Guest guest Posted August 24, 2002 Report Share Posted August 24, 2002 Yogabud, I frequently will provide eating plans, workouts, etc... for athletes (and regular folk interested in healthy fitness too) however I usually have a couple dozen pages of notes and a few hours worth of time to design something appropriate for that person. So I will give you something here that will be extremely generic. First and foremost you must realize that you are NOT a world class athlete trading your flesh for cash. Unfortunately this is the model that our health/fitness industry is built on and it is 100% wrong. If your interest is health and well being your activities should be designed to create enough stress as to create positive physiologic adaptations, not excessive stress that will create breakdown. EVERY single professional and world class athlete will spend significant periods of time broken down and unable to compete this is not a model to follow. So ask yourself, is my training regimen set up such that I have to work excessively hard and motivate myself to get through it most of the time. If so its likely to be too much. Its pure positive reinforcement. If you are really getting benefit from your exercise you will know it, see it, feel it, like it, want to do more of it. It should not be punishing. As far as eating goes 4-7 meals depending on your desire and preference. Some people prefer to eat like a bird all day long, some people prefer somewhat larger meals, it is your preference as I don't have any info that would indicate to me which would be best for you. Experiment. As far as food goes, I'm not big on gram, calorie, etc... counting but since I'm trying to give you some guidelines here I'll give you some ROUGH numbers, emphasis on rough. Assuming you are over 5'5 " and 150 pounds your protein grams should come in no lower than 80g per day as a minimum and that's likely a bit low. You likely do not need to restrict carbs however as I mentioned earlier if you are having blood sugar issues sugar and grain would be out. And as far as fats go the traditional healthy fats that are forever discussed here are staples, raw cream and butter, raw milk, coconut oil, etc... As far as your training goes, if you are training 1.5 hours/day I'd at least break that into 2 workouts one early and one later. Whichever workout requires more technical precision should be first. From a pure health and fitnes perspective 1.5 very intense hours everyday is far in excess of what is necessary and would make me suspicious of the net gains you are making or if they are really net losses. On the other hand if you are just talking about general moderate activity (stretching, light jogging, walking, hiking in mild temps, etc...) over that time that's not a problem. You'll have to make that determination. A good 100% acerola product would be helpful, taken pre workout, along with Cataplex E from Standard Process. I hope this is of some help. If you have more questions or need more detail let me know. DMM > Hi Dr . > If it is possible could you please show me what your would recomend > as a typical day's eating you would recomend an athlete. > I train usually 1 hour to 1 hour and a half most days. > In that time there is a mixture of some weight work, martial arts, > stretching. > > I really need to be put on teh right direction.. > Many thanks in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2002 Report Share Posted August 24, 2002 I just re read my post and just wanted to clarify one point. Some of your training certainly should elicit the sense of working hard while you are doing it. ie. weight training should be of short workouts that are moderate to heavy in intensity. Running intervals should be the same. Neither of these activities and activities like them should be done daily, however they can be very valuable. DMM > > Hi Dr . > > If it is possible could you please show me what your would recomend > > as a typical day's eating you would recomend an athlete. > > I train usually 1 hour to 1 hour and a half most days. > > In that time there is a mixture of some weight work, martial arts, > > stretching. > > > > I really need to be put on teh right direction.. > > Many thanks in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2002 Report Share Posted August 25, 2002 Hi Dr Michal, Is it possible for me to email you my current workout plan I typed up for you to give me your thougths on this ? ALsi with teh amount of meals a day with teh current foods ive listed that I eat im simply not getting hungry. ( previous i would eat all the time ) when i was eating grains and pasta ect. was always hungry. > > Yogabud, > > > > I frequently will provide eating plans, workouts, etc... for > athletes > > (and regular folk interested in healthy fitness too) however I > > usually have a couple dozen pages of notes and a few hours worth of > > time to design something appropriate for that person. So I will > give > > you something here that will be extremely generic. > > > > First and