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I'd like to know if meds help me or not. The stuff I've been reading is bull

and my life means a lot to me, I don't want to make the wrong choice. please

make sense! I don't want to read about weird stuff. I'd like to think that

alternative medicine is about natural herbs and stuff. anyone feel like I do?

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" I'd like to know if meds help me or not. " Well you'd never know if meds helped

'you' or not, unless you take the meds. However I don't know one person who

ever

got anything from the meds but bad health. " The stuff I've been reading is

bull "

I hope that you mean all the corporate AIDS crap, and not the information on

this

list. If so, what bull are you referring to? Do we get a chance to defend

ourselves?

Perhaps you're too scared right now to open your mind. I hope that it doesn't

end

up killing you.

" and my life means a lot to me, I don't want to make the wrong choice. "

Sir, do you think that our lives mean nothing to us? We're not just preaching,

we're living what we preach. Do you think that we're all suicidal? I don't see

anyone here on this list dying of AIDS. It's very very presumptous and " holier

than thou " to think that we didn't think very carefully about our decisions.

" please make sense! I don't want to read about weird stuff. "

Make sense? I would think that everyone on this list has been clear as

crystal.

I'm not confused. If you're confused, ask specific questions. What weird stuff

are you talking about? Are you saying that it's weird that we don't believe

that

HIV is the cause of AIDS and that it may not exist? If you know of one document

that scientifically proves that HIV causes AIDS, then please show us. There are

thousands of top scientists who would love to see it.

How do you feel? Feel a little sick? Take vitamins and get rest. Stop

thinking

about " HIV " I think that if you just live life as you did before, but a bit

healthier,

you'll find that AIDS is just a state of mind.

" I'd like to think that alternative medicine is about natural herbs and stuff.

anyone feel like I do? "

Alternative medicines are herbs and enemas and rebounding and all of that. But

you have to have an actual disease to really need them. Otherwise, just live

healthy.

How do you feel? Perhaps you're suffering from stress from thinking you have

something

you don't.

Please ask questions.

Caer

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The WHO report you have provided a link to, seems to left out Europe, North

America, South America, Canada, Africa, India, South East Asia and most of

Asia including Russia!

It doesn't seem to be very representative then.............would you please

check out the sources first.

A concerned member of this list,

> Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 15:34:01 -0600

> From: " caerfree@... " <caerfree@...>

> Subject: npr

>

> Dear National Public Radio, I am absolutely appalled at the HIV/AIDS story you

> presented

> today. It was full of misinformation and I really wish that NPR could have

> more

> equal representation of both sides of the AIDS issue. If NPR is not aware of

> the

> other side of the AIDS issue, I think they would do well to visit

> [http://www.aliveandwell.org]www.aliveandwell.org

> and get educated. Lets forget the fact that HIV has never been proven to cause

> AIDS

> (and I dare you to find the Scientific Journal that holds that proof), but

> thousands

> of scientist have been crying out for a re-evaluation of HIV as the cause of

> AIDS,

> only to be denied and ignored. HIV has never been properly isolated. It has

> never

> been proven to be sexually transmitted. The disclaimer on the supposed " HIV "

> test,

> even says that the test has not been approved by the FDA as a test for HIV.

> Yet

> thousands of Gay men are given DNA chain terminating drugs and being told that

> it

> is their only hope for survival. I wonder what they're really dying of. I

> fail

> to see the need to define this as an epidemic when no population in the world

> seems

> to be even marginally affected by it. Not only that, but I wonder how your

> reporter

> can claim 4.8 million new confirmed cases of HIV, when the WHO's report as of

> 2002

> only shows two hundred and two thousand cumulative cases WORLDWIDE since the

> beginning

> of AIDS, 20+ years ago. That seems like a terribly large gap, and he said

> " confirmed "

> AIDS cases. He did not say " estimated. "

> [http://www.wpro.who.int/pdf/std/Survrep%2017-03.pdf]http://www.wpro.who.int/p

> df/std/Survrep%2017-03.pdf

> More people a year in the US die of bad reactions to properly prescribed

> drugs,

> than of AIDS. Perhaps, we should be sinking billions of dollars a year into

> that

> problem instead. On the day that NPR broadcasts a fair report about the

> dissident

> side of AIDS, without feeling the need to bombard people with the corporate

> AIDS

> message afterwards, my faith in NPR will be much improved.

> [http://www.aliveandwell.org]www.aliveandwell.org

> [http://www.virusmyth.org]www.virusmyth.org

> [http://www.aidsrc.org]www.aidsrc.org

> [http://www.duesberg.com]www.duesberg.com

>

>

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Thanks for your reply. I am learning more and I have been reading about

alternative medicine.

I guess when I first found out about my diagnosis of HIV i was pretty shocked

to say the least.

I resent Caer telling me that I " opened my legs " that's not how I got the

virus. It sounds to me that she or he is a very angry person. I wish this person

well anyway. Thanks for the advise and all the web sites.

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<<Thanks for your reply. I am learning more and I have been reading about

alternative

medicine.I guess when I first found out about my diagnosis of HIV i was pretty

shocked

to say the least.I resent Caer telling me that I " opened my legs " that's not how

I got the

virus. It sounds to me that she or he is a very angry person. I wish this person

well anyway. Thanks for the advise and all the web sites.>> Well resent away.

I apologize if I made the mistake of thinking that you " believed " you got the

" virus "

through sex. However " I hate the man that did this to me and I hope he dies "

seems

pretty much to point that way. Otherwise, how could you " contract " the " virus "

in some way that made you hate him, as well as everyone on this list??? Sounds

like you're the angry one. I'm just trying to call a spade a spade as much as

possible.

