Guest guest Posted June 3, 2002 Report Share Posted June 3, 2002 ----- Original Message ----- From: <Ecmillerreid@...> < > Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 8:02 AM Subject: Dietitians > In a message dated 6/1/02 8:44:55 PM, writes: > I think Sally should start a school to teach people real nutrition!! > > Namaste, Liz YES! What a brilliant Idea! Anyone going to arrange a petition or write her a letter? Dedy PS - What does 'Namaste' mean? thanks. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2002 Report Share Posted June 3, 2002 At 03:02 AM 6/3/2002 -0400, you wrote: >In a message dated 6/1/02 8:44:55 PM, writes: > ><< who find it hard to go against the grain >> >Kris, > >Pun intended I presume. > >I am in graduate school in nutrition at California State University at >Northridge (CSUN). Funny you should mention that RDs are afraid to lose their >jobs if they opening espoused NT. In one of my first courses in nutrition at >CSUN, a professor who assumed we all wanted to be RDs handed us out the rules >and regs of being an RD according to the ADA -- and she specifically >underlined a section that warned that any deviance from the accepted diet >protocols of the ADA would be grounds to have one's license revoked. So much >for intellectual honesty. Most of the people who become RDs, believe it or >not, are not really all that interested in nutrition as a science. For the >most part, they see becoming an RD as a ticket into a job -- much like being >a nurse. Even my fellow students at the graduate level are not particularly >passionate about nutrition -- for the most part they already have their RD >status and are getting a Master's to improve their careers. >One of the problems with University programs in nutrition is that quite often >they are associated with food science. Now food science should be fascinating >-- unfortunately what food science is all about is food technology, and thus >the aim of the program is to produce food technologists who will work in the >American food product industry and concoct more weird stuff. During a Food >science course I had to take we learned all about so called 'standard >products' -- an optional project that we could do in the course for instance >was to make a 'standard muffin' -- the recipe was white flour, hydrogenated >fat (even dietitians call it plastic fat), sugar, etc. I told the teacher I >would make a healthy muffin which would then become the new standard. She >didn't appreciate my humor. > During initiation meetings the food science people like to point out to us >is that food science graduates make a whole lot more money that RDs or >nutritionists ever will. > >I think Sally should start a school to teach people real nutrition!! > >Namaste, Liz One of the board members of WAPF does have such a school: http://www.powerhealth.net/intro.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2002 Report Share Posted June 4, 2002 --- Just when I thought I was all done for the evening I opened up Re: Dieticians. Now I don't know where to begin, so I don't think I will. Anyway, I certainly enjoyed the information. I guess mostly, I'd like to find some of Dr. Byrnes graduates in this area 'cause I'd like to find a good Doc to solve problems rather than prescribe drugs and be able to use my medical insurance. One thing though, they told us at the old land grant institution which I find ironic is: Food technologists are needed to feed the world, ie wholesome and nutritious food. For a while there,I thought I was going to make a difference(feed the world or have something to do with wholesome and nutritious food). One time I recommended to the Director of Research and Development at Mid-America Dairymen, Inc. we ought to put REAL on our milk label as we have the real thing(not coca-cola). That was 1979. About 10 years after I left that company I noticed it was on the milk and yogurt cartons. I didn't get a cent from that idea. And when I found REALMILK.com on the internet I found out the joke was on me times two. Pasteurized milk is not real(as KSU told me) and having grown up on raw whole milk I genuinely did enjoy the benefits of REAL milk. That's all folks, at the Kansas level anyway. Regards, Dennis In @y..., Alec <bill@o...