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Also, copper (mantraware.com has a patch you put inside your watch) and

boron

should be considered.

Mineral deficiencies are at the bottom of so many " diseases. "

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> Also, copper (mantraware.com has a patch you put inside your watch)

and

> boron

> Mineral deficiencies are at the bottom of so many " diseases. "

Yes, I agree, but how does a person determine which minerals are

deficient and what quantities to take if they are deficient? These

are the questions which puzzle me.

Sally recommends Azomite for minerals supplementaion, because most

people (including those of us who follow NT to the letter) have

difficulty getting enough minerals from their water and foods to keep

them healthy. If a person already has osteoarthritis, what then?

Should larger amounts of minerals be taken for a short period of time

or for a very long time? How will this be monitored? I know it is

important not to get your minerals out of balance. How will this be

achieved?

If a person is just beginnig to eat the NT way, will there be enough

minerals in the fats from grass fed animals to help a person

eventually overcome arthritis or at least enough to end pain and

perhaps avoid joint replacement? Tough questions I know, but I

believe there are answers out there somewhere. I'm sure we need more

focus on the nutritional needs aspects of arthritis.

I am looking for a plan of action to add to the NT diet, sort of a

compensation plan to end the reasons the arthritis got started in the

first place. After all if this degenerative disease rarely struck

native peoples there is hope for us too.

If you can recommemd any web sites, nutritional plans or books

concerning this problem I would be delighted.

Thanks,

Sheila

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Sheila wrote:

>>I am looking for a plan of action to add to the NT diet, sort of a

compensation plan to end the reasons the arthritis got started in the

first place. After all if this degenerative disease rarely struck

native peoples there is hope for us too.

>>If you can recommemd any web sites, nutritional plans or books

concerning this problem I would be delighted.

Hi Sheila,

I know of at least one author and healer who thinks grains are a big problem

in arthritis. He doesn't address soaking or fermenting and other NT

principles. However Denie is an amazing healer, he's the reason I started

eating meat again before I learned about metabolic typing and Nourishing

Traditions. I've included an excerpt from his book for your interest.

Interestingly he used to be a dairy farmer in New Zealand and now is an

energy healer (As a side note, I used to have totally irregular periods and

cramping, after one healing session with Denie (3-4 years ago now)my periods

became completely regular every 28 days and no more cramps--still are.)

From Electrical Nutrition by Denie & Hiestand

" So what do crushed grains, as in flour, do for us? One of the things

ingesting wheat does is to set up a high probability of joint degeneration.

Once again, this has been known to agricultural science for in excess of

fifty years. In the dairy industry, an excess of crushed grain in the feed

stock would give cows hotfoot, i.e. extremely tender and swollen leg joints.

In horses, too much grain in their diet can lead to a symptom called

foundering.

In human beings, wheat or grain toxicity takes a little longer to manifest

because our bodies are so amazingly evolved that they convert any excess

carbohydrate into cellulite (fat) and put it away for the next famine. And

we all know where our bodies put it!

After a number of years of attempting to deal with this excess grain intake,

the electrical circuitry starts to fail and we feel this in the joints. If

you want to guarantee joint degeneration problems from middle age on, eat a

lot of grain-based foods.

In my clinical experience, I have seen arthritic symptoms, tender, swollen

and painful joints, all successfully alleviated when clients have taken all

grain, and sugar from their diet. This is followed by increasing their

protein intake and adding an electrically formulated herbal bowel cleanse

and enzymes into their nutritional program (more about this later).

In my opinion, the over-consumption of grain in North America is largely

responsible for the chronic obesity, lethargy and joint degeneration that is

so prevalent. When we combine this high-grain intake with sugar, we produce

in our body a substance that is electrically devastating and that

dramatically slows down cell function.

Do not forget when flour is mixed with water it makes glue (when we were

kids we made the most awesome kites out of brown paper and we glued them all

together with flour and water glue). Flour and sugar will clog up and

destroy the human body quicker than any other food combination, including

the meat and potato scenario.

It is frightening that a large percentage of juveniles in North America are

fed such a diet. Their daily intake normally consists of pop, donuts,

muffins, burgers, noodles, pasta, hot-dog buns and various other grain and

sugar based foods.

This is the perfect recipe for obesity, endocrine system malfunction,

emotional instability and often leads to reproductive system problems with

the young women - painful and difficult periods being one of the first

symptoms. Skin eruptions, acne, chronic irritability, concentration deficits

and general learning difficulties are all early manifestations of serious

grain and sugar toxicity.

In our older population, as well as the obvious obesity symptom, lethargy,

libido problems, conception problems, menopausal difficulties later in life,

prostrate symptoms in men and of course the big one, joint degeneration and

arthritis are all long term symptoms of grain toxicity and excess sugar. "

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At 09:48 PM 8/13/02 +0000, you wrote:

>

>> Also, copper (mantraware.com has a patch you put inside your watch)

>and

>> boron

>

>> Mineral deficiencies are at the bottom of so many " diseases. "

>

>Yes, I agree, but how does a person determine which minerals are

>deficient and what quantities to take if they are deficient? These

>are the questions which puzzle me.

>

>Sally recommends Azomite for minerals supplementaion, because most

>people (including those of us who follow NT to the letter) have

>difficulty getting enough minerals from their water and foods to keep

>them healthy. If a person already has osteoarthritis, what then? 

>Should larger amounts of minerals be taken for a short period of time

>or for a very long time? How will this be monitored? I know it is

>important not to get your minerals out of balance. How will this be

>achieved?

>

>If a person is just beginnig to eat the NT way, will there be enough

>minerals in the fats from grass fed animals to help a person

>eventually overcome arthritis or at least enough to end pain and

>perhaps avoid joint replacement? Tough questions I know, but I

>believe there are answers out there somewhere. I'm sure we need more

>focus on the nutritional needs aspects of arthritis.

>

> I am looking for a plan of action to add to the NT diet, sort of a

>compensation plan to end the reasons the arthritis got started in the

>first place. After all if this degenerative disease rarely struck

>native peoples there is hope for us too.

>

>If you can recommemd any web sites, nutritional plans or books

>concerning this problem I would be delighted.

> Thanks, 

>   Sheila

After learning from my Mom's vascular surgeon that she has a calcified plaque

layer wherever she has varicose veins in her legs you bet I said I practice

prevention when he said " don't get sick. " She didn't know that all the handy

commercial vegetable substitutes for homemade lard and butter would lead

her to

surgery after surgery or that the overtime hours at the factory standing on

cement floors would put her retirement in a wheelchair. The factory had a

sodium tablet dispensing machine to help you sweat. What about potassium?

Minerals? Am thinking of getting hair analysis done to verify any minerals

I've

researched to be lacking due to symptoms in the past. Just to be sure I'm

reading my body right. Magnesium I doubt anyone should not be

supplementing. It

prevents the calcification of so many diseases and regulates the electrical

system.

Wanita

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