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> I have a recipe from an England which calls for an herb or

> spice called " arras " .

>

> Does anybody know what the modern name for this substance is?

Hi Alan,

I'm pretty sure what you're looking for is " orris " or " orris root. "

It's used as a flavoring. I found a recipe for an orris

liqueur. ...and arras is listed as an archaic name for it.

Are you trying to brew " on's Wife's Ale? "

Hope that helps!

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> > I have a recipe from an England which calls for an herb or

> > spice called " arras " .

> >

> > Does anybody know what the modern name for this substance is?

>

> Hi Alan,

>

> I'm pretty sure what you're looking for is " orris " or " orris root. "

> It's used as a flavoring. I found a recipe for an orris

> liqueur. ...and arras is listed as an archaic name for it.

Thanks! Where did you find it?

> Are you trying to brew " on's Wife's Ale? "

AKA " on's Loquacious 1577 Ale " .

You betcha! I just built a zapzap lautering tun and intend this to be

my first all grain brew. If it comes out decent, perhaps I could send

you some by way of thanks?

Any idea what orris tastes like?

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> Thanks! Where did you find it?

I did a search on 'arras' and 'recipe'. I got a few links. One was

actually a discussion speculating about that specific ale recipe.

From there I did some more checking with a dictionary...and then did

some searches on orris root to try to verify it. I've definitely

found recipes that mention orris root as a liqueur flavoring in

England...but I've also found numerous herb compendiums that

specifically state that orris is not for human consumption and should

only be used as a scent. I think additional checking may be in

order...

> You betcha! I just built a zapzap lautering tun and intend this to

> be my first all grain brew. If it comes out decent, perhaps I

> could send you some by way of thanks?

Hey, you won't ever hear me turning down good beer! ;-)

> Any idea what orris tastes like?

Not sure, but I've found references that indicate that it's one of

the flavorings used in Bombay Saphire Gin (my favorite gin). Another

reference mentioned that orris root tincture may be used as a

flavoring that's indistinguishable from raspberry and that the

addition of another product can yield a strawberry flavor. It's

supposed to have the aroma of iris flowers (it is a member of the

iris family...it's speculated that the name orris is actually a

mutation of iris). Finally, bitterness is also mentioned as a flavor

characteristic. Bitter, berry-like, with herby, floral notes?

Sounds like a complex flavor profile! Definitely let me know how it

turns out! I found a reference about someone who had entered it in a

brewing contest. He didn't win, but he *did* score a ribbon...

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