Probiotics and Candida info please

[Guest guest]

Hi, all,

A co-op member has been battling with a yeast infection for over 2 years.

She's tried natural stuff (strict candida diet for 3 months with lots of

expensive supplements recommended by an herbalist; stricter candida diet of

only raw vegetables for 3+ weeks plus expensive supplements recommended by a

chiropractor -down to 99 lbs at 5'5 " , and in between the allopathic

method with the state's leading candida expert who said diet doesn't really

matter...) After a lot of frustration and spending way too much money, she

is resigned to just watching her diet to prevent flare ups. I told her she

shouldn't have to live that way - with a chronic yeast infection always on

the verge of a flare up.

Would you all please share recommendations, websites, and your favorite

supplements esp. probitoics?

Thanks! ine in SC

[Guest guest]

ine-

>stricter candida diet of

>only raw vegetables

Such a diet is strict indeed, but it's complete (@(*!@ & ## for candida

control. ANIMAL foods plus a few other things like coconut oil (NOT

coconut meat, which is too carby) are the way to go.

-

[Guest guest]

Hi ine,

Have been suffering similarly from Candida for years. The anti-Candida diets

seems to clear the thrush symptoms within days and yes, I have reduced my

carb intake and follow a regime somewhat between Dr. Mercola's 'Eating Plan'

using NT principals and a 'paleo diet' but... recently I've found our two

major 'elements' which weigh the odds again a full recovery. The first is

the fact that I have a severe deficiency of 'serum ferritin' (stored iron,

my haemoglobin levels are normal) that apparently makes Candida a frequent

occurrence. Might be worth having your ferritin levels checked! There seems

to be a problem of Iron absorption in the gut and I

might have to have by IV!

The second element is, according to the GU

specialist at the hospital, is the way people wash their genitals. All

soaps, natural or not,

non-alkali or not dry the skin and will facilitate bacteria and fungus

proliferation. The skin has it's own self lubricating powers and soap

negates that. I used to have what I thought was a rash on the skin fold

created as a 'souvenir' from the C-section I had with my first child and

also often in my belly button but... as soon as I've stopped using soap

(only water and gentle scrubbing) the 'rash' disappeared, never to be seen

again!!! It was Candida. It's been 2 months now and I'm rash and thrush

free.

As an NT follower I'm sure it won't be difficult for you to follow an

unorthodox cleansing regime. It's worked for me and I guess it's worth a

try. BTW, I've abandoned washing the rest of my body with soap and use

instead a natural aqueous cream with some essential oils added with a

natural loofa.

hope this helps,

Dedy

----- Original Message -----

From: " Food From Afar " <foodfromafar@...>

< >

Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 6:07 PM

Subject: Probiotics and Candida info please

> Hi, all,

>

> A co-op member has been battling with a yeast infection for over 2 years.

> She's tried natural stuff (strict candida diet for 3 months with lots of

> expensive supplements recommended by an herbalist; stricter candida diet

of

> only raw vegetables for 3+ weeks plus expensive supplements recommended by

a

> chiropractor -down to 99 lbs at 5'5 " , and in between the allopathic

> method with the state's leading candida expert who said diet doesn't

really

> matter...) After a lot of frustration and spending way too much money,

she

> is resigned to just watching her diet to prevent flare ups. I told her

she

> shouldn't have to live that way - with a chronic yeast infection always on

> the verge of a flare up.

>

> Would you all please share recommendations, websites, and your favorite

> supplements esp. probitoics?

>

> Thanks! ine in SC

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

ine,

What is a natural aqueous cream? Where do you get it?

I too have very dry skin. The only thing that

doesn't totally dry out my skin is a non soap called

cetaphil, but it is a detergent and has chemicals in

it I don't like. The natural soaps I find feel good

going on, but leave my skin very dry. Do you

recommend a lotion to put on after showering that

isn't greasy?

Jafa

--- Rundle <Dpdg@...> wrote:

> Hi ine,

> Have been suffering similarly from Candida for

> years. The anti-Candida diets

> seems to clear the thrush symptoms within days and

> yes, I have reduced my

> carb intake and follow a regime somewhat between Dr.

> Mercola's 'Eating Plan'

> using NT principals and a 'paleo diet' but...

> recently I've found our two

> major 'elements' which weigh the odds again a full

> recovery. The first is

> the fact that I have a severe deficiency of 'serum

> ferritin' (stored iron,

> my haemoglobin levels are normal) that apparently

> makes Candida a frequent

> occurrence. Might be worth having your ferritin

> levels checked! There seems

> to be a problem of Iron absorption in the gut and I

> might have to have by IV!

> The second element is, according to the GU

> specialist at the hospital, is the way people wash

> their genitals. All

> soaps, natural or not,

> non-alkali or not dry the skin and will facilitate

> bacteria and fungus

> proliferation. The skin has it's own self

> lubricating powers and soap

> negates that. I used to have what I thought was a

> rash on the skin fold

> created as a 'souvenir' from the C-section I had

> with my first child and

> also often in my belly button but... as soon as I've

> stopped using soap

> (only water and gentle scrubbing) the 'rash'

> disappeared, never to be seen

> again!!! It was Candida. It's been 2 months now and

> I'm rash and thrush

> free.

