Re: Carbs and weight gain Was:My Butcher and heart disease

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Kris and Heidi,

Thanks for all your feedback on this topic! I'm certainly glad you

cleared this one up for me...(Duh! )

<<No, no! 113 gm is the *weight* of 1/2 cup of liquid. 1/2 cup of fruit

or starchy vegetable contains roughly 15 gm of CHO. 1/2 cup of cooked

green leafy veggie has about 5 gm CHO>>

I lost over 85 lbs. last year eating only raw fruits and salads,

some occasional nuts. I don't eat a lot of starchy vegs or the breads

and pastas, so I think I'm pretty safe from triggering an insulin

response. Nor do I take drugs or drink coffee or alcohol.

<<Fruit sugar is the most likely to be stored as fat though (fructose is

known for it), though a lot of fruits don't really have all that much

fructose and the fiber in a whole fruit will fill you up fast. Veggies

-- not to worry, it probably takes more calories to digest them than

they give.

If the concern is insulin response, then bread and pasta are still not

good, neither are potatoes. But fruits don't trigger insulin much. And

non-starchy veggies are fine. But for insulin, you also have to avoid

coffee, alcohol, most pharmacuticals (I'm not saying I buy all this, but

this is what is written about it).>>

Where can you get MCT? I'm thinking after I have the baby it may

be helpful to me. However, I'm not sure about the highly processed

part. What type of processing?

<<MCT is part of coconut oil. Stands for Medium Chain Triglycerides. The

bodybuilders use it instead of oil, because it doesn't cause fat gain,

but it give lots of energy. You can use it instead of carbs. It goes

straight into the cells for energy, like a carb, but doesn't raise

insulin levels. I like it on salads, because coconut oil is too solid

for a salad. I got into it because of Cliff Sheats, also because I

couldn't digest fats well. MCT digests very, very easily. Hence it is

also used for sick kids. But it's really pricey, and you don't need it

for nutrition: coconut oil has more " stuff " , esp. the virgin kind.>>

<<MCT is Medium chain triglycerides, a very pricey, no doubt highly

processed fat you get from the druggist, used in a ketogenic diet for

treatment of epilepsy>>

I'll have to try it with napa, my hubby really likes napa.

<<Just make sauerkraut, but use napa cabbage. >>

Thanks for the recipe, don't worry I don't buy Worcestershire

sauce.

<<OK -- here's one of the family's favorites:

Irish Stew...>>

I eat fruit, but I don't chow on a SAD. I'm just thinking if fruit

doesn't cause the insulin response in the same way as other carbs do,

than why such the weight gain since I added back protein and fats into

my diet? Even if I haven't decreased my fruit intake as much as I

probably should?

<<No doubt that's what's putting on the weight too fast - as happens

with lots of young mothers who happily chow down a typical fatty

American diet. Your body doesn't have a very good mechanism for signally

that you've eaten enough carb, so it's easy to over eat them. Every time

you eat excess carbs your body puts out lots of insulin and drives that

excess sugar into your fat cells as fat. Fat, on the other hand, lets

you know that you've had enough, and, if I understand the mechanism

correctly, the fat hangs around in your blood stream and cells until

it's needed, providing a ready supply for the heart, which only burns

fat for energy. That's why it leaves you satisfied so much longer than

carbs.>>

Cheers,

Robin