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Suze et al-

> " Raw, unpasteurized milk and raw milk dairy products may contain

>health-causing micro-organisms. "

>>>>>>Two questions spring to mind about that article: first, is the CDC's

allegation that food poisoning outbreaks occur due to raw milk (notice the

fishy wording)

********dunno. bet tim might know. i'm suspect, though that states are

fishing for something so that they may shut down small producers. not sure

about all the politics of CDC and state regulators, but am wary. not that

raw milk *can't* contain pathogenic micro-organisms because those little

buggers are everywhere! but a healthy gut deals with them, and a healthy gut

requires " health-causing " micro-organisms, which pasteurization would likely

destroy.

>>>>>and second, if it is true, are those outbreaks from raw

_grassfed_ milk or raw _grainfed_ milk. The two are extremely different

animals due to cows' inevitable dysbiosis when on a grain diet. Obviously

the anthropological data collected in NAPD indicate that raw dairy is

extremely healthful, but it refers strictly to raw grassfed dairy. I know

some disagree, but I'm a little leery of eating raw meat or dairy from

non-pastured sources. Luckily I don't have to, but not everyone has that

luxury, and if my financial fortunes change, I might not either.

*****again - dunno. but it sounds plausible to me. i certainly wouldn't

think twice about drinking pasteured raw milk. but i do currently drink milk

from goats that get both pasture and grain and i don't think twice about

that either. i might though, think twice or 3 times about drinking

factory-farmed raw milk for the reason you state...

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Subject: A washingtonpost.com article from:

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> Suze et al-

>

> > " Raw, unpasteurized milk and raw milk dairy products may contain

> >health-causing micro-organisms. "

>

> >>>>>>Two questions spring to mind about that article: first, is the CDC's

> allegation that food poisoning outbreaks occur due to raw milk (notice the

> fishy wording)

>

> ********dunno. bet tim might know. i'm suspect, though that states are

> fishing for something so that they may shut down small producers. not sure

> about all the politics of CDC and state regulators, but am wary. not that

> raw milk *can't* contain pathogenic micro-organisms because those little

> buggers are everywhere! but a healthy gut deals with them, and a healthy

gut

> requires " health-causing " micro-organisms, which pasteurization would

likely

> destroy.

Exactly. Someone who's been living for decades on fried chicken and mashed

potatoes drinks a glass of raw milk for the first time in thirty years and

has a bit of digestive discomfort while the bacteria set themselves up in

his digestive tract, and suddenly raw milk contains pathogenic bacteria.