Guest guest Posted July 28, 2002 Report Share Posted July 28, 2002 www.kste.com Cary Nosler is on internet radio, Right now interviewing Claravel Farms owner, one of out two State Certified Raw Milk Dairy. look for listen live, download their player and off you go he is on every Sunday, but shifts time, this and the next couple of weeks is 8 am PST, i've got it recorded Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2002 Report Share Posted July 29, 2002 > www.kste.com > > Cary Nosler is on internet radio, > > Right now interviewing Claravel Farms owner, one of out two State Certified Raw > Milk Dairy. How was the show? Did they do a good job getting across the benefits and safety of raw milk? Aubin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2002 Report Share Posted July 30, 2002 On Mon, 29 Jul 2002 22:27:42 -0000, you wrote: > >> www.kste.com >> >> Cary Nosler is on internet radio, >> >> Right now interviewing Claravel Farms owner, one of our two >State Certified Raw >> Milk Dairy. > > >How was the show? Did they do a good job getting across the >benefits and safety of raw milk? Technical quality of the broadcast was lacking. Both guests were on poor lines so the were turned up, with lots of static making it hard to hear what they had to say on occasion, the host ended up being clipped, sometimes overpowering the computer speakers. This is my first attempt at listening in to this program on the internet, i hope it is not the normal fare.. As to content. The program was divided first half hour to Claravale Farms, second to Organic pastures. I missed the first 15 minutes with computer grief and my home radios don't pick up AM very well. What I got was more info about the operation. Yes, they use Jerseys, but the have a herd of 50, and don't want to grow any larger because of quality control. Aside from that, he said nothing that would make me change my mind about raw milk, if I wasn't all ready sold. Organic Pastures was a whole 'nother story. He was plugging the benefits, his product, how he runs his farm, technology he has developed to make what he does possible. Herd Size: 500, with about 350 milking at any given time. He makes a point of not over working/stressing his girls, who all have a name and he knows them personally. He is using Holsteins, but is trying to improve the breed, moving it backwards, towards is roots, away from the 'pituitary freak' found in modern dairies across the nation. *** He will, in the next two or three weeks, be offering raw colostrum. guesstimated price, one pint, around $7 He hopes to offer a farmers cheese in the near future. Is offering butter and another product or two that I do not remember. BACTERIA COUNT He was, and should be, very proud, I hope I quote the numbers right. The state inspectors allow 15,000 bacteria count per ??? and his is consistently below 3,000 (might have been below 1000) To accomplish this, he developed a portable milking machine. he takes the milker to the pasture, to the cow. The cow never lays down in dung, or is exposed to the harsh washing of a dairy, where a cow can be sprayed, like a car in a car wash, arriving at her milking station dripping with the cleaning solution that has just washed all the dirt off her back, down her sides and onto her udder. So he starts with a much cleaner product than what you will find at a commercial dairy. Both dairymen were proud of what they were doing, and rightly so. Organic Pastures seemed more aware of the health issue, but remember I missed most of Claravale, and was certainly more on top of things marketing wise. Cary Nosler did a great job on the interviews to keep the topic going quickly and very informative. This is a great outlet for the truth in food health. Not every show is about food, he seems very sympathetic, if not outright supportive of NT, but the guests on his show that I have heard range from how to stimulate Human Growth Hormone in your own body through Dr Swartzbein and Sally. Only one or two seemed to have contrary to NT thoughts. Maybe most important, several of the guests have commented that Cary is the most knowledgeable radio host they have ever been interviewed by. I did get the last 45 minutes of that hour recorded, and the next hour with Dr Sears, the Zone man. If anyone is interested, I can send it to you as an mp3 file that should play on your computer. I have asked Cary to make more program notes available to his listeners, we'll see how that goes. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2002 Report Share Posted July 30, 2002 >>>>>This is a great outlet for the truth in food health. Not every show is about food, he seems very sympathetic, if not outright supportive of NT, but the guests on his show that I have heard range from how to stimulate Human Growth Hormone in your own body through Dr Swartzbein and Sally. --------->mike, can you elaborate on this a little? i might have missed it on the list, the WAPF website, or in NT, but does sally discuss stimulating the human growth hormone somewhere? i *think* i might be going through some unusual hormonal issues right now (please god, not menopause - i'm too young!) so i'm keenly interested in this issue. TIA Suze Fisher Web Design & Development http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg/ mailto:s.fisher22@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2002 Report Share Posted July 30, 2002 Suze Fisher wrote: > > i *think* i might be going through some > unusual hormonal issues right now (please god, not menopause - i'm too > young!) so i'm keenly interested in this issue. Then you should check out maca (http://www.wholeworldbotanicals.com/royalmaca.html) because helps rejuvenate and rebalance the whole endocrine system. Read their newsletters too as they provide more insight into effective use of maca. Roman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2002 Report Share Posted July 30, 2002 meuritt@... wrote: > > Technical quality of the broadcast was lacking. Both guests were on poor lines > so the were turned up, with lots of static making it hard to hear what they had > to say on occasion, the host ended up being clipped, sometimes overpowering the > computer speakers. This is my first attempt at listening in to this program on > the internet, i hope it is not the normal fare.. It was bad on the radio too, and it was replaced by a gardening program before the show was supposed to end. I like the show, in general. Roman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2002 Report Share Posted July 30, 2002 On Mon, 29 Jul 2002 19:22:51 -0400, you wrote: >>>>>>This is a great outlet for the truth in food health. Not every show is >about >food, he seems very sympathetic, if not outright supportive of NT, but the >guests on his show that I have heard range from how to stimulate Human >Growth >Hormone in your own body through Dr Swartzbein and Sally. > >--------->mike, can you elaborate on this a little? i might have missed it >on the list, the WAPF website, or in NT, but does sally discuss stimulating >the human growth hormone somewhere? i *think* i might be going through some >unusual hormonal issues right now (please god, not menopause - i'm too >young!) so i'm keenly interested in this issue. Maybe that wasn't as clear a sentence as I thought :-) http://readysetgofitness.com/ The author of this book, or as he readily admits, collector of various studies, editing them into this book, says that we can produce human Growth Hormone ourselves through exercise. in a very distilled telling. Choose your favorite exercise, running, bicycle, swimming, whatever, anything will work. Warm up thoroughly, then go flat out until it hurts, real pain, lactic acid burn, rest, rather slow down and get the heart rate under control, and repeat. He suggested 8-10 repetitions. he also stressed when to eat carbs in relation to this exercise, sorry I don't remember, eating a good healthy diet is essential for the building blocks, and getting a good nights sleep because that is when the body produce HGH. This program was two or three months ago, so I may be a bit fuzzy, but I did alter my workouts, more in lie with what he suggests and have noticed a difference in my performance. He also cites lasting weight loss as a benefit of this routine that should be able to be done in 30 minutes or so. This fellow was the first I heard who complimented Cary on his knowledge of the health issues. And half a glass or more of raw milk before bedtime helps ensure a good nights rest. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2002 Report Share Posted July 30, 2002 Roman- >(http://www.wholeworldbotanicals.com/royalmaca.html) because helps >rejuvenate and rebalance the whole endocrine system. Read their >newsletters too as they provide more insight into effective use of maca. Do you have any personal experience with this? Though they say it's useful for both men and women, the actual information they offer seems heavily slanted towards women. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2002 Report Share Posted July 30, 2002 Idol wrote: > > Roman- > > >(http://www.wholeworldbotanicals.com/royalmaca.html) because helps > >rejuvenate and rebalance the whole endocrine system. Read their > >newsletters too as they provide more insight into effective use of maca. > > Do you have any personal experience with this? Though they say it's useful > for both men and women, the actual information they offer seems heavily > slanted towards women. > > - I do. I seems to give me more energy, but I have such a screwed up day schedule and I get so little sleep sometimes, that it's hard to notice anything work. My dad, on other hand, felt huge help when he started to take it after I told him about it. He took a different brand, though. He complained at his low energy level, but after finding a dose that was right for him, he said he was " flying " , so good he felt. He said he would come home after all day physically demanding job and be able to go to a party and dance there and have fun and come back