Re: Digest Number 736

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TO JUDY MALONE REGARDING TYLENOL PM

PLEASE EXCUSE THE CAPS - I AM NOT SHOUTING - IT IS JUST MUCH EASIER ON MY EYES

TYLENOL PM CONTAINS BENADRYL (AN ANTIHISTIMINE) WHICH HAS AN EFFECT OF

SLEEPINESS

EACH TYLENOL PM CONTAINS 500 MG OF TYLENOL (ACETOMINOPHEN) AND 25MG OF

BENADRYL (DIPHENHYDRAMINE)

YOU MUST BE CONCERNED ABOUT TAKING TOO MUCH ACETOMINOPHEN (LIVER PROBLEMS)

ESPECIALLY OVERLAPED ON ANY OTHER NSAIDS YOU MIGHT BE TAKING

IF YOU TAKE THIS MEDICATION REGULARLY, YOU MAY DEVELOP A TOLERANCE TO ITS

EFFECTS AND EVENTUALLY YOU WILL NOT GET THE SLEEP INDUCING EFFECTS YOU DESIRE

TALK WITH YOUR PHYSICIAN ABOUT SOME OF THE NEWER SLEEP INDUCING MEDICATIONS

NOW ON THE MARKET BUT BE VERY VERY CAREFUL NOT TO BECOME DEPENDENT ON THEM

STEVE

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> TO JUDY MALONE REGARDING TYLENOL PM

>

> PLEASE EXCUSE THE CAPS - I AM NOT SHOUTING - IT IS JUST MUCH EASIER ON MY EYES

>

> TYLENOL PM CONTAINS BENADRYL (AN ANTIHISTIMINE) WHICH HAS AN EFFECT OF

> SLEEPINESS

>

> EACH TYLENOL PM CONTAINS 500 MG OF TYLENOL (ACETOMINOPHEN) AND 25MG OF

> BENADRYL (DIPHENHYDRAMINE)

>

> YOU MUST BE CONCERNED ABOUT TAKING TOO MUCH ACETOMINOPHEN (LIVER PROBLEMS)

> ESPECIALLY OVERLAPED ON ANY OTHER NSAIDS YOU MIGHT BE TAKING

>

> IF YOU TAKE THIS MEDICATION REGULARLY, YOU MAY DEVELOP A TOLERANCE TO ITS

> EFFECTS AND EVENTUALLY YOU WILL NOT GET THE SLEEP INDUCING EFFECTS YOU DESIRE

>

> TALK WITH YOUR PHYSICIAN ABOUT SOME OF THE NEWER SLEEP INDUCING MEDICATIONS

> NOW ON THE MARKET BUT BE VERY VERY CAREFUL NOT TO BECOME DEPENDENT ON THEM

>

> STEVE

>

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In a message dated 10/11/01 7:28:40 AM, writes:

<< tomorrow at 12:00 Noon (local

time) all women should run out of their houses and places of

work nude, and all men should follow them with drink in hand. >>

Gee, if I did this I think it might be considered another terrorist attack ;-)

M.

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In a message dated 10/11/01 7:28:40 AM, writes:

<< tomorrow at 12:00 Noon (local

time) all women should run out of their houses and places of

work nude, and all men should follow them with drink in hand. >>

Gee, if I did this I think it might be considered another terrorist attack ;-)

M.

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In a message dated 10/11/01 4:37:07 PM Central Daylight Time, muracat@...

writes:

> << tomorrow at 12:00 Noon (local

> time) all women should run out of their houses and places of

> work nude, and all men should follow them with drink in hand. >>

>

> Gee, if I did this I think it might be considered another terrorist attack

> ;-)

>

> M.

>

Me too. wonderful thought tho. Jessie

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In a message dated 10/11/01 4:37:07 PM Central Daylight Time, muracat@...

writes:

> << tomorrow at 12:00 Noon (local

> time) all women should run out of their houses and places of

> work nude, and all men should follow them with drink in hand. >>

>

> Gee, if I did this I think it might be considered another terrorist attack

> ;-)

>

> M.

>

Me too. wonderful thought tho. Jessie

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In a message dated 5/30/02 6:31:06 PM,

writes:

<< Anyway, he's getting coconut oil and probiotics now and his constant nasal

problems just cleared right up. >>

Thank God he's got such great parents -- there are some patent formulas that

have been made with coconut oil -- I think one of the Boston Hospitals even

has a patent on one. Perhaps you could write Enig or Jon Kabara directly

and ask them if they know a good formula for tube feeding. If you don't have

their e-mail addresses I do -- just send me a note offlist.

