Re: Calcium in chicken eggs

[Guest guest]

I've heard of a phenomenon called transmutation that can and does happen in

biological systems. That is all I know about it. Perhaps, others know more

about it and would share.

Roman

Heidi Schuppenhauer wrote:

> >

> This mystery was just told to me by someone who works

> for a doctor. She said it is a standard thing taught in

> medical school. I thought I'd throw it out to this fine group

> for comment!

>

> When you measure the calcium in a chicken egg,

> there is x amount of calcium, including the shell.

>

> However, if you let the egg develop into a chick,

> then measure the calcium in the chick+the shell,

> there is much MORE calcium than there was in

> the egg prior.

>

> Now, calcium is an element, so theoretically

> cannot be created or destroyed (at least not

> outside of a nuclear reactor or sun core). So

> where does the calcium come from?

>

> Heidi

[Guest guest]

Quoting Heidi Schuppenhauer <heidis@...>:

> This mystery was just told to me by someone who works

> for a doctor. She said it is a standard thing taught in

> medical school. I thought I'd throw it out to this fine group

> for comment!

>

> When you measure the calcium in a chicken egg,

> there is x amount of calcium, including the shell.

>

> However, if you let the egg develop into a chick,

> then measure the calcium in the chick+the shell,

> there is much MORE calcium than there was in

> the egg prior.

>

> Now, calcium is an element, so theoretically

> cannot be created or destroyed (at least not

> outside of a nuclear reactor or sun core). So

> where does the calcium come from?

I did a web search and found several pages referring to a process known

as " transmutation " by which one element can be converted to another within

living organisms, but they all seemed fairly flakey. One researcher

studying the phenomenon was the recipient of an Ig Nobel prize for his

work, so at the very least, we can probably safely say that it is not

recognized as a real phenomenon by the mainstream scientific community, so

I think it's unlikely that it would be commonly taught in medical school.

Perhaps your friend is just confused. Is there any chance of getting more

information?

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Do stem cells transmute?

Sheila

> Quoting Heidi Schuppenhauer <heidis@t...>:

> > This mystery was just told to me by someone who works

> > for a doctor. She said it is a standard thing taught in

> > medical school. I thought I'd throw it out to this fine group

> > for comment!

> >

> > When you measure the calcium in a chicken egg,

> > there is x amount of calcium, including the shell.

> >

> > However, if you let the egg develop into a chick,

> > then measure the calcium in the chick+the shell,

> > there is much MORE calcium than there was in

> > the egg prior.

> >

> > Now, calcium is an element, so theoretically

> > cannot be created or destroyed (at least not

> > outside of a nuclear reactor or sun core). So

> > where does the calcium come from?

>

> I did a web search and found several pages referring to a process

known

> as " transmutation " by which one element can be converted to another

within

> living organisms, but they all seemed fairly flakey. One researcher

> studying the phenomenon was the recipient of an Ig Nobel prize for

his

> work, so at the very least, we can probably safely say that it is

not

> recognized as a real phenomenon by the mainstream scientific

community, so

> I think it's unlikely that it would be commonly taught in medical

school.

> Perhaps your friend is just confused. Is there any chance of

getting more

> information?

[Guest guest]

At 05:40 PM 7/16/2002 -0700, you wrote:

>I did a web search and found several pages referring to a process known

>as " transmutation " by which one element can be converted to another within

>living organisms, but they all seemed fairly flakey. One researcher

>studying the phenomenon was the recipient of an Ig Nobel prize for his

>work, so at the very least, we can probably safely say that it is not

>recognized as a real phenomenon by the mainstream scientific community, so

>I think it's unlikely that it would be commonly taught in medical school.

>Perhaps your friend is just confused. Is there any chance of getting more

>information?

That's why I asked -- I'll be looking too. It is an interesting idea --

chicks have bones, after

all. Maybe eggs are higher in calcium than they think (the testing they do

isn't very accurate

for some of these things). It could be one of those things that gets quoted

out of context

alot (the scientific version of " urban legends " ). Chicken eggs turn out to

have half the cholesterol than was originally measured too -- no one had

bothered to re-measure since the first measurements done decades ago (I think

the difference there is in the chicken feed, myself: chickens used to get a

better diet). But anyway, it seems egg yolks have quite a bit of calcium

anyway, more than I expected.

The lady I heard it from is an RN and more scientifically versed than

most folks I meet (and not flakey at all). She didn't know any more

than what I wrote. It might cast light on the " disappearing magnesium "

in milk issue though.

Some of these measurements are done using high heat (they

burn up the thing then measure what is left). It could be that some

forms of calcium, or magnesium, actually burn to a gaseous form or something

else that isn't measured?

But , I really would like to learn how to transmute my silicon

into calcium. Can you send me the specifics? ;-)

Heidi