Re: FISTING !!!!!

[Guest guest]

WOW! you typed all that on a little web TV keyboard! You must have tired

little fingers. You have totally confused me are you a man or a woman?

Please don't hold back, let it all out, let us know how you really feel.

Take care,

Les

[Guest guest]

WOW! you typed all that on a little web TV keyboard! You must have tired

little fingers. You have totally confused me are you a man or a woman?

Please don't hold back, let it all out, let us know how you really feel.

Take care,

Les

[Guest guest]

Hi Kalidurga'

I am a heteroseexual female that did receive my Hep

B and C from 28 pints of blood given to me during

grafting surgery at a Burn unit. I understand where

you are coming from well, kind of. I was treated badly

by a pharmacist at Wal-Mart. As soon as he saw the

scripts including the one for the Rebetron on my

profile. I am in a town that I call the armpit of FL

People seem to assume or as a teacher taught me once

assume is just them making an ASS of U and Me. My Hep

B was fought off by my body. Why I am writing you is

to tell you Don't let them hurt you. You are hurting

enough already. And also, I was hoping you could give

me a bit of insight for a friend of my sisters that

she formerly worked with. He and his partner both

worked for the same conveince store owner. His

partner was terminated first and then he was. What I

am getting at is the owner when he fired his partner

or mate I am not sure what to call him sorry if I am

wrong. Told another employee that he had got rir of

the one queer and next was the other. Which he got

terminated also. Isn't that discrimmation? Do you

know whom he should go to? I gave him the phone # of

the EEOC that was located in the County Building in

Clearwater, Fl for the County that terminated me. I

have not heard back from him if it did any good. He

said he had called somewhere in Miami (sorry my memory

is bad) and was told that being gay was not covered in

dicrimination policies or something along that line.

If you know what he can do please e mail me Thank

you......Connie

--- kalidurga@... wrote:

> I beg to differ once again with information I have

> been told to read.

> For one thing I know of no gay men that gets

> 'fisted'. How dare an

> article release information saying most gay men get

> 'fisted'. I have

> NEVER thought of it as an erotic, exciting, sexual

> practice. Also MOST

> woman I am friendly enough with who disclose sexual

> behaviors with me,

> have anal sex with men, and some don't where

> protection because they

> 'trust him' or they are married. Where is the

> information in the study

> about straight woman having anal penetration? Am I

> to assume only gay

> men 'take it' up the ass. I guess that is society

> for you. I'll have you

> know,( too much info or not), I am thirty years old

> and only have had

> anal sex four times in my life. I am am gay man, who

> in my teens slept

> with ALOT of people, but rarely had anal sex.

> Believe me that is not the

> only thing two men can do. Also the article says

> most gay men are on

> antibiotics for having alot of partners and getting

> STDs. Where did this

> information come from. I have never met a man who

> told me that. Yes as a

> teen, I dated alot. The only place I could find a

> date was at a bar on

> the weekends. Does that mean I am a slut? I have

> NEVER had a STD !!!

> Also I have only been friends with two HIV positive

> people in my life. I

> live in a area in Boston, populated with alot of gay

> men and not all are

> HIV positive and sluts. I cannot be the only gay man

> who doesn't have

> anal sex with a different person every night, get a

> STD and take alot of

> antibiotics ! There once was an outbreak of crabs

> were I worked. I had

> not had sex in eight months and I too got infected.

> The bathroom was the

> place we all got it from. My human resources manager

> assumed I got it

> from sex, and treated me differently after that. I

> called the local city

> disease department and had information sent to me on

> scabies and crabs.

> There are instances where it is not passed sexually.

> Like toilet seats,

> bedding, couches.

> It is always assumed that gay men have anal sex and

> have multiple

> partners. I would never assume that all woman have

> anal sex or

> heterosexual men either. Do you know of how many

> woman I know that tell

> me that the man they are with wants to try anal sex?

> Either to penetrate

> her or have her penetrate him some how. Now what is

> that telling me? Is

> it ALL men who enjoy anal sex? Or is it just gay men

> who, being assumed

> to have anal sex, are not afraid to talk about it. I

> cannot see an

> heterosexual male going to his doctor for pain in

> his backside after

> being penetrated by his girl friend. Or agree to be

> in a study about

> anal sex. This is why there is still a separation

> between gay and

> heterosexual studies.

