Guest guest Posted May 26, 2002 Report Share Posted May 26, 2002 Question from a friend which I'd like to know the answer to too-- " Have you ever heard - or could you ask the NN group if they've heard - that spots on vegetables and fruit mean they're sick and cutting the spots out doesn't help any more than surgery does for cancer. That's one of Majid Ali's things. He seems to think you should throw them out and not eat them. " - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2002 Report Share Posted May 26, 2002 - > " Have you ever heard - or could you ask the NN group if they've heard - that >spots on vegetables and fruit mean they're sick and cutting the spots out >doesn't help any more than surgery does for cancer. That's one of Majid >Ali's things. He seems to think you should throw them out and not eat >them. " Well, there are spots and there are spots. <g> A truly healthy fruit or vegetable grown on really fertile soil will generally just dry out without rotting or getting diseased. So spots are bad, and can be awful depending on what's causing them. However, it's all but impossible nowadays to get good produce grown on adequately fertile soil, and you can't very well throw out everything... - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2002 Report Share Posted May 26, 2002 At 03:53 PM 5/26/2002 -0400, you wrote: > > " Have you ever heard - or could you ask the NN group if they've heard - that > >spots on vegetables and fruit mean they're sick and cutting the spots out > >doesn't help any more than surgery does for cancer. That's one of Majid > >Ali's things. He seems to think you should throw them out and not eat > >them. " I have some wonderful organic apricots and they have some spots on them and them start to rot fairly quickly (out on the counter instead of refrigerated). But they are delicious and taste wholesome and complete to me. Some organic apples also have spots but that doesn't seem to diminish the quality from my perspective. I think organic foods seems to have more spots on them since they have been attacked by some insects, etc. For my money this is fine and, more to the point, preferable. -=mark=- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2002 Report Share Posted May 27, 2002 At 03:22 PM 5/26/2002 -0400, you wrote: > " Have you ever heard - or could you ask the NN group if they've heard - that >spots on vegetables and fruit mean they're sick and cutting the spots out >doesn't help any more than surgery does for cancer. That's one of Majid >Ali's things. He seems to think you should throw them out and not eat >them. " > >- And what kind of spots? My apples tend to get spots because I dropped them. Bananas always get spots, that's how they are. Potatoes get eyes, and you should cut them out. Homegrown apples around here get blotches, which are a kind of fungus, unless you spray them, but it doesn't hurt the apple any (Apples are kind of overbred: hardier fruit like the old plums don't have that problem). Some fruit would dry out without rotting, but it depends on the climate, and in this climate everything tends to mold. Anyway, the spots I see aren't like cancer, they are more like a local infection, and if I threw out every fruit with a spot (or a bug, for that matter) I would have to give up fruit! Heidi Schuppenhauer Trillium Custom Software Inc. heidis@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2002 Report Share Posted May 27, 2002 From what I've experienced, I would say that this is true. I get my vegetables from an organic farm nearby that focuses on high soil fertility. The most amazing thing I've noticed in working there 1 day each week is that there is virtually NO pest problems! I have come to realize that if you have very healthy plants, there will not be an insect problem. The bugs or disease strike the weak plants to weed them out (hmmm...there seem to be strong parallels to human nutrition here...). And yes, those very same vegetables do just slowly dehydrate rather than rot. It still amazes me! Becky > > Well, there are spots and there are spots. <g> A truly healthy fruit or > vegetable grown on really fertile soil will generally just dry out without > rotting or getting diseased. So spots are bad, and can be awful depending > on what's causing them. However, it's all but impossible nowadays to get > good produce grown on adequately fertile soil, and you can't very well > throw out everything... > > > > > - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2002 Report Share Posted May 28, 2002 According to folks on the " brix " list fruits and vegetables that test high in brix, indicating very excellent nutrition (high in sugar and other nutrients), do not spoil readily, whereas lower brix foods, even if they are organic, are more likely to spoil. It takes skill to get everything just right in the garden to produce high brix produce. Even the organic produce I get at the co-op rarely tests excellent on brix (I bought a meter so I could do some testing.) Peace, Kris , gardening in northwest Ohio ----- Original Message ----- From: " Theta Sigma " <thetasig@...> < > Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 4:12 PM Subject: Re: spots on veggies > At 03:53 PM 5/26/2002 -0400, you wrote: > > > " Have you ever heard - or could you ask the NN group if they've heard - that > > >spots on vegetables and fruit mean they're sick and cutting the spots out > > >doesn't help any more than surgery does for cancer. That's one of Majid > > >Ali's things. He seems to think you should throw them out and not eat > > >them. " > > I have some wonderful organic apricots and they have some spots on them and > them start to rot fairly quickly (out on the counter instead of > refrigerated). But they are delicious and taste wholesome and complete to > me. Some organic apples also have spots but that doesn't seem to diminish > the quality from my perspective. I think organic foods seems to have more > spots on them since they have been attacked by some insects, etc. For my > money this is fine and, more to the point, preferable. > > -=mark=- > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2002 Report Share Posted May 28, 2002 Hi Kris, I'm also a member of brix talk and I too have a refractometer. It is very difficult to find high brix quality produce, even organic. That is why Rex started the data base, so people that have tested various produce from different suppliers can enter their results there to share with others, so they can also obtain the higher brixed quality produce themselves. Otherwise, even with a refractometer, you buy your produce, test it and depending on the measurement your stuck with it whether its good or bad. Hopefully, the data base will help to reduce getting the bad stuff, if a supplier consistently has higher quality brix produce available that one can trust. I'll have to look up the data base url to post for those that are interested. Robin in northern Michigan <<According to folks on the " brix " list fruits and vegetables that test high in brix, indicating very excellent nutrition (high in sugar and other nutrients), do not spoil readily, whereas lower brix foods, even if they are organic, are more likely to spoil. It takes skill to get everything just right in the garden to produce high brix produce. Even the organic produce I get at the co-op rarely tests excellent on brix (I bought a meter so I could do some testing.) Peace, Kris , gardening in northwest Ohio>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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