home and still not be tired. Later he reduced the dosage, in an attempt to be more economical, and now he complains that it doesn't give him that high. My guess is that reducing the dosage had something to do with that, and also his baseline has changed. Now he compares with the better times. Also, I have told people on a discussion board about maca, and of women there who had PMS decided to try it ( a different brand too), and she couldn't stop talking of her improvement that came only a couple weeks later, maybe. I forgot if it was PMS or menopause. Another woman there, on the other hand, happened to be too sensitive, and even 1/4 tsp. made her nervous. I take about 1/2 tsp., and it's fine. People react to things differently for various reasons, so they need to work with it to find how much works for them, if at all. Roman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2002 Report Share Posted July 30, 2002 Idol wrote: > > Though they say it's useful > for both men and women, the actual information they offer seems heavily > slanted towards women. , you should take a look at Tribulus (http://www.pharmabul.com/). I learned about from the radio show being discussed here. It sounded very impressive. According Bulgarian doctor that was interviewee said it helps variety of health problems. And no wonder since it affects hormones. Roman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2002 Report Share Posted July 30, 2002 Roman- >According Bulgarian doctor that was interviewee said it >helps variety of health problems. And no wonder since it affects >hormones. Sounds like an herbal Viagra from that site, but my interest is in thyroid function and things which affect metabolism, as mine are still seriously impaired. I've read some articles which suggest that maca can help a lot, but the discussion always seems to be bound up in maca's support of the female endocrine system. One thing I read is that men taking maca better damn well be getting enough zinc, or they'll wind up getting estrogen from the maca. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2002 Report Share Posted July 30, 2002 Idol wrote: > Sounds like an herbal Viagra from that site, but my interest is in thyroid > function and things which affect metabolism, as mine are still seriously > impaired. I've read some articles which suggest that maca can help a lot, > but the discussion always seems to be bound up in maca's support of the > female endocrine system. One thing I read is that men taking maca better > damn well be getting enough zinc, or they'll wind up getting estrogen from > the maca. Maca doesn't contain estrogen or other other hormones. But it's not difficult to get zinc, even from food, is it? When I spoke to Viana, owner the Whole World Botanicals, she said that maca can improve hypothyroid condition but probably not hyper. Which is yours? I know that thyroid malfunction often stems from adrenal malfunction. Have you tested for that? One of places where you could do that is http://www.sabresciences.com/endo.html . Maca can help with adrenals too. Regular relaxation is very helpful as well. Here's how to determine what an effective relaxation session is: http://www.askwaltstollmd.com/relax.html I think I also have a hypothyroidism because my body temp is often lower than 98.6, and my extremities get cold often. I think what helped me was taking Thyrostim by Biotics Research (https://www.dcnutrition.com/products/Detail.CFM?RecordNumber=240). But I was not taking it with Flax oil as it says. And regarding Tribulus being like an herbal Viagra, that's just a marketing spin to appeal to certain type of men. It doesn't work like Viagra. It normalized your hormonal profile, and that should affect everything, from your libido to god knows what. Roman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2002 Report Share Posted July 31, 2002 > Sounds like an herbal Viagra from that site, but my interest is in thyroid > function and things which affect metabolism, as mine are still seriously > impaired. Their site said that maca was a cruciferous vegetable. Am I remembering this wrong? Is it even good for someone to use that has thyroid problems? Peace and Love of Christ be with you, Robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2002 Report Share Posted July 31, 2002 Robin- >Their site said that maca was a cruciferous vegetable. Am I >remembering this wrong? Is it even good for someone to use that has >thyroid problems? It is a cruciferous plant, but the maca is taken from the root. Whether that means it doesn't have the same thyroid antagonists, or whether it's an exception among crucifers, I simply don't know. I'm reluctant to try maca because of all my unanswered questions, but I also would like to believe that it would be very effective and helpful. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2002 Report Share Posted July 31, 2002 Idol wrote: > > Robin- > > >Their site said that maca was a cruciferous vegetable. Am I > >remembering this wrong? Is it even good for someone to use that has > >thyroid problems? > > It is a cruciferous plant, but the maca is taken from the root. Whether > that means it doesn't have the same thyroid antagonists, or whether it's an > exception among crucifers, I simply don't know. I'm reluctant to try maca > because of all my unanswered questions, but I also would like to believe > that it would be very effective and helpful. My dad also has hypothyroidism; yet, maca helped him a lot. Have you asked the company's owner your questions? And if I am not mistaken, maca they sell is an extract that has undergone heating, which is usually said to deactivate thyroid suppressing substances in cruciferous vegetables. Instead of " cooking in your own juice " , so to speak, I really think you should ask them what concerns you. Roman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2002 Report Share Posted August 1, 2002 Roman- >Maca doesn't contain estrogen or other other hormones. But it's not >difficult to get zinc, even from food, is it? Well, here's what Viana Muller said about the sex hormone issue as it applies to men in an interview with of About.com: >>Maca's Effects on Men >> >> Shomon: Can maca be helpful to men, and in particular, their >>hormonal/endocrine function? >> >>Dr. Viana Muller: As men age, like women, their output of precursor >>hormones from the hypothalamus and pituitary slows down, and they go >>through something which has been called 'andropause.' This process is >>considered more gradual than is menopause in women, taking about ten >>years of gradually declining hormone levels and will eventually leave a >>man unable to function sexually or with greatly impaired sexual >>functioning (i.e. premature ejaculation, infrequent and weak erections, >>loss of sexual desire). Some men start to experience these changes in the >>mid to late 40's and some men don't experience this type of change until >>they are 70. [However the more we know about women, the more we are >>learning that the hormonal changes in women are also very gradual and >>should not be measured primarily by the cessation of menses (menopause), >>which in any case is frequently an on again off again process. ] In a >>recent study published in the professional journal, Urology, a series of >>rat studies involving feeding some groups of rats maca and others a >>normal diet (the control groups), the groups of rats getting the maca had >>many more 'penile intromissions' (erections) than the control groups and >>in the groups of rats suffering from erectile dysfunction who were fed >>maca, a much quicker erection response was noticed as compared with the >>control groups. This experiment confirmed what most men taking maca have >>noticed, more frequent erections, stronger erections which lasted longer, >>and more sexual desire. >> >>Men need to be taking a daily zinc supplement since the prostate needs a >>lot of zinc to function adequately. And maca will work better for them if >>they have enough zinc. If they don't the man's body will tend to convert >>the progesterone it makes into estrogen. Then even though a man's body is >>making adequate testosterone, since so much is being converted by his >>body into estrogen, he will put on weight, tend to develop breasts, and >>will have low erectile function. A word of caution, about the dosage of >>maca. In men it is easy to 'overdo' it--to take too much maca for too >>long, and then the opposite effect will set in--a loss of libido with >>increased fatigue. As to her experience with using it for hypothyroidism, it seems to have involved women but no men. >maca can improve hypothyroid condition but probably not hyper. Which is >yours? Hypo. Hypo and thyroid-resistant, actually. >I know that thyroid malfunction often stems from adrenal malfunction. >Have you tested for that? I haven't tested for it, but my thyroid problem has improved moderately since I started taking Carotec's adrenal gland extract. >I think I also have a hypothyroidism because my body temp is often lower >than 98.6, and my extremities get cold often. Sounds very likely. Have you tried the Basal Metabolism test? You take your temperature under your armpit (leaving the thermometer there for ten minutes) three days running immediately upon waking, without getting out of bed or otherwise exerting yourself. If your temperature is under 97.8, odds are you have a thyroid problem. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2002 Report Share Posted August 1, 2002 Idol wrote: > Sounds very likely. Have you tried the Basal Metabolism test? You > take your temperature under your armpit (leaving the thermometer there for > ten minutes) three days running immediately upon waking, without getting > out of bed or otherwise exerting yourself. If your temperature is under > 97.8, odds are you have a thyroid problem. Yes, I've tried that, and that confirmed my suspicion. Will try again soon. Roman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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