Re: sudden constipation & slight upset stomach ( heavy )

[Guest guest]

Hi Yogabud,

I also went the same route, minus the coconuts as I couldn't locate

them in my area. I ate a lot of avocados and predominantly fruit,

fruit, fruit. Very rarely nuts or seeds and once in awhile I craved a

salad. Therefore, I was headed down the fruitarian path also. When I

injured myself last summer, it wouldn't heal and I'm still off work

because of it. Then (long story), I've had 2 abnormal paps since. I

saw a doctor, who told me I had many imbalances and I wouldn't heal

until I straightened those out. If this next pap doesn't come back

normal (should have results next week), the next step is some testing to

check for cancer, but they have to wait until I have the baby to do

anything. So much for what I thought was a healthy diet, it actually

ruined my health. It sounds as though you can agree with that also.

Did you use to frequent the living and raw foods board? I think I

remember you from some where? Did you injury yourself while doing yoga?

Maybe I have you mixed-up with someone else.

Glad you found your way here, I'm still trying to learn the NT way.

I haven't started fermenting veggies yet either, but was looking at the

recipes in NT yesterday, they look pretty easy actually. I did make the

chicken stock this week and had the best chicken soup ever

yesterday...the family loved it too! Plus, thanks to Irene for sharing

her Kefir grains with me, I started my first batch of Kefir last night.

The hardest part has been locating good food sources, like your trying

to find yogurt that isn't low-fat.

Keep striving for good health!

Robin

<<P.S when i was raw vegan ( heh wish i never found out about it ) i

actually became raw fruitarian. ( avodadoes and coconut were my fat

sources )>>

[Guest guest]

Hi Robyn,

Yes the injury either developed by 1 of three exercise regimes I

do/did ( gym, kung fu, yoga )

Still waiting for it to complete healing so I can get back to doing

these things.

And yes this " eat raw fruitarian diet " i feel really set my health

back instead of striving it forward.

I did used to frequent the living and raw foods board. I think my

nick was just BuD on there. The time I left that board and the diet

was when i was feeling more and more sluggish in every day life. My

last post was explaining my current energy levels/wellbeign ect. One

response I got was from a lady saying her man has felt like that for

2 years now and that it is a detox effect getting all the " cooked

food trauma " out of your system. I was just like no way. Then I

found NT in recent months.

Unfortunate for me my cooking skills arent bad but are not " great

either " this is mainly A time issue really in being able to properly

make alot of the NT meals.

[Guest guest]

Hey Yogabud,

I guess I remembered you correctly then. Welcome to the club of

previous fruitarian/raw vegans waiting to heal from injuries. I too was

given that 'detox from cooked food' line. Therefore, in trying to

'detox' so as to feel better I fasted a lot, water and otherwise. The

last time I 'fasted' I followed Roe Gallo's diluted organic orange juice

'fast' for 40 days. At the end of it I felt no better and still had the

same problems and my injury didn't heal. I don't know how many glowing

testimonies I've read about the miracles of fasting, fruitarianism,

etc., etc. and I never experienced that overwhelming state of health,

but actually my health got worse. I did lose weight though, which was a

plus in my book. However, the main goal was to achieve health and to

feel great and it just didn't happen for me. I just ended up with

further problems. Everybody bashed Tom Billings and his beyondveg site

on the living and raw foods board, but I'm glad his site was there.

After I saw Dr. Todd and was introduced to NT, I looked into his site as

well as the WAP site and others and was convinced I had been barking up

the wrong tree.

I understand the time factor and cooking thing. In raw foodism, you

avoid cooking and elaborate preparations like the plague. Now, it's

like trying to get into the swing of things and change your mind set

about how to cook and/or prepare foods all over again. What time did

you have to spend in the kitchen, when all you did is grab for fruit,

eat and run? It's not like that anymore and trying to get back into the

kitchen is almost a chore now. I'm actually at a lose trying to arrange

my time and relearning all over again. For example: the chicken I made

stock from and also chicken soup with...well I didn't realize they

stuffed the guts in a little paper bag inside the bird. I had it

boiling in the pot, when my husband asked me what I did with them. I

was clueless, so he had me pull the bird out and sure enough there was

the 'lil bag of organ meats still packed inside of the bird. I haven't

made meat dishes in over 10 years, so I felt a little stupid about the

whole thing. Hopefully, in time I'll learn to love to be in the kitchen

like Heidi.

To your health,

Robin

<<Hi Robyn,

Yes the injury either developed by 1 of three exercise regimes I do/did

( gym, kung fu, yoga )

Still waiting for it to complete healing so I can get back to doing

these things.

And yes this " eat raw fruitarian diet " i feel really set my health

back instead of striving it forward.

I did used to frequent the living and raw foods board. I think my nick

was just BuD on there. The time I left that board and the diet was when

i was feeling more and more sluggish in every day life. My last post was

explaining my current energy levels/wellbeign ect. One response I got

was from a lady saying her man has felt like that for 2 years now and

that it is a detox effect getting all the " cooked food trauma " out of

your system. I was just like no way. Then I found NT in recent months.

Unfortunate for me my cooking skills arent bad but are not " great either

" this is mainly A time issue really in being able to properly make alot

of the NT meals.>>

[Guest guest]

At 10:26 AM 7/7/2002 -0400, you wrote:

>Hopefully, in time I'll learn to love to be in the kitchen

>like Heidi.

Actually, I cheat a lot too! Lately I've taken to using cultured vegies for

my " vegie portion " of each meal. I try to have a meat, a vegetable, and

some fat and starch/sugar at each meal: the meat is easy and reheats well,

but reheated vegies are mushy. So now I just spoon in some pickled vegies

-- crunchy, spicy, no chopping! Like Kyoko says: " make kimchi and you won't

have to cook for a week " ! (The Koreans add fish to their kimchi too -- so

it's pretty much a meal on its own).

Cold salads are nice too -- like the Italian tomato, mozzarella, olive oil,

basil, onion, balsamic vineger: Mix it up and put it in the fridge. Open

when hungry. Actually that one will please the raw-foodists too?

NT cooking doesn't HAVE to be time-consuming. It takes some practice

though, and freezing stuff in advance (like broth!) helps. I freeze waffles

too, for the family (I don't like them myself) so they can pop them in the

toaster oven as needed.