Guest guest Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 shingles vaccine - (which means you can catch vax version of chickenpox from these people who had this vaccine, up to 1 month after the vaccine) Varicella Shedding Detected Up to Month After Zoster Vaccination By: BRUCE JANCIN, Internal Medicine News Digital Network http://www.internalmedicinenews.com/news/infectious-diseases/single-article/varicella-shedding-detected-up-to-month-after-zoster-vaccination/8f6b51d39f.html NEW ORLEANS – Varicella zoster virus DNA was detected in subjects’ saliva for a month after immunization with the Zostavax herpes zoster vaccine in a prospective study. Genotypic analysis demonstrated that the varicella zoster virus that was present in saliva was indeed the Zostavax live attenuated vaccine virus, Dr. M. DiGiorgio said at the annual meeting of the American Academy of Dermatology.... - - - - Not that viruses ever cause anything - just because present, does not mean cause? I do not think we are told the truth about what viruses are or are not...Sheri Do viruses cause inner ear disturbances? Pyykko I, Zou J. ORL J Otorhinolaryngol Relat Spec. 2008;70(1):32-40; discussion 40-1 The association of viral infection to inner ear disease is controversial. Experiments on animals show that several viruses are capable of causing hearing loss, if applied into the perilymph. Some of these have specific affinity to the cellular type of the inner ear, as sensory epithelia and cochlear nerve. Some viruses as adenoviruses and sackie virus B have specific CAR receptors that are identified in different cell types, whereas other act by attaching onto nonspecific cellular surface receptors. Some viruses such as varicella zoster virus (VZV) do not cause disease in rodents. We assessed 273 patients with clinical, serological, neuro-otologic and endoscopic evaluations. Of the 273 patients, 43 served as control subjects. The patients either had Ménière's disease (n = 158), recurrent vertigo of unknown etiology (n = 56), or hearing loss (n = 17). Antibodies against neurotropic and common viruses were evaluated. VZV, influenza B, CBV5 and RSV titers were significantly elevated in patients with inner ear disease when compared with the control group. In analyzing the internal relationship, VZV and influenza B were intercorrelated. We did not find a correlation between hearing loss and viral titers. In conclusion, VZV, sackie virus B5 and influenza B virus may be the main causes of inner ear disorder. The spiral and Scarpa's ganglion are potential sites harboring viral DNA for possible latent infection. © 2008 S. Karger AG, Basel Presence of herpesviruses in middle ear fluid of children with otitis media with effusion. Bulut Y, Karlidag T, Seyrek A, Keles E, Toraman ZA. Pediatr Int. 2007 Feb;49(1):36-9. BACKGROUND: Otitis media with effusion (OME) is a disease that frequently occurs in children. Etiopathogenesis of the diseases has not been completely elucidated. There are limited numbers of studies on the presence of herpesviruses in otitis media cases with OME. The present study was undertaken to determine the rate of some herpesviruses in OME cases of children. METHODS: A total of 92-middle ear fluids were collected from 51 children. The samples were analyzed using polymerase chain reaction (PCR) for detection of herpesviruses including Herpes simplex virus (HSV), cytomegalovirus (CMV), Varicella zoster virus (VZV), and Epstein-Barr virus (EBV). RESULTS: PCR analysis of the 92 samples showed that genomes of EBV in 12 (13.04%), HSV in seven (7.60%), CMV in five (5.43%), and VZV in three (3.26%) were present. Two of these samples were positive for both HSV and EBV genomes. Therefore, 25 (27.17%) of the samples were determined to be infected with any of the herpesviruses tested. CONCLUSIONS: In the present study, herpesviruses were determined at a high rate in middle ear fluids of children with OME. However, the present study is a preliminary study and more extensive studies, especially experimental studies, are required to elucidate the role of herpesviruses in pathogenesis of OME and whether there is a relation between rate of herpesviruses in OME cases, and the reactivation of latent infections. Presence of cytomegalovirus and herpes simplex virus in middle ear fluids from children with acute otitis media. Chonmaitree T, Owen MJ, Patel JA, Hedgpeth D, Horlick D, Howie VM. Clin Infect Dis. 1992 Oct;15(4):650-3. Twenty-seven (10%) of 271 infants and children with acute otitis media (AOM) were found to be infected with cytomegalovirus (CMV) or herpes simplex virus type 1 (HSV). CMV or HSV, alone or in combination with bacteria or other viruses, was isolated from the middle ear fluid (MEF) of 10 patients. In three cases, CMV