Guest guest Posted July 8, 2002 Report Share Posted July 8, 2002 Several people have offered their kefir grains on this list. I am interested in getting some but am wondering if there is a difference in the tartness/sourness of the grains? My family doesn't like things to be too tart so I need grains that give a mild flavor. Or, does the tartness have to do with how long you ferment? As soon as I figure this out I'll take one of you up on your offer. Peace and Love of Christ be with you, Robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2002 Report Share Posted July 8, 2002 At 03:39 PM 7/8/2002 +0000, you wrote: >Several people have offered their kefir grains on this list. I am >interested in getting some but am wondering if there is a difference >in the tartness/sourness of the grains? My family doesn't like >things to be too tart so I need grains that give a mild flavor. Or, >does the tartness have to do with how long you ferment? As soon as I >figure this out I'll take one of you up on your offer. Mine started out tart and got milder. I don't know why. It seems if there are more grains to the amount of milk that it is milder too. However, whether it is tart or not, putting it in a blender with a banana makes a great drink that anyone can enjoy. I don't like kefir plain much myself. Heidi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2002 Report Share Posted July 8, 2002 > Several people have offered their kefir grains on this list. I > am interested in getting some but am wondering if there is a > difference in the tartness/sourness of the grains? My family > doesn't like things to be too tart so I need grains that give > a mild flavor. Or, does the tartness have to do with how long > you ferment? It depends on length of time as well as temperature. Cooler temperatures result in mellower kefir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2002 Report Share Posted July 14, 2002 Hi All, Do we derive any benefits from Kefir when made from pasteurized milk? I really can't stand to drink pasteurized milk and wonder if it is worth the effort to make kefir from pasteurized milk? Thanks Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: Heidi Schuppenhauer Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 12:08 PM Subject: Re: Kefir grains At 03:39 PM 7/8/2002 +0000, you wrote: >Several people have offered their kefir grains on this list. I am >interested in getting some but am wondering if there is a difference >in the tartness/sourness of the grains? My family doesn't like >things to be too tart so I need grains that give a mild flavor. Or, >does the tartness have to do with how long you ferment? As soon as I >figure this out I'll take one of you up on your offer. Mine started out tart and got milder. I don't know why. It seems if there are more grains to the amount of milk that it is milder too. However, whether it is tart or not, putting it in a blender with a banana makes a great drink that anyone can enjoy. I don't like kefir plain much myself. Heidi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2002 Report Share Posted July 14, 2002 Most likely. At least the probiotics. Roman Larry Lyles wrote: > Hi All, > > Do we derive any benefits from Kefir when made from pasteurized milk? I really can't stand to drink pasteurized milk and wonder if it is worth the effort to make kefir from pasteurized milk? > > Thanks > > Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2002 Report Share Posted July 14, 2002 At 09:37 AM 7/14/2002 -0500, you wrote: >Hi All, > >Do we derive any benefits from Kefir when made from pasteurized milk? I >really can't stand to drink pasteurized milk and wonder if it is worth the >effort to make kefir from pasteurized milk? > >Thanks I'd guess most people would say that raw is better, esp. if you can get it. At the rate we go through kefir though, I'd have to buy a goat to afford raw (and I may do that!). You will certainly get benefits from Kefir made with pasteurized milk: the bacteria break down a lot of the " bad stuff " anyway, and the bacteria produce lots of " good stuff " regardless of the medium they are in. And the bacteria themselves are good for you, regardless of what they are growing in. The calcium in the milk will be more bioavailable, and the lactose will be broken down, and the fats are in a different form (less homogenized, I think: the fats " clump " more in kefir in my experience). My experience with kefir is that it is a whole different thing than what was used to make it! You can use kefir to ferment soy milk, sugar water, vegies -- even pastuerized milk. In every case the fermented product has some health benefits. Heidi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2002 Report Share Posted November 17, 2002 Kathy- Look for Dom's Kefir In-Site.. he's got a fantastic site with tons of info on kefir. You can usually get someone to send you kefir grains for the cost of postage from one of the 2 lists that he has posted on his site.. just join the communities and ask if anyone has any to share in your area. Otherwise, you can get grains from Dom for a lot less than G.E.M. He'll share his villi and water-kefir grains as well. Meg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2003 Report Share Posted March 4, 2003 ----- Original Message ----- From: <jules2545@...> Subject: Kefir Grains > I've been buying Kefir from the health food store, but would like to > start making my own. Does anyone have any grains to share, or know of > places where I could buy some? I have just ordered some from Hoegger Supply Co. in Fayetville GA USA They have not arrived yet though. $1.95 was the price I believe. Have never ordered kefir before, but have done business with them on several occasions and was pleased. 800.221.4628 or www.hoeggergoatsupply.com Take Care, Adrienne Georgia Naturals Farm one can not always be magnificent, but simplicity is always a possible alternative Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2003 Report Share Posted March 4, 2003 > > I have just ordered some from Hoegger Supply Co. in Fayetville GA > USA They have not arrived yet though. What they're selling is not traditional kefir grains; theirs is a commercial powdered kefir starter, and it doesn't have the same organism profile found in traditional kefir grains. Genuine kefir grains are little rubbery blobs of beneficial bacteria and yeasts in a strange polysacharide matrix. If treated properly, the grains will multiply and can be given to others and passed down from generation to generation. Commercial kefir starter is only good for about seven batches of kefir before the culture weakens and a new packet of starter culture must be used. The powdered culture is not the Real Thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2003 Report Share Posted March 4, 2003 ----- Original Message ----- From: <johnny_tesla@...> Subject: Re: Kefir Grains > > > > > I have just ordered some from Hoegger Supply Co. in Fayetville GA > > USA They have not arrived yet though. > > What they're selling is not traditional kefir grains; theirs is a > commercial powdered kefir starter, and it doesn't have the same > organism profile found in traditional kefir grains. ><snippage> Wow, thanks so much for the info. I am pretty new to this fermented dairy thing and apparently I have much to learn. Take Care, Adrienne Georgia Naturals Farm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2003 Report Share Posted March 4, 2003 On Tue, 04 Mar 2003 01:38:30 -0000, you wrote: >I've been buying Kefir from the health food store, but would like to >start making my own. Does anyone have any grains to share, or know of >places where I could buy some? Where are you? Real kefir grains are often gotten from those who make their own, I've a fridge full in San Francisco. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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