> wrote: > At 03:02 AM 6/3/2002 -0400, you wrote: > > >In a message dated 6/1/02 8:44:55 PM, @y... writes: > > > ><< who find it hard to go against the grain >> > >Kris, > > > >Pun intended I presume. > > > >I am in graduate school in nutrition at California State University at > >Northridge (CSUN). Funny you should mention that RDs are afraid to lose their > >jobs if they opening espoused NT. In one of my first courses in nutrition at > >CSUN, a professor who assumed we all wanted to be RDs handed us out the rules > >and regs of being an RD according to the ADA -- and she specifically > >underlined a section that warned that any deviance from the accepted diet > >protocols of the ADA would be grounds to have one's license revoked. So much > >for intellectual honesty. Most of the people who become RDs, believe it or > >not, are not really all that interested in nutrition as a science. For the > >most part, they see becoming an RD as a ticket into a job -- much like being > >a nurse. Even my fellow students at the graduate level are not particularly > >passionate about nutrition -- for the most part they already have their RD > >status and are getting a Master's to improve their careers. > >One of the problems with University programs in nutrition is that quite often > >they are associated with food science. Now food science should be fascinating > >-- unfortunately what food science is all about is food technology, and thus > >the aim of the program is to produce food technologists who will work in the > >American food product industry and concoct more weird stuff. During a Food > >science course I had to take we learned all about so called 'standard > >products' -- an optional project that we could do in the course for instance > >was to make a 'standard muffin' -- the recipe was white flour, hydrogenated > >fat (even dietitians call it plastic fat), sugar, etc. I told the teacher I > >would make a healthy muffin which would then become the new standard. She > >didn't appreciate my humor. > > During initiation meetings the food science people like to point out to us > >is that food science graduates make a whole lot more money that RDs or > >nutritionists ever will. > > > >I think Sally should start a school to teach people real nutrition!! > > > >Namaste, Liz > > > One of the board members of WAPF does have such a school: > > http://www.powerhealth.net/intro.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2002 Report Share Posted June 4, 2002 > > >In a message dated 6/1/02 8:44:55 PM, @y... writes: > > > ><< who find it hard to go against the grain >> > >Kris, > > > >Pun intended I presume. > > > >I am in graduate school in nutrition at California State University at > >Northridge (CSUN). Funny you should mention that RDs are afraid to lose their > >jobs if they opening espoused NT. In one of my first courses in nutrition at > >CSUN, a professor who assumed we all wanted to be RDs handed us out the rules > >and regs of being an RD according to the ADA -- and she specifically > >underlined a section that warned that any deviance from the accepted diet > >protocols of the ADA would be grounds to have one's license revoked. So much > >for intellectual honesty. Most of the people who become RDs, believe it or > >not, are not really all that interested in nutrition as a science. For the > >most part, they see becoming an RD as a ticket into a job -- much like being > >a nurse. Even my fellow students at the graduate level are not particularly > >passionate about nutrition -- for the most part they already have their RD > >status and are getting a Master's to improve their careers. > >One of the problems with University programs in nutrition is that quite often > >they are associated with food science. Now food science should be fascinating > >-- unfortunately what food science is all about is food technology, and thus > >the aim of the program is to produce food technologists who will work in the > >American food product industry and concoct more weird stuff. During a Food > >science course I had to take we learned all about so called 'standard > >products' -- an optional project that we could do in the course for instance > >was to make a 'standard muffin' -- the recipe was white flour, hydrogenated > >fat (even dietitians call it plastic fat), sugar, etc. I told the teacher I > >would make a healthy muffin which would then become the new standard. She > >didn't appreciate my humor. > > During initiation meetings the food science people like to point out to us > >is that food science graduates make a whole lot more money that RDs or > >nutritionists ever will. > > > >I think Sally should start a school to teach people real nutrition!! > > > >Namaste, Liz > > > One of the board members of WAPF does have such a school: > > http://www.powerhealth.net/intro.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2002 Report Share Posted June 4, 2002 --- So I don't know how to run this " computer " /keyboard! Sorry for the no post but I want you to know I gave up Letterman's warmup to write this. Best regards and good luck Sol on your new endeavors. Dennis In @y..., " dkemnitz2000 " <dkemnitz2000@y...