Re: Re: Intro - new to group - long with questions

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In a message dated 8/7/02 12:48:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

smokey@... writes:

> do still make a decaffenated ( organic water process decaf

I've heard decaf is nasty for health because of chemical processing. So is

organic decaf ok to have? Maybe, if it tastes similar, I might use thatto

remedy my love for coffee

So is there a difference between just organic and organic water-processed, or

is all organic not chemically processed?

Thanks,

Chris

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heart which burns with love for every creature: for human beings, birds, and

animals, for serpents and for demons. The thought of them and the sight of

them make the tears of the saint flow. And this immense and intense

compassion, which flows from the heart of the saints, makes them unable to

bear the sight of the smallest, most insignificant wound in any creature.

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What is the significance of shade grown coffee? I figure it is either 1)good

for your health, 2) good for the environment, or 3) good for the third world

growers, or some combination thereof.

Any further explanation would be appreciated ;-)

Thanks,

Chris

____

" What can one say of a soul, of a heart, filled with compassion? It is a

heart which burns with love for every creature: for human beings, birds, and

animals, for serpents and for demons. The thought of them and the sight of

them make the tears of the saint flow. And this immense and intense

compassion, which flows from the heart of the saints, makes them unable to

bear the sight of the smallest, most insignificant wound in any creature.

Thus they pray ceaselessly, with tears, even for animals, for enemies of the

truth, and for those who do them wrong. "

--Saint Isaac the Syrian

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On Thu, 8 Aug 2002 23:23:12 EDT, you wrote:

>In a message dated 8/7/02 12:48:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

>smokey@... writes:

>

>> do still make a decaffenated ( organic water process decaf

>

>I've heard decaf is nasty for health because of chemical processing. So is

>organic decaf ok to have? Maybe, if it tastes similar, I might use thatto

>remedy my love for coffee

>

>So is there a difference between just organic and organic water-processed, or

>is all organic not chemically processed?

I understand there are two different processes that can remove caffeine.

1= some kind of solvent

2= a water process

Of course the experts say both are safe, but why would we believe that? Exactly

how either is done, I've no idea

Mike

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At 02:17 PM 8/9/02 +0000, you wrote:

>On Thu, 8 Aug 2002 23:23:12 EDT, you wrote:

>

>>In a message dated 8/7/02 12:48:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

>>smokey@... writes:

>>

>>>  do still make a decaffenated ( organic water process decaf

>>

>>I've heard decaf is nasty for health because of chemical processing.  So is

>>organic decaf ok to have?  Maybe, if it tastes similar, I might use thatto

>>remedy my love for coffee

>>

>>So is there a difference between just organic and organic

water-processed, or

>>is all organic not chemically processed?

>

>I understand there are two different processes that can remove caffeine.

>

>1= some kind of solvent

>2= a water process

>

>Of course the experts say both are safe, but why would we believe that?

Exactly

>how either is done, I've no idea

>

>

>Mike

Somewhere I ran across that any decaffination process only removes 2% of the

caffeine. Don't think it was a misinterpretation of the 98% caffeine free seen

on labels. In organic regular coffees the rule of thumb is the darker the

roast

the lower the caffeine. I personally can't tolerate any hint of burnt bean

flavor and won't buy any with black beans. The oil they produce is gross too.

Definitely narrows down my choices. Presently its Dean's Beans Birdwatcher's

Blend, organic shade grown. Its a local company that does make decaf and would

have answers to any questions www.deansbeans.com

Wanita

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At 12:25 PM 8/9/02 -0400, you wrote:

>What is the significance of shade grown coffee?  I figure it is either

1)good

>for your health, 2) good for the environment, or 3) good for the third world

>growers, or some combination thereof.

>

>Any further explanation would be appreciated ;-)

>

>Thanks,

>Chris

All of the above, Chris. Just did a google search for shade grown coffee and

learned more than I'd read before. Ripens slower in shade for better taste,

requires no pesticides or herbicides in natural environment and maintains a

natural ecosystem. Coffee is one of the most heavily sprayed crops. Don't

think

its because so much is grown south of the border where many chemicals are

still

allowed that aren't here. Its produced more problems being taken into mass

production and away from how it was meant to be grown.

Wanita