Re: why am I sick!

[Guest guest]

At 12:01 AM 5/20/2002 +0000, you wrote:

>a few weeks ago I got the Flu. ( probably off half the people here at

>work who got the " flu vax " Now the weekend just gone i am ill again.

>( not sure if its a cold but he head feels stuffy since the afternoon

>of saturday. I woke up sunday with a right croaky voice and today is

>still the same and my lips are dry as. ( No runny nose though )

>

>Maybe I am doing something horribly wrong following NT ?

>I am upset to be sick 2x this month

Everyone where I work has been sick except me, and I have a weakened immune

system because I am recovering from mononucleosis. There seems to be a

springtime flu going around. I don't think anything in NT can make you

sick except for raw meat if it doesn't come from a safe source. Here in the

west there was a recall of cantaloupe because it was contaminated

salmonella. Which goes to show you can get it from more than meat and poultry.

>

[Guest guest]

Yeah,

Maybe the avg food I eat ona day is doing me more harm that good ?

but i Mean to get sick 2 times in the same month

catchign the flu once I can deal with. But like not 2 weeks later

than catch waht I think is a cold

> >a few weeks ago I got the Flu. ( probably off half the people here

at

> >work who got the " flu vax " Now the weekend just gone i am ill

again.

> >( not sure if its a cold but he head feels stuffy since the

afternoon

> >of saturday. I woke up sunday with a right croaky voice and today

is

> >still the same and my lips are dry as. ( No runny nose though )

> >

> >Maybe I am doing something horribly wrong following NT ?

> >I am upset to be sick 2x this month

> Everyone where I work has been sick except me, and I have a

weakened immune

> system because I am recovering from mononucleosis. There seems to

be a

> springtime flu going around. I don't think anything in NT can make

you

> sick except for raw meat if it doesn't come from a safe source.

Here in the

> west there was a recall of cantaloupe because it was contaminated

> salmonella. Which goes to show you can get it from more than meat

and poultry.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> >

[Guest guest]

At 03:26 AM 5/20/2002 +0000, you wrote:

>Yeah,

>Maybe the avg food I eat ona day is doing me more harm that good ?

>but i Mean to get sick 2 times in the same month

>catchign the flu once I can deal with. But like not 2 weeks later

>than catch waht I think is a cold

Or sinusitis? There was one bug that was going around here and we ALL got

secondary infections from it. We didn't this year: and we have made a lot

of changes (no wheat, Coconut oil -- we've been on grass-fed beef forever).

The coconut oil seems to help with 2ndary infections, but they can be

nasty, and the LOOK just like a cold, except I get much sicker from

sinusitis than I ever do from a cold. Usually it shows up with a cough, not

much sinus problem that I can feel (though the ENT doc can see it).

Anyway, 2 weeks is about the norm for the 2nd stuff to pop up. And it's

allergy season ...

Heidi Schuppenhauer

Trillium Custom Software Inc.

heidis@...

[Guest guest]

>> a few weeks ago I got the Flu. ( probably off half the people

>> here at work who got the " flu vax " )

I didn't understand if you meant that you got the flu vaccination, or your

co-workers (or both, you and your co-workers).

In any case, I think that the flu shot does more harm than good. I've read a

case where an " old folks home " had to be quarantined off because the flu was

rampant. Ninety five percent of the residents had the flu shot.

Here's a snippet from Mercola.com:

It is our collective experience that the flu shot does NOT prevent illness

in most people, but actually does the opposite. It weakens the immune system

and makes the person actually more predisposed to the illness. I am fond of

providing the following answer to people who ask me if they should get a flu

shot. I tell them " Only if they want to get the flu " .

-Dan

[Guest guest]

At 12:01 AM 5/20/2002 +0000, you wrote:

>a few weeks ago I got the Flu. ( probably off half the people here at

>work who got the " flu vax " Now the weekend just gone i am ill again.

>( not sure if its a cold but he head feels stuffy since the afternoon

>of saturday. I woke up sunday with a right croaky voice and today is

>still the same and my lips are dry as. ( No runny nose though )

>

>Maybe I am doing something horribly wrong following NT ?

>I am upset to be sick 2x this month

It has been my experience (and I've heard the same from many other people)

that flu and other so-called " diseases " are Nature's way of cleansing the

body of toxins. On this and certain other diets old tissues toxins are

mobilized, stirred up and are excreted. The person eating a raw diet,

especially, will find this to be true and will often experience

detoxification which seems to be the flu, bronchitis, skin rash, sinusitis,

fever, etc., etc.