My son is tube fed, and the (very expensive) canned formula the dieticians

prescribed for him was made of canola oil, Karo syrup, and soy powder. I kid

you not: that's what they consider to be a good diet -- no fiber, no live

food, no antioxidants except a few vitamins. I make up my own now, in the

blender, and it's far from perfect (it's hard to get that many calories in

the amount of volume he can tolerate).

If they are anything like the dietitians I know they have no concept of live

food -- they are basically apologists for the American Food Industry -- they

defend artificial ingredients, preservatives, hormones, antibiotics, GMOs,

olestra, etc (whatever the FDA approves) -- you name it, but they come down

like zealots on supplements and herbs and especially on saturated fats and

cholesterol. I love to remind them that unless they burn all the grains,

sugars, that they so readily eat (complex or otherwise) within a couple of

hours of eating them (and unless you do heavy duty exercise that's not

likely) the fat their bodies will make from the excess is good old fashioned

saturated fat and cholesterol, just like every other mammal on the planet.

How ironic, they avoid saturated fats and cholesterol like a plague and their

own bodies turn around and make the stuff!!!

And for me at least, back when I ate low fat, high carb a la the pyramid, my

HDL was pitiful and my triglycerides were sky rocketing -- my overall 'risk

ratio' for CVD was high, now that I eat lots of saturated fats and

cholesterol, my HDL has gone up, my LDL hasn't changed and my triglycerides

are lower than my HDL -- if any of this even matters, my overall risk ratio

for heart disease is extremely low.

Namaste, Liz

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In a message dated 5/30/02 6:31:06 PM,

writes:

<< protein twice a week, >>

Boy, that part of the recommendation is criminal -- there is no way that the

'traditional' Hawaiian diet is so low in protein and from the look of it,

fat. They simply would not have thrived.

And he stressed that early Hawaiians were basically vegetarian. Now THAT part

seems odd to me. I bought the book in paperback for not very much. But then

came the " diet pack " for $125 so now I'm not sure what it's all about.

Sounds like a scam to me -- if my memory serves me well the Hawaiians were

not short on animal protein and were not basically vegetarian. Just another

low fat diet in disguise!

Liz

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In a message dated 5/30/02 6:31:06 PM,

writes:

<< It's a mystery ... maybe because the Asian diet has included a lot of

starch for a long time and they handle it better?

>>

In NT, Sally mentions that Asians have a better capacity to metabolize carbs.

Larger pancreas and more enzymes. " ...the Westerner should not necessarily

adopt Oriental rice-eating habits. Asians have larger pancreas and salivary

glands in proportion to body weight than Westerners... " p. 466

Namaste, Liz

[Guest guest]

At 05:30 AM 5/31/2002 -0400, you wrote:

>In a message dated 5/30/02 6:31:06 PM,

>writes:

>

><< Anyway, he's getting coconut oil and probiotics now and his constant nasal

>problems just cleared right up. >>

>

>Thank God he's got such great parents -- there are some patent formulas that

>have been made with coconut oil -- I think one of the Boston Hospitals even

>has a patent on one. Perhaps you could write Enig or Jon Kabara directly

>and ask them if they know a good formula for tube feeding. If you don't have

>their e-mail addresses I do -- just send me a note offlist.

Coconut oil is great. I thought Sally Fallon was nuts when I first read about

it, but I'd been using MCT and it's good stuff. Anyway, it's a lot cheaper than

microlipids! Thanks for the offer on the addresses, but he's not a baby and

really, any good adult diet would work for him (he's 5). The hard part is

getting the caloric intake up without much volume and still going through a

tube, but we're making good progress. What got me is that I tried to get a

bigger tube to " normalize " his diet and got no good response -- they'd never

heard of such a problem. Really, once a kid is on tube feeding everyone

(including the parents) is just as happy to feed out of a can.

>My son is tube fed, and the (very expensive) canned formula the dieticians

>prescribed for him was made of canola oil, Karo syrup, and soy powder. I kid

>you not: that's what they consider to be a good diet -- no fiber, no live

>food, no antioxidants except a few vitamins. I make up my own now, in the

>blender, and it's far from perfect (it's hard to get that many calories in

>the amount of volume he can tolerate).