> wrote: > > > > > >In a message dated 6/1/02 8:44:55 PM, @y... writes: > > > > > ><< who find it hard to go against the grain >> > > >Kris, > > > > > >Pun intended I presume. > > > > > >I am in graduate school in nutrition at California State University > at > > >Northridge (CSUN). Funny you should mention that RDs are afraid to > lose their > > >jobs if they opening espoused NT. In one of my first courses in > nutrition at > > >CSUN, a professor who assumed we all wanted to be RDs handed us out > the rules > > >and regs of being an RD according to the ADA -- and she > specifically > > >underlined a section that warned that any deviance from the > accepted diet > > >protocols of the ADA would be grounds to have one's license > revoked. So much > > >for intellectual honesty. Most of the people who become RDs, > believe it or > > >not, are not really all that interested in nutrition as a science. > For the > > >most part, they see becoming an RD as a ticket into a job -- much > like being > > >a nurse. Even my fellow students at the graduate level are not > particularly > > >passionate about nutrition -- for the most part they already have > their RD > > >status and are getting a Master's to improve their careers. > > >One of the problems with University programs in nutrition is that > quite often > > >they are associated with food science. Now food science should be > fascinating > > >-- unfortunately what food science is all about is food technology, > and thus > > >the aim of the program is to produce food technologists who will > work in the > > >American food product industry and concoct more weird stuff. During > a Food > > >science course I had to take we learned all about so called > 'standard > > >products' -- an optional project that we could do in the course for > instance > > >was to make a 'standard muffin' -- the recipe was white flour, > hydrogenated > > >fat (even dietitians call it plastic fat), sugar, etc. I told the > teacher I > > >would make a healthy muffin which would then become the new > standard. She > > >didn't appreciate my humor. > > > During initiation meetings the food science people like to point > out to us > > >is that food science graduates make a whole lot more money that RDs > or > > >nutritionists ever will. > > > > > >I think Sally should start a school to teach people real > nutrition!! > > > > > >Namaste, Liz > > > > > > One of the board members of WAPF does have such a school: > > > > http://www.powerhealth.net/intro.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2002 Report Share Posted June 5, 2002 Dear Liz, Your comments are a sad commentary on our nutrition ed these days. > I think Sally should start a school to teach people real nutrition!! She's probably got too much on her plate already. I wonder if there is a school that approaches the teaching of nutrition differently and better. It would be a lot easier to support and encourage such an institution, but maybe they are hard to find - perhaps some of the alternative medicine schools. Peace, Kris , gardening in northwest Ohio ----- Original Message ----- From: <Ecmillerreid@...> < > Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 3:02 AM Subject: Dietitians > > In a message dated 6/1/02 8:44:55 PM, writes: > > << who find it hard to go against the grain >> > Kris, > > Pun intended I presume. > > I am in graduate school in nutrition at California State University at > Northridge (CSUN). Funny you should mention that RDs are afraid to lose their > jobs if they opening espoused NT. In one of my first courses in nutrition at > CSUN, a professor who assumed we all wanted to be RDs handed us out the rules > and regs of being an RD according to the ADA -- and she specifically > underlined a section that warned that any deviance from the accepted diet > protocols of the ADA would be grounds to have one's license revoked. So much > for intellectual honesty. Most of the people who become RDs, believe it or > not, are not really all that interested in nutrition as a science. For the > most part, they see becoming an RD as a ticket into a job -- much like being > a nurse. Even my fellow students at the graduate level are not particularly > passionate about nutrition -- for the most part they already have their RD > status and are getting a Master's to improve their careers. > One of the problems with University programs in nutrition is that quite often > they are associated with food science. Now food science should be fascinating > -- unfortunately what food science is all about is food technology, and thus > the aim of the program is to produce food technologists who will work in the > American food product industry and concoct more weird stuff. During a Food > science course I had to take we learned all about so called 'standard > products' -- an optional project that we could do in the course for instance > was to make a 'standard muffin' -- the recipe was white flour, hydrogenated > fat (even dietitians call it plastic fat), sugar, etc. I told the teacher I > would make a healthy muffin which would then become the new standard. She > didn't appreciate my humor. > During initiation meetings the food science people like to point out to us > is that food science graduates make a whole lot more money that RDs or > nutritionists ever will. > > I think Sally should start a school to teach people real nutrition!! > > Namaste, Liz > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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