> I find it amazing how heterosexuals are so quick to

> read about gay sex.

> I on the other hand could not be bothered. I have

> known for years of

> many fathers, step fathers, uncles and mothers who

> molest their children

> or someone elses. Now lets look at the facts. If I

> am a heterosexual

> male, but I molest children, male or female, does

> that still make me

> heterosexual? How is that heterosexual sex? Should I

> only be studied in

> heterosexual studies? I only placed a finger in

> them, or had them

> perform oral sex on me. Am I a heterosexual? Most

> molesters are

> considered heterosexual men. Also, some more of

> these studies we have

> all heard about; if someone is molested, they may

> have many sexual

> partners or engage in risky behavior. Now should we

> just study the boys

> who were molested? Should we study only the girls?

> If BOTH are at risk

> of having multiple partners and engaging in risky

> behavior, wouldn't the

> odds of the getting STDs and other disease be about

> the same for both? I

> am sure girls who engage in risky behavior do not

> use protection.

> I think it is so amazing when watching heterosexual

> porn, most of the

> time, the men anally penetrate the woman. Is it

> their favorite thing?

> Are they heterosexual? What can be attractive about

> a woman's anus, or a

> man's for that matter. Atleast gay men have a reason

> to perform anal

> sex, there are not alot of holes to penetrate. What

> are heterosexual

> males excuse? The hole is tighter? Does that make

> him gay or

> heterosexual? Or just selfish? What about all the

> men in the jails who

> have gay sex, but once out of jail, they are

> heterosexual. How should we

> study them? Partially gay or gay sometimes?

> Lets talk about bisexuals. Should we measure how

> many men to woman they

> have been penetrated by or have penetrated? Where do

> they stand. Oh yes

> society assumes if you are bisexual you get

> penetrated by men. Well as a

> teen- ager I slept with woman and men. Where

> do I stand? I have penetrated one woman without a

> condom, been

> penetrated by a man once without a condom, performed

> oral sex on both

> and both have performed oral sex on me. Am I

> bisexual. Does being

> penetrated once unprotected make me a high risk? How

> about the girl I

> penetrated, is she at high risk? How about all the

> people who have

> performed oral sex on me since I tested positive for

> Hep C, are they at

> risk?

> FACTS ABOUT ME THAT SHOULD BE STUDIED;

> I am an ex bisexual, ex junkie, shared 'works', have

> MANY tattoos, have

> piercings, worked in a Oncology/Infectious Disease

> unit at a hospital

> for six and a half years, taking care of people who

> were TB positive,

> HIV positive and Hep positive, people who had

> scabies and people with

> cancer, I was also stuck by a used needle at this

> hospital, I worked in

> restaurants, traveled to other countries, slept with

> people from other

> countries, I have penetrated and been penetrated, I

> had braces and ALOT

> of dental work in the 1970s and 1980s, before HIV

> and other diseases

> were so carefully watched, I have shared

> toothbrushes and other

> toiletries, I had stitchers twice when I was a child

> and I am sure there

> are other instances which I would consider risky

> now. There are so many

> ways I could have been infected by Hep c. Why would

> someone assume it is

> because I am an ex junkie? The same goes with HIV

> and gay men. Why would

> anyone assume they got it through anal sex. Should I

> assume people who

> say they are heterosexual are, and that they do not

> have or have never

> had just one homosexual experience, or have practice

> unsafe sex with

> anyone. If someone tells me they are not a junkie,

> should I believe

> them.

> Read the fact. A few years ago many hemophiliacs

> were infected by blood

> tainted with HIV. The blood was known to be tainted

> but it was still

> given. Those in need of blood assumed it was safe.

> Now are we to assume

> the ones who are HIV positive got infected by the

> blood given or maybe

> was it a sexual relationship, or an operation before

> 1992, before Hep C

> was tested in blood given. But I am sure if the

> person who got blood was

> gay, and then tested HIV positive. It would be

> assumed they were HIV

> positive before, due to 'fisting' and other risky

> behaviors that gay men

> are assumed to engage in.