>

>If they are anything like the dietitians I know they have no concept of live

>food -- they are basically apologists for the American Food Industry -- they

>defend artificial ingredients, preservatives, hormones, antibiotics, GMOs,

>olestra, etc (whatever the FDA approves) -- you name it, but they come down

>like zealots on supplements and herbs and especially on saturated fats and

>cholesterol. I love to remind them that unless they burn all the grains,

>sugars, that they so readily eat (complex or otherwise) within a couple of

>hours of eating them (and unless you do heavy duty exercise that's not

>likely) the fat their bodies will make from the excess is good old fashioned

>saturated fat and cholesterol, just like every other mammal on the planet.

>How ironic, they avoid saturated fats and cholesterol like a plague and their

>own bodies turn around and make the stuff!!!

That's an interesting point about the body making saturated fats and

cholesterol!

And yes, the dieticians are a clueless as anyone. Really, I feel like Suze in

the grocery store, on the other side of the Matrix watching everyone live in

this unreal world. I'm fortunate to have a family that just kind of believes me

when I say something is bad and we aren't having it in our house any more (like

when I stopped buying margerine) -- if I had to fight them too I'd feel like

Alice in Wonderland. I really appreciate the " grounding " of this group! I kind

of feel sorry for the doctors though, and the dieticians: when I called them on

it, they said " well, basically most parents just won't go to that much work " .

They have problems enough, I guess, with parents not even doing the basics. And

frankly, I can't see how a parent with a regular job and a regular household

could even deal with an " easy " kid (like mine, who besides some feeding issues

is pretty " normal " ), much less a kid with CF, autism, etc.

>And for me at least, back when I ate low fat, high carb a la the pyramid, my

>HDL was pitiful and my triglycerides were sky rocketing -- my overall 'risk

>ratio' for CVD was high, now that I eat lots of saturated fats and

>cholesterol, my HDL has gone up, my LDL hasn't changed and my triglycerides

>are lower than my HDL -- if any of this even matters, my overall risk ratio

>for heart disease is extremely low.

I'd be interested to see what mine is now. My diet has never been very low in

fat, but my HDL was really good last time they checked. Having malabsorption

problems for so long though, I don't think my body is in very good shape.

>Namaste, Liz

Heidi Schuppenhauer

Trillium Custom Software Inc.

heidis@...

[Guest guest]

Hi Heidi,

I was wondering if you had tried adding 1/2 teaspoon of cod liver oil

and/or butter oil to your son's dietary plan. Price found them to be

extrememly helpful, as you probably already know, and I noticed you

did not mention them in the mix with coconut oil, etc.

Sheila

..

> >In a message dated 5/30/02 6:31:06 PM, @y...

> >writes:

> >

> ><< Anyway, he's getting coconut oil and probiotics now and his

constant nasal

> >problems just cleared right up. >>

> >

> >Thank God he's got such great parents -- there are some patent

formulas that

> >have been made with coconut oil -- I think one of the Boston

Hospitals even

> >has a patent on one. Perhaps you could write Enig or Jon

Kabara directly

> >and ask them if they know a good formula for tube feeding. If you

don't have

> >their e-mail addresses I do -- just send me a note offlist.

>

> Coconut oil is great. I thought Sally Fallon was nuts when I first

read about it, but I'd been using MCT and it's good stuff. Anyway,

it's a lot cheaper than microlipids! Thanks for the offer on the

addresses, but he's not a baby and really, any good adult diet would

work for him (he's 5). The hard part is getting the caloric intake up

without much volume and still going through a tube, but we're making

good progress. What got me is that I tried to get a bigger tube

to " normalize " his diet and got no good response -- they'd never

heard of such a problem. Really, once a kid is on tube feeding

everyone (including the parents) is just as happy to feed out of a

can.

>

> >My son is tube fed, and the (very expensive) canned formula the

dieticians

> >prescribed for him was made of canola oil, Karo syrup, and soy

powder. I kid

> >you not: that's what they consider to be a good diet -- no fiber,

no live

> >food, no antioxidants except a few vitamins. I make up my own now,

in the

> >blender, and it's far from perfect (it's hard to get that many

calories in

> >the amount of volume he can tolerate).

> >

> >If they are anything like the dietitians I know they have no

concept of live

> >food -- they are basically apologists for the American Food

Industry -- they

> >defend artificial ingredients, preservatives, hormones,

antibiotics, GMOs,

> >olestra, etc (whatever the FDA approves) -- you name it, but they

come down

> >like zealots on supplements and herbs and especially on saturated

fats and

> >cholesterol. I love to remind them that unless they burn all the

grains,

> >sugars, that they so readily eat (complex or otherwise) within a

couple of

> >hours of eating them (and unless you do heavy duty exercise that's

not

> >likely) the fat their bodies will make from the excess is good old

fashioned

> >saturated fat and cholesterol, just like every other mammal on the

planet.