Personally, I welcome these times because I know that I'm cleaning out old

toxins that have been in my tissues from years of eating the Standard

American Diet (SAD). As time has passed these detoxifications have become

less and less and have interfered less with my normal routine. Still - I

expect some times ahead that will require bed rest.

For stuffy head and croaky voice and sinus drip I use raw, unheated honey -

about 2 TBs every 3-4 hours. This both helps to dry up secretions and

loosen the lungs permitting me to cough up congestion. I got through

pneumonia a year ago this way with no antibiotics or OTC drugs.

Regards,

-=mark=-

[Guest guest]

Yes i did get a sinus infection when I had the FLU a few weeks back.

So maybe this is a mild version of what i had before resurfacing ?

when i got the frist sinus infection while i was FLuey damn it hurt

my head. Headache it gave me was terrible.

I get much sicker from

> sinusitis than I ever do from a cold. Usually it shows up with a

cough, not

> much sinus problem that I can feel (though the ENT doc can see it).

>

> Anyway, 2 weeks is about the norm for the 2nd stuff to pop up. And

it's

> allergy season ...

>

>

>

>

> Heidi Schuppenhauer

> Trillium Custom Software Inc.

> heidis@t...

[Guest guest]

Yes I didnt get the Flu shot. ( against that sort of thing )

I am thinking maybe my defences are down as possibly I am doing

something wrong with my NT diet.

> >> a few weeks ago I got the Flu. ( probably off half the people

> >> here at work who got the " flu vax " )

>

> I didn't understand if you meant that you got the flu vaccination,

or your

> co-workers (or both, you and your co-workers).

>

> In any case, I think that the flu shot does more harm than good.

I've read a

> case where an " old folks home " had to be quarantined off because

the flu was

> rampant. Ninety five percent of the residents had the flu shot.

>

> Here's a snippet from Mercola.com:

> It is our collective experience that the flu shot does NOT prevent

illness

> in most people, but actually does the opposite. It weakens the

immune system

> and makes the person actually more predisposed to the illness. I am

fond of

> providing the following answer to people who ask me if they should

get a flu

> shot. I tell them " Only if they want to get the flu " .

>

> -Dan

[Guest guest]

Yeah I am up in teh air with this theory of detox.

i mean most foods i eat atm are food bougth butter. and meets and

the occasional organic vegatable. I eat alot of fats from teh shop on

teh meet ( like lamb chops )

> >a few weeks ago I got the Flu. ( probably off half the people here

at

> >work who got the " flu vax " Now the weekend just gone i am ill

again.

> >( not sure if its a cold but he head feels stuffy since the

afternoon

> >of saturday. I woke up sunday with a right croaky voice and today

is

> >still the same and my lips are dry as. ( No runny nose though )

> >

> >Maybe I am doing something horribly wrong following NT ?

> >I am upset to be sick 2x this month

>

> It has been my experience (and I've heard the same from many other

people)

> that flu and other so-called " diseases " are Nature's way of

cleansing the

> body of toxins. On this and certain other diets old tissues toxins

are

> mobilized, stirred up and are excreted. The person eating a raw

diet,

> especially, will find this to be true and will often experience

> detoxification which seems to be the flu, bronchitis, skin rash,

sinusitis,

> fever, etc., etc.

>

> Personally, I welcome these times because I know that I'm cleaning

out old

> toxins that have been in my tissues from years of eating the

Standard

> American Diet (SAD). As time has passed these detoxifications have

become

> less and less and have interfered less with my normal routine.

Still - I

> expect some times ahead that will require bed rest.

>

> For stuffy head and croaky voice and sinus drip I use raw, unheated

honey -

> about 2 TBs every 3-4 hours. This both helps to dry up secretions

and

> loosen the lungs permitting me to cough up congestion. I got

through

> pneumonia a year ago this way with no antibiotics or OTC drugs.

>

> Regards,

>

> -=mark=-

[Guest guest]

At 12:31 AM 5/21/2002 +0000, you wrote:

>Yes i did get a sinus infection when I had the FLU a few weeks back.

>So maybe this is a mild version of what i had before resurfacing ?

>when i got the frist sinus infection while i was FLuey damn it hurt

>my head. Headache it gave me was terrible.