> As an NT follower I'm sure it won't be difficult for

> you to follow an

> unorthodox cleansing regime. It's worked for me and

> I guess it's worth a

> try. BTW, I've abandoned washing the rest of my body

> with soap and use

> instead a natural aqueous cream with some essential

> oils added with a

> natural loofa.

> hope this helps,

> Dedy

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: " Food From Afar " <foodfromafar@...>

> < >

> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 6:07 PM

> Subject: Probiotics and Candida

> info please

>

>

> > Hi, all,

> >

> > A co-op member has been battling with a yeast

> infection for over 2 years.

> > She's tried natural stuff (strict candida diet for

> 3 months with lots of

> > expensive supplements recommended by an herbalist;

> stricter candida diet

> of

> > only raw vegetables for 3+ weeks plus expensive

> supplements recommended by

> a

> > chiropractor -down to 99 lbs at 5'5 " , and in

> between the allopathic

> > method with the state's leading candida expert who

> said diet doesn't

> really

> > matter...) After a lot of frustration and

> spending way too much money,

> she

> > is resigned to just watching her diet to prevent

> flare ups. I told her

> she

> > shouldn't have to live that way - with a chronic

> yeast infection always on

> > the verge of a flare up.

> >

> > Would you all please share recommendations,

> websites, and your favorite

> > supplements esp. probitoics?

> >

> > Thanks! ine in SC

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Candida can be a tenacious and bitterly disappointing challenge,

and all I can offer is my own anecdotal and sloppily performed

research.

I tried lots of probiotics and though they help, for me over the

years the keys are to avoid keeping any sucrose in my system for

long. Even a dream I conjured up indicated the use of hot peppers

to clean out my G.I. tract should I eat something like wheat

that surely constipates me.

I like Coconut oil, but if I am fighting candida I consider it

fair tactics to collect every agent I can buy and take them

at the same time. Some infection sites are very hard to address.

When things are fine Colloidal Silver and Coconut oil are on

my daily regimen no matter what, and I am happy with them. If

I discover a serious infection though, it is 'war.' I am

considering fasting for the next round if there is one.

--- In @y..., " Food From Afar " <foodfromafar@c...>

wrote:

> Would you all please share recommendations, websites, and your

favorite

> supplements esp. probitoics?

>

> Thanks! ine in SC

[Guest guest]

I agree. Raw veggies might work if one used only non starchy

ones. For me raw meat might work better though.

When doing the strict diet, prepare for mood anomalies in

proportion to how much yeast starts to die. I am still looking

for a magic detoxifier to take the psychoactive stuff out

of my system, and think that calcium may do the trick.

Steve

> ine-

>

> >stricter candida diet of

> >only raw vegetables

>

> Such a diet is strict indeed, but it's complete (@(*!@ & ## for

candida

> control. ANIMAL foods plus a few other things like coconut oil

(NOT

> coconut meat, which is too carby) are the way to go.

>

>

>

>

> -

[Guest guest]

I love this list! the following explains why my first

skin stuff first popped up when I was using acetone

barehanded to wash circuit boards!

What a find! thank you! The serum ferritin is interesting

too.

Steve

> The second element is, according to the GU

> specialist at the hospital, is the way people wash their genitals.

All

> soaps, natural or not,

> non-alkali or not dry the skin and will facilitate bacteria and

fungus

> proliferation. The skin has it's own self lubricating powers and

soap

> negates that. I used to have what I thought was a rash on the skin

fold

> created as a 'souvenir' from the C-section I had with my first

child and

> also often in my belly button but... as soon as I've stopped using

soap

> (only water and gentle scrubbing) the 'rash' disappeared, never to

be seen

> again!!! It was Candida. It's been 2 months now and I'm rash and

thrush

> free.

> >

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 6/1/2002 7:07:37 AM Central Daylight Time,

foodfromafar@... writes:

> the part of the Ivory label that says 99.9% pure into his lab

> report.

>

I've always wondered....pure what? <G>

Anybody in need of Goat's milk soap made from nothing but old fashioned Lard,

Lye and Goat's milk drop me a line. It's the one thing the gov't hasn't

outlawed yet, I think.

Belinda

www.labelleacres.com

[Guest guest]

Hi, Dedy! Thanks for the input. Your experience with soap, the whole

acid/alkali thing, and the anti-yeast caprylic acid effect, explains

something I read about goat milk soap. Apparently, natural soap made with

goat milk and olive oil or a similar mild oil, may actually help skin

conditions because it has the opposite pH effect (leaving the skin's

protective effect in place) and also has caprylic acid in it which, of

course, is anti-fungal. Has anybody else heard this? I cannot find my

original source.

It also reminds me of something my father, a chemical engineer, told me a

long time ago. When he was in college, he had to do an experiment on

various cleaning agents. He proved that washing/rinsing with 3 separate

large volumes of plain old water had the same, if not better, cleaning

effect as many cleaners. Most people don't believe that - particularly in

America the land of soaps, deodorants, lotions, ad nauseum. He also got in

trouble in that lab because he was also supposed to analyze the purity of

Ivory Soap, which he apparently thought was a waste of time, because he just

stapled the part of the Ivory label that says 99.9% pure into his lab

report.

ine