alone was isolated from the MEF, and in one case, HSV alone was isolated. One of the CMV cases involved an acute primary or reactivation of CMV infection, with CMV-bacterial otitis and conjunctivitis as major manifestations. One patient with AOM and stomatitis had purulent otitis associated with the presence of HSV in MEF, with no other bacterial or viral pathogens noted in MEF or nasal wash specimens. While most patients with CMV infection were probably asymptomatic excreters at the time of development of AOM, CMV did enter the middle ear. The presence of CMV in MEF was prolonged, and the patients continued to have clinical signs of otitis despite negative bacterial cultures. Among patients with bacterial otitis, a higher proportion of those who had CMV found only in nasal wash specimens had persistent bacteria in MEF, compared with those who were concurrently infected with other viruses (57% vs. 19%; P less than .04). This report is the first to suggest an etiologic role for CMV and HSV in AOM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 shingles vaccine - (which means you can catch vax version of chickenpox from these people who had this vaccine, up to 1 month after the vaccine) Varicella Shedding Detected Up to Month After Zoster Vaccination By: BRUCE JANCIN, Internal Medicine News Digital Network http://www.internalmedicinenews.com/news/infectious-diseases/single-article/varicella-shedding-detected-up-to-month-after-zoster-vaccination/8f6b51d39f.html NEW ORLEANS – Varicella zoster virus DNA was detected in subjects’ saliva for a month after immunization with the Zostavax herpes zoster vaccine in a prospective study. Genotypic analysis demonstrated that the varicella zoster virus that was present in saliva was indeed the Zostavax live attenuated vaccine virus, Dr. M. DiGiorgio said at the annual meeting of the American Academy of Dermatology.... - - - - Not that viruses ever cause anything - just because present, does not mean cause? I do not think we are told the truth about what viruses are or are not...Sheri Do viruses cause inner ear disturbances? Pyykko I, Zou J. ORL J Otorhinolaryngol Relat Spec. 2008;70(1):32-40; discussion 40-1 The association of viral infection to inner ear disease is controversial. Experiments on animals show that several viruses are capable of causing hearing loss, if applied into the perilymph. Some of these have specific affinity to the cellular type of the inner ear, as sensory epithelia and cochlear nerve. Some viruses as adenoviruses and sackie virus B have specific CAR receptors that are identified in different cell types, whereas other act by attaching onto nonspecific cellular surface receptors. Some viruses such as varicella zoster virus (VZV) do not cause disease in rodents. We assessed 273 patients with clinical, serological, neuro-otologic and endoscopic evaluations. Of the 273 patients, 43 served as control subjects. The patients either had Ménière's disease (n = 158), recurrent vertigo of unknown etiology (n = 56), or hearing loss (n = 17). Antibodies against neurotropic and common viruses were evaluated. VZV, influenza B, CBV5 and RSV titers were significantly elevated in patients with inner ear disease when compared with the control group. In analyzing the internal relationship, VZV and influenza B were intercorrelated. We did not find a correlation between hearing loss and viral titers. In conclusion, VZV, sackie virus B5 and influenza B virus may be the main causes of inner ear disorder. The spiral and Scarpa's ganglion are potential sites harboring viral DNA for possible latent infection. © 2008 S. Karger AG, Basel Presence of herpesviruses in middle ear fluid of children with otitis media with effusion. Bulut Y, Karlidag T, Seyrek A, Keles E, Toraman ZA. Pediatr Int. 2007 Feb;49(1):36-9. BACKGROUND: Otitis media with effusion (OME) is a disease that frequently occurs in children. Etiopathogenesis of the diseases has not been completely elucidated. There are limited numbers of studies on the presence of herpesviruses in otitis media cases with OME. The present study was undertaken to determine the rate of some herpesviruses in OME cases of children. METHODS: A total of 92-middle ear fluids were collected from 51 children. The samples were analyzed using polymerase chain reaction (PCR) for detection of herpesviruses including Herpes simplex virus (HSV), cytomegalovirus (CMV), Varicella zoster virus (VZV), and Epstein-Barr virus (EBV). RESULTS: PCR analysis of the 92 samples showed that genomes of EBV in 12 (13.04%), HSV in seven (7.60%), CMV in five (5.43%), and VZV in three (3.26%) were present. Two of these samples were positive for both HSV and EBV genomes. Therefore, 25 (27.17%) of the samples were determined to be infected