Sinusitis goes " chronic " and it robs your energy. You can have it for YEARS

and not even know it (I did! Man, it was news to me what snot is SUPPOSED

to look like). If the doctor who treats it doesn't know what they are doing

(and most don't) it never really gets knocked out. I took my son in because

he's been getting them and got a huge lecture on the subject from the

allergist, who IS good at infections (the pharmacist recommended him). The

coconut oil seems to have helped my son though, and me, but I'm also on

constant Guifenesin. There is a likelhood that we have at least CF gene(s)

too (we're getting tested) which complicates matters for us.

Heidi Schuppenhauer

Trillium Custom Software Inc.

heidis@...

[Guest guest]

Dear Yogabud,

I'm sorry you're having so much trouble with NT...if you haven't already, go see

a good health practicioner (very hard to find, I know). Remember that there is

a lot of variation among the groups that Price studied and even those of us on

this list...it will take some experimentation before you find what feels good.

Good luck,

[Guest guest]

,

It seems like you've been feeling pretty poorly for quite awhile

now. Maybe you should keep a *detailed* food and supplement journal

for a couple of weeks and then post it. That way, if you're missing

something significant in your diet, maybe one of us can help spot it.

Also, I remember you sayin that you work out a lot. In that case, it

would probably be important to outline what your workouts are, how

long they last and how often you do them. That way we can account

for any additional nutritional needs as a result of your activity

level. If you have a physical job, include a description of that too.

I'm not a professional, but I think I could crunch some numbers on

your nutritional status based on that information.

What do you think?

[Guest guest]

It could be also my preperation of the food.

I still have a sore through but my energy has been more than fine all

week. Wierd. I can concentrate fine also. Just soem coughing here and

ther ect. eh

I think it could also be the store bougtht food

I am desperatly trying to negotiate with a guy here in.au to get some

raw butter from healthy grass fed cows sent up.

> Dear Yogabud,

>

> I'm sorry you're having so much trouble with NT...if you haven't

already, go see a good health practicioner (very hard to find, I

know). Remember that there is a lot of variation among the groups

that Price studied and even those of us on this list...it will take

some experimentation before you find what feels good.

>

> Good luck,

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hey ,

ok here is my usual detailed daily food intake.

breakfast is usually 6 raw eggs with some butter.

Lunch is usually 4 lamb chops, more butter and some cheese

Dinner is either beef steak, stir fry lamb, chops or pork.

with dinner I have some vegetables like pumpkin, squash, mushroom,

eggplant, broccoli. Usually butter on the vegies.

( i havent worked out for last 8 weeks due to a injury )

but when i work out its usually 1 hour of kung fu most days

then every second day usually hour and a half of ashtanga yoga.

Thank you very much for offering some input

> ,

>

> It seems like you've been feeling pretty poorly for quite awhile

> now. Maybe you should keep a *detailed* food and supplement

journal

> for a couple of weeks and then post it. That way, if you're

missing

> something significant in your diet, maybe one of us can help spot

it.

>

> Also, I remember you sayin that you work out a lot. In that case,

it

> would probably be important to outline what your workouts are, how

> long they last and how often you do them. That way we can account

> for any additional nutritional needs as a result of your activity

> level. If you have a physical job, include a description of that

too.

>

> I'm not a professional, but I think I could crunch some numbers on

> your nutritional status based on that information.

>

> What do you think?

>

>

[Guest guest]

At 09:52 AM 5/22/2002 +0000, you wrote:

>Hey ,

>ok here is my usual detailed daily food intake.

>

>breakfast is usually 6 raw eggs with some butter.

>

>Lunch is usually 4 lamb chops, more butter and some cheese

>

>Dinner is either beef steak, stir fry lamb, chops or pork.

>with dinner I have some vegetables like pumpkin, squash, mushroom,

>eggplant, broccoli. Usually butter on the vegies.

>

>( i havent worked out for last 8 weeks due to a injury )

>but when i work out its usually 1 hour of kung fu most days

>then every second day usually hour and a half of ashtanga yoga.

>

>Thank you very much for offering some input

>

>

Where's the carbs? This looks like the Atkin's Diet. Which may be OK but

if you are working out you may need more carbs. You can use fat for energy

instead of carbs but sometimes it takes a while for your body to adapt.

[Guest guest]

At 06:54 AM 5/22/2002 -0700, you wrote:

> >ok here is my usual detailed daily food intake.