> Does that make more sense?

> Studies should be towards a cure. We all know what

> blood to blood or

> blood to body fluid means. Why keep wasting time on

> it. Plus maybe more

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Kalidurga'

I am a heteroseexual female that did receive my Hep

B and C from 28 pints of blood given to me during

grafting surgery at a Burn unit. I understand where

you are coming from well, kind of. I was treated badly

by a pharmacist at Wal-Mart. As soon as he saw the

scripts including the one for the Rebetron on my

profile. I am in a town that I call the armpit of FL

People seem to assume or as a teacher taught me once

assume is just them making an ASS of U and Me. My Hep

B was fought off by my body. Why I am writing you is

to tell you Don't let them hurt you. You are hurting

enough already. And also, I was hoping you could give

me a bit of insight for a friend of my sisters that

she formerly worked with. He and his partner both

worked for the same conveince store owner. His

partner was terminated first and then he was. What I

am getting at is the owner when he fired his partner

or mate I am not sure what to call him sorry if I am

wrong. Told another employee that he had got rir of

the one queer and next was the other. Which he got

terminated also. Isn't that discrimmation? Do you

know whom he should go to? I gave him the phone # of

the EEOC that was located in the County Building in

Clearwater, Fl for the County that terminated me. I

have not heard back from him if it did any good. He

said he had called somewhere in Miami (sorry my memory

is bad) and was told that being gay was not covered in

dicrimination policies or something along that line.

If you know what he can do please e mail me Thank

you......Connie

--- kalidurga@... wrote:

> I beg to differ once again with information I have

> been told to read.

> For one thing I know of no gay men that gets

> 'fisted'. How dare an

> article release information saying most gay men get

> 'fisted'. I have

> NEVER thought of it as an erotic, exciting, sexual

> practice. Also MOST

> woman I am friendly enough with who disclose sexual

> behaviors with me,

> have anal sex with men, and some don't where

> protection because they

> 'trust him' or they are married. Where is the

> information in the study

> about straight woman having anal penetration? Am I

> to assume only gay

> men 'take it' up the ass. I guess that is society

> for you. I'll have you

> know,( too much info or not), I am thirty years old

> and only have had

> anal sex four times in my life. I am am gay man, who

> in my teens slept

> with ALOT of people, but rarely had anal sex.

> Believe me that is not the

> only thing two men can do. Also the article says

> most gay men are on

> antibiotics for having alot of partners and getting

> STDs. Where did this

> information come from. I have never met a man who

> told me that. Yes as a

> teen, I dated alot. The only place I could find a

> date was at a bar on

> the weekends. Does that mean I am a slut? I have

> NEVER had a STD !!!

> Also I have only been friends with two HIV positive

> people in my life. I

> live in a area in Boston, populated with alot of gay

> men and not all are

> HIV positive and sluts. I cannot be the only gay man

> who doesn't have

> anal sex with a different person every night, get a

> STD and take alot of

> antibiotics ! There once was an outbreak of crabs

> were I worked. I had

> not had sex in eight months and I too got infected.

> The bathroom was the

> place we all got it from. My human resources manager

> assumed I got it

> from sex, and treated me differently after that. I

> called the local city

> disease department and had information sent to me on

> scabies and crabs.

> There are instances where it is not passed sexually.

> Like toilet seats,

> bedding, couches.

> It is always assumed that gay men have anal sex and

> have multiple

> partners. I would never assume that all woman have

> anal sex or

> heterosexual men either. Do you know of how many

> woman I know that tell

> me that the man they are with wants to try anal sex?

> Either to penetrate

> her or have her penetrate him some how. Now what is

> that telling me? Is

> it ALL men who enjoy anal sex? Or is it just gay men

> who, being assumed

> to have anal sex, are not afraid to talk about it. I

> cannot see an

> heterosexual male going to his doctor for pain in

> his backside after

> being penetrated by his girl friend. Or agree to be

> in a study about

> anal sex. This is why there is still a separation

> between gay and

> heterosexual studies.

> I find it amazing how heterosexuals are so quick to

> read about gay sex.