And notice, I said " unless you were raped " . Plus, you still seem to think you

have

a virus of some sort. You haven't given us any details to help you. When you

come

on this list and tell us that we're all full of bull, and talking crazy, and

that

you HATE all of us and the horse we rode in on, and the man who some how gave

you

this mythical " virus " without having sex with you... what are we supposed to do?

Bend over and take it? I really wish that you'd actually communicate from now

on

instead of striking out. It seems you've calmed down and are actually doing

some

research. It's not to say that I wasn't afraid when I got my mis " diagnosis "

but

hatred will get you all kinds of nowhere. So no... I'm not an angry person.

For

one thing, I don't really hate anyone. And I also take responsibility for my

own

actions... Hopefully, you can do the same. Caer

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<<The WHO report you have provided a link to, seems to left out Europe, North

America, South America, Canada, Africa, India, South East Asia and most of

Asia including Russia!

It doesn't seem to be very representative then.............would you please

check out the sources first.>>

You're right. I was confused by the numbers, since it was in fact roughly

600,000

worldwide and not 200,000. However, the WHO makes it almost impossible to

access

these reports when they are complete.

I apologize for the mistake. However, 600,000 doesn't make much of a

difference

in the gap when the media are reporting 4.8 million confirmed new cases.

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Well, that seems to be a different story.Didn't ment to be harsh on you

though, so no need for apologize ;o)

I know they make it difficult to get a complete picture of the " situation " ,

and even change the numbers when it suits them.

> You're right. I was confused by the numbers, since it was in fact roughly

> 600,000

> worldwide and not 200,000. However, the WHO makes it almost impossible to

> access

> these reports when they are complete.

>

> I apologize for the mistake. However, 600,000 doesn't make much of a

> difference

> in the gap when the media are reporting 4.8 million confirmed new cases.

>

>

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Yes. Yes! A thousand times Yes! Yes. Yes. Yes. Oui!

At 07:52 AM 6/23/2005 -0700, you wrote:

>Hi,

>

>I had an idea. I listen to National Public Radio on a regular

>basis. They seem to take an interest at non-mainstream stories from

>around the world. They also investigate the story thoroughly and report

>it objectively. NPR also appeals to an audience that is quite open-minded

>and educated. This may be the foothold we need to get our name

>circulating in the media. Therefore, I submitted the following story idea

>to NPR. (I used Greg's letter as a pattern, but had to shorten it

>down). Since I put your names down as contacts, I thought I had better

>let you know in case they decide to call you.

>

>A student in immunics,

>

>Becky

>

>Have you ever dreamed of a world without disease? Immunics is made up of

>a group of people who have the ability to cure diseases. In year one of

>the Cure Drive its members reported over 12,000 cures.

>This is an effective charity because people don't need to pay for it; it's

>accessible wherever they are by computer and can be made more accessible

>through radio and TV. It's completely harmonious with medical treatments

>and all other approaches: people can remove allergies, including allergies

>to medications, so they can take their medicine.

>The theme is self-immunization, and there are no substances involved.

>We want everyone to experience, evaluate, and help. We need to get the

>word out that being cured of disease is our right.

>If you are interested in our story, please contact one of my teachers:

> Morkovin

>813 672-0134

>Executive Director

><http://www.TheCureDrive.org>www.TheCureDrive.org

><mailto:greg@...>greg@...

>Frannie Hora

>813 672-0134

><mailto:fran@...>fran@...

>Bayard

>813 672-3419

><mailto:bayard@...>bayard@...

>

>__________________________________________________

>

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Reports, August 20 2008 that according to test done on lung

tissue save from the big flu epidemic of 1918, it was

not the flu, but bacteria that killed so many.

Great timing this new information, huh?

I'd put it all here for you if I could,

www.npr.com I guess will get you there.

Peace-Love-Oneness,

Dona

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Reports, August 20 2008 that according to test done on lung

tissue save from the big flu epidemic of 1918, it was

not the flu, but bacteria that killed so many.

Great timing this new information, huh?

I'd put it all here for you if I could,

www.npr.com I guess will get you there.

Peace-Love-Oneness,

Dona

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It says here:

The new research suggests that with the availability of effective treatments

for bacterial infections, a modern-day flu pandemic might not be so deadly.

However, by force-feeding the whole world with genetically modified foods,

containing antibiotic-resistant marker genes causing multi-drug resistant

diseases, they make damn sure that treatments remain ineffective.

Ingrid

Reports, August 20 2008 that according to test done on lung

tissue save from the big flu epidemic of 1918, it was

not the flu, but bacteria that killed so many.

Great timing this new information, huh?

I'd put it all here for you if I could,

www.npr.com I guess will get you there.

Peace-Love-Oneness,

Dona

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It says here:

The new research suggests that with the availability of effective treatments

for bacterial infections, a modern-day flu pandemic might not be so deadly.

However, by force-feeding the whole world with genetically modified foods,

containing antibiotic-resistant marker genes causing multi-drug resistant

diseases, they make damn sure that treatments remain ineffective.

Ingrid

Reports, August 20 2008 that according to test done on lung

tissue save from the big flu epidemic of 1918, it was

not the flu, but bacteria that killed so many.

Great timing this new information, huh?

I'd put it all here for you if I could,

www.npr.com I guess will get you there.

Peace-Love-Oneness,

Dona

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