> >

> >breakfast is usually 6 raw eggs with some butter.

> >

> >Lunch is usually 4 lamb chops, more butter and some cheese

> >

> >Dinner is either beef steak, stir fry lamb, chops or pork.

> >with dinner I have some vegetables like pumpkin, squash, mushroom,

> >eggplant, broccoli. Usually butter on the vegies.

A thought about vegetables. There are lots of protein in the menu

above. This may make the body fairly acidic. This contributes to disease

and degradation in the body. It is generally thought desirable to be more

toward alkaline. This can be accomplished by juicing green vegetables and

having about 6-8 ounces of the juice 1 hour or so before your meals. I use

celery (70%), parsley (15%), zucchini (15%). This has made a huge

difference in overall health for me. Also one should consider eating

vegetables separately from proteins just in case the body is not able to

combine them easily. The fats with the foods are very helpful - just be

sure the butter is unsalted and, if possible, unpasteurized (same with the

cheese). One can get enough minerals (sodium, etc.) from the vegetable

juice and should avoid damaging salt. All foods should be from good

sources that are free of antibiotics and that were fed well with a natural

diet (beef eats grass naturally, not grains, for example). Eggplant is

from the Nightshade family and contains some alkaloid toxins (check other

foods in the Nightshade family too).

Stir fry - interesting - the oil used is important here. Try a really good

olive oil such as Bariani from San Francisco or pristine coconut oil, etc.

If there is ever any belching or gas or bloating then indigestion is

present. Indigestion leads to disease. Try eating raw, uncooked foods to

see if the indigestion goes away (Steak Tar-tar anyone?).

-=mark=-

[Guest guest]

Mark-

>There are lots of protein in the menu

>above. This may make the body fairly acidic. This contributes to disease

>and degradation in the body.

I think Stefansson might have disagreed.

-

[Guest guest]

>A thought about vegetables. There are lots of protein in the menu

>above. This may make the body fairly acidic. This contributes to disease

>and degradation in the body. It is generally thought desirable to be more

>toward alkaline. This can be accomplished by juicing green vegetables and

>having about 6-8 ounces of the juice 1 hour or so before your meals.

I've been suspecting that this is just another vegetarian canard that won't

die. Does anyone know for sure or have any references on this?

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[Guest guest]

> I've been suspecting that this is just another vegetarian canard

> that won't

> die. Does anyone know for sure or have any references on this?

There aren't any from what I can tell. I think you pretty much hit

the nail on the head. We've been discussing this on another list

recently. There is an issue with blood pH...it needs to be kept in a

fairly tightly defined range. Food *does* impact it, but the body

doesn't just passively receive the pH from the food; it actively

regulates it via respiration and kidney action. So if a food is

affecting pH and the body isn't properly recovering, it's probably

more related to the proper functioning of one of those

elimination/neutralization pathways.

[Guest guest]

,

> breakfast is usually 6 raw eggs with some butter.

> Lunch is usually 4 lamb chops, more butter and some cheese

> Dinner is either beef steak, stir fry lamb, chops or pork.

> with dinner I have some vegetables like pumpkin, squash, mushroom,

> eggplant, broccoli. Usually butter on the vegies.

Well, I don't really have specific amounts to go off of, but this is

what I've assumed based on what you wrote:

Breakfast:

6 *large* eggs

2 Tablespoons (28g) butter

Lunch:

20 oz (566g) of australian lamb

2 Tablespoons (28g) butter

1 ounce (28g) cheddar

Dinner:

12-15 oz (340-425g) australian lamb, beef, or pork

1 cup (cooked?) vegetable

2 Tablespoons (28g) butter

Let me know if you think I'm very far off on any of these guesses.

First of all, I definitely think that your carbs are too low. Your

going to be in full ketosis considering how active you are. I don't

think that ketosis is a dirty word or terribly dangerous, but I don't

think it's an optimal place to be for a very long time either. I'd

recommend consuming at least a little more carbs, preferably in the

form of moderately starchy vegetables, soaked grains, soaked beans,

or some good fruits. Carrots, potatoes, yam, sweet potatoes, squash,

pumpkin, soaked oatmeal, soaked beans, mango, papaya, melons.

