Guest guest Posted June 21, 2002 Report Share Posted June 21, 2002 Due to a reason, my sister had to stop breastfeeding her daughter and switch her to a formula (soy based, Isomil). After that the child developed constipation. I suspect disbiosis and want to know if there is a safe and effective probiotic product (or natural food) for an infant (about 2.5 month old). Keep in mind a difficulty usually associated with feeding things to small children. Maybe there's a prescription probiotic? I think my sister, being a registered nurse, would go for that option first. Thanks Roman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2002 Report Share Posted June 21, 2002 I fed my little one LC1 -- actually I think any of the probiotic pills are ok for kids. They use them in hospitals for diarrhea a lot now. Culturelle is supposed to be pretty good. You could also just add a spoonful of kefir to the soy milk -- is the child allergic to milk? At 2.5 months they drink just about anything -- I think they don't get taste buds for some time after that! -- Heidi At 06:05 PM 6/20/2002 -0700, you wrote: >Due to a reason, my sister had to stop breastfeeding her daughter and >switch her to a formula (soy based, Isomil). After that the child >developed constipation. I suspect disbiosis and want to know if there is >a safe and effective probiotic product (or natural food) for an infant >(about 2.5 month old). Keep in mind a difficulty usually associated with >feeding things to small children. Maybe there's a prescription >probiotic? I think my sister, being a registered nurse, would go for >that option first. > >Thanks > >Roman Heidi Schuppenhauer Trillium Custom Software Inc. heidis@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2002 Report Share Posted June 21, 2002 Has your sister read about soy infant formula on the WestonAPrice website? Is there any other formula she could use besides soy? Astrid ----- Original Message ----- From: Heidi Schuppenhauer <heidis@...> < > Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 1:49 AM Subject: Re: Probiotics for an infant > > I fed my little one LC1 -- actually I think any of the probiotic pills are > ok for kids. They use them in hospitals for diarrhea a lot now. Culturelle > is supposed to be pretty good. You could also just add a spoonful of kefir > to the soy milk -- is the child allergic to milk? > > At 2.5 months they drink just about anything -- I think they don't get > taste buds for some time after that! > > -- Heidi > > > At 06:05 PM 6/20/2002 -0700, you wrote: > >Due to a reason, my sister had to stop breastfeeding her daughter and > >switch her to a formula (soy based, Isomil). After that the child > >developed constipation. I suspect disbiosis and want to know if there is > >a safe and effective probiotic product (or natural food) for an infant > >(about 2.5 month old). Keep in mind a difficulty usually associated with > >feeding things to small children. Maybe there's a prescription > >probiotic? I think my sister, being a registered nurse, would go for > >that option first. > > > >Thanks > > > >Roman > > Heidi Schuppenhauer > Trillium Custom Software Inc. > heidis@... > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2002 Report Share Posted June 21, 2002 Now I understand why the child's grandmother is puzzled by and grumbles at the child's pickiness towards food. I don't know if she is allergic to milk, but she doesn't accept milk based formulas. So she is given a soy based formula, and she doesn't like that much either. She eats significantly less than she used to when mother's milk was available. She used to eat her mother's milk more or less fine. But now that doesn't seem to be an option as her mother decided to give up her control to doctors to treat her depression (she's taking antidepressants now). What is LC1? And how would you make a child that small swallow a pill? Roman Heidi Schuppenhauer wrote: > > I fed my little one LC1 -- actually I think any of the probiotic pills are > ok for kids. They use them in hospitals for diarrhea a lot now. Culturelle > is supposed to be pretty good. You could also just add a spoonful of kefir > to the soy milk -- is the child allergic to milk? > > At 2.5 months they drink just about anything -- I think they don't get > taste buds for some time after that! > > -- Heidi > > At 06:05 PM 6/20/2002 -0700, you wrote: > >Due to a reason, my sister had to stop breastfeeding her daughter and > >switch her to a formula (soy based, Isomil). After that the child > >developed constipation. I suspect disbiosis and want to know if there is > >a safe and effective probiotic product (or natural food) for an infant > >(about 2.5 month old). Keep in mind a difficulty usually associated with > >feeding things to small children. Maybe there's a prescription > >probiotic? I think my sister, being a registered nurse, would go for > >that option first. > > > >Thanks > > > >Roman > > Heidi Schuppenhauer > Trillium Custom Software Inc. > heidis@... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2002 Report Share Posted June 21, 2002 Roman, is the formula iron-fortified? I bet that is a major part of the problem. ine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2002 Report Share Posted June 21, 2002 Life Start by Natren is very good. It is especially for babies. A good health food store would stock it in the fridge. It comes in powder form. Pamela ( a new member ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2002 Report Share Posted June 22, 2002 At 07:19 AM 6/21/2002 -0700, you wrote: >I don't know if she is allergic to milk, but she doesn't accept milk >based formulas. So she is given a soy based formula, and she doesn't >like that much either. She eats significantly less than she used to when >mother's milk was available. She used to eat her mother's milk more or >less fine. But now that doesn't seem to be an option as her mother >decided to give up her control to doctors to treat her depression (she's >taking antidepressants now). > >What is LC1? And how would you make a child that small swallow a pill? LC1 is a powder that was made by Nestle -- a good probiotic, but I haven't seen it around lately, I think they discontinued it. Culturelle is sold a lot of places, and that's a good one too. But most of the probiotics come in little gel caps -- you just open them dissolve the powder into the milk. They taste like malt powder (malt is likely the base), not bad at all. They do wonders for gut problems, esp. if a person has to take antibiotics for something. However, they are pricey. A spoonful of kefir probably has just as many bacteria, and you can make as much as you want. Actually we are having problems keeping up production at this point, because we use it for so many things. I would guess that kefir is a whole lot easier to digest -- low in lactose, and the proteins are broken down -- and it has that " yummy " feel that a kid would probably like. (My daughter has always loved yogurt). Blended with a banana, it would be sweet enough for a baby (actually it's really yummy for a grownup that way too). Babies can actually survive just on bananas and, I think rice (that was the common cure for celiac babies at one point: the " banana diet " ). Fermented foods are commonly fed to babies in other cultures: they are safer from a food-poisoning point of view, and more digestible. So kefir+banana, that should work (how's it look on the spreadsheet? We had to add sodium/potassium and folic acid to our mix to meet the recommended amounts of stuff). Try it as a snack -- if the kid likes it, then you've got your probiotics AND you've got the kid to eat. If a baby won't drink something, it's likely not good for them, IMO, or the kid is sick. Usually they chow down ... My son can't eat orally (long story, but otherwise he's pretty normal), so he was fed on canned formulas and dried/reconstituted formulas forever. Looking back, I can see this was a BIG mistake. When you are a Mom, you think " well, they've figured this stuff out, a lot of kids thrive on this " , and really, my daughter did fine on Enfamil. But my son kept getting diarrhea and other problems. Eventually I gave up and tossed some brown rice in a blender and fed that to him. (Mind you, I don't have to convince him to eat it! it goes in a tube). Now he gets kefir and coconut milk and rice and hamburger and some other things (I still use vitamins " just in case " , since I'm low on vegies still). But trying to convince a depressed Mom to do anything weird is next to impossible, esp. when a baby is involved. If you can get her to dissolve some Culturelle in the mix it will help. I asked about 3 medical professionals before I tried it (that was before I got rebellious) -- and they all said probiotics were fine, just go with a name brand. Heidi Schuppenhauer Trillium Custom Software Inc. heidis@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2002 Report Share Posted June 22, 2002 Yes, the formula is with iron. Why would iron cause constipation? Roman Food From Afar wrote: > > Roman, is the formula iron-fortified? I bet that is a major part of the > problem. ine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2002 Report Share Posted June 25, 2002 Considering her mental/emotional state, she in not in a condition to read vast amounts of conflicting information about soy and make the right decision. I emailed her some stuff about soy. The child doesn't seem to tolerate milk based formula, and as far as I know, there are only milk based and soy based formulas available. I am sure she'll go only for commercial, approved by doctors formulas. Roman Astrid Froese wrote: > Has your sister read about soy infant formula on the WestonAPrice website? > Is there any other formula she could use besides soy? > Astrid > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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