> I on the other hand could not be bothered. I have

> known for years of

> many fathers, step fathers, uncles and mothers who

> molest their children

> or someone elses. Now lets look at the facts. If I

> am a heterosexual

> male, but I molest children, male or female, does

> that still make me

> heterosexual? How is that heterosexual sex? Should I

> only be studied in

> heterosexual studies? I only placed a finger in

> them, or had them

> perform oral sex on me. Am I a heterosexual? Most

> molesters are

> considered heterosexual men. Also, some more of

> these studies we have

> all heard about; if someone is molested, they may

> have many sexual

> partners or engage in risky behavior. Now should we

> just study the boys

> who were molested? Should we study only the girls?

> If BOTH are at risk

> of having multiple partners and engaging in risky

> behavior, wouldn't the

> odds of the getting STDs and other disease be about

> the same for both? I

> am sure girls who engage in risky behavior do not

> use protection.

> I think it is so amazing when watching heterosexual

> porn, most of the

> time, the men anally penetrate the woman. Is it

> their favorite thing?

> Are they heterosexual? What can be attractive about

> a woman's anus, or a

> man's for that matter. Atleast gay men have a reason

> to perform anal

> sex, there are not alot of holes to penetrate. What

> are heterosexual

> males excuse? The hole is tighter? Does that make

> him gay or

> heterosexual? Or just selfish? What about all the

> men in the jails who

> have gay sex, but once out of jail, they are

> heterosexual. How should we

> study them? Partially gay or gay sometimes?

> Lets talk about bisexuals. Should we measure how

> many men to woman they

> have been penetrated by or have penetrated? Where do

> they stand. Oh yes

> society assumes if you are bisexual you get

> penetrated by men. Well as a

> teen- ager I slept with woman and men. Where

> do I stand? I have penetrated one woman without a

> condom, been

> penetrated by a man once without a condom, performed

> oral sex on both

> and both have performed oral sex on me. Am I

> bisexual. Does being

> penetrated once unprotected make me a high risk? How

> about the girl I

> penetrated, is she at high risk? How about all the

> people who have

> performed oral sex on me since I tested positive for

> Hep C, are they at

> risk?

> FACTS ABOUT ME THAT SHOULD BE STUDIED;

> I am an ex bisexual, ex junkie, shared 'works', have

> MANY tattoos, have

> piercings, worked in a Oncology/Infectious Disease

> unit at a hospital

> for six and a half years, taking care of people who

> were TB positive,

> HIV positive and Hep positive, people who had

> scabies and people with

> cancer, I was also stuck by a used needle at this

> hospital, I worked in

> restaurants, traveled to other countries, slept with

> people from other

> countries, I have penetrated and been penetrated, I

> had braces and ALOT

> of dental work in the 1970s and 1980s, before HIV

> and other diseases

> were so carefully watched, I have shared

> toothbrushes and other

> toiletries, I had stitchers twice when I was a child

> and I am sure there

> are other instances which I would consider risky

> now. There are so many

> ways I could have been infected by Hep c. Why would

> someone assume it is

> because I am an ex junkie? The same goes with HIV

> and gay men. Why would

> anyone assume they got it through anal sex. Should I

> assume people who

> say they are heterosexual are, and that they do not

> have or have never

> had just one homosexual experience, or have practice

> unsafe sex with

> anyone. If someone tells me they are not a junkie,

> should I believe

> them.

> Read the fact. A few years ago many hemophiliacs

> were infected by blood

> tainted with HIV. The blood was known to be tainted

> but it was still

> given. Those in need of blood assumed it was safe.

> Now are we to assume

> the ones who are HIV positive got infected by the

> blood given or maybe

> was it a sexual relationship, or an operation before

> 1992, before Hep C

> was tested in blood given. But I am sure if the

> person who got blood was

> gay, and then tested HIV positive. It would be

> assumed they were HIV

> positive before, due to 'fisting' and other risky

> behaviors that gay men

> are assumed to engage in.

> Does that make more sense?

> Studies should be towards a cure. We all know what

> blood to blood or

> blood to body fluid means. Why keep wasting time on

> it. Plus maybe more

>

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