> >How ironic, they avoid saturated fats and cholesterol like a

plague and their

> >own bodies turn around and make the stuff!!!

>

> That's an interesting point about the body making saturated fats

and cholesterol!

>

> And yes, the dieticians are a clueless as anyone. Really, I feel

like Suze in the grocery store, on the other side of the Matrix

watching everyone live in this unreal world. I'm fortunate to have a

family that just kind of believes me when I say something is bad and

we aren't having it in our house any more (like when I stopped buying

margerine) -- if I had to fight them too I'd feel like Alice in

Wonderland. I really appreciate the " grounding " of this group! I kind

of feel sorry for the doctors though, and the dieticians: when I

called them on it, they said " well, basically most parents just won't

go to that much work " . They have problems enough, I guess, with

parents not even doing the basics. And frankly, I can't see how a

parent with a regular job and a regular household could even deal

with an " easy " kid (like mine, who besides some feeding issues is

pretty " normal " ), much less a kid with CF, autism, etc.

>

>

> >And for me at least, back when I ate low fat, high carb a la the

pyramid, my

> >HDL was pitiful and my triglycerides were sky rocketing -- my

overall 'risk

> >ratio' for CVD was high, now that I eat lots of saturated fats and

> >cholesterol, my HDL has gone up, my LDL hasn't changed and my

triglycerides

> >are lower than my HDL -- if any of this even matters, my overall

risk ratio

> >for heart disease is extremely low.

>

> I'd be interested to see what mine is now. My diet has never been

very low in fat, but my HDL was really good last time they checked.

Having malabsorption problems for so long though, I don't think my

body is in very good shape.

>

>

>

> >Namaste, Liz

>

> Heidi Schuppenhauer

> Trillium Custom Software Inc.

> heidis@t...

[Guest guest]

Heidi-

>Really, I feel like Suze in the grocery store, on the other side of the

>Matrix watching everyone live in this unreal world.

I feel more and more like that myself. It's a kind of alienating

experience when it's hard to even get a bite to eat with someone.

-

[Guest guest]

At 03:41 PM 6/1/2002 -0400, you wrote:

>Heidi-

>

>>Really, I feel like Suze in the grocery store, on the other side of the

>>Matrix watching everyone live in this unreal world.

>

>I feel more and more like that myself. It's a kind of alienating

>experience when it's hard to even get a bite to eat with someone.

:

Yeah. One of the things I REALLY envy about those " healthy primitives " is that

they *all ate the same thing*. They guy that ripped out the buffalo liver and

ate it raw didn't have to go home and explain to his wife why he did that. And

the ladies who fermented the catapillars or urine in the corner of the

livingroom didn't have to explain to their family why that was healthy. Me, it's

a big deal to be making kimchi. I imagine life for them was restrictive in many

ways, but there must have been a lot more " belongingness " than we ever feel

today.

Heidi Schuppenhauer

Trillium Custom Software Inc.

heidis@...

[Guest guest]

At 05:00 PM 6/1/2002 +0000, you wrote:

>Hi Heidi,

>I was wondering if you had tried adding 1/2 teaspoon of cod liver oil

>and/or butter oil to your son's dietary plan. Price found them to be

>extrememly helpful, as you probably already know, and I noticed you

>did not mention them in the mix with coconut oil, etc.

>Sheila

Well, I should probably research them. I don't know what oils " balance " coconut

oil. I am using some primrose oil. The problem with some of the smelly things

(maybe codliver oil has changed since I was a kid), is that, to put it bluntly,

he throws up a lot, which has made me a little leery of things like blueberries

and highly-scented items just on the grounds of practicality.

I'd been avoiding dairy because he got diarrhea badly once or twice from

dairy-containing items, but we're putting it back bit by bit (he tolerates

yogurt ok, and it is full-fat, so he is getting some butter oil).

Heidi Schuppenhauer

Trillium Custom Software Inc.

heidis@...

[Guest guest]

Hi Heidi,

I can understand your hesitancy to add cod liver oil to his food.