Secondly, you do appear to be deficient in a few things. You need a

lot more vitamin E than you're currently getting. You're only

consuming about 50% of the vitamin E a normal person needs. You

probably need a bit more than normal. You have a very high fat

intake and you're very active (with 32% higher than average caloric

intake). Both of those factors combine to create a larger need for

vitamin E. You also appear to be deficient in calcium, magnesium and

folate. In addition, you appear to be marginal to possibly deficient

in thiamin and vitamin c.

Since the diet you outlined isn't very diverse, you're also running a

risk of fairly serious trace element deficiencies, in my opinion.

Also, with a fairly high protein intake, low folate is fairly

dangerous because it's necessary to process certain amino acids.

So you need more:

Vitamin E (2x-4x)

Calcium (2x-3x)

Magnesium (1.5x-2x)

Folate (2x-3x)

Vitamin C (1.5x-3x)

Thiamin (1.5x-3x)

Vitamin E sources: seeds, nuts, broccoli, asparagus, papaya, mango,

tomato, pumpkin, blueberries

Calcium sources: more dairy, greens, sardines, soaked beans, soaked

rye, soaked oats

Magnesium sources: greens, grains, fish, nuts, seeds, beans (and

chocolate!!)

Folate sources: LIVER!, greens, oranges, beans (especially lentils)

Vitamin C: fruits, vegetables, liver

Thiamin: pork, poultry, whole grains (esp oats), peas, beans

There are two things about your diet and this list that jump out at

me. One is that including many some carefully selected carb foods

from the above lists would go a long way toward rounding out your

nutrition. The other is that you should probably vary your protein

sources a bit more. Since you're consuming SO MANY eggs and so much

red meat, it wouldn't be a bad idea to replace some of that with

other meats and fish. That too will round out some of the nutrients.

You could cut two eggs out of your morning meal and replace it with a

bowl of soaked oatmeal with blueberries or mango or papaya.

Have only one of your meals each day be red meat. Have the other be

either fish, poultry or pork. Have appx 4 ounce servings of liver

once or twice a week.

Add some greens and some kind of seed or nut (preferably soaked)!

I hope this helps!

[Guest guest]

> > I've been suspecting that this is just another vegetarian canard

> > that won't

> > die. Does anyone know for sure or have any references on this?

>

> There aren't any from what I can tell. I think you pretty much hit

> the nail on the head. We've been discussing this on another list

> recently. There is an issue with blood pH...it needs to be kept in

a

> fairly tightly defined range. Food *does* impact it, but the body

> doesn't just passively receive the pH from the food; it actively

> regulates it via respiration and kidney action. So if a food is

> affecting pH and the body isn't properly recovering, it's probably

> more related to the proper functioning of one of those

> elimination/neutralization pathways.

>

>

This may be an old vegetarian myth, but doesn't the body deal with

blood that is too acidic by neutralizing with calcium?

[Guest guest]

> This may be an old vegetarian myth, but doesn't the body deal with

> blood that is too acidic by neutralizing with calcium?

I'm not positive, but I think that is indeed part of the body's

buffering system...along with other alkaline minerals. The point, in

my opinion, is that it's an actively regulated factor rather than a

passively regulated factor...which makes notions of needing to

carefully balance our acid-forming foods with alkali-forming foods

pretty unconvincing in the real world.

[Guest guest]

> There aren't any from what I can tell. I think you pretty much hit

> the nail on the head. We've been discussing this on another list

> recently. There is an issue with blood pH...it needs to be kept in

a

> fairly tightly defined range. Food *does* impact it, but the body

> doesn't just passively receive the pH from the food; it actively

> regulates it via respiration and kidney action. So if a food is

> affecting pH and the body isn't properly recovering, it's probably

> more related to the proper functioning of one of those

> elimination/neutralization pathways.

>

>

This may be an old vegetarian myth, but doesn't the body deal with

blood that is too acidic by neutralizing with calcium?

