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Dear Terry,

You did not elaborate whether  your back problems  are from herniated discs,

spinal stenosis or  pulled muscles-- if any of the discs are bulging or

herniated or you have spinal sternosis, then I would recommend an epidural--

I have had the procedure three times and there were incredible at least for me--

because they use a powerful steroid-- and those steroids not only take away the

inflammation and pain but they make you FEEL very good---

Anyway thought I would ask

 Annie

From: Dave Cruikshank <d.cruikshank@...>

Subject: Re: Re: Where is everyone? Hows is everyone

feeling?

neck pain

Date: Friday, December 5, 2008, 12:44 AM

At 12:15 PM 12/4/2008, you wrote:

>I feel like a poor kibitzer to this group. I don't have so far the

>seriousness of problem described here, but I do have to deal with an

>ongoing nagging back problem. It flares up when I have to do too

>much bending and reaching in the course of my job. What would you

>all say is best pain relief for pain in middle of back? Are these

>arthritis rubs I am seeing so expensive in the pharmacies worth it

>or are they just like the cheaper pain relief rubs?

>Thanks for the input.

>Terry

Terry for me Ice gell packs wrapped in a towel in contact with the

pain area works wonders. Of course you can't do this while working

or moving, unless you secure it with an Ace bandage. I have secured

them in my back brace before and been active. I also did use

Capcasian creme with some success. Ice works because generally the

pain comes from inflamed muscles, nerves, joints, disks, etc. When I

do use rubs I always use the store brand equivalent. Read the

ingredients, generally they are made in the same factory, just

labeled differently but at a much lower price. Dave

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Dear Terry,

You did not elaborate whether  your back problems  are from herniated discs,

spinal stenosis or  pulled muscles-- if any of the discs are bulging or

herniated or you have spinal sternosis, then I would recommend an epidural--

I have had the procedure three times and there were incredible at least for me--

because they use a powerful steroid-- and those steroids not only take away the

inflammation and pain but they make you FEEL very good---

Anyway thought I would ask

 Annie

From: Dave Cruikshank <d.cruikshank@...>

Subject: Re: Re: Where is everyone? Hows is everyone

feeling?

neck pain

Date: Friday, December 5, 2008, 12:44 AM

At 12:15 PM 12/4/2008, you wrote:

>I feel like a poor kibitzer to this group. I don't have so far the

>seriousness of problem described here, but I do have to deal with an

>ongoing nagging back problem. It flares up when I have to do too

>much bending and reaching in the course of my job. What would you

>all say is best pain relief for pain in middle of back? Are these

>arthritis rubs I am seeing so expensive in the pharmacies worth it

>or are they just like the cheaper pain relief rubs?

>Thanks for the input.

>Terry

Terry for me Ice gell packs wrapped in a towel in contact with the

pain area works wonders. Of course you can't do this while working

or moving, unless you secure it with an Ace bandage. I have secured

them in my back brace before and been active. I also did use

Capcasian creme with some success. Ice works because generally the

pain comes from inflamed muscles, nerves, joints, disks, etc. When I

do use rubs I always use the store brand equivalent. Read the

ingredients, generally they are made in the same factory, just

labeled differently but at a much lower price. Dave

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