foremost you must realize that you are NOT a world class > > athlete trading your flesh for cash. Unfortunately this is the > model > > that our health/fitness industry is built on and it is 100% wrong. > > If your interest is health and well being your activities should be > > designed to create enough stress as to create positive physiologic > > adaptations, not excessive stress that will create breakdown. > EVERY > > single professional and world class athlete will spend significant > > periods of time broken down and unable to compete this is not a > model > > to follow. So ask yourself, is my training regimen set up such > that > > I have to work excessively hard and motivate myself to get through > it > > most of the time. If so its likely to be too much. Its pure > > positive reinforcement. If you are really getting benefit from > your > > exercise you will know it, see it, feel it, like it, want to do > more > > of it. It should not be punishing. > > > > As far as eating goes 4-7 meals depending on your desire and > > preference. Some people prefer to eat like a bird all day long, > some > > people prefer somewhat larger meals, it is your preference as I > > don't have any info that would indicate to me which would be best > for > > you. Experiment. > > > > As far as food goes, I'm not big on gram, calorie, etc... counting > > but since I'm trying to give you some guidelines here I'll give you > > some ROUGH numbers, emphasis on rough. Assuming you are over 5'5 " > > and 150 pounds your protein grams should come in no lower than 80g > > per day as a minimum and that's likely a bit low. You likely do > not > > need to restrict carbs however as I mentioned earlier if you are > > having blood sugar issues sugar and grain would be out. And as far > > as fats go the traditional healthy fats that are forever discussed > > here are staples, raw cream and butter, raw milk, coconut oil, > etc... > > > > As far as your training goes, if you are training 1.5 hours/day I'd > > at least break that into 2 workouts one early and one later. > > Whichever workout requires more technical precision should be > first. > > From a pure health and fitnes perspective 1.5 very intense hours > > everyday is far in excess of what is necessary and would make me > > suspicious of the net gains you are making or if they are really > net > > losses. On the other hand if you are just talking about general > > moderate activity (stretching, light jogging, walking, hiking in > mild > > temps, etc...) over that time that's not a problem. You'll have to > > make that determination. > > > > A good 100% acerola product would be helpful, taken pre workout, > > along with Cataplex E from Standard Process. > > > > I hope this is of some help. If you have more questions or need > more > > detail let me know. > > > > DMM > > > > --- In @y..., " yogabud " <anthony_byron@m...> wrote: > > > Hi Dr . > > > If it is possible could you please show me what your would > recomend > > > as a typical day's eating you would recomend an athlete. > > > I train usually 1 hour to 1 hour and a half most days. > > > In that time there is a mixture of some weight work, martial > arts, > > > stretching. > > > > > > I really need to be put on teh right direction.. > > > Many thanks in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2002 Report Share Posted August 25, 2002 Hi Dr Michal, Is it possible for me to email you my current workout plan I typed up for you to give me your thougths on this ? ----------------->yogabud, dr. michael is a health professional who makes a living doing what you're asking him to do (apparently) for free. if a stranger on an email list asked me to spend what little free time i have to come up with a design for their website for *free* i'd have to decline. i know it's not my business - it's between you and dr. mike, but i think health professionals should feel like they can participate on a board like this without being asked for free personalized consultations. (again, sorry to jump in - maybe you were planning on offering to pay him, and i just assumed wrongly. or maybe he doesn't mind being asked such things - again, i may have assumed wrongly). Suze Fisher Web Design & Development http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg/ mailto:s.fisher22@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2002 Report Share Posted August 26, 2002 Yes i was on teh understanding it would cost me $$ was expecting him to say it in his reply and hopefulyl how much. although i forgot to list that in my post of his fee. > Hi Dr Michal, > > Is it possible for me to email you my current workout plan I typed up > for you to give me your thougths on this ? > > > ----------------->yogabud, dr. michael is a health professional who makes a > living doing what you're asking him to do (apparently) for free. if a > stranger on an email list asked me to spend what little free time i have to > come up with a design for their website for *free* i'd have to decline. i > know it's not my business - it's between you and dr. mike, but i think > health professionals should feel like they can participate on a board like > this without being asked for free personalized consultations. (again, sorry > to jump in - maybe you were planning on offering to pay him, and i just > assumed wrongly. or maybe he doesn't mind being asked such things - again, i > may have assumed wrongly). > > > > > > > Suze Fisher > Web Design & Development > http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg/ > mailto:s.fisher22@v... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2002 Report Share Posted August 26, 2002 Yes i was on teh understanding it would cost me $$ was expecting him to say it in his reply and hopefulyl how much. although i forgot to list that in my post of his fee. --------->apologies then, i misunderstood (and probably should just mind my own business!) and good luck-let us know how your new regimen goes Suze Fisher Web Design & Development http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg/ mailto:s.fisher22@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2002 Report Share Posted August 26, 2002 Wow some controversy while I was gone;-) Suze thanks for your sentiment as there are times where it does apply, I appreciate your speaking up. At the same time I do come here and other places to post in an effort just to be helpful and share my experience. I know what a nightmare it can be to not have a source of reliable info and worse yet, docs who can't aid in what you're trying to do. There are occassionally folks like yogabud who will utilize my professional expertise in a more official capacity and I welcome that too. These last few months with my wife giving birth to our first child has made me less available than normal but I will be more available as we go into fall. Thanks for your interest and support. As for your request yogabud, why don't you go ahead and email me some more specifics as to what you'd like and I'll take a look at it. We'll see what kind of work it requires, if it just needs a tweak here or there I don't mind just fixing it for you. If you'd really like me to take some time and work up something more " functional " I will let you know what that kind of consult would involve. All My Best, DMM > > Hi Dr Michal, > > > > Is it possible for me to email you my current workout plan I typed > up > > for you to give me your thougths on this ? > > > > > > ----------------->yogabud, dr. michael is a health professional who > makes a > > living doing what you're asking him to do (apparently) for free. if > a > > stranger on an email list asked me to spend what little free time i > have to > > come up with a design for their website for *free* i'd have to > decline. i > > know it's not my business - it's between you and dr. mike, but i > think > > health professionals should feel like they can participate on a > board like > > this without being asked for free personalized consultations. > (again, sorry > > to jump in - maybe you were planning on offering to pay him, and i > just > > assumed wrongly. or maybe he doesn't mind being asked such things - > again, i > > may have assumed wrongly). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Suze Fisher > > Web Design & Development > > http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg/ > > mailto:s.fisher22@v... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2002 Report Share Posted August 27, 2002 Thanks veur much Dr . I will send a email this afternoon > > Yes i was on teh understanding it would cost me $$ > > > > was expecting him to say it in his reply and hopefulyl how much. > > > > although i forgot to list that in my post of his fee. > > > > > > > > --- In @y..., " Suze Fisher " <s.fisher22@v...> wrote: > > > Hi Dr Michal, > > > > > > Is it possible for me to email you my current workout plan I > typed > > up > > > for you to give me your thougths on this ? > > > > > > > > > ----------------->yogabud, dr. michael is a health professional > who > > makes a > > > living doing what you're asking him to do (apparently) for free. > if > > a > > > stranger on an email list asked me to spend what little free time > i > > have to > > > come up with a design for their website for *free* i'd have to > > decline. i > > > know it's not my business - it's between you and dr. mike, but i > > think > > > health professionals should feel like they can participate on a > > board like > > > this without being asked for free personalized consultations. > > (again, sorry > > > to jump in - maybe you were planning on offering to pay him, and > i > > just > > > assumed wrongly. or maybe he doesn't mind being asked such > things - > > again, i > > > may have assumed wrongly). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Suze Fisher > > > Web Design & Development > > > http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg/ > > > mailto:s.fisher22@v... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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