********

I use to do BTA's (biological terrain assessment). This test measures a persons

blood, urine and saliva on three parameters: pH, redox and mineral

concentrations. It was very rare to see the blood pH go out of normal range but

the urine and saliva can show major shifts. This is because the body has all

sorts of mechanisms to keep the blood pH within the narrow range of normal

(blood pH being more vital to life than the other two). It is a very sick person

who's blood pH is significantly off. One of the mechanisms the body uses to

alkalize when the body is too acidic is to pull calcium from the bones...at

least this is commonly taught to BTA practitioners. It is also frequently taught

that acidic diets high in animal proteins are a culpit in overacid conditions

but I think this is too simplified. I think it is probably more accurate to say

that diets high in fast food & processed foods which don't digest well and

create putrification and fermentation in the intestines are creating toxins

which are acidic. Digestion seems to be a key factor in balancing pH - eating

foods and food combinations that digest well and don't putrify, getting lots of

minerals, eating live foods with enzymes intact, etc. There is a lot of talk

about high alkaline water being good for neutralizing acids but I think the

truth behind this is that the high alkaline water is high in electrons which

bind to toxins and help eliminate them...it is the elimination of toxins that

alkalizes, not the addition of an alkaline substance. Lemon water is very acidic

but is alklizing in the body for the same reasons as the high electron water.

Barb

[Guest guest]

At 09:00 PM 5/22/2002 +0000, you wrote:

> > There aren't any from what I can tell. I think you pretty much hit

> > the nail on the head. We've been discussing this on another list

> > recently. There is an issue with blood pH...it needs to be kept in

>a

> > fairly tightly defined range. Food *does* impact it, but the body

> > doesn't just passively receive the pH from the food; it actively

> > regulates it via respiration and kidney action. So if a food is

> > affecting pH and the body isn't properly recovering, it's probably

> > more related to the proper functioning of one of those

> > elimination/neutralization pathways.

> >

> >

>

>This may be an old vegetarian myth, but doesn't the body deal with

>blood that is too acidic by neutralizing with calcium?

I looked this up for just that reason.

Here's an interesting breakdown of the chemistry involved in blood acid:

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Just in general it looks like the liver usually does the buffering. There

is one mention of lactate coming from bacterial sources, but this is a

slide presentation and it's not very detailed. Fructose is very much a part

of the equation, so it would seem like it could affect the process.

And here is one of the medical take on acidosis in general. It mentions

under " drug induced " causes, Sorbitol, Xylitol, and Fructose! Also it

mentions foods that are too alkali causing acidosis. The body normally

buffers it by adding carbonate.

http://www.aic.cuhk.edu.hk/web8/acid_base.htm

Also interesting: feeding grains to cows and horses causes acidosis, which

has been well and thoroughly studied in those animals. The bacterial

overgrowth causes the acidosis. If it's the same in humans (and I'm

guessing it is), then eating lots of greens would help: so would eating

fermented foods, and meat might help the overgrowth problem too. But maybe

eating meat without some carbohydrate would have it's own acidosis effect

(too much uric acid?).

I'm also guessing that humans are better at digesting meat than they are at

digesting grains. But many sources I've read say humans don't do well with

more than 20-30% of their calories coming from protein: so if, like the

Eskimos, you don't have vegies to buffer the protein, then you have to eat

lots of fat. " Protein poisoning " was a rather common cause of death among

the pioneers, living on jerky without enough fat, worsened by not having

enough water.

Heidi Schuppenhauer

Trillium Custom Software Inc.

heidis@...

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the Info.

even thought the butter is store bought it is no salt, doesnt mention

anything about being pastureised like the others do and is also

cultured. Also ive not heard of the " nightshade " vegatables before.

where do I get information on these " toxic " items in certian

vegetables?

> > >ok here is my usual detailed daily food intake.

> > >

> > >breakfast is usually 6 raw eggs with some butter.

> > >

> > >Lunch is usually 4 lamb chops, more butter and some cheese

> > >

> > >Dinner is either beef steak, stir fry lamb, chops or pork.

> > >with dinner I have some vegetables like pumpkin, squash,

mushroom,

> > >eggplant, broccoli. Usually butter on the vegies.

>

> A thought about vegetables. There are lots of protein in the menu

> above. This may make the body fairly acidic. This contributes to

disease

> and degradation in the body. It is generally thought desirable to

be more

> toward alkaline. This can be accomplished by juicing green

vegetables and

> having about 6-8 ounces of the juice 1 hour or so before your

meals. I use

> celery (70%), parsley (15%), zucchini (15%). This has made a huge

> difference in overall health for me. Also one should consider

eating

> vegetables separately from proteins just in case the body is not

able to

> combine them easily. The fats with the foods are very helpful -

just be

> sure the butter is unsalted and, if possible, unpasteurized (same

with the

> cheese). One can get enough minerals (sodium, etc.) from the

vegetable

> juice and should avoid damaging salt. All foods should be from

good

> sources that are free of antibiotics and that were fed well with a

natural

> diet (beef eats grass naturally, not grains, for example).