with any of the herpesviruses tested. CONCLUSIONS: In the present study, herpesviruses were determined at a high rate in middle ear fluids of children with OME. However, the present study is a preliminary study and more extensive studies, especially experimental studies, are required to elucidate the role of herpesviruses in pathogenesis of OME and whether there is a relation between rate of herpesviruses in OME cases, and the reactivation of latent infections. Presence of cytomegalovirus and herpes simplex virus in middle ear fluids from children with acute otitis media. Chonmaitree T, Owen MJ, Patel JA, Hedgpeth D, Horlick D, Howie VM. Clin Infect Dis. 1992 Oct;15(4):650-3. Twenty-seven (10%) of 271 infants and children with acute otitis media (AOM) were found to be infected with cytomegalovirus (CMV) or herpes simplex virus type 1 (HSV). CMV or HSV, alone or in combination with bacteria or other viruses, was isolated from the middle ear fluid (MEF) of 10 patients. In three cases, CMV alone was isolated from the MEF, and in one case, HSV alone was isolated. One of the CMV cases involved an acute primary or reactivation of CMV infection, with CMV-bacterial otitis and conjunctivitis as major manifestations. One patient with AOM and stomatitis had purulent otitis associated with the presence of HSV in MEF, with no other bacterial or viral pathogens noted in MEF or nasal wash specimens. While most patients with CMV infection were probably asymptomatic excreters at the time of development of AOM, CMV did enter the middle ear. The presence of CMV in MEF was prolonged, and the patients continued to have clinical signs of otitis despite negative bacterial cultures. Among patients with bacterial otitis, a higher proportion of those who had CMV found only in nasal wash specimens had persistent bacteria in MEF, compared with those who were concurrently infected with other viruses (57% vs. 19%; P less than .04). This report is the first to suggest an etiologic role for CMV and HSV in AOM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 I have always wondered:Can someone who has never had chickenpox get them from the shingles vaccine or someone with shingles? Or do you have to have had the chickenpox in order to get shingles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 Somebody can get chickenpox from someone with shingles (if they haven't had chickenpox yet). But you cannot get shingles from someone with shingles. You can't get shingles if you haven't had chickenpox, so it makes no sense to give someone a shingles vaccine if they haven't had chickenpox. Only people who have had chickenpox can get shingles. The chickenpox virus is dormant and it can be reactivated by stress and it comes out as shingles once it is reactivated. You can get shingles more than once. Kind of confusing - hope it makes sense Vaccinations From: sassykidsboutique@...Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 12:24:54 +0000Subject: Re: Vaccine-strain Varicella Shedding Detected Up to Month After Zoster Vaccination (shingles vax) I have always wondered:Can someone who has never had chickenpox get them from the shingles vaccine or someone with shingles? Or do you have to have had the chickenpox in order to get shingles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2011 Report Share Posted March 13, 2011 Were you exposed to it, ever? It is possible your body fought it so well that you developed immunity without even noticing that you had it. http://www.youravon.com/teastep http://www.youtube.com/user/mothertory From: sassykidsboutique <sassykidsboutique@...>Subject: Re: Vaccine-strain Varicella Shedding Detected Up to Month After Zoster Vaccination (shingles vax)Vaccinations Date: Saturday, March 12, 2011, 4:28 AM -So in other words, if I never had chickenpox as a child then I have to be careful not only of the chickenpox but of shingles as well? I have to be honest, I am SO afraid of chickenpox as an adult. I have been tested and the results came back equivocal. About 5 years ago when I took the kids to our old pediatrician, she knew we didn't vaccinate and although they accepted our status, they would still try to gently push the shots. When we were there, somehow I mentioned that I never had the pox as a kid and she scared the crap out of me. She begged ME to get the pox vaccine. She said she got the pox as an adult and they went into her lungs, she was hospitalized for a long time and she almost died. She said it is SOOOO much worse as an adult. Ever since then I have been scared to death of getting it. I have 3 kids, 2 school aged and I am very active at school (GS leader,homeroom parent etc) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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