to state it writing that vaccinations conflicts with your sincerely held religious beliefs. In all my applications for my children previously that was adequate and the exemption granted. Though, I recently went though an incident with my college aged daughter who is unvaccinated when the health director at her college demanded that she elaborate on her statement. After much deliberation and contacts with advocates and lawyers we decided to just do that rather than start a big legal battle over it. Her exemption was granted. Bottom line however, is that we should each have the right to choose whether it is religious or philosophical and any state laws can be changed and amended if enough people speak up and do something. Mavis " The only true gift is a portion of thyself. " Ralph Waldo Emerson In a message dated 1/7/2008 4:04:28 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, ishop2k@... writes: Go to the link that was provided, it specifically states: " A written statement should be submitted by the student, or the student's parent or guardian if the student is a minor, explaining how the administration of the vaccine conflicts with the bona fide religious tenets or practices of the student, or the parent or guardian, as appropriate; except that a general philosophical or moral objection to the vaccination shall not be sufficient for an exemption on religious grounds. " I cut and pasted that directly from the web site that was sent to us. If you would have read it, you would have seen that they MUST be " bona fide religious tenants. " It is obvious they know about this attempt to circumvent the law, so they have made provisions for it. Dr. Lynda Hardin-Poston 5109 Stotzer Pwy. College Station, TX 77845 (979)260-1202 Http://www.doctorlynda.com Health, God's Way Re: vaccines for the elderly? It actually does not have to be a specific religion! What is has to be is sincerely held religious belief. You can hold a belief whether or not you go to any specific church or belong to any organized group. It is against our first amendment rights to have to justify a religious belief. As a Christian, it is not difficult to hold such convictions. One example would be that many vaccines are made using aborted fetal cells. If you believe the commandment, " Thou shall not kill " then you are certainly within your rights to decline vaccines for religious reasons. Another sincerely held religious belief might be that you place your ultimate faith in God to protect you rather than a pharmaceutical company and to do otherwise would be unfaithful of you, There is a big buzz right now about the numbers of parents applying for religious exemptions in order to avoid vaccinations. They do not want us to decline them because they make less money. Who has the biggest congressional lobby? Yep, the pharmaceutical industry so it isn't hard to determine who controls the laws and exemptions ultimately. Be aware of the possibility that whatever right you may have to choose now, may change and your rights will be paid for and determined by those with a financial interest. It is happening and the best that we can do is to be aware and continue to write to our elected officials who are supposed to be serving us and looking after our constitutional rights and not giving into the desires of those who finance their campaigns or other endeavors We each must educate ourselves as best we can about our own health choices and we darn sure better work to protect them or the choices will diminish one by one, Kindest Regards, Mavis " The only true gift is a portion of thyself. " Ralph Waldo Emerson In a message dated 1/7/2008 3:27:58 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, ishop2k@... writes: This verifies my contention that you can object based on religious grounds. This has, generally, been the best route to get out of almost anything, including serving in the military during Viet Nam. The only catch, as stated on the web site, it must be a religion. Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year. Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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