Eggplant is

> from the Nightshade family and contains some alkaloid toxins (check

other

> foods in the Nightshade family too).

>

> Stir fry - interesting - the oil used is important here. Try a

really good

> olive oil such as Bariani from San Francisco or pristine coconut

oil, etc.

>

> If there is ever any belching or gas or bloating then indigestion

is

> present. Indigestion leads to disease. Try eating raw, uncooked

foods to

> see if the indigestion goes away (Steak Tar-tar anyone?).

>

> -=mark=-

[Guest guest]

Wow that was pretty awesome

thanjs you so much.

( yes your estimates were pretty close )

I do feel i am lacking terribly in calcium however I am still

sourcing raw milk. ( after all this reading i really dont want to

gulp down any store bougth stuff )

( i notice my teeth if i push my tongue up to them i can get a hint

of seeing the tongue behind the teeth )

>

> Breakfast:

> 6 *large* eggs

> 2 Tablespoons (28g) butter

>

> Lunch:

> 20 oz (566g) of australian lamb

> 2 Tablespoons (28g) butter

> 1 ounce (28g) cheddar

>

> Dinner:

> 12-15 oz (340-425g) australian lamb, beef, or pork

> 1 cup (cooked?) vegetable

> 2 Tablespoons (28g) butter

>

> Let me know if you think I'm very far off on any of these guesses.

>

> First of all, I definitely think that your carbs are too low. Your

> going to be in full ketosis considering how active you are. I

don't

> think that ketosis is a dirty word or terribly dangerous, but I

don't

> think it's an optimal place to be for a very long time either. I'd

> recommend consuming at least a little more carbs, preferably in the

> form of moderately starchy vegetables, soaked grains, soaked beans,

> or some good fruits. Carrots, potatoes, yam, sweet potatoes,

squash,

> pumpkin, soaked oatmeal, soaked beans, mango, papaya, melons.

>

> Secondly, you do appear to be deficient in a few things. You need

a

> lot more vitamin E than you're currently getting. You're only

> consuming about 50% of the vitamin E a normal person needs. You

> probably need a bit more than normal. You have a very high fat

> intake and you're very active (with 32% higher than average caloric

> intake). Both of those factors combine to create a larger need for

> vitamin E. You also appear to be deficient in calcium, magnesium

and

> folate. In addition, you appear to be marginal to possibly

deficient

> in thiamin and vitamin c.

>

> Since the diet you outlined isn't very diverse, you're also running

a

> risk of fairly serious trace element deficiencies, in my opinion.

> Also, with a fairly high protein intake, low folate is fairly

> dangerous because it's necessary to process certain amino acids.

>

> So you need more:

> Vitamin E (2x-4x)

> Calcium (2x-3x)

> Magnesium (1.5x-2x)

> Folate (2x-3x)

> Vitamin C (1.5x-3x)

> Thiamin (1.5x-3x)

>

> Vitamin E sources: seeds, nuts, broccoli, asparagus, papaya, mango,

> tomato, pumpkin, blueberries

>

> Calcium sources: more dairy, greens, sardines, soaked beans, soaked

> rye, soaked oats

>

> Magnesium sources: greens, grains, fish, nuts, seeds, beans (and

> chocolate!!)

>

> Folate sources: LIVER!, greens, oranges, beans (especially lentils)

>

> Vitamin C: fruits, vegetables, liver

>

> Thiamin: pork, poultry, whole grains (esp oats), peas, beans

>

> There are two things about your diet and this list that jump out at

> me. One is that including many some carefully selected carb foods

> from the above lists would go a long way toward rounding out your

> nutrition. The other is that you should probably vary your protein

> sources a bit more. Since you're consuming SO MANY eggs and so

much

> red meat, it wouldn't be a bad idea to replace some of that with

> other meats and fish. That too will round out some of the

nutrients.

>

> You could cut two eggs out of your morning meal and replace it with

a

> bowl of soaked oatmeal with blueberries or mango or papaya.

>

> Have only one of your meals each day be red meat. Have the other

be

> either fish, poultry or pork. Have appx 4 ounce servings of liver

> once or twice a week.

>

> Add some greens and some kind of seed or nut (preferably soaked)!

>

> I hope this helps!

>

>