Any Exercisers/athletes eating only 2 meals a day?

[Guest guest]

I am just curious. for breakfast I usually have 4 eggs, 50 to 70 gms

butter ( raw organic ) and a glass of milk.

Even if i exercise around 12 through till 1:30pm i still dont seem to

be hungry. But i eat through fear of loosing weight ( im already low

bodyfat and weight for my height ) So i usually eat after training as

usual and most times force dinner down ( stomach still feels like

there is food in there ( a little heavy ). lunch is usually a small

sirlion steak with a whole broccoli and a muchroom and same butter as

breakfast. I remember i used to HAVE to eat 4 or 5 times a day.

but now it almost feels i could skip either lunch or dinner. But when

i go to i feel " empty "

[Guest guest]

YB

I don't know how much you are exercising or how active you are but

long spans between feedings compounded by large amounts of activity

is a great way to raise cortisol levels, lower blood sugar, stress

adrenals, strain endocrine system, etc...

DMM

> I am just curious. for breakfast I usually have 4 eggs, 50 to 70

gms

> butter ( raw organic ) and a glass of milk.

>

> Even if i exercise around 12 through till 1:30pm i still dont seem

to

> be hungry. But i eat through fear of loosing weight ( im already

low

> bodyfat and weight for my height ) So i usually eat after training

as

> usual and most times force dinner down ( stomach still feels like

> there is food in there ( a little heavy ). lunch is usually a

small

> sirlion steak with a whole broccoli and a muchroom and same butter

as

> breakfast. I remember i used to HAVE to eat 4 or 5 times a day.

>

> but now it almost feels i could skip either lunch or dinner. But

when

> i go to i feel " empty "

[Guest guest]

At 09:16 AM 8/23/2002 +0000, you wrote:

>I am just curious. for breakfast I usually have 4 eggs, 50 to 70 gms

>butter ( raw organic ) and a glass of milk.

>

>Even if i exercise around 12 through till 1:30pm i still dont seem to

>be hungry. But i eat through fear of loosing weight ( im already low

>bodyfat and weight for my height ) So i usually eat after training as

>usual and most times force dinner down ( stomach still feels like

>there is food in there ( a little heavy ). lunch is usually a small

>sirlion steak with a whole broccoli and a muchroom and same butter as

>breakfast. I remember i used to HAVE to eat 4 or 5 times a day.

>

>but now it almost feels i could skip either lunch or dinner. But when

>i go to i feel " empty "

My general experience is that hunger fluctuates with

carb intake -- esp. the grains (probably the gluten does something

with the villi, and the blood sugar vacillates when you eat carbs).

Also protein takes a LONG time to digest (It can stay in your stomach

all day).

It's true that the paleo people ate few carbs and were healthy -- it's

also true that from what I'm reading, at least, they were VERY skinny

by our standards! The pictures I've seen of the Masai and other tribes

also show very skinny people. It could well be that our standards

of body weight are not " the norm " any more than the SAD is " the

norm " .

The " body building " philosophies usually emphasize 5 meals

a day, and they do eat carbs (brown rice and sweet potatoes are big),

and they claim that is needed to build muscle mass (they aren't

interested in having more body fat). But again, I have not seen

pictures of hunter-gatherers with anywhere near that amount

of muscle. Even if you look at, say, pictures of the guys who were

laying the railroad, they look scrawny compared to an athletic

person today.

Heidi

[Guest guest]

Hrm maybe i will rethink my carb intake and make it higher. ( like

perhaps having a sour grain for breakfast with eggs still )

Its all very confusing though as to what is the best setup for

optimum health. Im pretty sure I had hyperglucemia( spelt wrong )

when i was eating pasta/grains ect end of last year when i " thought "

i was eating healthy.

perhaps if i can sour the grains this will not happen.

> >I am just curious. for breakfast I usually have 4 eggs, 50 to 70

gms

> >butter ( raw organic ) and a glass of milk.

> >

> >Even if i exercise around 12 through till 1:30pm i still dont seem

to

> >be hungry. But i eat through fear of loosing weight ( im already

low

> >bodyfat and weight for my height ) So i usually eat after training

as

> >usual and most times force dinner down ( stomach still feels like

> >there is food in there ( a little heavy ). lunch is usually a

small

> >sirlion steak with a whole broccoli and a muchroom and same butter

as

> >breakfast. I remember i used to HAVE to eat 4 or 5 times a day.

> >

> >but now it almost feels i could skip either lunch or dinner. But

when

> >i go to i feel " empty "

>

> My general experience is that hunger fluctuates with

> carb intake -- esp. the grains (probably the gluten does something

> with the villi, and the blood sugar vacillates when you eat carbs).

> Also protein takes a LONG time to digest (It can stay in your

stomach

> all day).

>

> It's true that the paleo people ate few carbs and were healthy --

it's

> also true that from what I'm reading, at least, they were VERY

skinny

> by our standards! The pictures I've seen of the Masai and other

tribes

> also show very skinny people. It could well be that our standards

> of body weight are not " the norm " any more than the SAD is " the

> norm " .

>

> The " body building " philosophies usually emphasize 5 meals

> a day, and they do eat carbs (brown rice and sweet potatoes are

big),

> and they claim that is needed to build muscle mass (they aren't

> interested in having more body fat). But again, I have not seen

> pictures of hunter-gatherers with anywhere near that amount

> of muscle. Even if you look at, say, pictures of the guys who were

> laying the railroad, they look scrawny compared to an athletic

> person today.

>

>

> Heidi

>

>

[Guest guest]

At 08:52 AM 8/24/2002 +0000, you wrote:

>Hrm maybe i will rethink my carb intake and make it higher. ( like

>perhaps having a sour grain for breakfast with eggs still )

>

>Its all very confusing though as to what is the best setup for

>optimum health. Im pretty sure I had hyperglucemia( spelt wrong )

>when i was eating pasta/grains ect end of last year when i " thought "

>i was eating healthy.

>

>perhaps if i can sour the grains this will not happen.

Grains are just plain WEIRD (IMO), souring might help. Pasta really fouled

me up: I was eating a lot of it when I started having problems (same reason:

it was " healthy " so I cooked it a lot). But not all carbs are grains: and a lot

of people do better on rice or potatoes.

A lot of the athletic type people seem to avoid grains, with sweet potatoes

being

the carb of choice (I don't know why they do this, but sweet potatoes ARE very

nutritious and easy to digest. They can be fermented too). And if the

goal is to GAIN weight, it's been suggested in this group that

potatoes are really good at that. (Although sweet potatoes are not,

technically,

a potato at all).

I get hypoglycemic easily, and eating most of my carbs for breakfast or

lunch, with lots of fat and protein, seems to have solved this. Also never

eat the carbs alone. A bowl of popcorn will do me in, about 2 hours later!

I eat a limited amount of carbs with each meal, and eat as much protein and

fat as my appetite wants. Seems to work, and it's simple.

-- Heidi