Maybe 1/2 t would be way too much to begin with, but a drop or two

might be okay in the beginning. I think I recall Sally saying the

Radient Life cod liver oil was almost tasteless. Please correct me it

I am wrong about this. I haven't tried it yet, but Sally uses it

everyday. I am glad he is getting some butter oil in the full fat

yogurt.

You have a big challenge there and you are to be commended for all

your loving efforts. It takes a brave person to step out beyond the

norm of medical treatment and do the research and experimentation

necessary to improve health. My respect and prayers are with you both.

Sheila.

> >Hi Heidi,

> >I was wondering if you had tried adding 1/2 teaspoon of cod liver

oil

> >and/or butter oil to your son's dietary plan. Price found them to

be

> >extrememly helpful, as you probably already know, and I noticed

you

> >did not mention them in the mix with coconut oil, etc.

> >Sheila

>

> Well, I should probably research them. I don't know what

oils " balance " coconut oil. I am using some primrose oil. The problem

with some of the smelly things (maybe codliver oil has changed since

I was a kid), is that, to put it bluntly, he throws up a lot, which

has made me a little leery of things like blueberries and highly-

scented items just on the grounds of practicality.

>

> I'd been avoiding dairy because he got diarrhea badly once or twice

from dairy-containing items, but we're putting it back bit by bit (he

tolerates yogurt ok, and it is full-fat, so he is getting some butter

oil).

>

>

>

> Heidi Schuppenhauer

> Trillium Custom Software Inc.

> heidis@t...

[Guest guest]

I appreciate the input! I do take it all into account and have gotten some good

ideas from people. The thing that concerns me the most has always been the lack

of fruits and vegetables, which I'm adding here and there (and more and more).

Good fats are necessary, but a lot of the statistics for health have always been

that people do better with more fruits and veggies -- and the canned food kids

get NONE.

I don't think Price thought about this much because in his day, most people

actually ate a fair amount of fruits and veggies, whether they were

industrialized or not. They seem to have disappeared off the menu in the last 20

years or so.

-- Heidi

At 11:22 PM 6/2/2002 +0000, you wrote:

>Hi Heidi,

>I can understand your hesitancy to add cod liver oil to his food.

>Maybe 1/2 t would be way too much to begin with, but a drop or two

>might be okay in the beginning. I think I recall Sally saying the

>Radient Life cod liver oil was almost tasteless. Please correct me it

>I am wrong about this. I haven't tried it yet, but Sally uses it

>everyday. I am glad he is getting some butter oil in the full fat

>yogurt.

>You have a big challenge there and you are to be commended for all

>your loving efforts. It takes a brave person to step out beyond the

>norm of medical treatment and do the research and experimentation

>necessary to improve health. My respect and prayers are with you both.

>Sheila.

Heidi Schuppenhauer

Trillium Custom Software Inc.

heidis@...

[Guest guest]

Dear Heidi,

I know Dr. Price found native people who ate very little fruits or

vegetables. Think of the Eskimos or the native American Indians.

Their health depended mostly on vitamin A and D and other fat

soluable vitamins, mostly gotten from the saturated fat of wild

animals. The lack of large amounts of vegetables and fruits didn't

seem to hurt them a bit. They were remarkably strong and vigorous.

Read about the various cutlures and their diets at WAP and you may

not worry so much about the lack of fruits and vegetables in your

son's diet.

Would you feel better if you aded a food based powdered vitamin to

your son's diet? Mannatech, as well as other companies, make such

food based vitamins. I understand some people do much better on them

than on the synthetic type vitamins. They might be worth looking into

and should be very easy to assimilate in a compromised digestive

tract.

You are wise to go very slowy and carefully with anything new.

Sheila

> >Hi Heidi,

> >I can understand your hesitancy to add cod liver oil to his food.

> >Maybe 1/2 t would be way too much to begin with, but a drop or

two

> >might be okay in the beginning. I think I recall Sally saying the

> >Radient Life cod liver oil was almost tasteless. Please correct me

it

> >I am wrong about this. I haven't tried it yet, but Sally uses it

> >everyday. I am glad he is getting some butter oil in the full fat

> >yogurt.

> >You have a big challenge there and you are to be commended for all

> >your loving efforts. It takes a brave person to step out beyond

the

> >norm of medical treatment and do the research and experimentation

> >necessary to improve health. My respect and prayers are with you

both.

> >Sheila.

>

> Heidi Schuppenhauer

> Trillium Custom Software Inc.

> heidis@t...

[Guest guest]

At 06:14 AM 6/3/2002 +0000, you wrote:

>Dear Heidi,

>I know Dr. Price found native people who ate very little fruits or

>vegetables. Think of the Eskimos or the native American Indians.

>Their health depended mostly on vitamin A and D and other fat

>soluable vitamins, mostly gotten from the saturated fat of wild

>animals. The lack of large amounts of vegetables and fruits didn't

>seem to hurt them a bit. They were remarkably strong and vigorous.

>Read about the various cutlures and their diets at WAP and you may

>not worry so much about the lack of fruits and vegetables in your

>son's diet.

I have read some, and what impresses me is that the Eskimos were very particular

about their food and what parts of the animal to eat. We don't have that " native

knowledge " . I like the idea of adding liver now and then though. There are a lot

of diseases that (nowadays anyway) become more prevalent the further north you

go, and the cause seems to be lack of vegies. Adding fruit and vegies to the

diet seems to make a great improvement -- if you ate the right kinds of raw meat

you could probably do ok too. Anyway, he IS doing ok. His problems were chronic

diarrhea and nasal congestion, and that has totally cleared up on our " new "

formula. His growth has far exceeded expectations, but that may or may not be a

good thing (they suspect Marfans in the family).

>Would you feel better if you aded a food based powdered vitamin to

>your son's diet? Mannatech, as well as other companies, make such

>food based vitamins. I understand some people do much better on them

>than on the synthetic type vitamins. They might be worth looking into

>and should be very easy to assimilate in a compromised digestive

>tract.

I have been adding vitamins -- getting higher quality ones isn't a bad idea

though!

>You are wise to go very slowy and carefully with anything new.

Thanks. It's a balancing act. Plus I try everything out on ME first. Like Kefir

-- I'm giving it to him now, after me and Dad have been eating it for a couple

of months.

I'm kind of surprised they don't mention probiotics for tube-fed kids. The

formula is high in protein etc. and is just WAITING for germs to get in it,

which has always made me paranoid about it getting contaminated. Adding a nice

dose of kefir or yogurt would, I believe, make it a whole lot safer. Kefir

especially is so darn aggressive I don't think salmonella would stand a chance.

(and yeah, I'm adding kefir now!).

Heidi Schuppenhauer

Trillium Custom Software Inc.

heidis@...

[Guest guest]

On Sat, 01 Jun 2002 17:00:02 -0000 " h2ocolor1937 "

<h2ocolor@...> writes:

Hi Heidi,

I was wondering if you had tried adding 1/2 teaspoon of cod liver oil

and/or butter oil to your son's dietary plan. Price found them to be

extrememly helpful, as you probably already know, and I noticed you

did not mention them in the mix with coconut oil, etc.

Sheila

****Price found the combination of the butter oil and cod liver were most

powerful.

Bianca

[Guest guest]

On Sun, 02 Jun 2002 22:19:08 -0700 Heidi Schuppenhauer

<heidis@...> writes:

I appreciate the input! I do take it all into account and have gotten

some good ideas from people. The thing that concerns me the most has

always been the lack of fruits and vegetables, which I'm adding here and

there (and more and more). Good fats are necessary, but a lot of the

statistics for health have always been that people do better with more

fruits and veggies -- and the canned food kids get NONE.

I don't think Price thought about this much because in his day, most

people actually ate a fair amount of fruits and veggies, whether they

were industrialized or not. They seem to have disappeared off the menu in

the last 20 years or so.

******Fruits do not figure prominently in the research of Dr. Price and

thus in the diet of the healthy primitives. In fact the silence about

fruits is almost deafening given all we hear about them today. Green

veggies are more prominent but the clear and away the distinctive

characteristices of these groups were their reliance on animal foods of

all sorts for optimal health.

Bianca

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In a message dated 9/3/2005 1:49:13 P.M. Central Standard Time,

writes:

My case with foods I couldn't eat was a little different. Everything

I couldn't have came back up, so I had no choice about what I ate.

But I turned around all food sensitivities on the candida program,

except my reactions to soy, MSG, calcium chloride and other

mycotoxins. I also don't do well on corn but it is loaded with

mycotoxins.

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post it? It is from me.

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> In a message dated 9/3/2005 1:49:13 P.M. Central Standard Time,

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> My case with foods I couldn't eat was a little different.

Everything

> I couldn't have came back up, so I had no choice about what I

ate.

> But I turned around all food sensitivities on the candida

program,

> except my reactions to soy, MSG, calcium chloride and other

> mycotoxins. I also don't do well on corn but it is loaded with

> mycotoxins.

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